ESPN NFL 2K5...$19.99

[bfauble83]

I just read on Gamespot.com that ESPN NFL 2k5 will debut at $19.99...I don't have a link, its on the main page of Gamespot...It seems very odd to me that they would do that, I"m still going with Madden though.

[smoot]

yeah, great price but im still getting madden

[rskinsfan10]

If true, all the more reason to stick to my anti-Madden guns and buy ESPN only this year.

[smoot]

If true, all the more reason to stick to my anti-Madden guns and buy ESPN only this year.

id call you a fool for saying that, but youve dominated all those riddle threads so ill pass on it

[GolfFreak]

Wow, wonder if the quality goes with the price.

[PyroGenic]

the espn game looks pretty good.... you can go look at a trailer of it at www.gametrailers.com .... you'll probably want a broadband connection to check it out though, the file sizes are pretty big. They're doing an exclusive thing on TO right now, hopefullly it's just buildup to see him get smacked around by Sean Taylor :)

[LATrueRedskin]

Yeah its true the game will be 19.99, but to me that game is no where near Madden.

[rskinsfan10]

Yeah its true the game will be 19.99, but to me that game is no where near Madden.
You're right about that.

It's much better then Madden.

[LATrueRedskin]

You're right about that.

It's much better then Madden.

:lol1: Set myself up for that one. To each his own i guess.

[RedskinRyan]

espn is doing some pretty amazing things this year, but im still going with madden. madden is doing the same, and the gameplay is much better to me. although i may be inclined to get both......

[TexSkin]

Guys its a very smart marketing move. The new Espn game is loaded with all kins of good features that might put it over the top of Madden which by now is just dishing out the same game but lemmings like me will buy it anyway for the new rosters and of course Gibbs. Espn needs to break that cycle by making a better product and selling it cheap so you will try it out. Once they got you they hope to keep you like the Madden faithful. Heck I bet they hope they steal away some of the Maddenites like me. Time will tell.

[Skinsfan1906]

Wow, wonder if the quality goes with the price.

Exactly!!!

[GolfFreak]

For $20 I may buy it if it's as good as last years.

[IndianBaller27]

kool... i'll still get madden but later i will end up getting espn football2k5.... cuz i have madden 04 and espn football 04




THIS IS MY 500th POST!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!

[ScalpinSteve]

ESPN rules. Madden is tired.

[PyroGenic]

Guys its a very smart marketing move. The new Espn game is loaded with all kins of good features that might put it over the top of Madden which by now is just dishing out the same game but lemmings like me will buy it anyway for the new rosters and of course Gibbs. Espn needs to break that cycle by making a better product and selling it cheap so you will try it out. Once they got you they hope to keep you like the Madden faithful. Heck I bet they hope they steal away some of the Maddenites like me. Time will tell.

they're overhauling the franchise/owner mode, you can read about it www.gamespot.com

[funnyperson1]

If this is coming out for PC I will definately but it for 20 bucks because I like to support companies that sell games at prices that aren't ludicrous.

Thats why I always made a point to buy the Croteam Serious Sam games, you gotta support a company that doesn't rip off the consumer. Those were amazing games for the money. The graphics engine technoloy looked beautiful and still allowed up to thousands of enemies on screen at a time even on a mediocre computer. (Check them out, I got SS2 for 5 bucks at CompUSA).

If its PS2 only then I will consult with my roommate for next year who will be bringing the PS2 to see if we should try this before we shell out 50 bucks for Madden 05.

[Death_Venom]

I believe it will be comig out on XBOX & PS2.......Doubtful it will be out on PC until much later...........

[truant]

ESPN and Madden are closer than the sales would have you think. Personally I like the ESPN game far better and this marketing strategy is actually quite brilliant and not indicitive of the quality.

Just wait for the reviews. On plenty of sites ESPN was a better rated game than Madden last year... they think it'll happen again.

[joethefan]

My best freind a cowboy fan told me about this but "Why would I listen to him..but now that i get this report from the Skins faithful..I guess it's worth checking it out......I'll still get madden but for $20.00 That's a steal on principle cost alone.....

[dj_stouty]

My best freind a cowboy fan told me about this but "Why would I listen to him..but now that i get this report from the Skins faithful..I guess it's worth checking it out......I'll still get madden but for $20.00 That's a steal on principle cost alone.....

Hell...I'll try it for 20 bucks...

But I'll still happily shell out 50 bones for Madden '05!

[smoak]

madden is a classic that nobody has touched yet...

but i will try espn and go with the better of the two.

[Death_Venom]

madden is a classic that nobody has touched yet...

...............right......................... :rolleyes:

NEXT!!!!!!!!!! :Peace:

[LavarEatsBabies]

If you have an xbox, ESPN is the better choice because better graphics. They're almost lifelike, I've read. Anywho, the Skins had better kick ass in both games this year.

[LavarEatsBabies]

On the topic of greatest football series ever, you're all wrong. The true football game champion is NFL BLITZ!!!

[PyroGenic]

On the topic of greatest football series ever, you're all wrong. The true football game champion is NFL BLITZ!!!


they got sued by the NFL because it was pro- im gonna body slam this dude and showoff a lot. remember, NFL = No Fun League

[rskinsfan10]

The critics have spoken:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6098994/p-16.html

[PyroGenic]

dont get me wrong im a Madden fan but im psyched about this game, as soon as I wake up im doing my morning mile jog over to Best Buy so I can buy it and play it as soon as i can :)

[CarMike]

Whats the release date for ESPN?

[too lazy to look for myself]

[rskinsfan10]

Whats the release date for ESPN?

[too lazy to look for myself]

I think it's today, but I'm not sure. I have a co-worker that owes me favor, so to settle up he offered to buy it for me. I thought he told me last week that it would be out today.

[LATrueRedskin]

I'm gonna try this game out since you guys are raving about it, and I need some kind of football fix. And now that I have Xbox, I'll see how football games are on it.

[LATrueRedskin]

Here's a cool pic I found while researching the game. It's Taylor-on-Winslow. Can't wait to see it in real life.
http://media.xbox.gamespy.com/media/674/674666/img_2193531.html

[PyroGenic]

i thought it was supposed to come out today and i even saw a commercial for it but the best buy people said that they were gonna get it on the 26th.... whats up with that?

[Death_Venom]

Well, I just pre-ordered my copy, and the peeps down at Electronics Boutique said it will out on Thursday. That is said to the be the current "official" release date........ :Pickle:

[¤Smooooot¤]

I heard the game is great and only 20 bucks!!! U cant beat that. I just affraid it will drag me away from madden.

[CarMike]

I went to a local Wal-Mart this morning and they didn't have it. The lady said that they should have received them yesturday.

She said to check back this weekend....

[Carmelo]

Yeah its true the game will be 19.99, but to me that game is no where near Madden.

how do you know if the game isn't out and you haven't tried it. I've been playing madden since it came out and I'm SICK of people who say it's better without EVER TRYING THE NEXT GAME. Until you've played espn THIS YEAR then don't say it's better. please

[Carmelo]

I went to a local Wal-Mart this morning and they didn't have it. The lady said that they should have received them yesturday.

She said to check back this weekend....

I went to EB yesterday and they had a bunch of folks waiting. They said there shipment comes in today and I could pick it up after work. I even went ahead and paid for it. I'll let you know if I get it and how it is if I do

[PyroGenic]

how do you know if the game isn't out and you haven't tried it. I've been playing madden since it came out and I'm SICK of people who say it's better without EVER TRYING THE NEXT GAME. Until you've played espn THIS YEAR then don't say it's better. please

well it's definitely better than those 989 sports games...

[CarMike]

I went to EB yesterday and they had a bunch of folks waiting. They said there shipment comes in today and I could pick it up after work. I even went ahead and paid for it. I'll let you know if I get it and how it is if I do

I'd appreciate it Carmello!

For a second I was excited. I saw a box reading, "ESPN" but below it it said Baseball. And it had Jeters mug on the cover. Its pretty funny how your emotions can change so quick. :D

[PyroGenic]

I'd appreciate it Carmello!

For a second I was excited. I saw a box reading, "ESPN" but below it it said Baseball. And it had Jeters mug on the cover. Its pretty funny how your emotions can change so quick. :D

lol yeah, samething happened to me. Then I saw another one but it was like track and field or something, so disapointing

[LATrueRedskin]

how do you know if the game isn't out and you haven't tried it. I've been playing madden since it came out and I'm SICK of people who say it's better without EVER TRYING THE NEXT GAME. Until you've played espn THIS YEAR then don't say it's better. please

I meant from last year. I played both last year and Madden blew it away.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

how do you know if the game isn't out and you haven't tried it.
ive got it and its not better than madden. all you madden fans should stick to your guns.....

[Ramsey2Moss]

i might get it for like 10 bucks after a trade-in. my friend says its cool.

[CarMike]

The reviews I've read so far aren't very good. I may rent it first and perhaps save myself 20 bucks....

I appreciate other peoples opinions. But at the same time I like to make my own judgements on games. They're like movies. Someone may not like a movie but I'll really enjoy it.

You just never know...

[PyroGenic]

The reviews I've read so far aren't very good. I may rent it first and perhaps save myself 20 bucks....

I appreciate other peoples opinions. But at the same time I like to make my own judgements on games. They're like movies. Someone may not like a movie but I'll really enjoy it.

You just never know...

where did you read these bad reviews? ive seen nothing but good...
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/sports/espnnflfootball2005/review.html

[PyroGenic]

ive got it and its not better than madden. all you madden fans should stick to your guns.....

whats wrong with it?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

whats wrong with it?
like i said before, it looks great. the extras are fun like the espn 25th anniversary feature, first person mode, etc. i like espn feel to it, because it reminds me of highlights shows and such but i just like the way madden plays. i cant explain it. the players feel like robots to me. the game feels like its playing slow. i play mine on a ps2 and people say that the game is made for the x-box, and that may be true, but im sure it plays the same way. i wouldnt say dont go and get it, but im sure that the die hard madden fans will stick with madden once it comes out.

[Carmelo]

like i said before, it looks great. the extras are fun like the espn 25th anniversary feature, first person mode, etc. i like espn feel to it, because it reminds me of highlights shows and such but i just like the way madden plays. i cant explain it. the players feel like robots to me. the game feels like its playing slow. i play mine on a ps2 and people say that the game is made for the x-box, and that may be true, but im sure it plays the same way. i wouldnt say dont go and get it, but im sure that the die hard madden fans will stick with madden once it comes out.

I have to admit that although I'm a madden fan..... I LIKE BOTH GAMES! is that possible? I think I like ESPN on an overall scale a lot! But.. yes but, there are things that madden has that this is missing. For instance. I can't look at the players names when I'm on defense. Meaning I can't tell which side T.O. is lined up on. I can zoom out but I can't tell who is who. I think those who love madden won't even take the time to even get used to the game.
Lady, I think that the problems you're having just come from being used to the very small details from the controls in madden that you're used to. Play it a while and see if it improves. Also, you can change the speed of the game to a faster setting. See how that works.
I will get and keep both games. The presentation in ESPN is better than anything madden could dream of. The halftime show?? nuff said! I would have bought it, although hesitently, for $50 but for $20 it's was bought without thought.

So let me get this straight Lady. You love the redskins! You play football video games. Can I marry you? If you're already taken we can get rid of the other guy. :) I'm great with kids. You can be my little Sha-women! j/k :lol1:

[PyroGenic]

another plus to madden is that you can import a draft class from NCAA 2005... cuz i know some of you guys already bought it. Just thought i'd mention that since we're talking about the pluses and minuses of both games.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

I have to admit that although I'm a madden fan..... I LIKE BOTH GAMES! is that possible? I think I like ESPN on an overall scale a lot! But.. yes but, there are things that madden has that this is missing. For instance. I can't look at the players names when I'm on defense. Meaning I can't tell which side T.O. is lined up on. I can zoom out but I can't tell who is who. I think those who love madden won't even take the time to even get used to the game.
Lady, I think that the problems you're having just come from being used to the very small details from the controls in madden that you're used to. Play it a while and see if it improves. Also, you can change the speed of the game to a faster setting. See how that works.
I will get and keep both games. The presentation in ESPN is better than anything madden could dream of. The halftime show?? nuff said! I would have bought it, although hesitently, for $50 but for $20 it's was bought without thought.

So let me get this straight Lady. You love the redskins! You play football video games. Can I marry you? If you're already taken we can get rid of the other guy. :) I'm great with kids. You can be my little Sha-women! j/k :lol1:
i think you are right. i have been playing madden forever and im just used to it. for example, i played a game of ESPN against my brother (who is also a madden fan and didnt really like ESPN either) and then we played madden and it messed me all up. i guess i was getting used to the controls in ESPN and it carried over to madden. i did change the speed, but it still felt like the players moved like robots. im not going to give up on it and im not to pressed because i only paid 20 bucks! i do, however, have madden reserved!

LOL carmelo.....are you proposing??
yes, i love the redskins. yes, i play football video games. (i can cook too!) no, there is no other guy, but i have a question for you.....do you leave the toliet seat up?? LOL......

[Carmelo]

i think you are right. i have been playing madden forever and im just used to it. for example, i played a game of ESPN against my brother (who is also a madden fan and didnt really like ESPN either) and then we played madden and it messed me all up. i guess i was getting used to the controls in ESPN and it carried over to madden. i did change the speed, but it still felt like the players moved like robots. im not going to give up on it and im not to pressed because i only paid 20 bucks! i do, however, have madden reserved!

LOL carmelo.....are you proposing??
yes, i love the redskins. yes, i play football video games. (i can cook too!) no, there is no other guy, but i have a question for you.....do you leave the toliet seat up?? LOL......

Yes I am proposing... :) and I must admit that I do leave the toilet seat up... I live by myself so no rules... but I'm trainable :) I can learn to put the toilet seat down in exchange for someone to watch the game with who doesn't constantly ask, "why is the runner guy running that way? what did the thrower guy do that for?" Life is all about the comprimise.

And to actually comment on the topic, I figured out that I can look at my players names and assignments on defense by pressing the black and white buttons. Oh, and you're definitely missing out on the half time show if you're playing on playstation. At the end of the game on xbox you can also replay EVERY SINGLE PLAY from the start of the game to the end. Chris gives a nice half time speech including replays of the big plays, turnovers, and touchdowns.
The only thing I don't like so far is that I haven't figured out how to use my custimized playbook online as a part of my vip with all audibles set and so forth. I like to hand pick my plays. I still suck at this game. On the other hand I was great, or at least good, at madden. I think that's why most people won't play this. Because madden is already instinctual. I don't think, although now I will, I just play.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Yes I am proposing... :) and I must admit that I do leave the toilet seat up... I live by myself so no rules... but I'm trainable :) I can learn to put the toilet seat down in exchange for someone to watch the game with who doesn't constantly ask, "why is the runner guy running that way? what did the thrower guy do that for?" Life is all about the comprimise.
lol. you definitely wouldnt have to worry about that!

And to actually comment on the topic, I figured out that I can look at my players names and assignments on defense by pressing the black and white buttons. Oh, and you're definitely missing out on the half time show if you're playing on playstation. At the end of the game on xbox you can also replay EVERY SINGLE PLAY from the start of the game to the end. Chris gives a nice half time speech including replays of the big plays, turnovers, and touchdowns.
The only thing I don't like so far is that I haven't figured out how to use my custimized playbook online as a part of my vip with all audibles set and so forth. I like to hand pick my plays. I still suck at this game. On the other hand I was great, or at least good, at madden. I think that's why most people won't play this. Because madden is already instinctual. I don't think, although now I will, I just play.
that sounds pretty cool. about the customized playbook, i dont think you can use it online. im not absolutely sure because i dont have an x-box or play online, but ive read that you cant. keep trying though. like i said, i wont give up on ESPN.......at least until madden comes out. lol

[Carmelo]

like i said, i wont give up on ESPN.......at least until madden comes out. lol

Exactly. at least until madden comes out!

[Ramsey2Moss]

This game is only going to hold me over for another week or two before I get Madden 05, but I still want it.

[IndianBaller27]

I have to admit that although I'm a madden fan..... I LIKE BOTH GAMES! is that possible? I think I like ESPN on an overall scale a lot! But.. yes but, there are things that madden has that this is missing. For instance. I can't look at the players names when I'm on defense. Meaning I can't tell which side T.O. is lined up on. I can zoom out but I can't tell who is who. I think those who love madden won't even take the time to even get used to the game.
Lady, I think that the problems you're having just come from being used to the very small details from the controls in madden that you're used to. Play it a while and see if it improves. Also, you can change the speed of the game to a faster setting. See how that works.
I will get and keep both games. The presentation in ESPN is better than anything madden could dream of. The halftime show?? nuff said! I would have bought it, although hesitently, for $50 but for $20 it's was bought without thought.

So let me get this straight Lady. You love the redskins! You play football video games. Can I marry you? If you're already taken we can get rid of the other guy. :) I'm great with kids. You can be my little Sha-women! j/k :lol1:
You like ESPN 2k5 and MAdden '04 equally. Cuz you haven't even played Madden '05 yet! It is gonna be jam-packed with extra features! As you can see I am a die hard Madden fan.

[dj_stouty]

I just bought 2K5 and I have to admit that it is an EXCELLENT game. I'm still not used to the actual on-the-field gameplay, but everything else is top notch.

I'm still getting Madden '05 when it comes out, but 2K5 could easily be a contender for my favorite game this year.

[Carmelo]

You like ESPN 2k5 and MAdden '04 equally. Cuz you haven't even played Madden '05 yet! It is gonna be jam-packed with extra features! As you can see I am a die hard Madden fan.


and i'll try madden 05. I will be better at madden. I've owned every madden every year since there was a madden. Like i said, it's instinctual and I like it. But if espn is a better game I'll admit it.

[smoak]

I just bought 2K5 and I have to admit that it is an EXCELLENT game. I'm still not used to the actual on-the-field gameplay, but everything else is top notch.

I'm still getting Madden '05 when it comes out, but 2K5 could easily be a contender for my favorite game this year.

how did you get it before the release date?

[hail2skins]

Got mine today

[RedskinsVision]

i've had the game a week now and i must admit this is the best football game i've played thus far.. i have the PS2 and thought this game would not be as good as it could be but i've been thoroughly impressed by almost everything. i throw too many INT's but i'm just now getting used to passing.. and running is great.. it's the most realistic i've seen. still getting used to the defensive controls cuz i've been too used to Madden's.. but all in all great game for only $20.

[truant]

I've had the game for a week now and I love it. There is an adjustment period, but once you get used to the physics and more realistic gameplay (having to follow your blockers, waiting for them to set their blocks) it's a blast.

I was throwing INT's like a madman too!! I'm being a little more wary of throwing the ball in a hurry to avoid a sack, so that's helping a little. I suppose the trick is to put a WR in motion and see if they are in zone or man. I get picked off all the time in zone.

All in all i think it's the best football game i've played. It's a bit easy on Pro so you'll have to bump it up to All-pro soon once you get used to it.

[dj_stouty]

how did you get it before the release date?

I got it after the release date.

[smoak]

I got it after the release date.

i picked it up last night and so far i am not loving it like i do madden... but maybe it will grow on me. i really hate when games waste time programming "extras" that have nothing to do with football (i.e. the cribs feature)... i just wish they would put all their energy into making the football as great as possible...

here is a little tidbit of information - when madden is released, you can trade in the game for $10 at EB.

[smoak]

i only played one game but here are my thought so far --

likes:
arrington is in the game!!!
the running and tackle animations are great
the between-play animations are much better than madden
half time and post game are good
i LOVE the espn look to the game

dislikes:
you do not have control of the substitions like in madden (i couldn't put arrington at DE in dime coverage) -- this is a big one for me
it plays a little slow and is difficult to get used to (this may be just b/c i am used to madden)
the play by play guy are awful (why not the sunday night crew?)
you can't look at just your team's stats
the animation for receiving are goofy -- on kickoffs and punts the returners often does a torso twist to catch a simple kick
passing is difficult and running is too easy (on pro) -- maybe i just need experience

[smoak]

can someone explain to me why no game has ever had the marching band strike up "hail to the redskins" when the skins score a home TD!??

although breman sang the opening line in the pre game which was cool...

[Carmelo]

can someone explain to me why no game has ever had the marching band strike up "hail to the redskins" when the skins score a home TD!??

although breman sang the opening line in the pre game which was cool...

Yeah, berman also made note about our fans. He said that we've had sellouts for the past so and so seasons even with loosing records. Then he said something about how that means are fans are great or something or another. I thought it was cool.

It makes since they would sing Hail to the skins when we score. Not sure why it's never been included in a game.

[smoak]

as stupid as this sounds, i'd pay $100 for madden if they just added that and a few other enhancements.

[RedskinsVision]

dislikes:
you do not have control of the substitions like in madden (i couldn't put arrington at DE in dime coverage) -- this is a big one for me
it plays a little slow and is difficult to get used to (this may be just b/c i am used to madden)
the play by play guy are awful (why not the sunday night crew?)
you can't look at just your team's stats
the animation for receiving are goofy -- on kickoffs and punts the returners often does a torso twist to catch a simple kick
passing is difficult and running is too easy (on pro) -- maybe i just need experience

there definitely are some quirks to the game.. and some added features they could've done w/ out in order to make the overall gameplay better..

-u can substitute Arrington in as DE in dime coverage because i have it exactly like that.. i substitued Daniels for Arrington and Washington for Upshaw in dime coverage and so far in 4 games Arrington has 12 sacks.. and my slider is on to be between the Pro and All Pro level.
-the lead play by play guy is awful.. he sounds like an old whiner.. more like a golf or baseball announcer than a football guy.
-during and after the games i wish u could look at ur own team's stats instead of both as well.. and in ESPN.com as well.. but your VIP have all ur stats in there so that's a good tool for ur team's stats.
-the receiving and running are great but i agree that the special teams play is off.. ur blockers keep running towards u even when u catch the ball and doesn't turn around fast enough. but that's special teams and i don't like anyone returning every punt/kickoff for a TD so that's a glitch i don't mind.
-and yes passing is a bit difficult for me too.. i throw way too many INT's.. i'm still trying to get to get used to Maximum passing.. the comp. secondary AI is really good and running is easier.. but Pro setting is way too easy.. use All Pro.

[LATrueRedskin]

I've had the game for a week now and I love it. There is an adjustment period, but once you get used to the physics and more realistic gameplay (having to follow your blockers, waiting for them to set their blocks) it's a blast.

I was throwing INT's like a madman too!! I'm being a little more wary of throwing the ball in a hurry to avoid a sack, so that's helping a little. I suppose the trick is to put a WR in motion and see if they are in zone or man. I get picked off all the time in zone.

All in all i think it's the best football game i've played. It's a bit easy on Pro so you'll have to bump it up to All-pro soon once you get used to it.

Yeah I was throwing tons of interceptions too. You just gotta wait for the reciever to run his route, and watch the safeties when throwing deep. Use slants in a zone.

[smoak]

i've had the game a week now and i must admit this is the best football game i've played thus far.. i have the PS2 and thought this game would not be as good as it could be but i've been thoroughly impressed by almost everything. i throw too many INT's but i'm just now getting used to passing.. and running is great.. it's the most realistic i've seen. still getting used to the defensive controls cuz i've been too used to Madden's.. but all in all great game for only $20.

i think the fact that i am a die hard madden guy is throwing me off as well...

i'm also guessing the $20 is a one year thing to win over guys like me. i liked it and i am planning for a little more experimenting tonight.

[smoak]

Yeah I was throwing tons of interceptions too. You just gotta wait for the reciever to run his route, and watch the safeties when throwing deep. Use slants in a zone.

LOL! guess i have to quit depending on that unstopable "madden fade route" that you can catch in major traffic.

sean taylor had a nice pick for me last night. i dove at the WR to make a big hit and taylor grabbed the ball in mid air! it was cool!

one HUGE complaint is that the skins are rated VERY low (in the low 80's overall)... i guess they have to base it off last season somewhat, but that really hurt. i have some minor editing to do later.

[LATrueRedskin]

LOL! guess i have to quit depending on that unstopable "madden fade route" that you can catch in major traffic.

sean taylor had a nice pick for me last night. i dove at the WR to make a big hit and taylor grabbed the ball in mid air! it was cool!

one HUGE complaint is that the skins are rated VERY low (in the low 80's overall)... i guess they have to base it off last season somewhat, but that really hurt. i have some minor editing to do later.

Yeah the Skins are good in this game. That fade route works sometimes in 2k5, but you'll get picked off a lot easier in this game than in Madden. I think all of us Madden guys are throwing more interceptions because the passing is a little slower in this game. I'm still getting used to it and I've played a bunch of games.

[smoak]

there definitely are some quirks to the game.. and some added features they could've done w/ out in order to make the overall gameplay better..

i'm planning to play a game tonight so hopefully i start getting better.

-u can substitute Arrington in as DE in dime coverage because i have it exactly like that.. i substitued Daniels for Arrington and Washington for Upshaw in dime coverage and so far in 4 games Arrington has 12 sacks.. and my slider is on to be between the Pro and All Pro level.

that is a must for me. if teams do something in real life, i want to be able to do it in the game!!

-the lead play by play guy is awful.. he sounds like an old whiner.. more like a golf or baseball announcer than a football guy.

i really didn't care for them, but i'll pay more attention to the color guy to listen for differences... are they real football guys??? i have never heard of them... joe t. and the sunday crew would have been great!

-during and after the games i wish u could look at ur own team's stats instead of both as well.. and in ESPN.com as well.. but your VIP have all ur stats in there so that's a good tool for ur team's stats.

i'll have to try that... thanks!

-the receiving and running are great but i agree that the special teams play is off.. ur blockers keep running towards u even when u catch the ball and doesn't turn around fast enough. but that's special teams and i don't like anyone returning every punt/kickoff for a TD so that's a glitch i don't mind.

yeah, i had average returns so this wasn't a major complaint. i just noticed that it looked a little goofy that the guy didn't field the ball cleanly most of the time. on one of my kickoffs the guy did a twisting move like a WR trying to make a catch and stay in bounds??? odd...

-and yes passing is a bit difficult for me too.. i throw way too many INT's.. i'm still trying to get to get used to Maximum passing.. the comp. secondary AI is really good and running is easier.. but Pro setting is way too easy.. use All Pro.

i'll play with the slider and i'm sure it will get easier the more i play.