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smoot
06-03-2004, 05:56 PM
ive got a feeling im going to get eaten in half for even suggesting this, because i know how much all of you love coles, and trust me im right there with you, but do you think that we should consider trading him to the saints for darren howard and a draft pick or two?

once again please dont shoot me

josh90286
06-03-2004, 05:59 PM
bang

JoeJacksonTaylor28
06-03-2004, 06:00 PM
I won't yell my opinions just because you asked us to not shoot you.

I'll calm.... and say.... NO.

Even if he was a bad bad player, the dead cap would kill us. And that's the least important reason.

JoeJacksonTaylor28
06-03-2004, 06:01 PM
bang
Bang.

I couldn't resist it anymore. You're right.

akhhorus
06-03-2004, 06:03 PM
smoot, ive been aching to try out my new Glock...you just gave me an excuse.....

josh90286
06-03-2004, 06:05 PM
k maybe i should give an explanation...we are just going to have to wait until next years draft to pick up a dlineman we cant fix everythign in one year...u dont want to lose a receiver like coles...especially for a 28 year old defensive lineman. Given coles is only a year younger, Dlinemen have shorter career spans..Just be patient and next year we will pick up a DL in the 1st round..well we better lol

smoot
06-03-2004, 06:13 PM
is this the time i should go out and install bullettproof glass all around my house?

JoeJacksonTaylor28
06-03-2004, 06:13 PM
k maybe i should give an explanation...we are just going to have to wait until next years draft to pick up a dlineman we cant fix everythign in one year...u dont want to lose a receiver like coles...especially for a 28 year old defensive lineman. Given coles is only a year younger, Dlinemen have shorter career spans..Just be patient and next year we will pick up a DL in the 1st round..well we better lol
The only thing is that I don't know how good the #32 selection will be. :)

RedskinsVision
06-03-2004, 06:16 PM
ive got a feeling im going to get eaten in half for even suggesting this, because i know how much all of you love coles, and trust me im right there with you, but do you think that we should consider trading him to the saints for dwight howard and a draft pick or two?

once again please dont shoot me

first, it's Darren not Dwight.. that's a basketball player. second.. do u wanna get shot or a rehab at the mental institution? :) his rookie year he had 11 sacks.. then he became an avg. DE w/ 6, 8 & 5 the next 3 years. unless ur going to bring back Manley and Mann in their primes then NO.. don't be pursuaded by ur friend of the Saints.. he's trying to sell u property in the desert.

akhhorus
06-03-2004, 06:16 PM
is this the time i should go out and install bullettproof glass all around my house?

a vest, i dont have a rifle. Just three pistols and a shotgun

smoot
06-03-2004, 06:20 PM
ouch, too bad i cant afford some kevlar

josh90286
06-03-2004, 06:24 PM
The only thing is that I don't know how good the #32 selection will be. :)

Oh there are definately gems in the late first round ;) You just have to have an accomplished talent evaluator..oh yea we do now haha

akhhorus
06-03-2004, 06:28 PM
ouch, too bad i cant afford some kevlar

I doubt it would help anyways, my Glock is a .357. Oh well, run!

akhhorus
06-03-2004, 06:30 PM
and I would only even think about this trade if it was:

L. Coles
conditional pick
for
Darren Howard
Dante Stallworth
a high pick

and the Saints will not do it.

padraic
06-03-2004, 06:40 PM
In the words of K G "Im getting all my weapons ready, i got a few janks with silencers, and missel, knives, its war" but instead of taking it to the kings in game 7 im coming to your crib in N.C. :sfight: :)

josh90286
06-03-2004, 06:44 PM
you guys are gettin really worked up lol..i like hearin fresh ideas no matter how little the chances of them happening are *shrugs*

Axegrinder
06-03-2004, 06:48 PM
I'll give Smoot Three steps.
1-on your mark
2-get set
3-Aw heck,you're allright with me.Don't let it happen again and don't even think about Portis!

LadyNRedskinsfan
06-03-2004, 07:11 PM
ya know, im not really a violent person but........http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/2gunsfiring_v1.gif

redwolf1218
06-03-2004, 07:16 PM
coles reminds me of gary clark. however i see no reason to pump more lead into your already lifeless body. darnerian, coles and jacobs could be the next monk, clark and sanders in a couple of years.

akhhorus
06-03-2004, 08:19 PM
ya know, im not really a violent person but........http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/2gunsfiring_v1.gif

want to use one of my guns? (throws LadyNRedskinsfan his sig)

hail2skins
06-03-2004, 08:21 PM
Are you still standing smoot. I see our membership has taken care of this, so there's no need for me to react to it. Just don't let it happen again. :D

Keino
06-03-2004, 08:25 PM
:banhim:

akhhorus
06-03-2004, 08:29 PM
Are you still standing smoot. I see our membership has taken care of this, so there's no need for me to react to it. Just don't let it happen again. :D :lol1:

warpaint
06-03-2004, 08:40 PM
anyone seen my ak47

Axegrinder
06-03-2004, 08:45 PM
Smoot buddy,I'm here to defend you.All of these people are jumping you and I don't think that's right.
Oh shucks,I left something in the other room.Can you hold this until I get back?[pulls the pin and hastily leaves]

LATrueRedskin
06-03-2004, 09:00 PM
once again please dont shoot me

I'm gonna shoot you.

BandWagon
06-03-2004, 09:53 PM
I wouldn't trade any of our skill guys until we find out exactly how they'll prosper in the Gibbs system. Wouldn't you hate it, if Coles turns in a 100 reception season a la Monk, oops, oh yea, we got rid of him, gotta take those 100 back...sorry....

dj_stouty
06-03-2004, 10:34 PM
:drunker:

Even if we did trade Coles, we would swallow 5.5 Million in dead cap this year and next year.

And...If the NFLPA is correct, Darren Howard is expecting to receive a 6 million dollar salary this year. That is a contract we CAN'T take over, especially with Cole's dead cap hit.

I applaud your imagination, but that trade is not possible.

smoot
06-03-2004, 10:46 PM
Smoot buddy,I'm here to defend you.All of these people are jumping you and I don't think that's right.
Oh shucks,I left something in the other room.Can you hold this until I get back?[pulls the pin and hastily leaves]


you would stick a grenade in the coffin of a guy pretending to be dead? thats kinda harsh, oh well, i guess its time for me to go bunk up with osama

Axegrinder
06-03-2004, 11:03 PM
you would stick a grenade in the coffin of a guy pretending to be dead? thats kinda harsh, oh well, i guess its time for me to go bunk up with osama
Don't worry,it's your lucky day!!!
I didn't hear a boom,so it must have been a dummy grenade.

IowaSkinsFan
06-04-2004, 12:42 AM
ive got a feeling im going to get eaten in half for even suggesting this, because i know how much all of you love coles, and trust me im right there with you, but do you think that we should consider trading him to the saints for darren howard and a draft pick or two?

once again please dont shoot me

I won't shoot you, but I would like to give you a confidential 1 800 number to help you kick the drug habit you are currently afflicted with.

HanburgerBum
06-04-2004, 04:11 AM
Smoot, your proposal would not be a good trade for us. Aside from the dead money problem, Darren Howard wouldn't be available in the first place even for a pro bowl WR (Coles), if Howard were truly a standout DE. Howard is a starter, but not a star. A Pro Bowl DE in his prime is simply never available. Only reason Kearse was available is because Titans had a huge cap problem and Kearse is injury prone.

We would be trading a standout WR like Coles (1st round talent) for Howard (a 2nd round talent) simply because we have a bigger need at the DLine position. This would be the same as drafting a player simply because of need, even when that player's talent doesn't justify his being drafted that high. This is almost always a bad strategy.

smoot
06-04-2004, 02:14 PM
Don't worry,it's your lucky day!!!
I didn't hear a boom,so it must have been a dummy grenade.


you didnt hear the boom because i threw in the goldfish tank

PennSkinsFan
06-04-2004, 02:53 PM
smooot, my man, i am stunned at the topic of the thread. Trade Coles? are you #@!$ nut, what were you $$@#$@#@ thinking, where the #$%#%$#%$ did you come up with that #$@$%#$% idea! You are friggin #$$@##%#%
'

Ok, I feel better

akhhorus
06-04-2004, 02:55 PM
smooot, my man, i am stunned at the topic of the thread. Trade Coles? are you #@!$ nut, what were you $$@#$@#@ thinking, where the #$%#%$#%$ did you come up with that #$@$%#$% idea! You are friggin #$$@##%#%
'

Ok, I feel better

I still have plenty of guns to go around....

hail2skins
06-04-2004, 03:28 PM
smooot, my man, i am stunned at the topic of the thread. Trade Coles? are you #@!$ nut, what were you $$@#$@#@ thinking, where the #$%#%$#%$ did you come up with that #$@$%#$% idea! You are friggin #$$@##%#%
'
Ok, I feel better

The funny thing is I understood everything you wrote. Looks like one of your normal post to me pal. :D

smoak
06-04-2004, 03:41 PM
ya know, im not really a violent person but........http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/2gunsfiring_v1.gif

LMAO!

yeah, we'll have to sic jules and vincent on this guy...

garedskin
06-04-2004, 04:13 PM
ive got a feeling im going to get eaten in half for even suggesting this, because i know how much all of you love coles, and trust me im right there with you, but do you think that we should consider trading him to the saints for darren howard and a draft pick or two?

once again please dont shoot me

Not coles but I would be good with trading a draft pick for Howard. :Peace:

colkurtz
06-04-2004, 07:54 PM
Hmmmm, .................trade one of the most motivated, hard-working, fastest and, oh-by-the-way, BEST Redskins on this current team for ..... [I don't care who!].

Not sure I get this logic at all. The idea is to trade your 'past-their-prime', 'living on their reputation'; 'playing way below their salary' or just 'don't want to be here' players to another team for a player with all the qualities I listed [for Coles] above.

Coles is the quintessential Gibbs-type player who is ready to have a MONSTER season along with Portis and the rest of the WR corps. You want to get rid of him?

I have been an advocate for getting a real pass-rushing DE. But that time has past. We will live with what we have, see what these present DL players can do - properly coached (I have low expectation, believe me - with this group).

The true solution to our DL woes will come in the 2005 draft. We will have to wait to fill that hole then, unless we get lucky with one of the undrafteds.

Now please step away from your keyboard before you hurt someone...............

Axegrinder
06-04-2004, 09:45 PM
you didnt hear the boom because i threw in the goldfish tank
Quick Thinking Agent Smoot!

CowboyKilla
06-04-2004, 10:05 PM
No way, your lucky I have no bullets.

smoot
06-04-2004, 10:09 PM
better check and make sure there silver

PyroGenic
06-04-2004, 10:13 PM
I wouldnt trade coles for any other player other than moss... and I don't know why the vikings would so such a thing... so if we trade coles then i blame smoot :sfight:

smoot
06-04-2004, 11:34 PM
I wouldnt trade coles for any other player other than moss... and I don't know why the vikings would so such a thing... so if we trade coles then i blame smoot :sfight:

your a big fan of that smiley arent you?

PyroGenic
06-04-2004, 11:36 PM
indeed :sfight:

gives its flava ;)

smoot
06-04-2004, 11:38 PM
:Padawan: i got mine, lets go

PyroGenic
06-04-2004, 11:42 PM
im so gonna kick that glow stick's ass :sfight:
:)

JoeJacksonTaylor28
06-05-2004, 04:02 AM
I just wanted to thank smoot for this thread. I know it's ridiculous, but it made me laugh.

Now, if somebody of the coaching staff read your opinion, thought it was a good option, and coles gets traded..... everything you have read will come true. Have no doubts about it. :)