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CarMike
06-18-2004, 05:53 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040616/capt.dtp12706160254.nba_finals_dtp127.jpg
tommahawk
06-18-2004, 06:25 PM
Jackson ponders retirement, as Kobie fondles a female fan under the net.
RedskinsVision
06-18-2004, 06:42 PM
Phil Jackson wonders if it's the oysters he had for dinner or his team's play which is causing his nauseousness.
LATrueRedskin
06-18-2004, 06:47 PM
L.A. Lakers coach Phil Jackson's hand attempts to suffocate him in the third quarter of game 3 of the NBA Finals. Jackson was taken to the hospital after the game and his hand is currently in custody of the LAPD.
Axegrinder
06-18-2004, 08:02 PM
I've seen this look only one other time....when the Harlem Globetrotters lost!
The BadBoys stole my zen!!!
RedskinsDave
06-18-2004, 08:10 PM
Garcia told me not to drink the bong water.
Axegrinder
06-18-2004, 08:14 PM
Garcia told me not to drink the bong water.
I like this one!
padraic
06-18-2004, 08:35 PM
After color blindness wares off he relizes he is wareing purple.
Axegrinder
06-18-2004, 09:57 PM
After color blindness wares off he relizes he is wareing purple.
No offense,but that's lavender.:D
straightupbeast
06-18-2004, 10:43 PM
After finally realizing the NBA is boring, Phil Jackson covers his mouth while yawning.
LATrueRedskin
06-18-2004, 10:44 PM
After finally realizing the NBA is boring, Phil Jackson covers his mouth while yawning.

I like that one :lol1:
BigCountry
06-19-2004, 05:31 AM
Coach Phil Jackson ponders his hall of fame speech, while wondering if anyone will really come close to being as great as he was/is.

OR

"I hope the Wizards don't call me"
CarMike
06-19-2004, 07:43 AM
Man, if it weren't for coaching Michael Jordan/Scottie Pippen and Shaq/Kobe...I wouldn't have a damn thing...
BigCountry
06-19-2004, 08:10 AM
Ok fine come up with that excuse. How many coaches have coached great teams and haven't won one title, let alone 9. That notion is rediculous.
IndianBaller27
06-19-2004, 09:24 AM
Phil Jackson starts to feel nautious after Kobe Bryant passed the ball.
CarMike
06-19-2004, 09:25 AM
:D

If Phil is such a great coach, and not a coach who rode the coat tails of his players, why doesn't he prove it by taking over the Wizzards, Hawks, Bobcats, Celtics, Golden State, Heat?....
Axegrinder
06-19-2004, 09:44 AM
:D

If Phil is such a great coach, and not a coach who rode the coat tails of his players, why doesn't he prove it by taking over the Wizzards, Hawks, Bobcats, Celtics, Golden State, Heat?....
Or how about UNC!:D
BigCountry
06-19-2004, 09:58 AM
Did Chicago or the Lakers do anything with their squads before Phil took over? Seriously now this isn't even an argument.
CarMike
06-19-2004, 11:31 AM
Or how about UNC!:D

Ouch! :D
BigCountry
06-19-2004, 11:34 AM
Yeah I didn't think so...
CarMike
06-19-2004, 12:24 PM
Did Chicago or the Lakers do anything with their squads before Phil took over? Seriously now this isn't even an argument.

Yeah I didn't think so...

Don't think to much of your argument too fast....Since I'm not a NBA fan like yourself...I had to some research.

About your lakers...Jackson went to LA in 99-00. So I went back to the '93-'94 season where the lakers went 33-49. Here's the records for the lakers from '93-'94 to '98-'99...

'98-'99...31-19 *Lockout year
'97-'98...61-21
'96-'97...56-26 *Shaqs arrival
'95-'96...53-29
'94-'95...48-34
'93-'94...33-49
Total #s

Won-282
Loss-178
W %-.610

Thats prior to Jacksons arrival in LA... Not to shabby if you ask me.

And yes...during those years LA didn't win a Championship. Did Jackson help them? Yes. He did. But my whole argument is this. Why did he take the LA job after taking a year off? Because LA already had Shaq and Kobe. Other teams offered his HC job, but he turned them down. Why?

Just like rskinsfan10 said...he doesn't like to rebuild. And he can't win a championship without having the best players in the league.

I'm sure you'll find another argument...which is all good. Thats what you should do when you're a fan of a team. And its all good.

I can appreciate your loyalty to the Lakers. I probably sound the same way when I'm defending the Redskins to others....
IowaSkinsFan
06-19-2004, 03:10 PM
"How is Big Country going to spin this?"
frankez99
06-19-2004, 04:29 PM
"How is Big Country going to spin this?"

Let me go first! I bet 500 dollars it will be either:

A. The bullets/wizards suck
B. The Lakers are the best and always will be so don't be jealous
BigCountry
06-19-2004, 05:46 PM
Only reason I bash the Wizards is people that live in bottom of the eastern conferance houses shouldn't throw basketballs, but that's besides the point. I don't really care what the Lakers did in the regular season since I kept waking up 4 am to watch them get swept in the playoffs, so that has about as much meaning as an argument about Phil Jackson being one of the greatest ever but if you wanna drag it on with a bunch of stats, it's your free time not mine. I'm talking about winning championships, which is pretty much the basic plot, and you don't have to follow the NBA to get that.

BTW I"m repeating myself and all of your posts about the Lakers don't all sound the same right?
CarMike
06-19-2004, 06:43 PM
What ever BC....I was going to leave this topic alone after Axe said that about UNC and Jackson. But you had to make a comeback after I didn't respond to your post. So I go do some research and you still want to keep this going.

I showed that you were wrong. You made no mention about championships...but in your last post thats what you're talking about. I'm thru.

OMT, I'm surprised you have been willing to debate this matter. Last year during college football, after a Hokies lost, you were no where to be found for a week or so. Big improvement....
BigCountry
06-20-2004, 01:16 AM
I've been following the Lakers since I was 11. You really think I didn't know that they had some good regular seasons? Even if I wasn't, the fact that Phil Jackson is a great coach isn't one you can argue with valid points, but I appriciate the effort.
RedskinsDave
06-20-2004, 12:46 PM
I bet before he went to the Lakers, Lakers fans were saying he rode Jordan and Pippen's ride. Now he's a genius. It's too bad only real fans know that the triangle is Tex Winter's creation and not the zen tool.
BigCountry
06-20-2004, 05:00 PM
Yeah and Joe Gibbs patterned his system based on Don Coryel's, but he doesn't coach a team everyone dislikes so (rightfully so) nobody will question his greatness.

So what if some Laker fans said he rode Jordan? Some Wizards fans probably said Rip and Ben Wallace weren't that good. Means nothing.
RedskinsDave
06-20-2004, 10:33 PM
No, you proved my point further. Joe Gibbs was the designer of "Air Coryell". If you're questioning who created the triangle then you don't know about it.
BigCountry
06-21-2004, 04:03 AM
Ok Jon Gruden, Mike Holgrem, Mike Shannahan. Bad coaches cause they didn't invent the system they're using? It's a really bad argument.
Minnesota Mike
06-21-2004, 10:52 AM
Phil Jackson coughs up the missing bottom button of his jacket.


But seriously, in all this talk of "Is Phil Jackson a great coach" lets please try to avoid any discussion what-so-ever about what a great player Scottie Pippen was. Because he wasn't.
Skins57
06-21-2004, 01:22 PM
Oh my, Shaq just farted

Jackson is a good coach but until I see him take a job where the team is not already built for him, I can not raise him up tot he next level. Larry Brown just took a team that not many people believe could beat LA nad destroyed them. (myself included)
CarMike
06-22-2004, 04:27 PM
Oh my, Shaq just farted

Jackson is a good coach but until I see him take a job where the team is not already built for him, I can not raise him up tot he next level. Larry Brown just took a team that not many people believe could beat LA nad destroyed them. (myself included)


EXACTLY!!!!!!

Very well said Jeff! Thats was my whole point to start with.