View Full Version : Did you hear what JAWS said on ESPN Radio
Skinsfan1906
04-07-2004, 11:21 AM
Ron "Jaws" Jaworski was just interviewed on ESPN Radio. They talked about what the Redskins are going to do at the #5 pick in the draft.
Well, Jaws who said that he knows Gibbs well (from playing against him for years) and studying film, he believes that the Redskins will pick:
Kellen Winslow, TE Miami
He mentioned how important the H-Back is to Gibbs and that Winslow is a great fit for Gibbs. He went on to say that with our O-Line, "great" Receivers and Portis, that Brunell (and Ramsey) would have a field day, particularly if Winslow is selected, which he believes will happen. He also hinted that Winslow is a BEAST.
He didn't rule out selecting anyone else (i.e. Taylor, Udeze, etc.), but really has a "gut feeling" that this is the direction that the 'Skins are going. Thoughts...........
RedskinRyan
04-07-2004, 11:32 AM
my order is this
1.)wilfork/tommie harris
2.)udeze/will smith
3.)winslow
4.)taylor
i'd be mad if we drafted taylor. i think he would be great, but we have many needs. i want winslow, but i think we have too many needs on the dline and no draft picks to fulfill them. but our offense would be scary good if we had winslow.
TexSkin
04-07-2004, 11:36 AM
Well that all chnaged when the Postons became his agent imo. If I was the Skins I woudl stay away from the headache of the holdout that will surely come.
SkinsCT
04-07-2004, 11:51 AM
Well that all chnaged when the Postons became his agent imo. If I was the Skins I woudl stay away from the headache of the holdout that will surely come.
Agreed. A holdout is a 100% certainty if we draft a Poston-represented player that high. It's a shame.
Skinsfan1906
04-07-2004, 11:56 AM
Well that all chnaged when the Postons became his agent imo. If I was the Skins I woudl stay away from the headache of the holdout that will surely come.
Yeah, TexSkin, when I was listening to Jaws talking, I was thinking to myself that it sounds reasonable that the Skins would go after Winslow, however the Postons signing with him would be a major road block. I don't know if Jaws even considered the agents when talking about who we would select. I still would prefer Taylor (yep, I'm still on the Taylor bandwagon), however, if New England will make a BLOCK-BLUSTER trade with us (which has been rumored), then I would trade down and Grab Udeze AND Wilfolk or Harris.
SkinsKY
04-07-2004, 11:56 AM
Yadda Yadda. Nothing really new here. Drafting Winslow means that we'll just become the Chiefs and hope that nobody can outscore us. Not the best place to be.
REDMAN
04-07-2004, 12:58 PM
If we trade down to far we wont get a top D-lineman.
JoeDaSchmoe
04-07-2004, 01:08 PM
Yadda Yadda. Nothing really new here. Drafting Winslow means that we'll just become the Chiefs and hope that nobody can outscore us. Not the best place to be.
13-3 vs. 5-11. Which would you take?
akhhorus
04-07-2004, 01:10 PM
I still dont think you can believe any info that is being put out there right now. Too close to the draft. Winslow wouldnt surprise me, but I think he might be taken by Arizona.
My top three possibilities:
1-Taylor
2-Harris/Wilfolk
3-Trade down and take a dlinemen
SkinsKY
04-07-2004, 01:30 PM
13-3 vs. 5-11. Which would you take?
I would certainly take 13-3 but, (unless you've changed your stance) I think you would agree that we need help on defense. Even if we field the best offense in football, the chances are, we won't get to where we want to be without defense. It has bitten the Chiefs/Colts/Rams etc. You don't need the best offense to win games provided you have a good defense. I think we already have a good offense will all major components intact. Our defense however does not. I do not want to be like the Chiefs in that regard.
ShaggySkins
04-07-2004, 01:32 PM
A holdout is a possiblity regardless of who the agent is. If Gibbs thinks Winslow is a potential pro bowler and can drastically improve this team I don't think they'll pass on him. Especially if they view him as the best player. And judging from what I've seen and heard about Winslow, he's not the type to sit in the dark and let his agents handle everything. Him and his dad will have a pretty large say in the contract negoitiatons. The Postons have typically held their clients in the dark regarding negotiations I don't think that'll be an issue because Winslow will have his nose in everything.
VTSkins897
04-07-2004, 01:48 PM
i think you gotta look to the playmaker. by that i mean there's a good chance that winslow will improve the offense significantly. this is not to say that drafting DL or taylor wouldn't improve the defense, but would it be anything more than marginable? that's arguable. but i've jumped/joined every draftee bandwagon there is numerous times, so don't listen to me.
VTSkins897
04-07-2004, 01:48 PM
i mean you heard the guy... he IS a "(flipping) soldier!"
lsuredskin
04-07-2004, 02:26 PM
Don't be fooled by the whole anti-Poston thing. If they want KWll then the Skins will take him regardless of the Postons. The good thing about drafting a TE at #5 is that he would instantly be the highest paid TE in the league anyway, just on draft position.
akhhorus
04-07-2004, 02:44 PM
KWII is a playmaker, but the Skins have Portis and Coles to be the playmakers on offense. The Skins could use a playmaker on Defense, and Taylor or Wilfolk could be that
Meadowlark
04-07-2004, 02:54 PM
KWII is a playmaker, but the Skins have Portis and Coles to be the playmakers on offense. The Skins could use a playmaker on Defense, and Taylor or Wilfolk could be that
My thoughts exactly!
jtpop
04-07-2004, 02:58 PM
I think Winslow is a distinct possibility. But where do you turn if somehow both
he and Taylor are off the board? Do you take a Harris at that point? Trade down and hope to get a DT/DE and additional pick(s)? Wide Receiver is not a need and at that position there would be a lot available. I don't believe the scenario is probable but stranger things have happened on draft day!
badpigs442
04-07-2004, 04:28 PM
Jaws is a former Quarterback who love diagraming plays. He would have a field day with the Redskins offense if they were to pick up Winslow. The defense is to shaky IMO.
redwolf1218
04-07-2004, 04:55 PM
i read an artical on the postons, and some GM was saying that the problem with them comes mostly in free agency. draft picks are pretty much slotted. if he is picked number 5 he should sign for a deal between the 4th and 6th picks' deals. however, that being said, i do recall a controversy with signing smoot where they said he should get more money than the slot where he was drafted because he had fallen so far in the draft due to unsubstantiated reports about his off field character (some party where somebody used drugs and smoot was present). a ridiculous argument, but i dont remember, did smoot hold out? i just hope they dont come up with some kind of ridiculous argument about signing winslow if it so happens that we take him.
VTSkins897
04-07-2004, 04:59 PM
JAWS = winnnnnner
rskinsfan10
04-07-2004, 05:04 PM
i read an artical on the postons, and some GM was saying that the problem with them comes mostly in free agency. draft picks are pretty much slotted. if he is picked number 5 he should sign for a deal between the 4th and 6th picks' deals. however, that being said, i do recall a controversy with signing smoot where they said he should get more money than the slot where he was drafted because he had fallen so far in the draft due to unsubstantiated reports about his off field character (some party where somebody used drugs and smoot was present). a ridiculous argument, but i dont remember, did smoot hold out? i just hope they dont come up with some kind of ridiculous argument about signing winslow if it so happens that we take him.
Sexton said that Ramsey deserved 1st round money, despite the team's assertion that he should receive a deal in line with what the first pick of the 2nd round got the year before. The teams argument was that he should be paid 2nd round money because if it weren't for the Texans being in the draft, the 32nd pick of the draft that year was equivalent to the first pick in the 2nd, which represented a significant drop in pay.
My point is, the Postons are no different then any other agent.
truant
04-07-2004, 05:06 PM
I like Jaws and I think that he is one of the better tv analysts out there, but i don't agree with him here.
This Poston thing is a big deal. Winslow Sr. apparently had the skins list three agents and of course the Postons were last- and Winslow still went with him. That's pretty stubborn and I can't imagine what they'll be like come contract time with being represented by the Postons.
We might become like the Chiefs if we get KW2, but the Chiefs were in the AFC West, big difference in defenses.
skinswin
04-07-2004, 05:31 PM
Yadda Yadda. Nothing really new here. Drafting Winslow means that we'll just become the Chiefs and hope that nobody can outscore us. Not the best place to be.
Exactly. We should have higher asperations. We aspire to be SB champs. We need to address the defense big time because on paper, our offense allready looks like top ten material to me.
Redskinfan28
04-07-2004, 05:34 PM
Yeah, TexSkin, when I was listening to Jaws talking, I was thinking to myself that it sounds reasonable that the Skins would go after Winslow, however the Postons signing with him would be a major road block. I don't know if Jaws even considered the agents when talking about who we would select. I still would prefer Taylor (yep, I'm still on the Taylor bandwagon), however, if New England will make a BLOCK-BLUSTER trade with us (which has been rumored), then I would trade down and Grab Udeze AND Wilfolk or Harris.
If we trade with NE, there is zero chance we get any of those guys.
Redskinfan28
04-07-2004, 05:36 PM
Jaws knows his sh-t. I take alot of value in what he says. The fact remains that we still need a H-Back to stretch the middle of the field. Sellers is not the answer.
redwolf1218
04-07-2004, 06:06 PM
i agree sellars is not the answer but he is a big guy with potential. i like the combinations with sellars, kwII, rock and portis. i could see kwII at tight end with sellars at hback and portis at tailback. run, pass, screen or air it out with plenty of pass protection? who knows? why bring in kwII for interview if you're not thinking about it? why hire the postons if you are kwII and you want to be a redskin? why hire them at all, is that real smart? and on the other hand, the post about sexton and ramsey, thats a good point. the skins cant really hand pick the agents.
garedskin
04-07-2004, 06:30 PM
Well with all the Draft prospects visiting over the next 2 weeks. I think it is safe to assume they have not settled on who to take at #5. I am still thinking Taylor.But we will all be watching anxiously to see who we end up with.
Yudolindo
04-07-2004, 07:55 PM
Wilfork please.
hail2skins
04-07-2004, 08:02 PM
So some of you are saying we should stay away from all players who are represented by the Poston's. Interesting. Pick your poison as they say when it comes to agents.
Yudolindo
04-07-2004, 08:08 PM
I think it’s a matter that we have plenty of offense but we need D help. I think Winslow’s selection of the Postions, who are negligent amongst other things, cemented that opinion. No one wants another Lavar and I don’t understand why people are suddenly rallying to the Postions defense.
akhhorus
04-07-2004, 08:49 PM
I think the difference between the Postons and other agents is that, as expressed by Orlando Pace, the POstons dont inform their clients of what their team's offers are and hold out until they get an offer they want. The Rams president said that dealing with them is like answering a ransom note. These people(agents in general) are suppose to represent their clients, not screw their clients reps just to make an extra 100 thousand or so.
bigcmr
04-07-2004, 08:50 PM
Winslow is a good player but at this point in time. We have way bigger holes on D. Gibbs knows that .
SusQhnnaSkin
04-07-2004, 08:54 PM
We got the #5 overall pick. There are lots of great thing that can happen for us. KWII=stud. Taylor=stud. Udeze=stud. It's a little like trying to pick your fav. flavor of ice-cream....they are ALL so yummy. On Apr. 24 I'm gonna do 2 things: 1- drink lots of Yuengling. 2- cheer a new member of the Redskins.
My fav. flavor? Trade down, get Udeze
IowaSkinsFan
04-08-2004, 12:54 AM
Jaws must not know about the Poston thing.
vegeta2364
04-08-2004, 01:20 AM
well in my opinion (dont know if it matters) but we should get tommie harris. with rasby blocking and sellars doing well in camp, and two playmakers on offense, a scrambler qb and a pocket qb, best set of WR in the league we shall do ok on offense. Defense we need to stop to run. with stopping the run with harris arringotn and washington blitz, which putting pressure on the qb, therefore giving springs, and smoot and opportunity to make a big play. Um Udeze wound't be that bad either. Our safeties are improivng
dogfight6
04-08-2004, 06:35 AM
Drafting Winslow would make the Skins like the Rams of a few years ago. Score 34 points however the d gives up 35. If they stay at 5 go with Taylor or Harris.
skinswin'emALL
04-08-2004, 07:09 AM
Drafting Winslow would make the Skins like the Rams of a few years ago. Score 34 points however the d gives up 35. If they stay at 5 go with Taylor or Harris.
Agreed.
IowaSkinsFan
04-08-2004, 07:13 AM
well in my opinion (dont know if it matters) but we should get tommie harris. with rasby blocking and sellars doing well in camp, and two playmakers on offense, a scrambler qb and a pocket qb, best set of WR in the league we shall do ok on offense. Defense we need to stop to run. with stopping the run with harris arringotn and washington blitz, which putting pressure on the qb, therefore giving springs, and smoot and opportunity to make a big play. Um Udeze wound't be that bad either. Our safeties are improivng
I tend to agree.
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