"VERY HIGH RANKING AL QUAEDA LEADER" surrounded by pakistani army right now!!!!

[higgybaby]

what is being reported as a high value target, possible the #2 man next to Osama Bin Ladin, is surrounded by the pakistani army and more news is coming in by the second....

[NamVet4]

Story Link . . .

Pakistan: Al-Qaida No. 2 may be surrounded (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4539021/)

BREAKING NEWS
NBC, MSNBC and news services
Updated: 3:26 p.m. ET March 18, 2004

[akhhorus]

Unfortunetly, Its the Pakistani Army(who has sympathies to Al Queda/Taliban) who have him surrounded(If they do-the BBC was saying on the world service that it was a Chechan Leader who works with Al Queda). I give them about a 50/50 chance of actually getting him. And maybe a 25% chance of catching him alive.

[Spence]

Seymour Hersh has a great article about this in a recent issue of the New Yorker. Apparently, in order to get the Pakistanis to cooperate in the hunt for Bin Laden, the Bush admin agreed to look the other way while Pakistan exported huge amounts of nuclear weapons technology to North Korea, Iran, and Libya.

Who likes that deal?

[RedskinsDave]

Yeah that makes sense. Let us go get a couple of cave dwellers who hate us while you build up weapons that could take us out. I don't buy it.

[Spence]

Or you could read the article. The sourcing is extremely impressive.

[Yudolindo]

Originally posted by Spence
Seymour Hersh has a great article about this in a recent issue of the New Yorker.

:rolleyes:

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by RedskinsDave
Yeah that makes sense. Let us go get a couple of cave dwellers who hate us while you build up weapons that could take us out. I don't buy it.

this is nothing new. The Pakistani "father of the Nuclear Bomb" admitted to giving techonological assistance to a whole host of countries, including North Korea, Libya and Belarus. We're letting them slide on it without much noise because we need their help too much.

and the latest report from Pakistan was that their troops got throughly kicked in the hee-haws by Al Queda

[higgybaby]

okay, if you don't agree with what we are doing in this situation, what would you propose that we do?

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by higgybaby
okay, if you don't agree with what we are doing in this situation, what would you propose that we do?

I agree with what we're doing, I just dont think we should let Pakistan slide on a standard that we held Iraq and the rest of the world to. Turns out theyre one of the worst distributers of WMD and you wouldnt know it from what our Government is saying.

[Spence]

Hey, what's been going on with this? Nothing, right? You know, I hate to be a cynic, but it just occurs to me that there might have been a connection between Pakistan's announcement of its coming big arrest and the fact that Colin Powell was in Pakistan at that very moment. Yeah, the cynic in me wonders if that was just Pakistan's way of convincing the Bush regime and the world that they are actually doing something about the thousands of Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorists operating freely on their soil. Meanwhile, in return for Pakistan pretending to crack down on terrorists, the Bush regime pretends to believe that Pakistan has stopped selling advanced nuclear weapons technology to Iran, Libya, and North Korea.

[Spence]

Originally posted by Yudolindo
:rolleyes: Hey, I can't argue with debating skills like that, Yudo!

[dukeuch]

Originally posted by RedskinsDave
Yeah that makes sense. Let us go get a couple of cave dwellers who hate us while you build up weapons that could take us out. I don't buy it.

Well, it certainly would not be the first time an administration allowed or supported questionable activities such as these in order secure short-term goals. The US Government makes a practice of creating a more uncertain future to procure short-term satisfaction.

[lakewinola]

Originally posted by RedskinsDave
Yeah that makes sense. Let us go get a couple of cave dwellers who hate us while you build up weapons that could take us out. I don't buy it.

Why so hard to believe? Ronald Regan did it.

[Spence]

Look, the basic facts are undisputed.

1. The Pakistani government exported enormous quantities of nuclear technology and hardware to the governments of North Korea, Libya, and Iran. [For those counting at home, that's two of the three members of Mr Bush's Axis of Evil and a third country which must be on the Honorable Mention list.]

2. This nuclear technology and hardware has been used to build up nuclear weapons programs in all three countries mentioned above.

3. The founder of the Pakistani nuclear weapons program has admitted publicly that he arranged for these illegal exports.

4. The president of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, is a key ally of Mr Bush, who has lavished billions upon Pakistan since 2001. Recently, while in Pakistan, Secretary of State Colin Powell announced that Pakistan had been given the honor of becoming a "major non-NATO ally." This is a distinction shared by countries like Japan and Israel. This despite the fact that there is no evidence Pakistan has ceased exporting nuclear weapons technology and hardware to terrorists states.

Okay, those are the facts and they are not in dispute. Now, for a fact that is in dispute. The New Yorker has asserted, in a meticulously-detailed report, that the Bush regime made a policy decision to ignore Pakistan's export of nuclear weapons technology if it cooperated with the U.S. in the hunt for Bin Laden.

So far, Mr Bin Laden and his top associate, Zayman al-Zawahiri, remain at large. So does the Taliban leader Mullah Omar. Meanwhile, the nuclear weapons programs of Axis of Evil nations have been advanced considerably by Pakistan's illegal exports.

That's the story, folks, like it or not.

[akhhorus]

and he wasnt there. Surprise. Even when this story broke the Pentagon was screaming that there was no evidence that he was there

[Skins57]

The thing is hte closer to elections we get the more " we "almost" got Osama" headlines will be everywhere, which will not be true. Bush will use the media to help win the election but hopefully the country is too smart to allow him to steal another election

[higgybaby]

Bush did not put this out, in fact the pentagon was screaming from the onset that there was no evidence.