Baseball in DC!!!!

[PennSkinsFan]

this is from an ESPN Montreal Expos message baord....

"ESPN Radio is reporting That the Spos players were told yesterday that they would probably be playing in Washington next year by MLB."

:) :)

[akhhorus]

its been basically a done deal for a month, the only question was how much Angelos would get in compensation.

[Ramsey2Moss]

OFF TOPIC!!!!

[davaj]

Oh my god!! I have got to move back to the area. Is Fedex the most likely place they'll play?

[akhhorus]

Oh my god!! I have got to move back to the area. Is Fedex the most likely place they'll play?

RFK more than likely, until a baseball only stadium can be built.

[GolfFreak]

Wow - so it says Washington not Northern VA? That's good news - DC needs baseball. I wonder if they'd change their name.

[Carmelo]

Oh my god!! I have got to move back to the area. Is Fedex the most likely place they'll play?

No. Not fedex. They have several planned sites but all of them are in the district. I think the most likely will be RFK after renovation because it's the only offered site where the owners won't have to pay rent. I'm excited. I've never really gotten into baseball other than the last two playoffs but that's mostly because I've never had a home team. With a team here and playing at RFK (my mom works next door at the Armory) I'd be diehard; almost as much as I am for the redskins. I'd definitely watch and follow the team. Great move.

[SkinsKY]

I've never really cheered for Baseball as I never felt like the O's were my home team, but now seems like a good time to start. I would love to see the announcement come out soon.

[akhhorus]

the question now is; will they change their name? Senators? Horny Congressmen?

[davaj]

Gotta be the Senators !!! The city would go nuts.

[davaj]

OFF TOPIC!!!!
Ok. How about, Redskin fans once again have a summer pasttime !!

[SkinsKY]

I think the Washington Senators would be terrific. I think the D.C. Expos would be fine, but not the Washington Expos.

[Skinzaholic]

the question now is; will they change their name? Senators? Horny Congressmen?


The latter would make for some interesting logo options.

[akhhorus]

The latter would make for some interesting logo options.

and an interesting mascot.

[SkinsKY]

and an interesting mascot.
and an interesting 7th inning "stretch".

[LATrueRedskin]

Thats pretty cool to have baseball in D.C. I hope they change their name and uniform though.

[RedskinRyan]

give angelos some starting pitching, thats what he really needs. dc needs baseball. the nation's capital has a team in basketball, football, soccer, hockey, now how is america's game not going to be here anymore? what i say is about time. if this doesnt happen, it would be a shame.

[bfauble83]

My days as a White Sox fan are numbered...GO EXPOS!!!!

[bfauble83]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1844551

[PyroGenic]

well it says washington DC area... couldnt that be NOVA?

[split3clemente]

THIS RULES

expos better ot go to N VA tho, that would suck big time

[rskinsfan10]

The Union is denying that report.

Wash Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6643-2004Jul22.html)

[dj_stouty]

THIS RULES

expos better ot go to N VA tho, that would suck big time

Well, if they do go to Nova, you can blame DC for low-balling their bid. Nova clearly has better plans for a high-tech fully-financed stadium. DC has reduced their stadium plans, due to budgetary reasons.

I'd personally love it, as the ball park would be less than 10 minutes from my house. :D

[dj_stouty]

I think the Washington Senators would be terrific.

I like Spence's idea of the Washington Nationals.

[split3clemente]

F northern virginia, bring the team to DC, if they went to N VA they would be the same distance away from me time wise as the orioles are right now

[dj_stouty]

F northern virginia, bring the team to DC, if they went to N VA they would be the same distance away from me time wise as the orioles are right now

:rolleyes:

That's mature...

[split3clemente]

who said i was mature?

[LATrueRedskin]

ESPN just said it's likely that the "Expos" will probably be in D.C.

[dj_stouty]

ESPN just said it's likely that the "Expos" will probably be in D.C.

I have a feeling, MLB will announce the Nova and DC sites are the two finalists and draw it out before deciding on the two.

Really, MLB has no choice but to award the metro DC area a team. No other cities come close to the potential of this market. THe only other option is contraction, and the unions wont allow it.

[nyjunc]

Congrats on getting an MLB team again! it's about time, they've been talking about MLB in DC for most of my life, it's too bad the 'Spos got let Guerrero and Vasquez(and all the other good players they let go a while ago) go or you'd have the building blocks to a pretty good team right away.

[Axegrinder]

Not So Fast....http://hamptonroads.cox.net/cci/newslocal/local?_mode=view&view=LocalNewsArticleView&articleId=31517

[RedskinsDave]

Of course they're gonna deny it. They haven't done anything intelligent in years and don't want to appear to be changing their ways.

[Axegrinder]

Of course they're gonna deny it. They haven't done anything intelligent in years and don't want to appear to be changing their ways.
Neither has D.C.![I'm talking about the politics here folks]

[AGibbsGirl]

RFK more than likely, until a baseball only stadium can be built.

Correct me if I'm wrong (but I'm not) RFK (aka D.C. Stadium) used to be a baseball stadium used by the Senators in the 1960's.
There should be no reason to build a new stadium...would there?

Here's a link: http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/RFKStadium.htm

[rskinsfan10]

Correct me if I'm wrong (but I'm not) RFK (aka D.C. Stadium) used to be a baseball stadium used by the Senators in the 1960's.
There should be no reason to build a new stadium...would there?

Here's a link: http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/RFKStadium.htm

You cannot make the money that MLB desires with baseball at RFK. It's all about the luxury suites and other ammenities that RFK simply doesn't have compared to the new wave of pro sports venues.

[akhhorus]

Correct me if I'm wrong (but I'm not) RFK (aka D.C. Stadium) used to be a baseball stadium used by the Senators in the 1960's.
There should be no reason to build a new stadium...would there?

Here's a link: http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/RFKStadium.htm

You cannot make the money that MLB desires with baseball at RFK. It's all about the luxery suites and orher ammenities that RFK simply doesn't have compared to the new wave of pro sports venues.

he's right: RFK can hold baseball games, but in order to have a good team, they would need to build a big new stadium with bells and whistles on it.

[split3clemente]

just get the team here....

[ScalpinSteve]

Fairfax for 2006!!!

[split3clemente]

Washington DC for 2005

[rskinsfan10]

Great article from Tom Friend.

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=1846586)

[split3clemente]

that article was amazing, thanks...couldnt have said it any better myself, I hate going to orioles games and seeing fools with their ravens jerseys on, EXPOS....screw the Os

[Spence]

I'm sticking with my original choice for a name: Washington Nationals.

[straightupbeast]

i like going to o's games its a fun time to be had and theyre my favorite team but it would be nice to go to a national league game and see all those national league teams without having to go up to philly

[split3clemente]

os suck

[Beast56Redskin]

i love mora and tejada, but stupid peter angelo. he deserves NO compensation. and keep baseball in dc, with the metro. none of this dulles crap.

[split3clemente]

i love mora and tejada, but stupid peter angelo. he deserves NO compensation. and keep baseball in dc, with the metro. none of this dulles crap.

tru tru, I like tejada, hes amazing, but c'mon, move the team to dulles, thats a joke

we need a team in downtown DC

[Beast56Redskin]

Darn right. forget dulles, i would rather go out to balti than to dulles. itll take the same time. put it on a metro station. PLEASE

[Axegrinder]

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=74769&ran=112627

[fent]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1887083

According to two baseball officials involved in the discussions, the most likely resolution of the Expos' situation would have Bud Selig announcing that the team will move to Washington next year, pending the approval of funds to renovate RFK Stadium, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark has learned.

[RedskinRyan]

HELL YEAH!!!!! NO MORE ROOTING FOR THE O'S!!!! i just dont like the orioles for some reason, and i wanted a team in DC cause right now the cubs are my favorite, and i wanna like the local teams.

[akhhorus]

before y'all get all excited, Angelos will probably sue to prevent this.

[GolfFreak]

If they were selling the team they would've done it by now, I'm wondering if MLB will still own the team if the move to the area. That doesn't sit well with me since they could still contract the team in 2 years.

[CarMike]

From what I've been hearing is that the MLB is willing to pay angelos a lot of money up front. And then if he can prove down the road that the team in DC is taking away money, they'll pay the difference for a while...or something similar...

I wonder how other cities can survive but the O's can't? Example....Oakland A's and the San Fran Giants...Houston Astros and Texas Rangers....Anahiem Angels and L.A. Dodgers.

[akhhorus]

From what I've been hearing is that the MLB is willing to pay angelos a lot of money up front. And then if he can prove down the road that the team in DC is taking away money, they'll pay the difference for a while...or something similar...

I wonder how other cities can survive but the O's can't? Example....Oakland A's and the San Fran Giants...Houston Astros and Texas Rangers....Anahiem Angels and L.A. Dodgers.

Ive read that they've offered Angelos 150 million or some broadcasting rights(that would give him a ton of money) and he's turned down both. The problem with him suing is that he has no real case due to the AntiTrust exception.

[RedskinsDave]

Angelos can sue but he can't stop it. F him anyways, the little troll.

[1stdownguy]

Angelos is only postponing the enevitable...Tailgating at RFK again will be worth it even if it's only for 1 season. Can't wait.

[fent]

From what I've been hearing is that the MLB is willing to pay angelos a lot of money up front. And then if he can prove down the road that the team in DC is taking away money, they'll pay the difference for a while...or something similar...

I wonder how other cities can survive but the O's can't? Example....Oakland A's and the San Fran Giants...Houston Astros and Texas Rangers....Anahiem Angels and L.A. Dodgers.

rangers and astros survive because we're 6 hours apart...texas is a lot bigger than most realize...14 hours to get across at some points

[LATrueRedskin]

I changed my position on this, because I can't stand Angelos anymore. I WAS going to root for the Orioles if a team came to D.C., but Angelos crying and wanting money because he doesn't want to put an actual team on the field was the straw that broke the camels back.

[hail2skins]

I'm sitting patiently waiting on the announcement so I can order my season tix.

[dj_stouty]

I'm sitting patiently waiting on the announcement so I can order my season tix.

Me too...

I can't wait to go to a few games next year...

I will NEVER, EVER go to another Orioles game again. Screw Angelos. He brought this on himself. Had he not been such an opponent to DC baseball, I'd actually go to an O's game once or twice a year, as I always have. Not anymore.

Don't forget Angelos' historic quote, which should be blasted from every corner of RFK during the season opener. "There are no real baseball fans in DC"! WRONG!

[straightupbeast]

BASEBALL IN DC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no where can i get in line for season tickets

[akhhorus]

They wont be the Senators, the Rangers still own the rights to that name. I think they should bring back the old Negro league name: THe Washington Grays.

[LATrueRedskin]

MSNBC is saying it will officially be announced tommorrow.

[Skins Guy]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

FINALLY, BASEBALL, HAS COME BAAAACK!!!

TOOO WAAASHINGTON, DC!!!

I am so excited about this.

[nyjunc]

They wont be the Senators, the Rangers still own the rights to that name. I think they should bring back the old Negro league name: THe Washington Grays.

Somehow I don't think they will be the Washington Grays. I hope they buy the naming rights of the Senators, it just sounds right.

[suppitty]

FINALLY! but i have to say, angelos was right. now the orioles are going to crumble financially. I can see bigger crowds here than in baltimore from now on, and especially in the new ballpark which along with dc united's new stadium will make anacostia a sports mecca.

[GolfFreak]

Angelos finally bit the bullet and gave in (or had a boat load of cash dropped off) ... this is great news. The nations capital deserves baseball and I'm very excited about this!!!

[PennSkinsFan]

Excellent news for DC! Excellent!

[IowaSkinsFan]

its been basically a done deal for a month, the only question was how much Angelos would get in compensation.

Why should he get anything? The people who are going to be going to Washington games aren't going to Oriole games now because they hate Angelos. He isn't losing something he never had.

Will the team be renamed the Senators?

[RedskinsDave]

I haven't heard anywhere that getting the name Senators back would be a problem. I actually heard the opposite but I cannot find the article. They need to be called the Senators or the Nationals.

[dj_stouty]

Angelos made the statement that "Washington doesn't have any real baseball fans". He will eat those words after the first month of the baseball season next year.

I loved going to Camden yards twice a year for the atmosphere of the stadium. NOT ANYMORE! Had Angelos not been a stitch in the side of DC baseball, I would have certainly gone to a game or two even with a franchise in DC/N.VA. NOT ANYMORE!

(2) Pair of tickets to a Orioles game: $100
10 beers purchased at the 2 games: $60
Parking for the two games: $40
Food purchased at the two games: $100
The $300+ dollars Angelos won't get from dj_stouty next year: PRICELESS!

[akhhorus]

I haven't heard anywhere that getting the name Senators back would be a problem. I actually heard the opposite but I cannot find the article. They need to be called the Senators or the Nationals.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1890915

"The Rangers retain ownership of the name "Washington Senators," baseball spokesman Carmine Tiso said after consulting with Ethan Orlinsky, a lawyer for Major League Baseball Properties, the sport's licensing division."

[SkinsKY]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1890915

"The Rangers retain ownership of the name "Washington Senators," baseball spokesman Carmine Tiso said after consulting with Ethan Orlinsky, a lawyer for Major League Baseball Properties, the sport's licensing division."


I hope they give it up. If not, we'll probably end up with some dumb name like the Bobcats or something non-palpable like the Flash or something ridiculous. My vote is for either Senators or Nationals.

[RedskinsDave]

We can let Abe Pollin's wife vote so we'd end up with Sea Dogs like that farce of a vote the Bullets did.

I know Hicks owns the rights but I am pretty sure at the last owner's meeting he said he was willing to give it back to Washington.

[akhhorus]

We can let Abe Pollin's wife vote so we'd end up with Sea Dogs like that farce of a vote the Bullets did.

I know Hicks owns the rights but I am pretty sure at the last owner's meeting he said he was willing to give it back to Washington.

please to be a dear and find the link.

[Spence]

Camden Yards is a great park. I enjoyed going there to root against the Orioles. Conveniently, they've been rotten the last five or six years and rooting against them has been as fun and satisfying as I'd always hoped.

To paraphrase the great Peter Griffin: "Peter Angelos can kiss the fattest part of my ass."

[JoeDaSchmoe]

God I hope it's the Nationals. I can't get riled up about the name Senators.

[dj_stouty]

God I hope it's the Nationals. I can't get riled up about the name Senators.

N...A...T...S....Nats Nats Nats.

[ihatedallas]

AWESOME! I saw thids late on ESPN last night. To bad the expos did that BONEHEAD trade geting rid of there best player, orlando cabrera.

[IndianBaller27]

Now I can start liking baseball more. I wasn't really into it that much, but I will probably start liking it now.

[dabro]

I would prefer Senators as a name because that was the name they had when I was growing up in DC. It would be a link with the past. My second choice would be the Nationals. I think that was their name at some point way back when. I remember that the radio announcers would occasionally refer to the Senators as the "Nats". That may have been a contraction, though, of Se-NAT-ors. I mean, what else would you call them as a nickname... the "Sens" or the "Tors"? I think knot!

[akhhorus]

before y'all get excited, keep in mind that MLB will still run the team next year and they wont sign Matt Clement or Pedro and still will be the Expos next year. After that...

[MrWiggles]

They wont be the Senators, the Rangers still own the rights to that name. I think they should bring back the old Negro league name: THe Washington Grays.

I like it.

Here is a group pushing for that name

http://rememberthegrays.org/

[RedskinsDave]

I don't like the grays because it has no connection to the town.

[split3clemente]

Expos have some really nice prospects, they got a stud named brendan harris in that cabrera deal, they have vidro, wilkerson and livan hernandez. I heard that Omar Minaya WILL NOT return as GM...thats really bad news for us

[PGiddy18]

Expos have some really nice prospects, they got a stud named brendan harris in that cabrera deal, they have vidro, wilkerson and livan hernandez. I heard that Omar Minaya WILL NOT return as GM...thats really bad news for us

I do have some good news for you though. No matter how bad your team does, you will still beat the Phillies. I don't know how, or why it happens, but it does. We can go toe to toe with the Braves (i'm talking over the past few years) but every time we go against the the Expos, it looks like a little league team out there. :banghead: So regardless of the team name, you'll have a few wins under your belt. Baffles me, and is frustrating as all hell, but it still happens. (*My father suggests we move the phillies to DC, and the Expos to Philly, that way we can finally win a few... I just told him he was senile...) The Expo Farm system isn't bad, but if you get the right people in the office, they can do nothing but improve.

I think the Nationals would be the best name. Senators reminds me too much of hockey and Grays i dont' think will be too popular.

[Carmelo]

I am officially a baseball fan now.

[MrWiggles]

I don't like the grays because it has no connection to the town.

Didn't the Gray's play at Griffith Stadium?

[straightupbeast]

before y'all get excited, keep in mind that MLB will still run the team next year and they wont sign Matt Clement or Pedro and still will be the Expos next year. After that...

baseball is running the team next year?

[suppitty]

They better hurry up and determine a name and logo becuase i want some merchandise.

[bfauble83]

I'm hoping its Nationals, it just sounds better than Senators IMO (I wasn't alive during the Senators days therefore I have no ties to that name) Either way I'm just excited to have a team to root for.

[MrWiggles]

baseball is running the team next year?

That is yet to be seen. According to the Post they may try and sell the team before the end of the year.

"Baseball is hoping the Expos will fetch more than $300 million in an auction. The league is likely to put the team up for sale this fall and possibly close the deal by year's end, which would give a new ownership group an opportunity to put its stamp on the organization."

[bfauble83]

300 Mil is high considering the Angels went for 182 mil.

Hopefully they sell the team quickly so that we can get a few decent free agents and have a decent team next year.

[suppitty]

Ok, this is the team name...the bluesocks. Completing the colors of the flag.
redsocks
whitesocks
and bluesocks.

[dj_stouty]

Mayor Williams likes the Grays over the Senators because the District of Columbia doesn't have any Senators. (Taxation without Representation)

I still like Senators...if we can buy the name back from the Rangers, or the Nationals if we can't.

Anyone ever see the musical, "Damn Yankees"? It takes place in the 40s or 50s and it is about a Washington Senators fan who lives in Chevy Chase and sells his soul to the devil to allow his team to beat the Yankees in the world series. I saw it with my wife and the parents 2 weekends ago, and it was pretty decent. Best part was that the actors playing the Senator players were wearing near-original jerseys and they looked SHARP. The letter "W" is on the breast of the jersey and on the hat.

[Axegrinder]

Congrats D.C.!!!
It's not Norfolk,but I'll toast to you anyway!!! :beer:

[RedskinsVision]

now i can start getting the O's out of my heart slowly for the next several years as i start to root for my new team.. it's about time D.C. gets a team! now we have all major sports teams.. feels complete.

no Senators, Diplomats or Grays.. i like War Hawks j/k.. or Republicrats j/k again. how bout' the Red Hawks then? or Generals? Nationals? Statesmen? ah.. just don't name them the Wizards that have no bearing on the nation's capital.

[akhhorus]

baseball is running the team next year?

unless they can sell the team and get it approved within 3 months. It is possible, but I doubt it.

[sdredskinsfan]

Baseball is so boring to me. Especially compared to the NFL. But I'm glad so many people seem to be so happy about baseball returning to D.C.

[split3clemente]

we lost minaya....that sucks hes a great GM, hopefully wecan get a new ownership, free agents and have a decent year next year

[akhhorus]

This might be good news:
http://washtimes.com/sports/20041002-122224-9846r.htm

Pat Gillick interested in DC Expos GM job.

[RedskinsDave]

With Tony Tavares and Pat Gillick, that's a great front office. If they keep the great minors system and spend wisely, we can have a good team pretty quickly.

[Jimreaper007]

Honestly,

I am shocked Republicans are not witholding Federal funds until the City names the team the Washington Reagans.


Seriously...I think they will be able to negotiate the name from the Rangers.

If they cannot I like Akhhorus Idea of naming them the Washington Grays after the negro league team.

A lot of history there

:)

[Jimreaper007]

RedskinsDave,

Unfortunately from what I have been reading Montreal's excellent scouts fled when the team's future was in doubt and MLB took over. Most of the really good scouts caught on with other clubs.

I agree that Montreal has a FABULOUS scouting system and the list to stars to pass through their farm system is crazy.

[ihatedallas]

Ok i understand the greys and the senators but th nationals...Is there any history around that? I like it and it sounds cool but did someone just say it would be cool if they were called that or is there a real reason they would be called that?

[IndianBaller27]

How about the Bullets? Hey just a thought. They said it on PTI.

[akhhorus]

With Tony Tavares and Pat Gillick, that's a great front office. If they keep the great minors system and spend wisely, we can have a good team pretty quickly.

they dont have the minors they once had, they have decent prospects(especially Harris), but they arent the factory of great players they once were.

[bfauble83]

Ok i understand the greys and the senators but th nationals...Is there any history around that? I like it and it sounds cool but did someone just say it would be cool if they were called that or is there a real reason they would be called that?

I believe it was the team name in the late 1800s early 1900s

[ihatedallas]

I believe it was the team name in the late 1800s early 1900s

ok thanks

[Axegrinder]

Over 170 people expected to speak...http://hamptonroads.cox.net/cci/newslocal/local?_mode=view&view=LocalNewsArticleView&articleId=77631