2004 NFL Draft

[badpigs442]

I think they will probably draft a RB in a later round.

Can still get a good one to. Plus with two picks in next years low talent draft, they could make a move to get one of the top prospects......I still like that they didn't get a Rb.

[RedskinRyan]

Can still get a good one to. Plus with two picks in next years low talent draft, they could make a move to get one of the top prospects......I still like that they didn't get a Rb.

i love it

[badpigs442]

Tubbs will be better than Wilfork. He's a horse.

[Spence]

Nice pick by the Seahawks. Tubbs should help them. Even the Skins were able to run on Seattle last year.

[Spence]

If the Bengals have any doubts about Rudi Johnson they can go for Stephen Jackson here. I don't think they do it, though. If I was picking for Cincy I'd go get Will Poole or Ahmed Carroll. They need help in the secondary pretty desperately.

[BigCountry]

I said this before and I'm saying it again, if Randy Starks falls to the 2nd round, the Redskins will be making some phone calls.

[Spence]

Randy Starks would be decent value here, too. I'm biased, but I really like Starks.

[badpigs442]

If the Bengals have any doubts about Rudi Johnson they can go for Stephen Jackson here. I don't think they do it, though. If I was picking for Cincy I'd go get Will Poole or Ahmed Carroll. They need help in the secondary pretty desperately.

Chris Gamble is the best remaining Cb. I spect him.

[BigCountry]

I think this is a lock for Gamble.

[Spence]

Gamble would be a solid pick. I'm wondering why he's dropped so far, though. He'd been considered a top 20 pick earlier.

[badpigs442]

I think this is a lock for Gamble.

Means they made a great trade with Denver.

[badpigs442]

Bengals need to start Palmer. They are paying him to play. He's had a year to learn. Their is no reason this kid should sit a whole nother year.

[Spence]

In retrospect, Marvin Lewis should have gone with his first instinct and drafted Terrance Newman.

[badpigs442]

I said this before and I'm saying it again, if Randy Starks falls to the 2nd round, the Redskins will be making some phone calls.

We don't need a DT, we need a DE.

[Spence]

We don't need a DT, we need a DE.Oh, we need a DT. We also need a DE. Actually, we probably need two of each. The smart pick would be the better value in the second round and Starks would be the better value pick

[Dre-The-Great]

Yes Randy Starks would be nice

[badpigs442]

Oh, we need a DT. We also need a DE. Actually, we probably need two of each. The smart pick would be the better value in the second round and Starks would be the better value pick

Odom and Babin could possibly be around in round 2.

[RichardBradley]

What do we have to trade? No one is going to give us a second rounder for Gardner.

[badpigs442]

Is this Canidate all over again?

[ShaggySkins]

Thats a great deal for the Rams to get Jackson this far down in the first round

[Skins57]

What do we have to trade? No one is going to give us a second rounder for Gardner.
I think we would have to throw in a 3rd rounder from next year

[ShaggySkins]

Stephen Jackson is A LOT more accomplished then Canidate was.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

jackson to the rams? never saw that coming.........im just SOOOO happy that the girls or gals didnt get him......

[BigCountry]

A team with 2nd rounders (49ers) might take him, and a high pick next year.

[ShaggySkins]

Are we able to trade the rights to Iffy since he is a RFA???

[badpigs442]

I would have thought they would have taken Jones becuase he is fast.

[Spence]

All right! I got one. No way Jackson would get past the Rams. I was sure of that and the Rams made a very good move. I don't care what they gave up to the Bengals, that was a great trade by the Rams. Probably a very nice trade for the Bengals, too.

[Skins57]

I am surprised, Dallas would let Jackson go but they got a good deal so I guess they will be happy with Jones

[Spence]

Okay, so maybe I'm not so dumb after all. Ahmad Carroll goes before Gamble.

[Skins57]

Ahmad Carroll seems like a reach. at 25 what do you think?

[badpigs442]

Ahmad Carroll seems like a reach. at 25 what do you think?

Yea.

[Spence]

It's all about his quickness. Speed kills.

[Skins57]

Does Cincy get a CB here also? Gamble or Poole? I can see Gamble.

[RichardBradley]

I wouldn't be suprised to see Starks go here

[Spence]

Bengals will definitely go defense. Poole, Gamble or Starks. I think the Bengals badly need a good cornerback, but Starks would be a good value pick.

[Skins57]

Perry wow I thought maybe Jones. Good one less RB for Dallas

[RichardBradley]

Perry is a reach here... He is to slow

[Spence]

I guess they figured they were okay once they got CB Deltha O'Neal. I'm not so sure about that, though. The Broncos traded for Bailey because O'Neal had been a stiff in Denver. I think I would have gone cornerback again or I would have gone for Starks. I suppose this is insurance in case Rudi Johnson is a one-year wonder.

[TwistyNiblet]

I wonder when Greg Jones is going to go.

[badpigs442]

Perry was a better pick for Cinci because of their division. They play some smash mouth teams, Raven, Pittsburgh. Thats more like where Perry played in the Big 10.

[RichardBradley]

I think that Greg Jones will last until the 3rd

[Skins57]

Does Tenn go after Jake Grove here next? or does Starks get drafted

[Spence]

Titans could DEFINITELY use Randy Starks here, but going running back wouldn't be a bad idea either. Eddie George is just about done and the team is relying too much on Steve McNair to win games.

[badpigs442]

Titans are almost a lock for D-line.

[TwistyNiblet]

This will be Starks. You heard it here.

[RichardBradley]

Kevin Jones !

[Skins57]

Titans could DEFINITELY use Randy Starks here, but going running back wouldn't be a bad idea either. Eddie George is just about done and the team is relying too much on Steve McNair to win games.

RB never crossed my mind so which Jones would be best. Kevin or Greg

[Skinzaholic]

I think Starks will go... but leaving Dallas without a RB sure sounds good!

[Spence]

I'd go Kevin Jones, but the Titans might consider Greg Jones the best replacement for George since he runs more like George. I think Kevin Jones is much more likely to be a star, though.

[TwistyNiblet]

Jason Babin? Who is this guy?

[Skins57]

Jason Babin to Houston. What did Houston give up to get the pick?

[RichardBradley]

Charlie does it again

[badpigs442]

Selecting a DE from picks 20-32 is a complete reach. They never pan out.

[TwistyNiblet]

So who do you think has had the "steal of the first round" thus far?

[Skins57]

Wilfork

[TwistyNiblet]

Wilfork
Really? I thought Wilfork went where he should have went.

[Skins57]

Houston gives a 2nd, 3rd 4th and 5th rounders to get Tenn pick also get a 5th back

[Skins57]

Really? I thought Wilfork went where he sould have went.


I have seen him as high as 9th and I thought he would be right around there

[Spence]

Stephen Jackson is the steal of the draft so far. Tommie Harris and Udeze get honorable mention.

[TwistyNiblet]

I would have to agree that Jackson has been "the steal" so far.

[badpigs442]

Jackson.

[badpigs442]

To bad they didn't have him for the Super Bowl.

[badpigs442]

Gamble that is.

[Spence]

I think Gamble deserved to fall that far. I'm no higher on him than Kiper is. I think Will Poole might be a good pick for the Colts here. They need secondary help. They lost both their starting cornerbacks. We've got one of 'em here in D.C.

[Skins57]

would have thought Woods would have been higher than jenkins.

[RichardBradley]

Jenkins is a reach here

[Spence]

I would have taken Rashaun Woods over Michael Jenkins. Falcons definitely trying to get some players for Vick. They don't want to learn the hard way, as Philly has done.

[BigCountry]

The 49ers are having a very good draft, especially if they select Rashaun Woods.

[Skins57]

Det does trade up, I bet they go Kevin Jones

[badpigs442]

Here comes Kevin Jones? Or is it actually ben Troupe. I say Troupe.

[Spence]

Lions trade up into KC's spot. Hopefully, the Lions will take a TB, reducing further the options the Cowboys have.

[RichardBradley]

Kevin Jones and Roy Williams would be a nice day for Joey Harrington

[Spence]

Kevin Jones for Detroit. Excellent. Detroit's offense, with Roy Williams, Charles Rogers, and Kevin Jones, ought to make a big improvement this year.

[Skins57]

Matt Millen trying to save his job and doing it well

[Spence]

Still some good TB options for the Cowboys, but not as good as they used to be. I'd like to see a mini-run on running backs before Dallas chooses again.

[ArRiNgToN_56]

Wow detroit appears to be on its way to the reincarnation of the St. Louis Rams of 99' 3 good wideouts a good RB and a good QB and an ok D.

[Spence]

Rashaun Woods is a nice pick by the Niners. I still think they'll struggle on offense this year, though.

Is it just me or has there been more trades in the first round than normal this year? I'm exhausted from just trying to keep up on the master board on the first page of this thread.

[Skins57]

Rashaun Woods is a nice pick by the Niners. I still think they'll struggle on offense this year, though.

Is it just me or has there been more trades in the first round than normal this year? I'm exhausted from just trying to keep up on the master board on the first page of this thread.


Better you than me Spence :D

[TwistyNiblet]

I thought Troupe would go before Watson.

[Skins57]

Chris Snee BC

Much needed oline help for NYG

[badpigs442]

NE got the draft that Some Skins fans coveted.

[TwistyNiblet]

Whoa, Tagliabue doesn't announce the second round picks? Bummer...

[TwistyNiblet]

Igor goes to the Bolts.

[Skins57]

Ricardo Colclough to Pitt. Pitt needs corners not sure how good this guy is but on my list he is hte next guy available

[GolfFreak]

Just got back from playing golf - surprised to see Stark is still on the board. And Udeze really fell far!!! I wonder if we are done for the day - maybe we can trade into the 2nd round for some D-Line help.

BTW - nervous already for next year when Dallass has two #1 picks!

[Skins57]

Daryl Smith Georgia

[Skins57]

would we be smart to trade Rod and a 3rd round next year to move and get Starks, or Dockett?

[Skins57]

I bet Tenn goes Stark next

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Dallas didn't get
Jackson
Jones
Perry

That's great!

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I can't believe Dockett and Starks are still on the board.

[Skins57]

Ben troupe is gone

This is our second round coming up Denver has. We could have a shot at Starks, Dockett or Washington at DT. Grove is still there

[Skins57]

Denver might go RB and Tenn has that possiblity also so Dallas might get nothing at RB

Denver got Tatum Bell

[Farbod]

Tatum Bell Gone!!!! Woohooo!!! Eat it Cowgirls!!!


:Pickle:

[Spence]

Denver got TB Tatum Bell. I guess Dallas can still go tailback, though it might not be the most productive pick. They have a need, though. They don't want to go back with Carter still at quarterback and Hambrick still at tailback.

[Spence]

I can't believe Dockett and Starks are still on the board.Starks should be gone by now. Dockett is still there because he's a thug just waiting to be arrested again.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Tenn will probably go DT right now.

[Skins57]

Does Dallas get Greg Jones now?

[Skins57]

Tenn will probably go DT right now.


DE LaBoy from Hawaii

[flave1969]

Dockett and Starks still there.
Gotta be some kind of trade we could do.

[Skins57]

I would even be happy to trade a 2 and 3 next year to move in hte second round right now

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Starks and Dockett still there....

[Skins57]

Oakland and Sf could use Gardner and they have picks after DAllas

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I just hope Dallas doesn't get Starks or Darnell. I don't know where they'll be going.

[Spence]

Julius Jones is the new Dallas tailback. Interesting. Good college player, but not the absolute elite.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Julius Jones for the Girls... how good is he?

[Skins57]

Julius Jones for the Girls... how good is he?


Whos brother is he? I remember reading somewhere but I forget.

[SkinsGuru]

Whos brother is he? I remember reading somewhere but I forget.


Isn't he Thomas Jones brother?

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Whos brother is he? I remember reading somewhere but I forget.
No idea. Only thing I know about him is that he's from ND.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Isn't he Thomas Jones brother?
Mmmm... right. I think he is. Then I do know something about him.

[TwistyNiblet]

Trade Gardner! Get Starks!

[Skins57]

Isn't he Thomas Jones brother?

youre right. thanks

I believe Gibbs is going to be interviewed when they come back on

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Robert Sanders to Indy. Will play along Doss. I insist... Dockett and Starks already there.... let's make a trade!

[RichardBradley]

Starks is looking real stupid for leaving school early now

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I don't remember this guy.... I thougth the 2nd safety would be Sean Jones(?)

[badpigs442]

Their is the man.

[TwistyNiblet]

Go Gibbs! You tell 'em!

[RichardBradley]

Joe Gibbs is the man.

[TwistyNiblet]

He handled the Winslow question well!

[Skins57]

Sweet. Could never get tired of hearing Coach Gibbs talk. We are so lucky

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Sweet. Could never get tired of hearing Coach Gibbs talk. We are so lucky
What did he say???? Tell me! Tell me!!

[badpigs442]

What did he say???? Tell me! Tell me!!

He basicly said KW is a cheese ball. He was excited to see all the support at Fed Ex.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

There goes my man Jake Grove to the Raiders.

What an OL they have right now... Grove and Gallery.

[Skins57]

Man we have to find a way to get SF pick next and get a DT argghhh so frustrating

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

San Francisco's turn... If we're trading Gardner, here is it.

[TwistyNiblet]

They've got to want Gardner...

[Skins57]

SF is hte team mentioned to be interested in ROD earlier on. I have a feeling it won't happen

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I want a DT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RichardBradley]

Why do you guys think anyone wants Gardner when we don't even want him?

[badpigs442]

They have Woods now.

[Skins57]

Why do you guys think anyone wants Gardner when we don't even want him?

I want to keep him but he is the only choice we have to trade that might get us into the 2nd along with a 2005 pick and a DT is much more a need than WR

[TwistyNiblet]

Why do you guys think anyone wants Gardner when we don't even want him?
Because SF is starved for WRs.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Why do you guys think anyone wants Gardner when we don't even want him?
We don't want him (some of us, not everybody) because we have Coles, Trash, Darnerien, Jacobs, Russell, etc...

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

They have Woods now.
That's a good point.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Smiley, a G to the 49ers.

[Skins57]

well I do not see us doing anything now

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Bears on the clock. I don't think the will go DT again, so Starks and Dockett will be dropping even more.

[TwistyNiblet]

C'mon Danny, make a move!!

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

well I do not see us doing anything now
I don't agree with us doing nothing, but I guess we won't.

[Dexter72]

You could sense that Gibbs was ticked and doing his best to remain calm when asked about KWII. I supported KWII (the guy has crazy talent), but seeing him now, starting a war of words with a Hall Of Fame coach, and talking about how the Skins would be headed for payback -- working Butch Davis into a corner before he's even been a Brown for a full day -- certainly makes me think that the Redskins went in a better direction...I'm still stuck on the fact that Wilfolk went at 21 and Watson at 32, but maybe NE never made an offer for 5....Anyhow, hail to the defense....it certainly is looking very solid with the additions of Barrow and Taylor -- and would be scary with another D Lineman or two -- Not to say the offense is looking too shabby.

[Skins57]

I just wish we could find a way to get Starks or Dockett. But I doubt we do anything

[BigCountry]

The defense is a year away at least. Barrow is old and our defensive line still has no pass rush.

[badpigs442]

What good does another DT do? We have two blue collar players who arn't rookies right now.

[RichardBradley]

Another DT but not one of those two

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I just wish we could find a way to get Starks or Dockett. But I doubt we do anything
I'm feelin ya'.....

I doubt it also. They must be partying with Taylor to realize that there are 2 big DT still.

[TwistyNiblet]

I'm starting to doubt that we will make a move...

[flave1969]

Chicago took a DT. Tank Johnson from Washington a supposed 4-5 rounder.

[badpigs442]

DE is a bigger need, but we can't afford to lose the Experience of Rod. Our offense would lose much more than the D would gain. I see teams DT Coles badly with no Rod.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Yep, the bears got a DT again! Terry Johnson.

Why Dockett and Starks have fallen so far?

[badpigs442]

Chicago took a DT. Tank Johnson from Washington a supposed 4-5 rounder.

Mel likes this guy. He's a work out warrior. He's been shooting up boards.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Look for a big year for Urlacher, behind these 2 new DT.

[TwistyNiblet]

Sorry, he WENT to Washington (for school).

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

WE took Terry Johnson, DT!
What?

Chicago did, didn't they?

[badpigs442]

WE took Terry Johnson, DT!

he went to udub.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

He is FROM Washington.

[TwistyNiblet]

I'm so sorry guys, I saw "Washington" and jumped...

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Thomas, an ILB to Minn.

[TwistyNiblet]

Damn I feel like an idiot...

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Damn I feel like an idiot...
Don't worry man... Look at the Cowboys to feel better.
We got Sean Taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol...

[BigCountry]

Ravens are on the clock, another team that could get Gardner, but it's very unlikely and wouldn't be a good move on our part. The F.O AND GIBBS really messed up when they gave away all our picks cause this is a very deep draft.

[badpigs442]

Henderson just went off the board, I bet they are talking about Gardner in the Ravens war room.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Can somebody explain to me why Dockett, Odom and Starks are still there?????

Denver just got Boulware... great pick IMO.

[badpigs442]

Can somebody explain to me why Dockett, Odom and Starks are still there?????

Denver just got Boulware... great pick IMO.

Dockett- becuase other DT's stock has been vastly improving
Odom- DE's taken high becuase of potential are often busts
Starks- Was said to be falling fast becuase of questionable ability.

[Va.SkinFan]

Almost the third round and starks still there on the boards. Cant believe it.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I dont think Marv Lewis and Cincy will pass on one of those DT. I thought Jax were going with Odom so they could get rid of a DE.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

They passed! They got a safety I don't know.

[badpigs442]

Great pick for the Titans.

[badpigs442]

Perfect spot to draft him.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Perfect spot to draft him.
They just got a steal.

[RichardBradley]

Madeau Williams was a great pick for Cincy

[badpigs442]

He fits their system. He will be pushed to be the next great player along a line who typically plays tough. (Odom)

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I'm wondering where will Starks and Dockett end.

[sammy]

I'm wondering where will Starks and Dockett end.
On the Redskins (I hope) :beer:

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

On the Redskins (I hope) :beer:
I would love it, but I don't think so.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Philly just got another steal IMO. Sean Jones - S - Georgia. He was projected (as far as I saw) as a late 1st early 2nd.

[badpigs442]

We definately need to keep our picks next year. Then we can speculate on the picks we have and not on ones we can't even make.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Philly just got another steal IMO. Sean Jones - S - Georgia. He was projected (as far as I saw) as a late 1st early 2nd.
With another steal I mean what the Titans got with Odom.

[hockeygoalie29]

Philly just got another steal IMO. Sean Jones - S - Georgia. He was projected (as far as I saw) as a late 1st early 2nd.

Philly? He went to Cleveland.

[sammy]

Philly just got another steal IMO. Sean Jones - S - Georgia. He was projected (as far as I saw) as a late 1st early 2nd.
Cleveland got him Thank God

[RichardBradley]

Philly already has 2 good safetys

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Philly? He went to Cleveland.
Right! I saw Philly... That's good. Thanks.

[badpigs442]

Jansen is a smart player. Our line will regroup after last years dismal performance to become great again.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

After all, they had a good draft.... KWII and Sean Jones.

[Farbod]

Phily and Dallas havent done jack in this draft its so great!!!

:D

[fourthandinches]

anyone see Jansen arguing for the skins? he was saying getting Portis was the better end of the deal, because as good as Bailey is, he doesnt control the game.

hail!

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Dockett to Arizona in round 3!!!!!!!

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I can't believe he dropped to the 3rd round.... I think Starks will be gone soon... SD's and Marty's turn, this is our last chance to get Starks, if we want to get him.

[badpigs442]

Starks will go in the next 5 I think. Watch for him at Tenn. #71.

[Farbod]

San Diego is the worst franchise in the NFL...

Eli fiasco in first...
Igor the workout warrior in second...
Kicker at the top of the third...

Good going morons!!!

[badpigs442]

Really a kicker in the third? Why? They have NO recievers.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

If Tennessee gets Starks they will be getting a hell of a draft! Troupe and Odom in the 2nd round. They and the lions could be the winners of the draft.

[badpigs442]

If Tennessee gets Starks they will be getting a hell of a draft! Troupe and Odom in the 2nd round. They and the lions could be the winners of the draft.

Did you hear that Hansworth was being fat as well as not going to mini-camp?

If they cut him he would be a nice pick up. Maybe expensive and not a pass rusher, but he is huge!

[badpigs442]

Who needs a backer? We should get a pick for Trot.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Who needs a backer? We should get a pick for Trot.
If we get one, I don't think it'll be in the 3rd.

[badpigs442]

yep. Starks to the Titans. :spy:

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

That's it... What a draft! They got Starks.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Troupe, Odom and Starks... all of them were at least by some, mentioned as 1st rounders. Wow!

[sammy]

That's it... What a draft! They got Starks.
Shoot me :imshock: :doh:

[badpigs442]

That's it... What a draft! They got Starks.

Good insurance incase Hanesworth gets to fat.....Actually he may start. Good competition for the rest of the team.

[GolfFreak]

Wow - they got 3 good players!!!

[badpigs442]

Troupe, Odom and Starks... all of them were at least by some, mentioned as 1st rounders. Wow!

The reason for that was becuase most people didn't realise the talent depth of this draft. They made educated guesses, but if all these guys had gone in the first they would have been reaches.

[badpigs442]

Wow - they got 3 good players!!!
Lots of talent, but very young.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I kinda agree, but with 2nd rounders, they all were steals IMO

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Lots of talent, but very young.
I would say:

Lots of talent, AND very young.

[badpigs442]

I would say:

Lots of talent, AND very young.

:beer: Starks won't be 21 till December.

[badpigs442]

Pitt is probably looking to trade down.

[badpigs442]

They need a T but their isn't one that warrant taking here.

[badpigs442]

Maybe not. Max Starx could do well, but could have waited till the fourth round. Of course they traded that pick.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

They got a DT

[badpigs442]

Nah, OT.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Strait... another steal.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I meant Buffalo.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Nah, OT.
I meant Buffalo.

[badpigs442]

I meant Buffalo.
O. Who got Straight

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Strait went to the jets

[badpigs442]

We got a pick!

[badpigs442]

Chris Cooley. Looks good to Kiper. Theirs our reciever at H-back.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

What did we give?????

[badpigs442]

I want them to say. They just told about the player.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft04/tracker/player?id=7955

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Grade: 78
Comments: Cooley is a good athlete who can adjust to the ball in the air. Rarely drops a pass, catches balls away from his frame and has the hands to make tough catches in traffic. Is a mismatch problem because of size and skills and has the potential to develop into a productive red-zone target. Shows good awareness and finds soft spots in zone coverage. Gets upfield quickly after the catch and is a powerful runner in the open field. Is a versatile player who can contribute in many different roles. Has experience lining up in the backfield, does a nice job of blocking in space, and really works to sustain his blocks. Plays with good intensity and takes adequate angles to his blocks. But Cooley isn't a dominant inline blocker and is more of an H-Back prospect. Doesn't play with a great base, doesn't get much pop at the point of attack and lacks the lower-body strength to push the pile in the running game. Lacks ideal speed and won't stretch opposing defenses at the next level. Isn't explosive coming out of his cuts and is more effective working against zone coverage than man coverage. Doesn't show much elusiveness or a second-gear after the catch. Cooley started his college career at defensive end and moved to tight end midway through his freshman season. He played as a ?move? tight end at Utah State, basically a hybrid tight end/fullback/H-back. Cooley has been one of the most prolific tight ends in Division I-A the last two seasons. He finished his senior season with a team-high 62 receptions for 732 yards and six touchdowns. Cooley projects as an H-back in the NFL. He lacks explosive speed and has limited upside after the catch. He also is undersized when compared to traditional tight ends and must be protected as a blocker. But Cooley is an intriguing early Day 2 prospect because of his versatility, hands and athleticism. He knows how to separate and get open as a receiver, he catches the ball extremely well on the run, and he is an efficient blocker in space. Cooley will never be a starter, but he has the potential to contribute at fullback, H-back and on special teams, and he certainly has the potential to develop into an excellent short-yardage/goal-line weapon.

[SkinsKY]

What did we give?????

This years 5th and next years 2nd. We must've really seen something in Cooley.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

This years 5th and next years 2nd. We must've really seen something in Cooley.
At least it will be a LATE 2nd rounder.

[MsTurriSux]

who got the worst end of their trade, buffalo or giants? i think its giants becasue rivers is right up there to manning and giants give a load of picks away

[badpigs442]

The Steaks just got a decent talent in Matt Ware. He's a tweener b/c he played both S/Cb, but he has talent. Maybe he'll be a bust.

[Gibss+Snyder=SB]

I also think the giants got the worst. Rivers is going to be amazing and probably better than Manning. They were just being nice and Bailing out the Chargers, because of the deep whole they got themselves in.....

[Green-Is-Good]

who got the worst end of their trade, buffalo or giants? i think its giants becasue rivers is right up there to manning and giants give a load of picks away

I still can't believe Buffalo drafted Lee Evans over Reggie Williams.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Why did the Bengals take Chris Perry when they have Rudi and they clearly need help on the defensive side? Should have gone defense with that first pick.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I think most people had Oakland going Fitz, but I can't quibble with taking Gallery. Despite what the Sean Taylor cult thinks, Gallery is the best college player in this draft.

Offensive Lineman are the easiest projection to the pro level. Gallery was the safe pick here.

The Jake Grove pick in the second was interesting. Norv must be trying to prolong Gannon's career by making sure he never gets hit.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Rivers wasnt worth that high.

Get a load of this. Randy Mueller, the former GM of the Saints, says it will be Rivers and not Manning, who gets to negotiate as the top pick of the draft, or at least, that should be his position anyway. It will be interesting to see how all of this pans out as it could have a significant impact on the Taylor contract talks. Taylor will want to be paid right behind either Rivers or Manning as one of them have to be viewed as the 4th pick. We could be in for a TC holdout.

[MsTurriSux]

I still can't believe Buffalo drafted Lee Evans over Reggie Williams. they couldnt draft williams, he was taken

[TwistyNiblet]

So is anyone actually going to watch rounds 4-7, other than checking in to see who the 'Skins pick?

[ArRiNgToN_56]

No I'll wait for it to come later. :typeR2:

[RichardBradley]

So is anyone actually going to watch rounds 4-7, other than checking in to see who the 'Skins pick?


I am I have a thing for Suzie Culver

[TwistyNiblet]

I am I have a thing for Suzie Culver
You can get help for that, you know.

[RichardBradley]

You can get help for that, you know.



What fun would that be?

[JakeIron]

A huge steal coming up, CB Will Poole from USC. Some had him going late in the 1st round, I don't think anyone expected him to be up there on day 2.

[Va.SkinFan]

Joe Gibbs, Isacc Hilton is still out there. Pick him in the 6th round. You cant lose.

[redskinmwt]

here's to next year when the skins are *hopefully* picking late in each and every round (barring any trades) and have more than one first day pick going into the draft :beer:

[badpigs442]

here's to next year when the skins are *hopefully* picking late in each and every round (barring any trades) and have more than one first day pick going into the draft :beer:

Truuuuuuuuue Dat.

[Skins57]

here's to next year when the skins are *hopefully* picking late in each and every round (barring any trades) and have more than one first day pick going into the draft :beer:


well we already have lost our 2nd and 5th rounders next season so it might be late but not every round

[redskinmwt]

i guess i shoulda clarified...picking late in *each and every round* that we have a pick in...but a 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 7th isn't all that bad

[Skins57]

i guess i shoulda clarified...picking late in *each and every round* that we have a pick in...but a 1st, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and 7th isn't all that bad

ok my bad sorry.

But as the recent past has shown I doubt we will have all of them either by next draft, but as Kiper said today we need to start getting some extrapicks soon to rebuild the yong cheap tier of our team

[flave1969]

Damn Giants just snapped up Issac Hilton. He was worth a try.

[redskinmwt]

Damn Giants just snapped up Issac Hilton. He was worth a try.

i guess gibbs doesn't check this site as much as we would like :)

where did hilton play anyway?