Champions League 2004/2005

[Seebs]

Here we go. Results of the Draw:
Results (http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=219628.html)

We will play against Porto, Chelski, and Moscow!!!

Oh! It will be difficult, very difficult!

[Minnesota Mike]

The Hoops are grouped with Barca and Milan. That is pretty rough.

And Rangers, well they aren't grouped with anybody.

[Seebs]

Yep, CSKA Moscow kicked them out!

[suppitty]

My wild, off-base, random pick for this year is roma. dont know why. just got a feeling. I'll be routing for sparta prague.

[akhhorus]

Arsenal. They have a good draw. No powerhouses to deal with early.

[BigCountry]

Arsenal won't win. They've made a living off beating Balton Wanderes, Birmingham and other teams that wouldn't win the Israeli league. They won't have that in the CL.

[akhhorus]

Arsenal won't win. They've made a living off beating Balton Wanderes, Birmingham and other teams that wouldn't win the Israeli league. They won't have that in the CL.

you forgot Manchester United, Everton, Newcastle, Liverpool, Chelsea and didnt lose a game. Could any of those teams win the Israeli title? They arent much different from last year, only really Sol Campbell's injury.

[BigCountry]

Not sure when they beat Man Utd last year in the league and Chelsea knocked them out of Europe. Newcastle are a team that Arsenal is supposed to beat.

[flave1969]

Not sure when they beat Man Utd last year in the league and Chelsea knocked them out of Europe. Newcastle are a team that Arsenal is supposed to beat.

As much as I hate to say it being a Spurs fan, Arsenal now hold the English record for the most consecutive games in the league without a defeat at 43. That is 31 wins and 12 draws. That is the last two games of the 2002/2003 season, the entire 2003/2004 season and the first three games this year. It is an incredible feat.

Had Arsenal avoided Chelsea in the Champions League last year, I think they would have won it all. Arsenal have owned Chelsea for the past decade, Chelsea played one good game and gained an aggregate win. They have a 17 year old in Fabregas who is an incredible talent. Cambell and Viera have not even played yet this year.

After seeing the groups, I go with Arsenal.

[Seebs]

What I can tell you is that if we continue to play like that, PSG won't afraid anybbody in the C1.

[Minnesota Mike]

Games today:
Group E:
Arsenal v PSV
Panathinaikos v Rosenborg

Group F
Celtic v Barcelona (Henrik returns to Parkhead)
Shakhtar Donetsk v AC Milan

Group G
Inter Milan v Werder Bremen
Valencia v Anderlecht

Group H
FC Porto v CSKA Moscow
PSG v Chelsea

[Minnesota Mike]

And tomorrow's games:

Group A
D Coruna v Olympiakos
Liverpool v Monaco

Group B
Bayer Leverkusen v Real Madrid
Roma v Dynamo Kiev

Group C
Ajax v Juventus
Maccabi Tel-Aviv v Bayern Munich

Group D
Fenerbahce v Sparta Prague
Lyon v Man Utd

[Seebs]

I'm going to the PSG game in a couple of hours, I'll try to give U a summary tomorrow, if I'm not totally depressed...
Our level of playing is quite poor currently.

[Minnesota Mike]

Good luck today!

I plan on keeping an eye on the scores on the internet this afternoon. (Another productive day at the office).

I did just read that ESPN Deportes will be showing the Barca games (as well as Real Madrid and some others) live. And since Barca is playing Celtic, that is the game I want to see today. So now I'm trying to find out if I get ESPN Desportes on my DirecTV at home, but my wife won't answer the phone. Arrrggh!

[Minnesota Mike]

Results

Group E
Arsenal 1 0 PSV
Panathinaikos 2 1 Rosenborg

Group F
Celtic 1 3 Barcelona
Shakhtar Donetsk 0 1 AC Milan

Group G
Inter Milan 2 0 Werder Bremen
Valencia 2 0 Anderlecht

Group H
FC Porto 0 0 CSKA Moscow
PSG 0 3 Chelsea

Similar results for PSG and Celtic, I'm afraid. At least the Hoops managed to get one on the board, which is small consolation.

[BigCountry]

I really wouldn't wanna play Valencia if I was any big team in the CL right now. Of course Valencia is a big team in its own right...gotta love em'

[Seebs]

What a pity that the PSG did their best performance since the beginning of the season...
Chelski is more than impressive. They are very solid, gret midfield. Makelele and Tiago had a big game. Their forwards are good.
We lost on details even if the ball control was from Chelski.
I'm so-so on the game bc we played better than our last games, but it clearly wasn't enough for the team we had in front of us.
At least Porto is not the same team than last year, and our chance is here.

Just a note, Drogba is a B****.

[Minnesota Mike]

Today's results:

Group A
D Coruna 0 Olympiakos 0
Liverpool 2 Monaco 0

Group B
Bayer Leverkusen 3 Real Madrid 0
* Roma 0 Dynamo Kiev 1

Group C
Ajax 0 Juventus 1
Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 Bayern Munich 1

Group D
Fenerbahce 1 Sparta Prague 0
Lyon 2 Man Utd 2



* In Rome, a match between Roma and Dynamo Kiev was stopped at halftime with Dynamo leading 1-0 after Swedish referee Anders Frisk was hit in the head by an object thrown from the stands as he left the field. Frisk was helped off the field with blood streaming down his forehead and face.

As Frisk blew the whistle to end the first half, he gave a red card to Roma defender Philippe Mexes for pushing down a Dynamo defender. Frisk decided his assistants were too inexperienced to take over the match. UEFA will decide in the next few days when to complete the match.

[flave1969]

At some stage UEFA has got to get tough on things like this. If a British club did this they would be hit hard. This s**t happens week in week out in Spain and Italy and nothing is done.

[Minnesota Mike]

At some stage UEFA has got to get tough on things like this. If a British club did this they would be hit hard. This s**t happens week in week out in Spain and Italy and nothing is done.

Of course here in the US it is the fans who are in danger of getting injured by the players.

[Seebs]

I think Roma is in for a lot of troubles.

[RedSkinBrit]

Liverpool played well last night,the ex coach of Valencia (Rafael Benitez) is now manager and starting to make Liverpool strong again.Drogba gestures to the crowd against PSG was not good.

[flave1969]

Of course here in the US it is the fans who are in danger of getting injured by the players.

Did I miss something Mike?

[Minnesota Mike]

Did I miss something Mike?

You must have. Here is the latest on the story I was referencing:

espn (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1882359)

[flave1969]

Damn, I bet he is regretting doing that now. I bet the husband also abused the players more than he let on as well.

[Minnesota Mike]

Damn, I bet he is regretting doing that now. I bet the husband also abused the players more than he let on as well.

I doubt that the statement about intentionally sitting near the visitor's bullpen so they could mouth off to the players is going to be looked upon favorably by a judge or jury.

[Seebs]

Liverpool played well last night,the ex coach of Valencia (Rafael Benitez) is now manager and starting to make Liverpool strong again.Drogba gestures to the crowd against PSG was not good.

Well the crowd was not good against Drogba. He has been insulted all game long, and before the game. (I was there, so I know).
What we can say is that the crowd was stupid, and Drogba was more stupid to answer the way he did it. Goals would have been enough.

[Minnesota Mike]

At some stage UEFA has got to get tough on things like this. If a British club did this they would be hit hard. This s**t happens week in week out in Spain and Italy and nothing is done.

This seems like a pretty strong response:

forfeit (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-refereehit&prov=ap&type=lgns)

They take the loss for the in progress game, and they lose out on all the gate money for two big games, and have a significant part of the homefield advantage taken away.

[RedSkinBrit]

Well the crowd was not good against Drogba. He has been insulted all game long, and before the game. (I was there, so I know).
What we can say is that the crowd was stupid, and Drogba was more stupid to answer the way he did it. Goals would have been enough.
True,his football should have been his way of talking because he is a very talented player.

[Seebs]

This seems like a pretty strong response:

forfeit (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ap-refereehit&prov=ap&type=lgns)

They take the loss for the in progress game, and they lose out on all the gate money for two big games, and have a significant part of the homefield advantage taken away.

I think it is a good punishment.

[Minnesota Mike]

Today's results

Group A
Monaco 2 D Coruna 0 FT
Olympiakos 1 Liverpool 0 FT

Group B
Dynamo Kiev 4 Bayer Leverkusen 2 FT
Real Madrid 4 Roma 2 FT

Group C
Bayern Munich 4 Ajax 0 FT
Juventus 1 Maccabi Tel-Aviv 0 FT

Group D
Man Utd 6 Fenerbahce 2 FT
Sparta Prague 1 Lyon 2 FT

[Minnesota Mike]

Games tomorrow:

Group E
PSV v Panathinaikos
Rosenborg v Arsenal

Group F
AC Milan v Celtic
Barcelona v Shakhtar Donetsk

Group G
Anderlecht v Inter Milan
Werder Bremen v Valencia

Group H
CSKA Moscow v PSG
Chelsea v FC Porto

[Minnesota Mike]

Today's results:

Group E
PSV 1 Panathinaikos 0
Rosenborg 1 Arsenal 1

Group F
AC Milan 3 Celtic 1
Barcelona 3 Shakhtar Donetsk 0

Group G
Anderlecht 1 Inter Milan 3
Werder Bremen 2 Valencia 1

Group H
CSKA Moscow 2 PSG 0
Chelsea 3 FC Porto 1

[Seebs]

Chelski is the real deal!
Moscow is no fake. They can play really quick. Their second half was really good. Our first half was also but we didn't score.
The season is going to be long, very long! :(

[Seebs]

Panathinaikos 2 Fin
Arsenal 2

Rosenborg BK 1 Fin
PSV 2

Donetsk 3 Fin
Celtic 0

AC Milan 1
FC Barcelone 0

Valencia CF 1
Inter Milan 5

Anderlecht 1
Werder Breme 2

Paris Saint-Germain 2
FC Porto 0

Chelsea 2
CSKA Moskva 0

Liverpool 0
Deportivo La Coruña 0

AS Monaco 2
Olympiacos 1

Bayer Leverkusen 3
AS Roma 1

Real Madrid 1
Dynamo Kyiv 0

Ajax 3
Maccabi Tel Aviv 0

Juventus 1
Bayern Munich 0

Fenerbahçe 1
Olympique Lyonnais 3

Sparta Praha 0
Manchester United 0

[Seebs]

We finally start to play some footbal and beat the champs.
If you can, look at Coridon's goal. It is amazing!

[Minnesota Mike]

Donetsk 3 Fin
Celtic 0


Ouch.

I was (and still am really) too upset by this to post all of the scores yesterday. So thanks for covering it for me Seebs.

[Minnesota Mike]

Today's results:

Group E
Arsenal 1 1 Panathinaikos
PSV 1 0 Rosenborg

Group F
Barcelona 2 1 AC Milan
Celtic 1 0 Shakhtar Donetsk

Group G
Inter Milan 0 0 Valencia
Werder Bremen 5 1 Anderlecht

Group H
CSKA Moscow 0 1 Chelsea
FC Porto 0 0 PSG

[Seebs]

Quick update Mike! PSG is back on tracks for the qualification!!!!!

[Minnesota Mike]

Even with their win today The Hoops are still in a deep hole in their efforts to advance. The loss in the Ukraine a couple of weeks ago still stings.

[Seebs]

Deportivo La Coruña 0
Liverpool 1

Olympiacos 1
AS Monaco 0

AS Roma 1
Bayer Leverkusen 1

Dynamo Kyiv 2
Real Madrid 2

Maccabi Tel Aviv 2
Ajax 1

Bayern Munich 0
Juventus 1

Olympique Lyonnais 4
Fenerbahçe 2

Manchester United 4
Sparta Praha 1

[Seebs]

Inter, Chelsea, Lyon and Juve already qualified for next round.
Juve has won all their games 1-0 !!!!

[Seebs]

Olympiacos 1
Deportivo La Coruña 0

AS Monaco 1
Liverpool 0

Dynamo Kyiv 2
AS Roma 0

Real Madrid 1
Bayer Leverkusen 1

Bayern Munich 5
Maccabi Tel Aviv 1

Juventus 1
Ajax 0

Manchester United 2
Olympique Lyonnais 1

Sparta Praha 0
Fenerbahçe 1

[Seebs]

Group A
J G N P Diff. Pts.
1 Olympiacos 5 3 1 1 +2 10
2 AS Monaco 5 3 0 2 +1 9
3 Liverpool 5 2 1 2 +1 7
4 La Coruña 5 0 2 3 -4 2

Olympiacos, Monaco and Liverpool can still qualify. La Coruña is eliminated.

Group B
J G N P Diff. Pts.
1 Dynamo Kyiv 5 3 1 1 +6 10
2 Bayer Leverk 5 2 2 1 +3 8
3 Real Madrid 5 2 2 1 0 8
4 AS Roma 5 0 1 4 -9 1

Kyif, Leverkusen and Madrid can still qualify. Roma is eliminated.

Group C
J G N P Diff. Pts.
1 Juventus 5 5 0 0 +5 15
2 Bayern Munich 5 3 0 2 +7 9
3 Ajax 5 1 0 4 -4 3
4 Tel Aviv 5 1 0 4 -8 3

Juve and bayern qualified. Ajax or Tel Aviv in UEFA. (Juve has won their 5 games 1-0)

Group D
J G N P Diff. Pts.
1 Manchester United 5 3 2 0 +8 11
2 Olympique Lyonnais 5 3 1 1 +4 10
3 Fenerbahçe 5 2 0 3 -6 6
4 Sparta Praha 5 0 1 4 -6 1

ManU and Lyon qualified. Fenerbahce in Uefa. Sparta out.

[Minnesota Mike]

Results for today:

PSV 1
Arsenal 1

Rosenborg 2
Panathinaikos 2


AC Milan 4
Shakhtar Donetsk 0

Barcelona 1
Celtic 1


Anderlecht 1
Valencia 2

Werder Bremen 1
Inter Milan 1


CSKA Moscow 0
FC Porto 1

Chelsea 0
PSG 0

[GeneralDisorder]

All of our attacking options out (Cisse, Baros, Garcia) and we still hump the ex-invincible Goonies. Cracking game - Rafa's really got the Beneatles buzzing at home...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4028103.stm

[Seebs]

Porto joins Chelsea in group H after a catastrophic game by PSG who lost 3-1 at home while playing 11 to 10 for 30 minutes (Goal 2&3 of Moscow were during that period of time).
Arsenal joins PSV in group E. In group F, Barca and Milan were already qualified.
In group G, Breme joins Inter after defeating Valencia 2-0 in Spain.

[flave1969]

Seebs you must feel really bad. That was a tough group too be in. Porto really pulled a result out of the fire tonight.

[Seebs]

Seebs you must feel really bad. That was a tough group too be in. Porto really pulled a result out of the fire tonight.
We should have won it, this is the worst game of the pSG fior years...
I'm ... I just don't know how to say it...

[GeneralDisorder]

Cracking result for Rafa's boys tonight - coming from behind to win 3-1...

Shades of St.Etienne in 1977...

[flave1969]

Cracking result for Rafa's boys tonight - coming from behind to win 3-1...

Shades of St.Etienne in 1977...

Not Arf General.

Great comeback, just did not see it happening at half time, but Pongy made an immediate impact. the sign of a goos manager is one who is not afraid to make changes. Benitez is a good manager, keep faith with him.

[GeneralDisorder]

Gerrard's suspended for the first leg in t'next round. If we can just get Igor fit we'll do fine...