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[Axegrinder]

Chargers.com says Taylor is scheduled to interview with the team on Mon. the 5th.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I couldn't believe a safety going first overall.

[akhhorus]

Neither can I, I believe its a sucker play. Try to get someone to bite and trade up for Taylor. If they take Taylor, he'll be a great player, but they have so many other needs

[Axegrinder]

Chargers may trade down.

[RichardBradley]

The Chargers will probably trade down because they have a moron running the show... First Michael Vick now Manning if passing on those two dosen't get you fored then I dunno what will

[Ford]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
The Chargers will probably trade down because they have a moron running the show... First Michael Vick now Manning if passing on those two dosen't get you fored then I dunno what will

Didn't the GM who made these decisions (butler?) pass away in the past year or two?

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
The Chargers will probably trade down because they have a moron running the show... First Michael Vick now Manning if passing on those two dosen't get you fored then I dunno what will

agreed, someone would have to offer a high 1st rounder, a second rounder, another pick and a player to trade up. And no-one is probably willing to do that. And if the Chargers trade down and Manning becomes the next Peyton, the SD fans will basically revolt.

[PA Skins Girl]

It was rumored on Thursday that the Giants were looking to trade up to the number 1 to get Manning. Giving up a second rounder next year and maybe a third rounder too. If that happens, that would put SD right in front of us.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Ford
Didn't the GM who made these decisions (butler?) pass away in the past year or two?

Yes he did.

[RedskinsDave]

Yeah Butler died last year. When he made that move, letting Vick go and getting what was thought to be a stud QB and RB in one draft, it wasn't that bad a move. Hindsight is always 20/20. He still got a stud RB for them.

[colkurtz]

Taylor over Manning??!!! Hmmm......

San diego is just covering the bases and trying to generate more chances for a "Ditka-style" trade down offer. They're talking to all the premium players that other teams are drooling over.

If a team thinks that their top player choice [be it Manning, Gallery, Fitz, Taylot, etc] may go earlier than their pick,then they have to perhaps offer a trade up to get it.

As draft day aproaches the smoke, mirrors and head-fakes of these teams will increase as they try to get the most from their picks. Because of the depth and wealth of talent in this draft, trading down still allows one to get high quality and perhaps more quantity.

We will certainly also get offers at #5.

[Gump84]

Originally posted by RichardBradley
The Chargers will probably trade down because they have a moron running the show... First Michael Vick now Manning if passing on those two dosen't get you fored then I dunno what will

Who has panned out better so far, Michael Vick or LT? Vick is great, but LT is too. As of right now, I'd definitely take Brees + LT over Vick. Not a stupid choice by the Chargers if you ask me. And besides, since when is Manning such a sure fire pick??????????

[Yudolindo]

Originally posted by akhhorus
And if the Chargers trade down and Manning becomes the next Peyton, the SD fans will basically revolt.

Which is why the Chargers will take Manning: they have to keep their franchise alive.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Who has panned out better so far, Michael Vick or LT? Vick is great, but LT is too. As of right now, I'd definitely take Brees + LT over Vick. Not a stupid choice by the Chargers if you ask me. And besides, since when is Manning such a sure fire pick??????????

LT is a great back, but Id rather have Vick.

[WinslowRedskin]

Yeah I don't think the Chargers will pass up Manning. They passed up Peyton, and they passed up Vick. They won't pass up Eli.

[Gump84]

Vick has done nothing in his career so far except get injured. While he did have an excellent year in 2002, that doesn't exactly make him one of the all time greats. LT had over 1600 yard AND over 100 catches last year. What exactly did Vick do last year? Additionally, it wasn't just LT instead of Vick, it was LT and Brees. While Brees isn't all that great himself, he's mediocre. I don't think the Chargers would be willing to trade LT + Brees for Vick, I sure wouldn't.

[redwolf1218]

marty was a linebacker. i think he wants to win all his games like 6 to 3 or 3 to nothing.

[Gump84]

Originally posted by akhhorus
And if the Chargers trade down and Manning becomes the next Peyton, the SD fans will basically revolt.

Why would the fans revolt? Everyone acts as if the Chargers had a chance at Peyton. Note: They didn't. They had the 2nd choice and Manning was taken with the 1st.

[colkurtz]

Originally posted by Gump84
Who has panned out better so far, Michael Vick or LT? Vick is great, but LT is too. As of right now, I'd definitely take Brees + LT over Vick. Not a stupid choice by the Chargers if you ask me. And besides, since when is Manning such a sure fire pick??????????

No pick is sure-fire, which is why San Diego may try to move down. However, if they do pass on Manning, and he IS as good as his brother; people will be looking to lynch Shottenheimer.

A premium QB can make a team or at least keep a mediocre team occassionally exciting.

They are talking to Taylor in case they do trade down once or twice and he is still available. Taylor's workout wasn't that great, nor his wonderlic scores. So interviewing him is critical.

I'm sure our FO has talked to all the top 10 or 15 candidates for the same reason.

[Gump84]

It just gets old hearing the same 3 things:

"San Diego was stupid for not taking Vick!"

They got LT and Brees. You can't really argue that one.

"San Diego was stupid for not getting Peyton Manning!"

They didn't have a choice and ended up getting stuck with the bust.

"San Diego HAS to draft Eli Manning!"

He has done nothing in the NFL yet.

I don't think San Diego fans would be any more upset than the fans of any other team that passes on someone who ends up being great. One of my friends is a huge San Diego fan and he doesn't want a QB. That need can be addressed outside of the draft. They have more pressing needs right now anyway.

[colkurtz]

Originally posted by REDWOLF1218
marty was a linebacker. i think he wants to win all his games like 6 to 3 or 3 to nothing.

That's a great quote! All the people who cried and moaned when General Shottenheimer left here - what say they now?

IMHO - the game has left him by. He may be trying to get out of the #1 pick because expectations are SO high............

HAIL!

[redwolf1218]

i'm pretty sure manning is going to be good. i bet marty wanted brunell. i bet parcells did too. i bet they'd love to have ramsey too. the chargers could keep breez manning and flutie, then trade breeze or manning later. once manning gets good and his initial deal runs out, he is going to want 100 gazillion dollars anyway like his brother. we are in the catbird seat at 5.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
It just gets old hearing the same 3 things:

"San Diego was stupid for not taking Vick!"

They got LT and Brees. You can't really argue that one.



LOL. Brees might be cut soon, whether they have a new QB or not. He was a total stiff last year, despite having a great LT. If you ran that draft again, SD would take Vick, no doubt. Vick was a huge mistake for SD, true he has only one true good year, BUT last year he singlehandly beat the NFC champs and is one of the best players in the league.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by colkurtz
That's a great quote! All the people who cried and moaned when General Shottenheimer left here - was say they now?

IMHO - the game has left him by. He may be trying to get out of the #1 pick because expectations are SO high............

HAIL!

Marty probably still wears an old style leather football helmet

[redwolf1218]

marty needs berny kosar and christian akoye

[Gump84]

Originally posted by akhhorus
LOL. Brees might be cut soon, whether they have a new QB or not. He was a total stiff last year, despite having a great LT. If you ran that draft again, SD would take Vick, no doubt. Vick was a huge mistake for SD, true he has only one true good year, BUT last year he singlehandly beat the NFC champs and is one of the best players in the league.


Brees most definitely isn't going to get cut anytime soon, unless they get a suitable replacement, and in that case, Flutie is probably gone. Brees isn't anywhere close to a great QB, but he's average. Vick is not one of the best players in the NFL. He has done nothing yet. For all you know, he could re-injure his leg and have his career effecively ended. LT is a RB and WR in one and is great at it. The San Diego fans LOVE him.

[redwolf1218]

he let his hall of fame probowl middle linebacker go to miami, then he lost david boston. he needs rod gardner and trotter...didnt he tell larry centers to hit the road when he came to the skins? my way or the highway? something like that?

[redwolf1218]

maybe he's waiting for vick's brother marcus to come out of college. he should not have, uh, well, bought that 15 year old girl that beer.

[redwolf1218]

maybe he's waiting for vick's brother marcus to come out of college. marcus should not have bought that 15 year old girl that beer. and stuff. or something.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Brees most definitely isn't going to get cut anytime soon, unless they get a suitable replacement, and in that case, Flutie is probably gone. Brees isn't anywhere close to a great QB, but he's average. Vick is not one of the best players in the NFL. He has done nothing yet. For all you know, he could re-injure his leg and have his career effecively ended. LT is a RB and WR in one and is great at it. The San Diego fans LOVE him.

If LT is such a great player, how come he wasnt able to take a crappy(Brees is way below average, his QB was 67(!!!) last year) QB and not get them to even 5 wins? Lot of other good backs are able to carry their team, but LT cant. QB is much more important than RB in the NFL. If you could pick any QB in the league, anyone would take Vick just below Peyton, Brady and McNair. Vick not only is a QB, he makes you put a couple of defenders to spy him, which opens things up that much more for his team.

[redwolf1218]

good point. when you have a guy "spying" on the QB you are playing 10 against 11.

[Axegrinder]

Originally posted by REDWOLF1218
marty needs berny kosar and christian akoye

Marty couldn't do anything with Joe Montana.

[Gump84]

Brees has a career QB rating of 73.7 and his 2003 rating was 67. It's kind of hard to do anything from the QB position when you don't have ANY offensive line, your #1 receiver is a massive head-case, and your #2 isn't all that great.

LT's 2003 numbers:

313 carries for 1645 yards (5.3 ypc) and 13 TDs. 100 receptions for 725 yards (7.3 ypc) and 4 TDs. 2 fumbles, 0 lost.

Vicks's career QB rating: 76.3
2003 QB rating: 69

BTW, his O-line isn't complete CRAP. QB is more of an important position, but Vick hasn't proven anything, and LT is an essential part of his team. BTW, you have to remember they are dealing with Marty who doesn't make the most logical choices. They could have won more games if LT was utilized last year. Marty made some dumb choices in a few of the games. Vick will probably be great, but as of now, the Chargers made the right choice. Vick hasn't done much more than Brees. Vick doesn't compare to LT + Brees.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by REDWOLF1218
good point. when you have a guy "spying" on the QB you are playing 10 against 11.

in Vick's case its even less

[Axegrinder]

Maybe he can trade for Tony Banks.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Brees has a career QB rating of 73.7 and his 2003 rating was 67. It's kind of hard to do anything from the QB position when you don't have ANY offensive line, your #1 receiver is a massive head-case, and your #2 isn't all that great.

LT's 2003 numbers:

313 carries for 1645 yards (5.3 ypc) and 13 TDs. 100 receptions for 725 yards (7.3 ypc) and 4 TDs. 2 fumbles, 0 lost.

Vicks's career QB rating: 76.3
2003 QB rating: 69

BTW, his O-line isn't complete CRAP. QB is more of an important position, but Vick hasn't proven anything, and LT is an essential part of his team. BTW, you have to remember they are dealing with Marty who doesn't make the most logical choices. They could have won more games if LT was utilized last year. Marty made some dumb choices in a few of the games. Vick will probably be great, but as of now, the Chargers made the right choice. Vick hasn't done much more than Brees. Vick doesn't compare to LT + Brees.

But Baltimore was able to win their division with a crappy QB(s), an above average oline and no WRs and a RB who had less total yards than LT. How can you say LT wasnt utilized? What else could he have done, been the punter? He had nearly 1700 yards and a 100 catches. You would take the Brees/LT combo over Vick? WOW. Vick has made the playoffs, a pro Bowl(which he will again this season) and beat Brett Favre in Lambeau field in the playoffs. Vick's stats arent great, but he puts the fear of God into every defense coordinator in the league.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Axegrinder
Maybe he can trade for Tony Banks.

Sage Rosenfels is probably available.

[Gump84]

Sorry, it should have said "utilized more often". I can remember numerous 1st and goal (from the 1 or 2 yard line) when Marty chose to throw the ball 3 times rather than run LT and the Chargers ended up with a FG. BTW, the fact that LT wasn't in the probowl this year proves the probowl is a meaningless popularity contest. With the exception of maybe Priest Holmes, he is the best RB in the NFL. MUCH better than Portis or Jamal Lewis, who both made the probowl over him. Baltimore had an above average O-line, as you just said, and played in the worst division in the NFL, so you really don't have a point there. The Chargers have a non-existant O-line and have 2 very good, solid teams to go up against. Put Vick on the Chargers with that O-line and no receivers and see what he does - pretty much nothing. LT had amazing stats in a horrible offense.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Originally posted by akhhorus
the SD fans will basically revolt.

There are SD fans? :D

[Gump84]

Is it just me, or is everyone else also having technical errors after each post?

[redwolf1218]

yea in vicks case if you spy you are playing 10 against 11 and the guy you have spying on vick is gonna get beat anyway. dang tonlinsons numbers were awesome. do they have anyone else on that team? he must be really tired.

[redwolf1218]

i am having technical errors after each post. when i watch vick, i am hoping the play will break down and he will run.

[Axegrinder]

He is fun to watch!

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Sorry, it should have said "utilized more often". I can remember numerous 1st and goal (from the 1 or 2 yard line) when Marty chose to throw the ball 3 times rather than run LT and the Chargers ended up with a FG. BTW, the fact that LT wasn't in the probowl this year proves the probowl is a meaningless popularity contest. With the exception of maybe Priest Holmes, he is the best RB in the NFL. MUCH better than Portis or Jamal Lewis, who both made the probowl over him. Baltimore had an above average O-line, as you just said, and played in the worst division in the NFL, so you really don't have a point there. The Chargers have a non-existant O-line and have 2 very good, solid teams to go up against. Put Vick on the Chargers with that O-line and no receivers and see what he does - pretty much nothing. LT had amazing stats in a horrible offense.

Vick made the playoffs with NO oline(Bob Whitfield? lol), no real running game, no real WRs(outside of Crumpler, but he never threw to him) and a fairly crappy defense. You put Vick on last year's SD team, they would be at least 8-8.

[natgbz]

Originally posted by akhhorus
But Baltimore was able to win their division with a crappy QB(s), an above average oline and no WRs and a RB who had less total yards than LT. How can you say LT wasnt utilized? What else could he have done, been the punter? He had nearly 1700 yards and a 100 catches. You would take the Brees/LT combo over Vick? WOW. Vick has made the playoffs, a pro Bowl(which he will again this season) and beat Brett Favre in Lambeau field in the playoffs. Vick's stats arent great, but he puts the fear of God into every defense coordinator in the league.

Baltimore has a very goood defense. San Diego is very much lacking in that department. There's your difference maker.

[Gump84]

You put Vick on last year's SD team, they would be 4-12 with the first draft pick as Vick didnt' do much better last year than Brees. Other than that, the Falcons still had more of an Oline than the Chargers. I'm done arguing. You're in love with Vick and nothing will change that.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
You put Vick on last year's SD team, they would be 4-12 with the first draft pick as Vick didnt' do much better last year than Brees. Other than that, the Falcons still had more of an Oline than the Chargers. I'm done arguing. You're in love with Vick and nothing will change that.

they would be 4-12 if Vick was injured. The Falcons had a terrible team around him in 2002 and they did well because the opposing teams were scared of Vick. Im not in love with Vick, I think he's not a great pure QB and his style of play isnt true to pure NFL football. BUT, he's one hell of a player who can change the game in one play. And Im sorry youre so frustrated that youve given up

[Gump84]

Brees' 2003 QB rating: 67.5

Vicks's 2003 QB rating: 69

Wow, he's just a God.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
You put Vick on last year's SD team, they would be 4-12 with the first draft pick as Vick didnt' do much better last year than Brees.

Do you think Vick's stats have to do with the fact that he missed basically the entire year? I guess you didnt watch his comeback against Carolina, where Vick had 320 total yards and had some of the most amazing runs ever. Guess you missed that game

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Agree akhhorus. Michael Vick is just THE PLAYMAKER. Best football player in the world right now. QB position will never be the same since this guy.

[Axegrinder]

I think Vick is great,but he needs to work on his touch.He still throws too hard sometimes.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Brees' 2003 QB rating: 67.5

Vicks's 2003 QB rating: 69

Wow, he's just a God.

he played four games last year.

Drew Bledsoe(4 game stretch): QB rating: 62

Marc Bulger(4 game stretch): QB rating: 51

Jake Delhomme(4 game stretch): QB rating: 60.5

Jay Fielder(4 game stretch): QB rating: 53

Jeff Garcia(4 Game stretch): QB rating: 63

Jake Plummer(4 game stretch): QB rating: 73

Patrick Ramsey(4 game stretch: QB rating: 62

Chad Pennington(4 game stretch: QB rating: 63

Donvovan McNabb(4 game stretch where they went 3-1): 59

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by LaVarGreen2856
Agree akhhorus. Michael Vick is just THE PLAYMAKER. Best football player in the world right now. QB position will never be the same since this guy.

This is my point: Vick isnt a great pure QB, but he causes havoc because of his improvisational skill and running ability.

[Gump84]

Ha, and I suppose you didn't watch any of LT's amazing 200+ yard games. That guy must have had a 70+ yard run or reception in 5 or 6 games. You are calling a 3rd year player who has done NOTHING the best player in the world. Do you really believe that?

[akhhorus]

And Vick's four games Last year:
Carolina(NFC Champ): still had 320 yards
Indy(Playoff team): Peyton destroyed the weak Atlanta Defense and Vick never got on track. Manning had 290 yards and 5 TDs
Tampa:who has always done well against Vick, but the Scrub Vick had a rating of 119
Jacksonville: where he had a rating of 93

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Ha, and I suppose you didn't watch any of LT's amazing 200+ yard games. That guy must have had a 70+ yard run or reception in 5 or 6 games. You are calling a 3rd year player who has done NOTHING the best player in the world. Do you really believe that?

When did I call him the best player in the world? He isnt even the best QB in the league. All I am saying is that he's a very good/borderline great player. Tomlinson had 6 games over 100 yards and both of his 200 yard games were against terrible run defense(Cleveland and Oakland). He had 2 or 3 70 yard runs and two 70 yard catches. He's very RB; but if SD had to make the pick again they WOULD take Vick. Also, I thought you were "done" arguing with me?

[Gump84]

Yes, because I called him a scrub. Still had 320 yards huh? Yeah, and he had a 52.5 rating. Let's look at his 119 rating game:
8 of 15 for 119 yards and 2 TDs. What an AMAZING GAME!!! Vick is a good player, but not as good as you'd have the world believe.

[akhhorus]

He had 320 total yards and beat the NFC champ(with their Great defense). When Vick lights up the league this year and makes the Pro Bowl(and/or the Playoffs) with good stats, I expect you to come on here and issue an apology: I will do the same if he doesnt. Why dont you submit questions to guys like Prisco at CBS or Dr. Z and ask who they would take?

[Gump84]

Wait, wait, wait. How does that work? LT only gets credit for a 200+ yard game when he rushes for 200+ but Vick gets credit for passing AND rushing against Carolina?

LT:
211 total yards in week 4
221 in week 7
207 in week 10
236 in week 14
260 in week 17


You don't understand, San Diego has NO OFFENSIVE LINE. None. Non-existant. Absolutely none. Nada.

I never said Vick wasn't a decent QB. His running skills are amazing but he has not proven ANYTHING. He had a great year in 2002, but that was one year. LT is still young as well, but he is an amazing two demonisonal player. Vick is too, but he is much more effective running than throwing. He has an amazing arm, but never puts up big numbers in the passing department. All I have to say is we'll see what happens in 2004. Vick at least has a semi-decent team. More than you can say about San Diego.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Originally posted by Gump84
Ha, and I suppose you didn't watch any of LT's amazing 200+ yard games. That guy must have had a 70+ yard run or reception in 5 or 6 games. You are calling a 3rd year player who has done NOTHING the best player in the world. Do you really believe that?

When healthy, Vick shocked the league, led the Falcons to the 2nd round of the playoffs knocking the Packers for the first time in Lambeu. What have the Chargers done?? Mmmm... In your own words: NOTHING. By the way, the are likely to get Eli Manning so they can dump Brees, who can't win the job against a 40 year old guy. If the could pick again they would get Vick, and I don't think anybody doubts that. Tomlinson is great, but is least likely to get things done by himself than Vick.

[Gump84]

Alright, well it has been fun debating with you. I'm not trying to get into any fights because we obviously have different points of view, and I respect that. I'm going to sign off for a while. Have a good night.

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Yes, because I called him a scrub. Still had 320 yards huh? Yeah, and he had a 52.5 rating. Let's look at his 119 rating game:
8 of 15 for 119 yards and 2 TDs. What an AMAZING GAME!!! Vick is a good player, but not as good as you'd have the world believe.

youre the one who puts so much stock in QB ratings. I care about wins.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Originally posted by Gump84
He had a great year in 2002, but that was one year.

And the next year (by the way, the last one) got injured and missed nearly the whole season??? You talk about him being a one year wonder like if he had been in the league for 8 or 10 years.... come on! How many seasons does he have as a starter right now? (Full seasons)

[akhhorus]

Originally posted by Gump84
Wait, wait, wait. How does that work? LT only gets credit for a 200+ yard game when he rushes for 200+ but Vick gets credit for passing AND rushing against Carolina?

LT:
211 total yards in week 4
221 in week 7
207 in week 10
236 in week 14
260 in week 17


You don't understand, San Diego has NO OFFENSIVE LINE. None. Non-existant. Absolutely none. Nada.

I never said Vick wasn't a decent QB. His running skills are amazing but he has not proven ANYTHING. He had a great year in 2002, but that was one year. LT is still young as well, but he is an amazing two demonisonal player. Vick is too, but he is much more effective running than throwing. He has an amazing arm, but never puts up big numbers in the passing department. All I have to say is we'll see what happens in 2004. Vick at least has a semi-decent team. More than you can say about San Diego.

Thats not true, he has an average oline. I thought you were talking about rushing yards, even so; LT is the only player in the greater San Diego area who can play offense and they depended on him. BUT guys like Jamal "Tron" Lewis, Ricky Williams and Deuce McCaslliter were the only things on their teams and they did much better than San Diego. LT is a very good player, but my point; which you seems to be avoided is that if they could do it again, SD would pick Vick.

[sdredskinsfan]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gump84
Who has panned out better so far, Michael Vick or LT? Vick is great, but LT is too. As of right now, I'd definitely take Brees + LT over Vick. Not a stupid choice by the Chargers if you ask me. And besides, since when is Manning such a sure fire pick?????????? [/QUOTE

Brees has been a huge disappointment. LT is probably the best back in the league: he consistently posts top-notch stats behind a very below-average line. I'd still take Vick over LT though. But not as much as a faux pas as the Leaf episode.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I think we all (sorry, Gump, almost all) agree on that.

Going back into subject (Sean Taylor), this is some stuff I found somewhere:

(Taylor will run his 40 time again and is expected to run very well, this pick should come down to Taylor or Winslow Jr.) (Sean Taylor would stabilize a revamped secondary with his playmaking ability, Taylor is the best player in this draft and will have the biggest impact as a rookie, some will say drafting a Safety this high is a risk but not with a player like Taylor, you are not just getting a Safety, you are getting a player that can take over a game on defense. After having a great work out, Tommie Harris also is still in the picture, he and newly signed DT Griffin would make a great Combination but the Redskins will also get DT Brandon Noble back next season who they considered a good signing last off season, also despite the signing of DE Phillips Daniels, Kenechi Udeze could also be the pick as well!) (The Pat's want Sean Taylor and might be willing to package both #1's or one of the first round picks and both #2's for this pick were they would then draft Taylor, Belichek has mention that he thinks Sean Taylor is the best player in this draft!)

[redwolf1218]

ok so basically we can either take taylor, or trade the pick to belichek. i dont like belichecks draft numbers. sorry, everyone knows he has (2) 1sts and (2) 2nds. but his 1sts are what? 21 and 32? i think we can trade down to like the 10 to 12 spot. not go all the way down to 21.

[redwolf1218]

the chargers are interviewing taylor, as reported by paskinsgirl earlier in this threaded, not because he would be taken 1st overall, but because they would take him with the 4th pick after trading down with the giants, who want manning. this would leave us at 5 with taylor off the board. now what?

[redwolf1218]

marty wants a really good defense so he can win all his games 3 to nothing.

[natgbz]

Originally posted by REDWOLF1218
the chargers are interviewing taylor, as reported by paskinsgirl earlier in this threaded, not because he would be taken 1st overall, but because they would take him with the 4th pick after trading down with the giants, who want manning. this would leave us at 5 with taylor off the board. now what?

The Sean Taylor fans around here would be squashed, although they'll be gone on April 24th regardless.

[badpigs442]

Just because a player intrviews does not mean he is targeted by that club. Deangelo Hall will be visiting Redskins Park before the draft, but their is probably less chance of us taking him in the draft than the Chargers with Taylor at #1. Teams just like to get to know players. They will all be free agents someday.

[badpigs442]

The real skinny on SD IMO is that they will trade the pick to the Cardinals. Arizona will reward Fitzgerald for being such a high class individual and select him #1. SD will then still use the pick at #3 for a Qb, and they will have avoided drafting him #1 overall.

[sdredskinsfan]

Yeah, I get the sense from reading the stuff on Chargers out here in Flakesville that Chargers will trade down and still get a QB.

[badpigs442]

Don't know who he is going to throw to, but the draft is deep at receiver and they could use the extra pick to snag one that could catch some passes.

[badpigs442]

Kinda like Houston did when they got Carr and then selected Gaffney with the first pick in the second round.

[akhhorus]

getting back on topic: I beleive this talk SD is doing with Taylor is a ruse to sucker someone into trading up. I believe that they really like Philip Rivers, and they would love to trade down(to the 7-12 range) and get him.

[Skins57]

this has be a ploy to trade down. No way SD takes Taylor at one

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by akhhorus
LT is a great back, but Id rather have Vick.

If I had to choose today, Id take LT.

[skinswin'emALL]

Originally posted by WinslowRedskin
Yeah I don't think the Chargers will pass up Manning. They passed up Peyton, and they passed up Vick. They won't pass up Eli.

Is my memory wrong?

I thought Peyton was the #1 pick by the Colts and the Chargers had the #2 pick (after trading w/ the Cards, I think) and they took Ryan Leaf :doh:

Unless I remember it wrong......

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