Coach K to the Lakers???

[nyjunc]

First he realizes he has no talent in 1995 and his back mysteriously goes out and he steps aside for the year letting his longtime loyal assistant Pete gaudet take all the heat and now he realizes the talent is much thinner(though nothing close to '95) and he may be leaving for the Los Angeles Lakers. Anyway, the link below is from the official duke site:

http://goduke.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/070104aaa.html

[suppitty]

ESPN.com is reporting that Coach K is in "serious discussions" with the Lakers about the head coaching vacancy. This would be great. Kill 2 birds with one stone. Lakers will suffer from the steve spurrier of basketball and duke will be mediocre like ufa has been since spurrier left. sorry about not getting a link but its on the espn.com homepage in the breaking news section.

[suppitty]

sorry didn't see the thread in the college forum.

[padraic]

Dude im no duke fan but your conspiracy is very thin, it did make me laugh, spoken like a true tarheel. I have always thought Coach K was a good guy kind of to himself but cool, i do not know how he will do in L.A. this is the last thing i would have thought could happen and it has Old Ball coach writen all over it.

[nyjunc]

It's not a coincidence that he is seriously entertaining this offer when he knows he has his least talented team in about a decade. If Deng & livingston showed up on campus I guarantee you K would have never thought about LA for a second but he bailed on duke in '95 and he's getting ready to do it again.

[LATrueRedskin]

Can't really hate on Coach K, he's been doing it for decades (I'm a Terps fan). But I don't really like college coaches going pro, it just never works. For LA's though, I'd welcome it.

[SkinsKY]

Well, It'd put a coach I hate on a team I hate replacing another coach I hate. Sounds great to me.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i hope he goes. i think coach K in the NBA would be the equivalent of spurrier in the NFL. he is a college coach. plus, all of his players stink when they get to the pros.

[IndianBaller27]

There is another thread like this in the college sports forum... But yeah I just found out earlier today when I was watchin sportscenter

[IndianBaller27]

whoops... I'm late... I didn't read that last post

[IndianBaller27]

That has a nice ring to it.. Coach "K" to LA

[rskinsfan10]

Merged and moved.

[smoot]

i saw this, if he accepts duke will suck and have nobody worth keeping(reddick can go cry to his mommy) Go Terps

[GolfFreak]

You all really think Duke will suck next year w/o Coach K? I think they are still very talented and would be contenders in the ACC regardless. I'm a Terps fan, but I don't see it as a cake walk w/o Coach K.

[Minnesota Mike]

I don't like Mike K and I don't like LA. So it works for me. Kind of like when the Cowboys hired Jimmy Johnson.

[RedskinsDave]

nyjunk, your little conspiracy theory is hilarious. He sure faked that back thing well didn't he? Unreal.

[nyjunc]

nyjunk, your little conspiracy theory is hilarious. He sure faked that back thing well didn't he? Unreal.

I'm not saying he faked it but I can confidently say if Grant Hill had another season of eligibility then he wouldn't have quit on his team and taken the year off.

Is it a coincidence that 10 years later this is probably the least talented team he has had since then and now he is seriously looking at LA? Do you think if deng & Livingston were playing at duke next year he would have even thought about LA for a second? I guess it's just a crazy coincidence? :rolleyes:

[PyroGenic]

I don't like Mike K and I don't like LA. So it works for me. Kind of like when the Cowboys hired Jimmy Johnson.

just hope that they don't have similar results...

[SkinsCT]

Even if Coach K leaves Duke will still be talented enough to challenge the Terps and UNC and NCST for the ACC title, sadly. I think the aftereffects of K leaving won't be felt for 2-3 years, because of recruiting. I hope he leaves for L.A., suffers through two seasons with pro's who only care about the money, and retires. And Duke sucks ever after, nothing would make me happier.

[rskinsfan10]

I'm not saying he faked it but I can confidently say if Grant Hill had another season of eligibility then he wouldn't have quit on his team and taken the year off.

Is it a coincidence that 10 years later this is probably the least talented team he has had since then and now he is seriously looking at LA? Do you think if deng & Livingston were playing at duke next year he would have even thought about LA for a second? I guess it's just a crazy coincidence? :rolleyes:

Quit on his team? The guy had a serious back condition for crying out loud. Unless you are his doctor who would know the extent of the damage, or Coach K himself who knew exactly how much pain HE was in, then how can you say with confidence that he wouldn't have taken the year off?

[nyjunc]

Quit on his team? The guy had a serious back condition for crying out loud. Unless you are his doctor who would know the extent of the damage, or Coach K himself who knew exactly how much pain HE was in, then how can you say with confidence that he wouldn't have taken the year off?

If he still had talent, if Grant Hill had another year or if this was the Laetnner teams then he would have found a way to keep coaching.

[rskinsfan10]

If he still had talent, if Grant Hill had another year or if this was the Laetnner teams then he would have found a way to keep coaching.

Okay dude. :rolleyes:

[nyjunc]

Okay dude. :rolleyes:

Obviously you haven't followed the man's career, I suppose it is a great coincidence that this year, after getting contacted probably every year, that he decides to take a serious look at an NBA offer. Do you think if deng & livingston showed up he's be doing this? It's the same deal w/ his back, he never would have stepped aside for a year if he had a talented team- NEVER!

[CarMike]

Perhaps this is my "Carolina Blue" colored glasses....but I agree with nyjunc on this one.

Theres no way that coach k would be leaving if Livingston/Deng were going to be at dook next year.

BUT, lets not forget that he hasn't taken the job yet. So this may mean nothing in the end....

[rskinsfan10]

Obviously you haven't followed the man's career, I suppose it is a great coincidence that this year, after getting contacted probably every year, that he decides to take a serious look at an NBA offer. Do you think if deng & livingston showed up he's be doing this? It's the same deal w/ his back, he never would have stepped aside for a year if he had a talented team- NEVER!

Dude, I'm not talking about Deng or Livingston. It is no secret that he is very upset with the current climate of college basketball. He has said so publically, and his boy Vitale has stated it for him many times, even before this Laker job became available.

I find it laughable that you would be here essentially saying that the guy quit on his team years ago, when you have no idea the extent of how bad of shape that his back was in. You are saying this with confidence when you don't KNOW this to be the truth. How do you KNOW this? Because you followed his career? Please. I'm an ACC man myself, so I've followed his career just as much as you have. Did Pitino take his leave this past year because his team started to lose some games? What about Majerus when he left? John Thompson stated health and personal reasons when he walked away. Was he lying too? I'm no Coach K fan by any means, but I surely don't buy into your conspiracy, especially when you haven't a shred of evidence to prove it, outside what you THINK.

[RedskinsDave]

I like how the whole thing has worked out. First, the Lakers get some old veterans, then they underachieve. They make it to the playoffs and ultimately lose to Detroit. This makes Phil Jackson decide to leave the team. Once Phil left, Luol Deng decides to go pro. Now it sets it up perfectly for the most storied franchise in the NBA to go after the best coach in college. I love how all these pieces fell together so that Coach K can "quit" on his team again.

FYI, I got my info in a parking garage from a guy I'll call Deepthroat. On a similar note, Dean Smith QUIT because he knew that Carowhina was gonna stink for a few years.

[nyjunc]

Did Pitino take his leave this past year because his team started to lose some games? What about Majerus when he left? John Thompson stated health and personal reasons when he walked away.

-Pitino left for a short time and i believe his team was starting to win when he left.

-You can look at Majerus and know he was a heart attack waiting to happen.

-Thompson left b/c he was losing.


The difference btw those 3 and K is Pitino left for a few weeks, Majerus & thompson left for good. K left while things were bad and came back when he thought he'd be the savior after he threw his buddy in front of the bus.

I searched and found this and it basically says what I said.

http://truthaboutduke.com/encyc.php?encycid=9

[nyjunc]

I like how the whole thing has worked out. First, the Lakers get some old veterans, then they underachieve. They make it to the playoffs and ultimately lose to Detroit. This makes Phil Jackson decide to leave the team. Once Phil left, Luol Deng decides to go pro. Now it sets it up perfectly for the most storied franchise in the NBA to go after the best coach in college. I love how all these pieces fell together so that Coach K can "quit" on his team again.

FYI, I got my info in a parking garage from a guy I'll call Deepthroat. On a similar note, Dean Smith QUIT because he knew that Carowhina was gonna stink for a few years.

First off, It's been know since about midseason that Phil Jackson was gone and luol deng declared 2 mos ago as did Livingston. had those 2 not declared K would have laughed at Kupchak's offer.

By the way, Dean left Antawn jamison & vince Carter for Bill Guthridge. he left the Gut the best team in the Country coming back in 1998(along w/ Arizona they were the best). Gut was a good coach but had recruiting problems which led to the BRIEF demise of UNC basketball. Dean wanted to retire a couple pf years earler but after Stackhouse and wal;l;ace left after their sophomore years he came back as to not leave the program the way K may leave duke. Had Vince & Antawn not come back for their jr. seasons then Dean would not have retired in october of 1997.

[nyjunc]

It doesn't matter now b/c coach K has decided to stay, get the emergency room ready b/c the back should be going out by December.

[RedskinsDave]

Wow, citing thetruthaboutduke.com. Talk about reliable. An entire website based on jealousy.

[nyjunc]

Wow, citing thetruthaboutduke.com. Talk about reliable. An entire website based on jealousy.

based on hatred but provides links to actual articles.

[rskinsfan10]

-Pitino left for a short time and i believe his team was starting to win when he left.

-You can look at Majerus and know he was a heart attack waiting to happen.

-Thompson left b/c he was losing.


The difference btw those 3 and K is Pitino left for a few weeks, Majerus & thompson left for good. K left while things were bad and came back when he thought he'd be the savior after he threw his buddy in front of the bus.

I searched and found this and it basically says what I said.

http://truthaboutduke.com/encyc.php?encycid=9

Like I said before, okay dude :rolleyes: . I suppose Joe Gibbs was lying too the first time around when he retired. It's very convenient for you to sit on a message board and call folks liars in response to what they say is going on within their own personal lives, and without a shred of evidence to prove it. You go ahead and do whatever it takes to crave your Blue Devil hatred. To each his own I suppose.

[rskinsfan10]

It doesn't matter now b/c coach K has decided to stay, get the emergency room ready b/c the back should be going out by December.

So he essentially shoots one of your theories down, so in anger you level another ridiculous one against him. Unbelievable......

[nyjunc]

So he essentially shoots one of your theories down, so in anger you level another ridiculous one against him. Unbelievable......

I didn't think K would sink this low, he basically just did this to get some more love shown his way. I thought w/ everything being so public that he was gone instead he takes his players, school, fans on a rollercoaster ride and keeping them waiting for his word and comes back to be know as the conquering hero.

Just b/c he came back does not shoot down my theory. He NEVER would have even talked to LA had he had typical duke talent returning, he didn't bail on them like in '95 but who knows what the future holds.

If I was a duke fan(thank goodness I'm not) I'd be happy he was back but upset that he put me through this for no reason. he basically gave duke fans heartburn all 4th of July weekend worried whether he'd come back and there was no need to do such a thing.

The man is a hypocrite as he goes off on certain players of his for leaving early(Avery & Dunleavy heading the list) yet he basically does the same thing in exploring his options. he is a total fraud.

[rskinsfan10]

Okay dude. :rolleyes:

[nyjunc]

Keep your head in the sand and believe what you want to believe.

[rskinsfan10]

Okay dude :rolleyes: I'd rather keep my head in the sand then stuck up whatever you have yours in. With all of this anti Coach K ranting that you have done, you have not offered one shred of proof to back up your claims that the guy essentially faked the severity of a back ailment.

As I have said several times though, okay dude. :rolleyes:

[nyjunc]

Okay dude :rolleyes: I'd rather keep my head in the sand then stuck up whatever you have yours in. With all of this anti Coach K ranting that you have done, you have not offered one shred of proof to back up your claims that the guy essentially faked the severity of a back ailment.

As I have said several times though, okay dude. :rolleyes:


Do you honestly think stuff like that would come out? I never said he faked the injury, I said if he had a talented team he would not have taken most of the year off. I just find it hard to believe that his 2 worst teams talent wise were '95 and this year and in '95 he took the year off and this year he flirted w/ leaving this team. He is a complete fraud, just look at what he did ro Williams Avery(telling him he's going to F up his program for leaving early instead of supporting him), mike Dunleavy(another guy he took to task for leaving early yet K explores the same option), Pete Gaudett(longtime, loyal assistant and he leaves him to the wolves in '95 then strikes all of those games off his own record and banishing gaudett who is now an assitant women's CBB coach) and Greg Newton(gets caught cheating on a final exam yet is allowed to play but struggles during the season and K dismisses him). He is just a complete fraud.

[rskinsfan10]

O K A Y D U D E :rolleyes:

[PyroGenic]

wow... so much hate towards coach K... you all can believe what you wanna believe, people are starting to repeat themselves though so it's getting boring to watch you guys ague :rolleyes:

[LATrueRedskin]

wow... so much hate towards coach K... you all can believe what you wanna believe, people are starting to repeat themselves though so it's getting boring to watch you guys ague :rolleyes:

Yeah this guy really hates coach K for some reason.

[RedskinsDave]

I'd like to see NYjunk get a job offer from the great company making him the highest paid at his position and not look at it. Had Coach K done this in secrecy instead of out in the open, he'd probably say he's a weasel instead of "taking his fans on a roller coaster ride". Your hatred of the man, NYJ, is more proof of how good a coach he is since you are a UNC fan. You're the fraud.

[nyjunc]

I'd like to see NYjunk get a job offer from the great company making him the highest paid at his position and not look at it. Had Coach K done this in secrecy instead of out in the open, he'd probably say he's a weasel instead of "taking his fans on a roller coaster ride". Your hatred of the man, NYJ, is more proof of how good a coach he is since you are a UNC fan. You're the fraud.

very witty changing my username to nyjUNK from nyjUNC :thinker:

First off you cannot compare a normal citizen to someone who does what K does. K claims duke is so special and never wants his players to leave early yet he explores the opportunity. Why? b/c he wanted even more attention, more power, he wanted to show the new school Pres who's boss. had he done it in private I would have had some respect for the man, to do this in public was just a "look at me" exhibition by K. he wanted all the publicity and the God;s welcome home when he turned down the Lakers. I never thought even he would sink this low but he has.

I never said the man wasn't a great coach, he is obviously an all-time great and belongs on CBB's Mt Rushmore w/ Wooden, Dean & Rupp but that doesn't make him a good person b/c his actions have told us otherwise. I guess I was spoiled to follow a team w/ an all-time great coach and an all-time great man while growing up.

[RedskinsDave]

No, his actions have told YOU otherwise because you have the most amazingly slanted view of the man I have seen. I never thought a UNC fan would sink this low myself.

[nyjunc]

Yeah this guy really hates coach K for some reason.

I hate him b/c he coaches my team's arch rival, probably the way you guys hate Bill Parcells or hated tom Landry. I also hate K b/c he constantly is whining about something whether it's not getting EVERY call(since he only gets 90% of them) or whining about losing players to the NBA(which happened to duke for the first time in 1999 while it's been going on at other major programs since the 70s), the man is just a fraud. He gets mad at his players for leaving early, he ruins the career of a loyal longtime assistant, he keeps a player on his team even though he gets caught cheating on a final then the player doesn't play well which causes K to then remove him from the team b/c of academic issues(right, academic issues :doh: ). These are just some of the reasons I don't like him.

[nyjunc]

No, his actions have told YOU otherwise because you have the most amazingly slanted view of the man I have seen. I never thought a UNC fan would sink this low myself.

-What about William Avery & Mike dunleavy? K was very critical of the 2 of them includin telling Avery that he was F'in up his program.

-What about pete Gaudett? long time, loyal assistant and K ruins his career by quiting on the team then letting Pete take all the blame. When he got back he got rid of pete and Pete is now an assitsant at a Women's college.

-What about Greg Newton? Greg gets caught cheating on a final exam and K let's him play but then when newton isn't playing well he kicks him off the team and uses the academic excuse. Why when he was playing well and got caught didn't he kick him off the team, why did he wait until he was playing poorly?

the man is a fraud and and has hypnotized many media members and fans but some of us don't buy into it and someday you'll realize it too.

[RedskinsDave]

K was critical of those guys for leaving early when they were not ready, not the reasons you claim. Oh and please show me where K ever said they were "f-in up his program".

[nyjunc]

Again, why does he have to do that publicly to those players? Dean wasn't happy when Jeff McInnis ignored his advice to stay but he supported his decision. These players make mistakes sometimes but by being so critical K shows he only cares about himself and not the players.

[nyjunc]

I can't find the info on K's quote but i'll keep looking, here's a link w/ quotes from will's Mom for now. Scroll down the page:

http://www.acchandbook.com/articles4.html

[RedskinsDave]

That's the best you can do? Even the person who wrote the article turned on Burgess and Avery. Come on, don't you look silly enough already? I think it's time for your hourly prayer to the Smith statue.

[nyjunc]

"It seems like a lovely situation, but it also looked needy, like a desperate attempt to build a monument around Krzyzewski while he still is alive, entombing him on the campus. Richard Broadhead, the new president of the university, added to the impression at Wednesday's news conference, gushing so effusively over Krzyzewski that a face-down encounter with a paper bag seemed imminent. "

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/07/06/SPG457H52B1.DTL


"Earlier this week, Duke President Nan Keohane introduced “Professor K”, part of the university’s new Fuqua/Coach K Center of Leadership and Ethics. Now wait just a cotton pickin’ minute here. What’s next for K, Sainthood? Was he afraid he would get second billing to Mother Theresa when she was beatified this week?

Here are some issues I hope he discusses during his first ethics lecture:


• Receiving large sums of money from an athletic apparel manufacturer for outfitting his players in the company’s gear
• Using abusive profanity in addressing players and coaches
• Allowing his players to taunt opponents
• Intimidation of referees during games"

http://wakeforest.theinsiders.com/2/193177.html


"TELEVISION VIEWERS couldn’t hear it, yet Mike Krzyzewski’s recent words to an official came through loud and clear. As a camera zoomed in on Krzyzewski, Duke’s magnificent coach, he informed the official that North Carolina had only “FOUR #$%*#& FOULS!” '

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/7969834.htm


"He called time, with his team eight points behind and 11 seconds remaining vs. Georgia Tech, solely to ream veteran referee Ray Natili. So ferocious was the tirade you recalled that Coach K learned the ropes years ago at West Point, as a player for Coach "K, as in 'Krakatoa,' " Bobby Knight. Maryland's excitable Gary Williams could get kicked out four or five times and not do anything half as bad as Krzyzewski, who had already gotten one technical foul in the game."
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/bill_livingston/index.ssf?/base/sports/1079605991244330.xml


"Oh, but you're confused? You thought this was the sainted Mike Krzyzewski (pronounced ARRO-GANT PHONY), who runs the cleanest program in America, whose basketball players are also Nobel laureates who spend their spare time reading to the blind and turning water into wine (and not just wine, but Chardonay). Well then you've spent too much time listening to the national media, which props up and adores Duke, led by ESPN and Dick Vitale, who often has to wear a slobber bucket around his neck when calling Blue Devils games."

http://albanyherald.net/sportsarchive/0304/sport032304.html

[nyjunc]

http://www.truthaboutduke.com/duhon_nola.php
(above is a reprint of an article from a New orleans newspaper)


http://www.truthaboutduke.com/not_royal.php
(above is a reprint from Wash Times)


http://upperdeckchevy.com/accboards/maryland43696.1.27844-1.html
(copied from Bob Ryan's Boston Globe article)


http://www.truthaboutduke.com/encyc.php?encycid=17
(a page w/ links about the Corey Maggette situation)



Are these articles enough for you or do you want more?

[RedskinsDave]

Please more. I know there has to be more jealous people like yourself. Glad to know you're not the only one. Winning sure does create a nasty animal. You're a Yankees fan so I guess you know that Torre gets the same sort of rap from haters.

[LATrueRedskin]

Yeah I question you're sources. These seem to be from disgruntled guys as well who also happen to write columns. William Avery's mom is just mad because her son made the biggest mistake of his life by leaving early to go to the NBA. I've never heard his name again until now.

[nyjunc]

Please more. I know there has to be more jealous people like yourself. Glad to know you're not the only one. Winning sure does create a nasty animal. You're a Yankees fan so I guess you know that Torre gets the same sort of rap from haters.

I'll post more in the coming days. Of course winning breeds jealousy and hatred but it goes beyond that w/ K b/c he has this golden reputation by the misiniformed media across the Country. They think he can do no wrong but those of us that follow it closely know different. Like I wrote earlier the man is obciously an all-time great coach but that doesn't mean i have to like him. other great coaches and teams that I don't like I at least have respect for them such as Bellichick(and he spurned my team but he had good reason), gruden, etc... but i don't respect K b/c I believe he is a fraud.


Yeah I question you're sources. These seem to be from disgruntled guys as well who also happen to write columns.

Some might be but all are not disgruntled and they back up their notions w/ facts, they are facts that most of the public doesn't know about b/c most of the Nat'l Media just kiss K's behind and never write about word about him.

[rskinsfan10]

An intervention is probably needed Dave.