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RedskinsVision
08-19-2004, 02:00 AM
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20040818-112341-3705r.htm

Time for a rerun of LaVar Leap?

The LaVar Leap might be back.

Washington Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington yesterday speculated that he might unleash the highlight reel move from his Penn State days now that he is positioned off the line of scrimmage and more frequently in front of the ball.

Arrington's new positioning was on display in Saturday's preseason loss to the Carolina Panthers. On third-and-goal from the 1, the three-time Pro Bowl linebacker helped Antonio Pierce stuff running back Stephen Davis just short of the goal line.

There was no need for a leap on that play, but Arrington sounded ready for the maneuver — in which he soars over the line just as the ball is snapped and crumples the ballcarrier — as he discussed stuffing Davis.

"Go figure. It was the first time somebody's put me in a situation where I'm behind the ball," Arrington said after practice last night. "Like, I can actually have an opportunity to do a leap."

Arrington's positioning is an annual topic of debate. He played strongside linebacker his first four NFL seasons, though his specific positioning vacillated as Washington cycled through defensive coordinators. In each usage, he often had to cover a tight end or shed the tight end's block before chasing the ballcarrier.

Now with Marcus Washington taking over the strong side, Arrington is making an intriguing switch to the weak side, where his speed is appropriate and his 6-foot-3, 253-pound frame adds a wicked dimension. Weakside linebackers (think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Derrick Brooks) are often matched up against running backs and positioned to make more tackles.

Arrington sat out a second practice yesterday with a sore knee but isn't considered seriously injured.

Upshaw, Wynn healthy

Two defensive linemen are enjoying a preseason of full health and expect the results to start showing on the field.

Regan Upshaw and Renaldo Wynn battled injuries the past two years. Upshaw, who signed in 2003, had ACL surgery in 2002 and didn't fully heal. Wynn struggled with a groin injury his first two years as a Redskin.

Upshaw recorded just one sack last season after agreeing to a five-year, $7.5 million contract. Yesterday he was blunt about his disappointment.

"I [stunk]," Upshaw said. "I'll be the first to tell you. You can ask my wife, my kids, my family. And the worst is when you're [stinking] and you know it and you can't do anything about it. ... I feel more and more like myself every day. ... I think the next few weeks, [my play will] just get better and better and better."

This preseason Upshaw is contending for the key job of right end, where newcomer Phillip Daniels has been slowed by an abdomen strain. Regardless of who starts, Upshaw should get considerable snaps unless the Redskins somehow come up big in the Adewale Ogunleye derby.

Wynn also has been somewhat of a disappointment as a free agent pickup, though no one would dispute his high character and grittiness. This year he's hoping to make the big plays that have been absent since he signed a six-year, $20.5 million contract in 2002.

"I haven't missed one day of practice," Wynn said. "I've been strong from the start of camp, all the way through. ... It always helps when you're healthy, because you don't limit yourself. You don't have to fight through things. You can focus on other things besides just being injured."

Patrick
08-19-2004, 07:15 AM
I'll be much more impressed with solid LB play than a "Leap".

SkinsKY
08-19-2004, 08:12 AM
I'm be much more impressed with solid LB play than a "Leap".

ditto

redwolf1218
08-19-2004, 08:22 AM
i agree. just plug the hole. i dont see it happening in the NFL, but man that highlight from penn state was sweet. he hit both backs and even made the QB stumble out of there. i seem to remember the QB just shaking his head and walking off toward the sidelines. it was like a 3 yard loss on the play.

NamVet4
08-19-2004, 08:25 AM
I'm be much more impressed with solid LB play than a "Leap".
Brother Patrick is absolutely correct. "Consistency" is much better than flash in the pan highlights. LaVar - this is your time to step up and show all the coaches and fans that you are truly a member of our Beloved Team! You earned that right by sticking with the Team through the lousy times. Enjoy the good times that are to come! Be a Player !
:D

ihatedallas
08-19-2004, 11:11 AM
I like wynn so far,hes the one who forced the pressure on plummer when springs picked it off.As for the leap ,i dont care.Why not?As long as it doesnt interfere with stopping the play

RedskinRyan
08-19-2004, 12:09 PM
i heard somewhere that the leap just wont work in the NFL, so i dont really care. if it does it does though. i want more consistent play too, as long as its consistently good.

inevitable
08-19-2004, 12:16 PM
Interesting thing about Ogunleye, his agent is Rosenhaus, who is on very good terms with the Redskins. I wonder if we could exploit this relationship to get him on the team.

PyroGenic
08-19-2004, 12:19 PM
i couldve sworn that i saw him do the leap once a couple years ago... except all it did was scare the crap out of the QB and he chucked the ball at LaVar's face

openallnight
08-19-2004, 12:22 PM
I'll be much more impressed with solid LB play than a "Leap".
yea, i've seen too much of the lavar "whiff" already.

Skinsfan1311
08-19-2004, 12:28 PM
I definitely would rather see the "Lavar wrap-up your man" tackle, anyday.......

LadyNRedskinsfan
08-19-2004, 12:56 PM
im with you patrick.

on the other hand, id love to see him try this while we are winning by 4 TDs. :D.

IMALILTEAPOT
08-19-2004, 01:04 PM
Click here for a vintage Lavar leap. You need Quicktime to do it. Lavar Leap (http://www.psu.edu/sports/archives/98FBmovies/ill5.mov)

IMALILTEAPOT
08-19-2004, 01:25 PM
he is amazing

LadyNRedskinsfan
08-19-2004, 01:29 PM
i just showed it to my nephew, who is a LB in pee-wee football. he couldnt believe that was lavar. truly an amazing clip. thats why i said what i said. id like to see him try when we were winning by a large margin, just to see if he can do it.

garedskin
08-19-2004, 01:49 PM
I want him to make good reads and solid tackles every play possible.I think in the N.F.L. he needs to keep his feet on the ground unless he is blind siding an unwitting QB. :Peace:

REDMAN
08-19-2004, 02:09 PM
Just tackle baby, just tackle.

bantu
08-19-2004, 04:05 PM
Stop being a bunch of party-poopers!! I know we all want LaVar to be a more consistent tackler, but lets have a sense of humor here. The article is a puff piece and not meant to have any serious effect on anything. I'm sure LaVar isn't going to stand in the huddle and be like, "all right, on this play I'm going to do my leap!"

He was probably just thinking of different things he maybe able to do now that he has switched sides. He seems to be getting that question alot from the media.

Canuck
08-19-2004, 05:18 PM
I'm not sure if I'd like to see him use to bring down a running back like he did in the clip. I could say that athletism being really usefull when he's rushing the QB and the blocking back just dives at his knees. Now that would be cool to see, Lavar jumping over the blocking back and sacking the QB at the same time.

IMALILTEAPOT
08-19-2004, 05:21 PM
they said that he did that also. im gonna try and find another clip of the "O G" Lavar

IMALILTEAPOT
08-19-2004, 05:24 PM
I'm not sure if I'd like to see him use to bring down a running back like he did in the clip. I could say that athletism being really usefull when he's rushing the QB and the blocking back just dives at his knees. Now that would be cool to see, Lavar jumping over the blocking back and sacking the QB at the same time.
This is crazy. I found the exact clip of Lavar jumping over a back to sack the qb. He's incredible Lavar (http://www.psu.edu/sports/archives/98FBmovies/nw1.mov) :Pickle:

IMALILTEAPOT
08-19-2004, 05:27 PM
Here's a interception by Lavar for a tdClick (http://www.psu.edu/sports/archives/98FBmovies/bgreen3.mov)

IMALILTEAPOT
08-19-2004, 05:30 PM
Look at Lavar doing some special teams! Click (http://www.psu.edu/sports/archives/97FBmovies/msu6.mov)

HanburgerBum
08-19-2004, 06:09 PM
I want him to make good reads and solid tackles every play possible.I think in the N.F.L. he needs to keep his feet on the ground unless he is blind siding an unwitting QB. :Peace:

I am not sure he can do that without a 15-yard penalty. Isn't there a rule in the NFL against "launching" towards a QB? I believe I saw it called on Bruce Smith once. The rule is ridiculous, but what can you do?