UVA Football Thread...

[dj_stouty]

And now...your....20th ranked University of Virginia Cavaliers!

UVA destroyed Temple in Philadelphia this past weekend 44 to 14. The Cavs ran the ball 57 times for an amazing 286 yards and 4 TDs. Standout RB, Wali Lundy grabed over 100 and 3 TDs in the romp. UVA Qb Marques Hagans connected on over 77% of his passes for over 200 yards and 1 TD.

Next up? UVA hosts the Tar Heels in Charlottesville this Saturday. The Tar Heels gave up 38 points to William & Mary last week, so this should be easy for the Wahoos.

[rskinsfan10]

I hope it's easy. I'm not ready to take UNC lightly, because like I told CarMike, W&M traditionally has a great team, and they play the big boys toe to toe with alot of heart.

Hagans is the key. If we can get consistent play from him this year, this could be a wonderful season.

[suppitty]

UVA has to figure out how to get amhad brroks the ball at all times. I bet he could run for 1500 yards if he lined up in the backfield. They are my sleeper national champion.

[CarMike]

I'm not just saying this...but I see UVA winning this in a shootout. UNCs offense is pretty good this year.

Its our defense thats still light years behind. And the dissapointing thing in that is that Coach Bunting is a defensive type of guy. Played LBer at UNC in the early 70s and played LBer for the Eagles.

I wouldn't be surprised if the score is 50 something [UVA] to 30 something. [UNC]

[rskinsfan10]

Pretty close there Mike on the prediction.

[LATrueRedskin]

Thorough whoopin by the Cavaliers.

[dj_stouty]

UVA dismantled the Tar Heels last week...and ended up climbing the AP rankings to 12th in the Nation behind ACC competitors Florida State and Miami.

The Wahoos unleashed their running attack again for 7 (yes 7) rushing touchdowns...3 coming from Lundi. The wierd part was that UVA's top TE (and the nation's top TE prospect for the pros) played without a single catch.

Next up? A soft Akron team. It should be a blow out.

[RedskinRyan]

boo virginia, go terps!

[Skaggsrules]

actually akron might be a closer then you think, but uva should beat them. Akron as a pretty good qb who can put points on the board against the young d-backs, but uva is still going to win by at least 14 pts.

[Skaggsrules]

well, i was wrong about it being close

[rskinsfan10]

Good solid win. You have to beat teams like this convincingly, and they did so.

[kastofsna]

Now why did VA have to be great the year Miami joins the ACC and has to play them on the road?? Unfair! :p Seriously, this team looks really good. I thought there would be a cooling-off period after Schaub's departure.

[dj_stouty]

UVA continues their winning streak by dominating Akron 51-0. They currently sit atop of the ACC standings and have solidified the nation's top 12 ranking.

Walli Lundy scored 3 rushing TDs for the third consecutive week. He now leads the country in points scored. (FYI: He leads the 2nd place guy by 15 points.)

The Cavs take on 2-1 Syracuse next weekend in Charlottesville. Look for the Cav's Defense to try and take over the game early. Syracuse may give them help, as they already have given up 5 INTS to their ONE passing TD.

I'm predicting another big blowout. The early line has UVA as a 24 point favorite. Should be a fun game to watch if you are a fan of the "right" blue and orange team. :D

[rskinsfan10]

I just don't see us beating Syracuse that badly. I hope we do, but I have an uneasiness about this game for some reason.

[tommahawk]

I just don't see us beating Syracuse that badly. I hope we do, but I have an uneasiness about this game for some reason.

I know what you mean it's like last week when the Skins went to NY. Syracuse has always had Va. # . In b-ball and football....GO Wahoos.

[rskinsfan10]

Well, they beat them by 21, but there were some anxious moments in the second half there. Good all around performance.

[dj_stouty]

Gotta love Hagans throwing 11 for 12 for over 200 yards and a passing TD, as well as 80 yards on the ground and 2 rushing TDs. Amazing...

Lundi scored his 10th rushing TD of the season, which I believe will continue to keep him as the nation's top scorer.

It sucks that Canty got hurt. It doesn't look good...

[rskinsfan10]

Canty is done for the year.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I went to the Syracuse game, and I gotta say, Hagans was incredible. Not just the running (although he was great at that), his throws were really, really impressive, especially when he was on the move. The boy's got a lot of talent.

[dj_stouty]

Well...the Cavs have the week off, so no UVA football report this week.

I'm looking forward to the Clemson game next Thursday, which we be broadcast on ESPN.

Clemson is on a 3-game losing streak, having been defeated by Georga Tech, Texas A&M and Florida State. Their bad luck will continue when the face the nation's 12th ranked powerhouse.....UVA!

[Skaggsrules]

UVA is in the top 10 finally

[dj_stouty]

UVA is in the top 10 finally

YES! They are the 9th ranked team in the nation...

The good news is that 6 of the 8 teams ahead of UVA are playing nationally ranked opponents. Assuming UVA destroys Clemson on Thursday, there is a good chance they will move up the rankings some more...

Don't forget folks...Clemson @ UVA on ESPN at 7:30pm.

[rskinsfan10]

I don't think that Clemson will be cakewalk. I liken them to the Cardinals when the Skins play them. Despite how bad the team may be, the games are usually close.

I'll be in front of the TV rooting for a blowout, so that we can gain some momentum heading into the Free Shoes University game. (Oh my GOD, now I'm quoting Krusty)

[dj_stouty]

I don't think that Clemson will be cakewalk. I liken them to the Cardinals when the Skins play them. Despite how bad the team may be, the games are usually close.

I'll be in front of the TV rooting for a blowout, so that we can gain some momentum heading into the Free Shoes University game. (Oh my GOD, now I'm quoting Krusty)

LOL...but look at the Skins overall record vs the Cards. (77-44) Not a cakewalk...but I think it will be a solid win for UVA. They are playing dominating football right now. They will have a big homefield advantage, considering the UVA students will be loud for the ESPN cameras.

I can't wait until Nov 6th when the Cavs host the Terpies.

[akhhorus]

I don't think that Clemson will be cakewalk. I liken them to the Cardinals when the Skins play them. Despite how bad the team may be, the games are usually close.

I'll be in front of the TV rooting for a blowout, so that we can gain some momentum heading into the Free Shoes University game. (Oh my GOD, now I'm quoting Krusty)

Virginia will mop the floor with Pickens A&M. Pickens cant run the ball, stop the run(they let up 378 yards rushing to Texas AM) and their "great" QB has 17 turnovers already(fumbles and INTs). They can only throw the deep ball well, but they dont protect the QB well. You dont know how happy this all makes me :)

[suppitty]

This team is the best in the nation. flat out. they have absolutedly dominated clemson. clemosn is lucky it isnt 35-10, and is instead 23-10 at this point. (12 mins left in game). Hagans could be like randel el if he gets a chance in the nfl. If not he will dominate canada.

[dj_stouty]

Big ACC win for UVA last night.

Aside from Clemson scoring on their first drive, UVA really locked them down defensively. It doesn't look like they missed Canty at all.

UVA is simply getting it done on the ground. Virginia is now 6th in the NCAA in rushing yards per game at 275. (Which is ranked higher than most of the "Option" teams are) UVA is also putting up big points offensively. They are 5th in the nation in scoring with 42.4 pts/game. (Lundi is 3rd in the nation in scoring, despite not scoring any points last night)

They have a nice long stretch to prepare for their game down at Florida State. This will be their first big test....but I think they are up for the challenge.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Did you see the number of counter plays the UVA ran?? It seemed like the 80's Redskins.

[padraic]

great game i was in the south endzone very good game

[rskinsfan10]

Did you see the number of counter plays the UVA ran?? It seemed like the 80's Redskins.

Yeah, big Elton and the boys were showing their athleticism last night. I absolutely love that offensive line.

[RoanokeSkin]

Ive been a season ticket holder at UVA for the last five years and I have never seen that many counter plays. Big E would sure as hell make a nice dirt bag dont you think?

We are the real deal this year. The only big question mark is still the secondary. We will find out what they are made of next week in Tallahassee.

[suppitty]

Yeah, big Elton and the boys were showing their athleticism last night. I absolutely love that offensive line.
I saw one play on a scrren on 3rd and long, and it was pearman and big e vs 2 clemosn defenders, and big e pancaked both at the same time, each with one hand.

[RoanokeSkin]

Up to #6. We have got to come out and lay the smack down on FSU in Tallahassee. They were not that impressive against Syracuse. If they play like they played the other night against UVA, it is going to be a butt whoopin.

[Dre-The-Great]

The Seminoles will whip up on the Cavs like they always do...45-13 FSU :sfight:

[funnyperson1]

The Seminoles will whip up on the Cavs like they always do...45-13 FSU :sfight:
No way there is that much domination by either team. I'm not sure who will win, but it will be by less than two touchdowns.

[RoanokeSkin]

The Seminoles will whip up on the Cavs like they always do...45-13 FSU :sfight:

I sure as hell hope not. As much as I love the Skins, I might be two or three times that for UVA. After watching the Skins go to 1-4 and the Braves get slammed on Mon. I might just jump off a cliff.

[Dre-The-Great]

lol i feel u roanoke...FSU is the only team that i root for that actually wins...Skins, Wizards, and Hoyas... :cry:

[rskinsfan10]

The Seminoles will whip up on the Cavs like they always do...45-13 FSU :sfight:

Umm, errrrr, ahhhhh, NO!!

[dj_stouty]

The Seminoles will whip up on the Cavs like they always do...45-13 FSU :sfight:

What do you mean; "Like they always do?" Yeah...maybe in 2002 and beyond...but last year, the Seminoles only won by 5 points.

The Noles barely beat a Syracuse team by 4 points last week. The same team UVA destroyed this year by 20.

But that is neither here nor there...this is 2004...and UVA is the 3rd ranked scoring team and the 5th ranked rushing offense in the entire NCAA. This isn't your father's UVA team...this is the real deal. There is a reason UVA jumped over FSU this week in the standings....and it will be justified in Tallahassee on Saturday...

BRING IT!

[Dre-The-Great]

12-1 is what i mean by they always do...but forget about the past. I'm not worried about that...saturday is a new day...and i agree that UVA is lookin better than past teams in recent memory but don't forget that they are coming to Doak Campbell this weekend...it should be an interesting game...i might have been exaggerating a bit with the 45-13 score but it will be something like 37-20 FSU :Peace:

[suppitty]

This isnt even close. UVA finally starting to move th ball inside 2 minutes. HAgans just made a phenomenal play on 3rd and 20. UVA has been burned by 5 yard facemaks.

[Dre-The-Great]

The Seminoles will whip up on the Cavs like they always do...45-13 FSU :sfight:

Off by 1 point in margin of victory

[BigCountry]

I didn't see the game but hopefully it was even uglier then what the scoreboard says. Looks like someone whiped the floor with the mighty Cavs tonight...

[rskinsfan10]

I didn't see the game but hopefully it was even uglier then what the scoreboard says. Looks like someone whiped the floor with the mighty Cavs tonight...

Why hope for this Uri? Does misery love company?

[Axegrinder]

For the Cavs it started as a game of missed opportunities!!!
Missed fieldgoal,momentum,tackles.....

[JoeDaSchmoe]

U-G-L-Y, they ain't got no alibi....

[rskinsfan10]

For the Cavs it started as a game of missed opportunities!!!
Missed fieldgoal,momentum,tackles.....
Indeed. I also don't understand Groh's decision to not use a TO with 13 secs left in the first half to be able to take two shots in the endzone instead on one. That didn'y cost us the game obviously, but it didn't make sense to me then, and it still doesn't.

[Axegrinder]

Indeed. I also don't understand Groh's decision to not use a TO with 13 secs left in the first half to be able to take two shots in the endzone instead on one. That didn'y cost us the game obviously, but it didn't make sense to me then, and it still doesn't.
That's a terrific point.Why settle for 3 pts.,when you're knocking on the door.
It was a hollow scoring opportunity.Besides,you can't take the timeouts with you.

[RoanokeSkin]

Off by 1 point in margin of victory


This will be my last post before I jump off a cliff. Somebody tell my wife I love her. :cry:

[rskinsfan10]

I hope that Hagans' injury isn't too bad. He seemed to have had his pride hurt more then anything when he was on the sideline last night.

Even still, he had a pretty decent night IMO.

[Axegrinder]

I hope that Hagans' injury isn't too bad. He seemed to have had his pride hurt more then anything when he was on the sideline last night.

Even still, he had a pretty decent night IMO.
He's a player!!!
Another of the Pride of Hampton,Virginia.
Vick,Aaron Brooks,Iverson,...

[rskinsfan10]

He's a player!!!
Another of the Pride of Hampton,Virginia.
Vick,Aaron Brooks,Iverson,...
Man, I almost forgot about Big E going down too. My happiness when he caught that pass turned to disgust when he was hit in the legs like that and didn't get up immediately.

[BigCountry]

Why hope for this Uri? Does misery love company?


Yeah and but at least Hokie fans didn't have any expectations and choke in the biggest game of the year.

[CarMike]

Uh, the Hokies won't have any big games this year. But I do believe that the Hokies have been choke artists in the past....Just about every year for past 3-5 years. Losing atleast one game a year that they shouldn't. It seemed to happen when they were ranked in the top 10 too....

[funnyperson1]

As much as it pains me to admit CarMike is right. Sure we beat Miami last year, but losses to WVU, BC and Pitt should not have happened.

[rskinsfan10]

Yeah and but at least Hokie fans didn't have any expectations and choke in the biggest game of the year.

Sooo, the Cavs fans are wrong to have expectations? Hmm, okay.

I'll refer to the two previous posts in regards to Tech's previous choke jobs.

[dj_stouty]

Sooo, the Cavs fans are wrong to have expectations? Hmm, okay.

I'll refer to the two previous posts in regards to Tech's previous choke jobs.

I know first hand that the Hokie faithfull had just as many pre-season expectations (if not more) than the UVA fanbase.

[CarMike]

ACC football appears to be a little stronger than the Big East....;)

[funnyperson1]

I would say that so far VT has met or exceeded the expectations of most fans. I though we might have had a chance against USC, but most thought it would be a 40 point game. We lost to NC State because our kicker sucked. Other than that its been a pretty good season.

Is the ACC a lot more challenging than the Big East? Yes, but the Hokies can handle it.

An away game at GT scares me a bit, but UNC and UMD are both games we should win. As far as UVA and Miami, we've been playing them every year for as long as I can remember, nothing new there.

Anyways I look forward to the VT-UVA game, hopefully I'll be able to get a ticket, and good luck against Miami I hope you crush them.

[Dre-The-Great]

Anyways I look forward to the VT-UVA game, hopefully I'll be able to get a ticket, and good luck against Miami I hope you crush them.

Yea I hope UVA can crush them to since its something we can't seem to do lol

[funnyperson1]

Yea I hope UVA can crush them to since its something we can't seem to do lol

I hear you, although VT can crush them, but only in Lane Stadium. The Orange bowl is a heck of a place to travel to.

edit: I do think that FSU will beat Miami in the next couple years, they just needed to get the Rix monkey off their back.

[Dre-The-Great]

edit: I do think that FSU will beat Miami in the next couple years, they just needed to get the Rix monkey off their back.

I totally agree

[dj_stouty]

It is shamefull to allow this great thread to fall to the 2nd page of this forum! ;)

UVA controlled the entire tempo of their game versus the rival Terpies...holding onto their share of 1st place in the ACC. UVA jumps up to #11 in the nation, one spot ahead of the Florida State Seminoles.


UVA remains #1 in the ACC in rushing and scoring.

Next up....MIAMI!

[TheBigGame]

It is shamefull to allow this great thread to fall to the 2nd page of this forum! ;)

UVA controlled the entire tempo of their game versus the rival Terpies...holding onto their share of 1st place in the ACC. UVA jumps up to #11 in the nation, one spot ahead of the Florida State Seminoles.


UVA remains #1 in the ACC in rushing and scoring.

Next up....MIAMI!
i think they have a pretty good chance of beating Miami, especially since Miami has been blowing some games like the one with UNC and some of the games theyve played, they havent really looked like the true Miami team. If UVA can put it all together, rushing and passing, then they have a huge chance of winning. And seriously i could see a 3 game streak going after this last win, they have a chance to beat the Canes and i know they can dominate the Hokies this year, they just cant get it going this season. UVA is definately gonna finish strong and hopefully 1st in the ACC.

[funnyperson1]

UVA should beat Miami because it is a home game, and Miami's D couldn't stop JMU's offensive attack at this point, let alone UVa's rushing attack. On the other hand Miami will not overlook UVA as they did with UNC and Clemson and should come out fired up and ready to play in this big game.

I wouldn't be so sure of dominating the Hokies, Blacksburg hasn't been kind to UVA in recent history with Tech winning the last two and 3 of the last 4.

[rskinsfan10]

We have to start winning these big games if we want others to respect us. Miami in C-ville is a huge game. If we seriously are contenders for the crown, this game needs to be won, period.

[GibbsRules!]

Much as I hate to do it, gotta give props to the Hoos. Terps were overwhelmed by the run...they will learn from this as they are young. Coach Fridge will have a payback session in order! Again, Congrats!

[Ramsey2Moss]

I personally don't care who wins this UVA-Miami game. Probably Miami, just because then Tech would be alone in the ACC lead, but if UVA wins then whoever wins the battle at Blacksburg gets the ACC most likely, because Miami is done with three ACC losses.

[RoanokeSkin]

We have to start winning these big games if we want others to respect us. Miami in C-ville is a huge game. If we seriously are contenders for the crown, this game needs to be won, period.


Well said my fellow Hoo brother

[dj_stouty]

Alright guys...this is the biggest game of the year. UVA is virtually unstoppable at home, and they face a Miami team that I don't believe has lived up to the hype of past Miami teams.

3:30 game time....should be a great day for football.

[RoanokeSkin]

We are just choke artists. We can never win he big games. I dont know why we even tried kicking to these guys. Being there, you just got the feeling that if we kept it up they were going to take one to the house.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Why is anybody surprised that UVA lost? I suspected UVA was somewhat
overrated (particularly on D ) and I was proven correct. UVA dominates
the weak and average teams but when it's time to step up.....well, you see
the results.

[funnyperson1]

I thought that UVA would win but I wasn't really suprised they lost. One thing I said on a College Football message board before UVA played FSU was that UVAs schedule this year reminded me of Tech's schedule last year.

The first 6 games were filled with crappy teams, team that were supposed to be good, but sucked, and overrated teams. Truth is that UVA hasn't beaten a good team this year and they just didn't have the speed and power to keep up with Miami and FSU.

[dj_stouty]

UVA got back on track by beating Georgia Tech pretty easily today. The running game and the passing games were on. I've havent' seen that many UVA passes go to WRs like that all year...

Virginia Tech could be the spoiler this year. Tech plays Miami this weekend, so a Hokie win would open it wide open. UVA must win against Virginia Tech in two weeks to grab a share of the ACC title. If it is a tiebreaker, whoever is ranked higher in the BCS will get the BCS bowl birth. Florida State losing to Florida today is huge.

Basically, the fate of the Sugar Bowl is in the hands of Va Tech...

[RoanokeSkin]

UVA got back on track by beating Georgia Tech pretty easily today. The running game and the passing games were on. I've havent' seen that many UVA passes go to WRs like that all year...

Virginia Tech could be the spoiler this year. Tech plays Miami this weekend, so a Hokie win would open it wide open. UVA must win against Virginia Tech in two weeks to grab a share of the ACC title. If it is a tiebreaker, whoever is ranked higher in the BCS will get the BCS bowl birth. Florida State losing to Florida today is huge.

Basically, the fate of the Sugar Bowl is in the hands of Va Tech...

Virginia and Virginia Tech play this coming weekend. Tech goes to Miami the following week. If Tech wins out, they win the conference. If UVA beats Tech and then Tech beats Miami, Virginia will win the conference (due to tiebreaker being highest BCS spot). If Miami beats Tech, Miami will win the conference.

GO HOOS!!!

[RedHokieSkin]

All 3 teams were impressive this past weekend. These next two weeks are going to be very interesting. LETS GO HOKIES!

[RoanokeSkin]

LETS GO HOKIES!

This is the wrong thread for this kind of BS!!! :)

[RedHokieSkin]

This is the wrong thread for this kind of BS!!! :)

Oops...sorry 'bout that. I'd like to congratulate the Hoosiers...no wait, the Hoos from Hooville...no....the Hoosiwhatsits...the Hoos your daddys?... on a good season. ;)

In all seriousness though, what're you guys thoughts on bowl possibilties for UVA? I hear that they may decline the Tangerine Bowl because it's played on the last day of exams. Any truth to that? If you do decline it, what other invitations might you receive?

[RoanokeSkin]

We are going to Boise for the MPC Computer bowl. We are declining the Champs Sports Bowl because the game is on Dec. 21st, which is the last day of exams. What a crappy year....

[funnyperson1]

UVA's year is eerily similar to ours last year. I had pointed out on a college football forum before UVA played FSU that UVAs schedule last year reflected ours in the first 5-6 games.

You played some creampuffs and beat them handily but lost to all the decent teams you played.

The year wasn't that crappy, you could have been say Boston College who might end up in the Fort Worth Bowl after only having to beat 'Cuse for the BCS.

[dj_stouty]

Pack your bags....the Cavs are heading to Boise.

The No. 18 Virginia Cavaliers accepted an invitation yesterday to play in the MPC Computers Bowl in Boise, Idaho on Dec. 27 at 2 p.m., according to an official statement from the Virginia Athletics Office. A formal announcement of Virginia's opponent for the bowl game is expected today, though the opponent will likely be Fresno State from the Western Athletic Conference.

Negotiations over the last few days between the MPC Bowl, the Atlantic Coast Conference and the Big East Conference that aimed to send the Cavaliers to the Independence Bowl in Shreveport, La. did not result in a final agreement. The ACC sought to accommodate Virginia's decision not to play during final exams from Dec. 13 to 21, which would have prevented the Cavaliers from attending the Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando, Fla. on Dec. 21.


Looks like UVA and Fresno State. UGH...

I was hoping for the Independence Bowl versus Oaklahoma State.

[rskinsfan10]

Who in the world wants to go to Boise?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Who in the world wants to go to Boise?

Beautiful scenery up there..........

[rskinsfan10]

Beautiful scenery up there..........

I'm sure it is, and I'm not being sarcastic.

However, I'm a little more then an hours drive away from beautiful scenery heading west towards W. Va. from my home now. I need a little more then that if I plan to travel to support my team.

[dj_stouty]

http://i.cnn.net/si/images/football/ncaa/logos/virginia_100.gif Vs. http://i.cnn.net/si/images/football/ncaa/logos/fresnost_100.gif

Less than 2 weeks away from the "big game" against Fresno State on the blue football field. Here is what the "experts" are saying:

TREV ALBERTS - ESPN.COM - This game could not be more important for either team. Fresno was the preseason pick as this year's BCS buster but faltered midway through the season and a win here would prove the Bulldogs can play with the big boys. Virginia is still striving to become an elite team and the Cavaliers have to win this one to get there. If they are motivated on both sides of the ball -- and there's no reason they shouldn't be -- the Cavs will just be too strong.

MPC Computers Bowl Breakdown by Pat Forde
Who to watch
The running backs. Fresno State's duo of Bryson Sumlin and Wendell Mathis have combined for 25 TDs while Virginia's Wali Lundy and Alvin Pearman lead the nation's 12th-best rushing attack.
What to watch
The Virginia offensive line. Led by Elton Brown, the Cavaliers actually make watching the line fun.
Why to watch
Hey, nothing's cooler than watching a bowl game on a blue field.

TEAM STATISTICAL LEADERS
Virginia......................................Fres no State
PAS Marques Hagans-1862 yds..... Paul Pinegar-1864 yds
RSH Alvin Pearman-985 yds ..........Bryson Sumlin-1010 yds
REC Heath Miller-475 yds .............Joe Fernandez-474 yds

Insider edge: Fresno State vs. Virginia
Fresno State has the balance on offense to hang tough, but Virginia' superior talent will make the difference.

SportsIllustrated Ranks the Bowl Games 1-28
16. MPC Computers (Dec. 27): Virginia (8-3) vs. Fresno State (8-3). For taking a stand in honor of academics (passing on the Champs Sports Bowl), the Cavs get rewarded with a trip to Boise. The Bulldogs are happy to be going somewhere besides San Jose.

BOISE, Idaho (Ticker) -- CNNSI.Com
Fresno State hopes to play like it did late in the season when it meets No. 18 Virginia in the MPC Computers Bowl. The Bulldogs (8-3) had a streaky regular season, winning their three non-conference games, then opening Western Athletic Conference play with three straight losses before concluding their slate with five consecutive wins. Fresno State averaged an astounding 56 points during its five-game winning streak, including an average of 62 points in its last three games, vs. Hawaii and Nevada and at San Jose State. Overall, the Bulldogs rank fifth in the nation in scoring this season (40.42).

From CollegeFootballNews.com
0. MPC Computers Bowl, Dec. 27, ESPN 2:00… Fresno State vs. Virginia
Virginia and Fresno State actually pushed to go play in the cold weather. Virginia didn’t want the bowl to mess with finals while Fresno State was sick of the Silicon Valley Classic. Since Boise State isn’t playing, the Bulldogs might have a chance.
Stars of the show: Virginia LB Ahmad Brooks, Fresno State RBs Wendell Mathis and Bryson Sumlin
The knee jerk, off-the-cuff initial prediction: Virginia 38 … Fresno State 17

[funnyperson1]

Yea, UVA should crush Fresno, I don't think that Fresno has played a defense anywhere near UVA's level this year, and offensively they will get shut down. Then its up to pearman and co. to run all over them.

[rskinsfan10]

Not that they wouldn't have eventually scored a TD, but that TE for Fresno was clearly down at about the 1yd line when they said that he scored that TD in OT. Anything could have happened. I just don't like for games to be decided by sorry officiating.

It shouldn't have come down to that though. Our D didn't step up when we needed them the most late in the game.

[Axegrinder]

I missed the game,so I hate to ask this question,but where were the LB's [who were regarded as arguably the best group in the nation]?

[CarMike]

No surprise here...

But a couple of my friends who are UVA fans are calling for Grohs head...lol

They are saying that its evident he can't win the "big" game....

Why are fans so impatient? Same goes for our beloved Redskin fans. Groh has built UVA into a good team. Give it time and they become a great team. How would firing Groh hurry up that process? Just don't understand some fans...

[dj_stouty]

But a couple of my friends who are UVA fans are calling for Grohs head...lol

They are saying that its evident he can't win the "big" game....

Tell your friends...Prior to the MPC Computer Bowl, Groh has won the last two Bowl Games he coached. One against WVU and one against Pitt. Both were "big games"...

It was a tough loss...

[CarMike]

Tell your friends...Prior to the MPC Computer Bowl, Groh has won the last two Bowl Games he coached. One against WVU and one against Pitt. Both were "big games"...

It was a tough loss...

I'll pass it on Mark. I suppose its a "What have you done for me lately" kind of thinking.

They were mainly talking about the FSU and Miami games. Heck, did you guys even play both teams this year? Not sure...

[dj_stouty]

I'm bumping this thread, because today UVA wipes the slate clean, forgets about the Pitt game, and starts playing some damn football!

Go Hoos!

Anyone going to the game today in C'ville? I'm leaving now for some pre-game bar crawling!

[Keino]

UVA Sucks!!!!!

[Skaggsrules]

Kevin McCabe for Heisman

[dj_stouty]

Whew....it was a close win, but I'll take it.

Next week: Homecoming vs. W. Michigan.

[Keino]

LOL....13-12 Victory against Wyoming.......Overtime at that.......

If UVA snffs .500 this year that will be an accomplishment.

[Skaggsrules]

If Christian Olsen starts, then it will be an accomplishment to be .500, if McCabe plays or even mix in some Sewell, they will be fine for an 8 win year

[Keino]

If Christian Olsen starts, then it will be an accomplishment to be .500, if McCabe plays or even mix in some Sewell, they will be fine for an 8 win year

I'll bet $10,000 that UVA won't have an 8 win year...I don't care who starts.

[Skaggsrules]

between today and the end of october, GT is the only team that scares me, mainly because we play at GT, but UVa's D is starting to gel....If Uva's O-line starts to gel during W.Michagan allowing the running game to take pressure off the starting QB, GT shouldn't be a problem, GT played over their heads against ND, and ND didn't come to play. I'm banking on UVa to lose to FSU, Miami and VT though

[redskin_rich]

If UVA snffs .500 this year that will be an accomplishment.I could say the same for UMD...

[dj_stouty]

LOL....13-12 Victory against Wyoming.......Overtime at that.......

If UVA snffs .500 this year that will be an accomplishment.

Talk to me as soon as you can defeat a D1-AA school by 2 touchdowns or more.

The Twerps should have destroyed W&M...And Wyoming isn't a cake school...they actually plays in a conference with fairly good football programs like Utah, Airforce and BYU.

Anyway...you got your wish. You get WVU tonight. Twerps are 2 TD underdogs and that isn't stopping 75% of the betting world from still taking the Mnt'eers.

[Keino]

I could say the same for UMD...

Sounds like a bet you want to make.........Here are 2 things I know will happen:

1. UMD will have a better record than UVA

2. UMD will go at least 6-6


I'll bet anything on those 2 events occurring.

[dj_stouty]

Sounds like a bet you want to make.........Here are 2 things I know will happen:

1. UMD will have a better record than UVA

2. UMD will go at least 6-6


I'll bet anything on those 2 events occurring.

TAke him up on it, Rich. This is the guy who bet me that Trung Canidate would get 28 touches a game!

[redskin_rich]

Sounds like a bet you want to make.........Here are 2 things I know will happen:

1. UMD will have a better record than UVA

2. UMD will go at least 6-6


I'll bet anything on those 2 events occurring.
I'll take that bet.

[Keino]

Talk to me as soon as you can defeat a D1-AA school by 2 touchdowns or more.

The Twerps should have destroyed W&M...And Wyoming isn't a cake school...they actually plays in a conference with fairly good football programs like Utah, Airforce and BYU.

Anyway...you got your wish. You get WVU tonight. Twerps are 2 TD underdogs and that isn't stopping 75% of the betting world from still taking the Mnt'eers.


Both of our wins were by at least 2 TD's. And please, spare me the Wyoming Hype. A near miss against those bums at home is craptacular. TCU is the only team in that conference that is ranked......

But wait, you 're bashing the schedule, yet at the same time pointing out that they are underdogs on the road against the #5 team in the country. Hmmmmmm. Which is it? Does UVA play anyone ranked as high that MD doesn't play?

[Keino]

TAke him up on it, Rich. This is the guy who bet me that Trung Canidate would get 28 touches a game!

22.....

[Keino]

I'll take that bet.

Name the terms.......and Since DJ is so confident, he should get in on this action too.

[redskin_rich]

Name the terms.......and Since DJ is so confident, he should get in on this action too.
Let me think on it or if DJ wants to get in too, maybe we can both come up with something.

Friedgen has more chins than he will have wins. :moon2:

[Keino]

Let me think on it or if DJ wants to get in too, maybe we can both come up with something.

Friedgen has more chins than he will have wins. :moon2:

Yea and what Major bowl has Al Groh made it to again? Music City Bowl, Continental Tire Bowl and MPC Computer Bowl are not major bowls. I'll take Chins plus Orange, Peach and Gator Bowl appearances any day of the week (With lopsided wins in the latter 2)

[redskin_rich]

Yea and what Major bowl has Al Groh made it to again? Music City Bowl, Continental Tire Bowl and MPC Computer Bowl are not major bowls. I'll take Chins plus Orange, Peach and Gator Bowl appearances any day of the week (With lopsided wins in the latter 2)
You'd think Tubby would be recruiting better after having made those Bowl appearances years ago.

[Keino]

You'd think Tubby would be recruiting better after having made those Bowl appearances years ago.

You would think Ally G would have better results given his "stellar" recruiting. I guess one is a better coach than the other.......their records indicate that anyways....

[dj_stouty]

Both of our wins were by at least 2 TD's.

Not true. You beat D-1-AA William & Mary by 13 and you beat Middle Tenn State by 14.

And please, spare me the Wyoming Hype. A near miss against those bums at home is craptacular. TCU is the only team in that conference that is ranked......

It wasn't pretty,but it was a win regardless..especially when they lost their season opener. Wyoming plays in a fairly competitive division...and I was just noting that playing a team in a conference with TCU, Utah, Airforce and BYU isn't a cakewalk compared to a D1-AA team.

But wait, you 're bashing the schedule, yet at the same time pointing out that they are underdogs on the road against the #5 team in the country. Hmmmmmm. Which is it? Does UVA play anyone ranked as high that MD doesn't play?

Which is it? I'm making two separate points. One...UMD should have beated W&M by more than 2 TDs...and two, UMD is a major underdog tonight, and despite being a 14 point underdog, the betting world still thinks they can't cover. I can't wait to watch them get exposed by playing an actual team.

UMD plays 4 (currenlty) ranked teams and UVA plays 3 (currently) ranked teams on their respective schedules. That could change at any given time. But for argument's sake, NO, UVA doesn't play anyone ranked 5th...and considering WVU has one of the cupcake schedules in football, they will most likely stay top 5 all year.

I'm pretty confident both teams will be 2-1 after this weekend.

[dj_stouty]

Keino - Remind us which bowl UMD went to last season?

[Keino]

Not true. You beat D-1-AA William & Mary by 13 and you beat Middle Tenn State by 14.



It wasn't pretty,but it was a win regardless..especially when they lost their season opener. Wyoming plays in a fairly competitive division...and I was just noting that playing a team in a conference with TCU, Utah, Airforce and BYU isn't a cakewalk compared to a D1-AA team.



Which is it? I'm making two separate points. One...UMD should have beated W&M by more than 2 TDs...and two, UMD is a major underdog tonight, and despite being a 14 point underdog, the betting world still thinks they can't cover. I can't wait to watch them get exposed by playing an actual team.

UMD plays 4 (currenlty) ranked teams and UVA plays 3 (currently) ranked teams on their respective schedules. That could change at any given time. But for argument's sake, NO, UVA doesn't play anyone ranked 5th...and considering WVU has one of the cupcake schedules in football, they will most likely stay top 5 all year.

I'm pretty confident both teams will be 2-1 after this weekend.

If you want to quibble and say winning by 13 points isn't winning by 2 TD's feel free to do so. I left my axe at home today so I won't be splitting those hairs with you. But here's a thought, maybe the team wanted to play some inexperienced players while playing a team that for the most part won't help them come BCS standings time given that that particular game will be thrown out of consideration.

Pointing out that Wyoming plays in a decent conference doesn't validate them as an opponent. Hell Temple played in a decent conference, that doesn't make them a quality opponent.

As for the Schedule, again, I point out that UMD plays Clemson (who last week was ranked before losing in overtime to BC in Boston) while UVA gets the Mighty Duke Blue Devils who let a 3rd string resdshirt QB from Wake Forest March up the field on them. It's laughable to think/argue that UVA plays a tougher schedule based on 2 cupcakes being lesser cupcakes than the cupcakes that UVA plays.

[Keino]

Keino - Remind us which bowl UMD went to last season?

As soon as you can name the last Major Bowl UVA went to......(Here's a hint, we were in High School when it happenned)

[redskin_rich]

You would think Ally G would have better results given his "stellar" recruiting. I guess one is a better coach than the other.......their records indicate that anyways....
Actually, I'm not going to argue that. I'm not a fan of Groh and fat boy is a better coach. I just have a disdain for UMD and a good portion of their Cowboy-esque fanbase that loves showing their pride when the team is winning but goes into hibernation the rest of the time.

I'll be back later to discuss the terms of our bet, I'm thinking something potable. ;)

[Keino]

Actually, I'm not going to argue that. I'm not a fan of Groh and fat boy is a better coach. I just have a disdain for UMD and a good portion of their Cowboy-esque fanbase that loves showing their pride when the team is winning but goes into hibernation the rest of the time.

I'll be back later to discuss the terms of our bet, I'm thinking something potable. ;)

Just because we have riots when we win something, there is no reason to be uncivil about it and call us "Cowboy-esque". As you see, I am here defending my Terrapins.

[dj_stouty]

I see West Virginia covered the spread in the first 4.5 minutes. ;) Gotta love that Slayton kid. Too bad Fridge recinded his scholarship to the kid. *dolp*

I wasn't in high school in 1998. That is when UVA was in the Peach Bowl. ;)

UVA has been to 7 Bowl games in 8 years...compared to 2 bowl games for the Terps over those 8 years.

And to answer my own question, since you wouldn't: Maryland's last bowl game was in '03...

[dj_stouty]

I'm pretty confident both teams will be 2-1 after this weekend.

I'll call myself out on this one.

What an embarrasment.

First they start their 2nd string QB. (Who admittingly is probably the best) Then they bench him in the 2nd quarter for the 1st string QB, then they bench him for the 3rd string QB for the entire 2nd half! What the heck is going on? You won't win playing 3 quaterbacks a game...

[Patrick]

OK VA fans ........ so what's the deal tonight - any good input on playing GT???

[dj_stouty]

OK VA fans ........ so what's the deal tonight - any good input on playing GT???

I'll give you some input.

Bet on Georgia Tech -16.5. LMAO

Groh just announced that the QB who was 3rd on the depth chart (Jameel Sewel) will now be the starter. He was supposedly the better of the 3 QBs from the W. Michigan game, and that isn't saying much since they all stunk it up, IMO.

This Sewell kid is a lot like Marques Hagans (scrambler) than Schaub (tall pocket passer) yet much more raw than either of those two. (And a freshman to boot!) On a nicer note, he is a Richmond kid. Gotta love when the local kids get a shot.

If UVA is going to upset a team it will be at home (like the FSU game last year). No chance they pull one out in Atlanta on National TV.

[Skaggsrules]

If Marcus Hamiliton doesn't play, then there goes the slim chance of the upset....I'm still mad that Groh pulled McCabe, yeah 2 big int's....but 13 of 16, c'mon, don't pull a guy for that, especially when you pull him for Christian Olsen.

[RoanokeSkin]

The best I think us UVA fans can hope for is a 3-9 season. That is truly a sad day. We have slipped from our normal state of mediocre to the likes of Duke and UNC.

[dj_stouty]

The best I think us UVA fans can hope for is a 3-9 season. That is truly a sad day. We have slipped from our normal state of mediocre to the likes of Duke and UNC.

Hopefully they can win more than 3, but who knows...this offense is more anemic than the Skins' offense.

I'm not sure what to think of the QB situation. Groh is starting his 3rd string red-shirt freshman QB as early as the 4th game of the season?!?!?!

What do you think of Sewell? Is this the guy we should expect to see quarterback the offense for the next 3 seasons?

[CarMike]

The best I think us UVA fans can hope for is a 3-9 season. That is truly a sad day. We have slipped from our normal state of mediocre to the likes of Duke and UNC.
OUCH! Atleast you have basketball season to fall back on...Ooops, thats right.

Well, womens basketball...

[dj_stouty]

OUCH! Atleast you have basketball season to fall back on...Ooops, thats right.

Well, womens basketball...

UVA is great at Lacrosse ('06 NCAA National Champs) and Soccer.(Currently ranked 2nd in Nation)

Hopefully those clubs can spread some of the love towards the football and basketball teams. :D

[CarMike]

UVA is great at Lacrosse ('06 NCAA National Champs) and Soccer.(Currently ranked 2nd in Nation)

Hopefully those clubs can spread some of the love towards the football and basketball teams. :D
I didn't know about the LAX championship. congrats! I knew at one point UVA had the best mens soccer program in the country.

It rubbed me the wrong way to compare UNC football team to dooks. that's all. lol

[CarMike]

Ironic. The TarPit is having a discussion about this topic as we speak...

http://mb23.scout.com/finsidecarolinafrm10.showMessage?topicID=43139.top ic

[dj_stouty]

I didn't know about the LAX championship. congrats! I knew at one point UVA had the best mens soccer program in the country.

It rubbed me the wrong way to compare UNC football team to dooks. that's all. lol

I don't blame you...UNC's football program has gotten progressively better each of the last few seasons.

I'm not sure what to think of them this year...especially after the Furman game. Not sure how Furman got 40+ points on them..

[CarMike]

I don't blame you...UNC's football program has gotten progressively better each of the last few seasons.

I'm not sure what to think of them this year...especially after the Furman game. Not sure how Furman got 40+ points on them..
Our coaches couldn't defend the option. Which is very sad IMO. You're a college coach and you can't stop the option? They should have covered that during the week of practice heading up to the game...

[CarMike]

I meant that they didn't make adjustment to stop the option....

[Keino]

OUCH! Atleast you have basketball season to fall back on...Ooops, thats right.

Well, womens basketball...


LOL. They don't even really have that......

MD-Duke was the final last year. How bout dem Lady Terps?

[CarMike]

LOL. They don't even really have that......

MD-Duke was the final last year. How bout dem Lady Terps?
Yep, National Champs!

AND, the only team to beat the Lady Heels last year. I think.

[dj_stouty]

I was at the UVA/UMD game and the ending was very dissapointing. This was even worse than the homecoming loss to W. Michigan!

UVA up 20-0 at halftime and an entirely different team took the field for the 2nd half.

My wife couldnt' go so I went by myself...and traded my 2 tixs to a scapler for a single seat in the front row of the endzone. When Sewell threw the pick-6...he tried to chase down the defender and ended up running out of bounds directly in front of my seat. I screamed; "SHAKE IT OFF!". I guess he didn't hear me. lol

Keino - in hindsight, I'm glad you didn't take me up on the offer for the ticket. I would have talked so much smack at 1/2time that you would have killed me when the game ended in favor of the Terps.

[CarMike]

dj, you have a guarenteed win coming this Thursday! We suck so bad its not even funny.

I'll go ahead and congratulate early. you'll win by double digits easily.

[dj_stouty]

dj, you have a guarenteed win coming this Thursday! We suck so bad its not even funny.

I'll go ahead and congratulate early. you'll win by double digits easily.

I'm not so sure. Our QB is raw...and he wasn't even supposed to see the field until next year. He is a liability right now....

Regardless....its nice to see our teams on National TV! (Even if most of the country doesn't want to watch a sloppy game...lol)

[CarMike]

I'm not so sure. Our QB is raw...and he wasn't even supposed to see the field until next year. He is a liability right now....

Regardless....its nice to see our teams on National TV! (Even if most of the country doesn't want to watch a sloppy game...lol)
AMEN to that.

We are starting a redshirt freshman QB. He looks good for a while then he'll make a stupid throw. Our defense sucks big time. We allowed the only team we beat, Furman, a pretty good D1-AA team over 450+ yards. They put up 42 points on us. Somehow we scored 45.

Coastal Carolina held Furman to 27 points I think. Plus, we haven't won in Charlottesvill since 1981. Everything is stacked against us.

[Skaggsrules]

I don't know about the rest of the Wahoos, but Sewell has me excited for next year...also the O-line seems to be geling, so with all of them returning next year, I'm like the situation, especially if the ACC is down again.

[smoot]

I don't know about the rest of the Wahoos, but Sewell has me excited for next year...also the O-line seems to be geling, so with all of them returning next year, I'm like the situation, especially if the ACC is down again.
i'll say this for uva football, they sure make for an exciting game. that comeback last week was amazing to watch

[ChapelHillMatt]

UNC is so horrible.

And you folks think our Redskins have problems.

Wow, I'm depressed.

[CarMike]

I don't know about the rest of the Wahoos, but Sewell has me excited for next year...also the O-line seems to be geling, so with all of them returning next year, I'm like the situation, especially if the ACC is down again.
I wouldn't get to happy. You were playing UNC last night. :)

Honestly, we are a horrible, horrible football team. We made Furman look like Southern Cal.

[dj_stouty]

The one UVA homegame I can't attend this season is the best of the year. Grrr....

Herbstreit (sp?) called Sewell a "future superstar" three times during the game last night. Although that may be a bit premature, the kid has really progressed in the last 4 weeks. He had a great game despite turning 19 years old last night. And that great peformance could have been stellar had his receivers not dropped 5 passes last night. I guess we have something to look forward to for the next three years. They keep comparing him to Marques Hagans, but I believe Sewell actually has passing ability.

It was nice to see Chris Long get some attention. I enjoyed seeing the isolated camera shots of him stopping the run and putting pressure on the QB. Soon, he will start getting attention for his play and not his last name.

If anything, UNC fans should be happy with the running from McGill. That guy has a motor...and continually got extra yardage with 2nd and 3rd efforts. Too bad he is a senior...

[Skaggsrules]

I won't call Sewell a future superstar unless he performs well against Tech and FSU's D's......He's like Hagans, but I think Hagans was an athlete who could throw, while Sewell is a passer who is athletic, he's a promising player

[ChapelHillMatt]

If anything, UNC fans should be happy with the running from McGill. That guy has a motor...and continually got extra yardage with 2nd and 3rd efforts. Too bad he is a senior...

You said it, hard to get excited about him when he's a senior. He runs hard and I love him for it but he has no stamina at all and is always hurt.

I'd say he's been a dissapointment.

That being said, he was the only bright spot last night.

[CarMike]

You said it, hard to get excited about him when he's a senior. He runs hard and I love him for it but he has no stamina at all and is always hurt.

I'd say he's been a dissapointment.

That being said, he was the only bright spot last night.
Yeah, and even he had a crucial turnover of one of our first drives

[Skaggsrules]

Any Wahoos out there think we can take one of the last three games we have?

[dj_stouty]

Any Wahoos out there think we can take one of the last three games we have?

There are four games left...

This week's game (which is at noon. I HATE going to noon games) will depend on which Wolfpack team shows up. The Wolfpack plays well against ranked opponents (Beating BC and FSU) and then they lay down against lesser teams. (Lost to Akron and So. Miss) I think Sewell is getting better every game and will play decent against NCS, but it will depend on if the UVA defense can limit their rushing game. Their RB tandem is avergaing 5.4 ypc. I'd like to see Snelling get the ball early and often to set a tone for the game.

If they are going to sneak a win against any of the last three opponents, it will probably be the lone home game against Miami. UVA has a tendency to beat better opponents at home (right,FSU? ;)) and I dont' see them going into FSU or VT and winning.

Unfortunately, 5-7 is the best this team can do...

[CarMike]

UVA>NCSU

[dj_stouty]

UVA>NCSU

:beer:

[CarMike]

:beer:

:beer: Right back at ya dj! lol

[smoot]

UVA>NCSU
:crazy:

[Keino]

If UVA snffs .500 this year that will be an accomplishment.


Sounds like a bet you want to make.........Here are 2 things I know will happen:

1. UMD will have a better record than UVA

2. UMD will go at least 6-6


I'll bet anything on those 2 events occurring.


Unfortunately, 5-7 is the best this team can do...

All of these quotes taken together make me smile. I bet someone is glad they didn't make this bet.

[smoot]

All of these quotes taken together make me smile. I bet someone is glad they didn't make this bet.
UMD at 5-2 is sitting awfull pretty

[dj_stouty]

All of these quotes taken together make me smile. I bet someone is glad they didn't make this bet.

Yup. No doubt...

But there is a good chance UMD loses the rest of their games....so don't pat yourself on calling their record just yet.

[dj_stouty]

UMD at 5-2 is sitting awfull pretty

Yeah...and Keino will brag about their bid to the ToiletBowl game in Hurtingsville, Arkansas, despite making fun of UVA's recent bowl games. ;)

[smoot]

Yeah...and Keino will brag about their bid to the ToiletBowl game in Hurtingsville, Arkansas, despite making fun of UVA's recent bowl games. ;)
sorry, but i'd rather go to the toilet bowl than end the season 3-9 like UVA is likely to do

[dj_stouty]

sorry, but i'd rather go to the toilet bowl than end the season 3-9 like UVA is likely to do

I agree. I'm making the point that Keino made fun of UVA's recent bowl appearances (non-BCS)...despite UMD not making one for a while.

[smoot]

I agree. I'm making the point that Keino made fun of UVA's recent bowl appearances (non-BCS)...despite UMD not making one for a while.
2 years isnt that long. but i agree with you, a bowl is a bowl. if you dont go to one, you have no room to talk

[dj_stouty]

2 years isnt that long.

It is when the coach of that team is the former consensus national Coach of the Year.

[redskin_rich]

All of these quotes taken together make me smile. I bet someone is glad they didn't make this bet.
I made the bet, we didn't set the terms. You still need one more win and there are no pushovers left.
So what is it that you want...er, I mean what is the bet for?

[dj_stouty]

I made the bet, we didn't set the terms. You still need one more win and there are no pushovers left.
So what is it that you want...er, I mean what is the bet for?

Its too late for him to "call the prize" after the fact.

[Keino]

Its too late for him to "call the prize" after the fact.


Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. We entered a bet. Someone (Ahem) wasn't even in on the bet even though he was begged to get in on the action. I think that disqualifies a certain person's opinion on the issue.

[Keino]

2 years isnt that long. but i agree with you, a bowl is a bowl. if you dont go to one, you have no room to talk


Exactly Smoot. Would you rather be 3 years removed from your third straight BCS Bowl or 8 years removed from your one and only BCS bowl (Well Im not even sure the BCS was in place, but it would now be considered a BCS bowl).

BTW - I think we will beat Wake Forest at home. Stouty needs to worry about beating NC State, the very feat the Terps accomplished last week. Maybe you UVA boys need to add William and Mary to your schedule so you can tune up for the likes of Western Michigan.........

[smoot]

Exactly Smoot. Would you rather be 3 years removed from your third straight BCS Bowl or 8 years removed from your one and only BCS bowl (Well Im not even sure the BCS was in place, but it would now be considered a BCS bowl).

BTW - I think we will beat Wake Forest at home. Stouty needs to worry about beating NC State, the very feat the Terps accomplished last week. Maybe you UVA boys need to add William and Mary to your schedule so you can tune up for the likes of Western Michigan.........
i could definitely see us beating wake forest, however, it's going to take another good game from hollenback.


and if you ever run low on faith, just keep saying two words. Josh Portis, Josh Portis, Josh Portis. we should have one of the best offenses in the nation with him at the helm

[dj_stouty]

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. We entered a bet. Someone (Ahem) wasn't even in on the bet even though he was begged to get in on the action. I think that disqualifies a certain person's opinion on the issue.

If I recall...no terms were made on the agreed bet. But if you want to make one up after the fact, go ahead. I'll concede. Ive admitted all season that UVA sucks...but I have lots of hope for the future under Sewell.

Regarding the Bowl situtation; Dont you think not even making a 2nd or 3rd tier Bowl game for 2 striaght seasons is bad; especialyl for a former Coach of the Year? You can tout BCS bowls all you want...but if you can't even make a crap bowl, it doesn't make the program look very good.

Speaking of...there may be no bowl in sight for UMD. I guess time will tell.

OH...and I'll personally ask Groh on Saturday if he can add Florida International and W&M to their schedule next season. They definitely need a D-1AA school in there if they want to compete with the likes of UMD. :D

[Skaggsrules]

These are the games UVA will play next year

Home: Pittsburgh, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Duke, Virginia Tech
Away: Middle Tennessee, Wyoming, Maryland, NC State, UNC, Miami


And here are the next few years too
http://virginia.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=178&tid=61697618&mid=61697618&sid=927&style=2

[dj_stouty]

These are the games UVA will play next year

Home: Pittsburgh, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Duke, Virginia Tech
Away: Middle Tennessee, Wyoming, Maryland, NC State, UNC, Miami


And here are the next few years too
http://virginia.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=178&tid=61697618&mid=61697618&sid=927&style=2

Keino will be happy to know that William & Mary are on UVA's schedule in 2009.

[redskin_rich]

Keino, as I said earlier, name your terms. You still need one more victory to win this bet. I mentioned, when we started this, making the winnings a drink. What you say?

[Keino]

Keino, as I said earlier, name your terms. You still need one more victory to win this bet. I mentioned, when we started this, making the winnings a drink. What you say?

A beer works for me. That's why Im a little surprised at DJ. He and I have been making bets for 5 years on various things, and the terms are always a beer.

The bet for me is more about Bragging rights than anything else. When MD beats FL State this weekend, I shall have rights to brag. I will also be at a minimum, crap bowl bound, and UVA won't be.

[dj_stouty]

A beer works for me. That's why Im a little surprised at DJ. He and I have been making bets for 5 years on various things, and the terms are always a beer.

I just re-read this thread. Rich asked about the wager...and even hinted at it being potable but you never checked in to confirm. But a beer is good enough.

The bet for me is more about Bragging rights than anything else. When MD beats FL State this weekend, I shall have rights to brag. I will also be at a minimum, crap bowl bound, and UVA won't be.

OHHHHHHHHHHH. So now its cool to go to a crap bowl while the other team sits home? My how things have changed. You didn't seem to concerned when the tables were turned the past two seasons...

And by the way...you are going to probably need 7 wins to get to the MySpace.com bowl in York, PA. How is that going to happen?

[Keino]

LOL DJ. Of course I'd like to goto a Bowl, any bowl. BTW after we beat FSU we will then have WF on our schedule at home. We will win our 7 and goto to the Boise Big Butts Bowl. What we do know is that UMD is still in bowl contention, while UVA is not.

However, when comparing the success of programs, I would look at the program as having been to 3 straight BCS bowls and missing bowls altogether for 2 years as a much more successful program than the program that gets to play on that Horrendous Blue field for their bowl game, or some similarly craptacular bowl for 5 straight seasons. One program has excelled at some point while the other was largely mediocre.

[dj_stouty]

LOL DJ. Of course I'd like to goto a Bowl, any bowl. BTW after we beat FSU we will then have WF on our schedule at home. We will win our 7 and goto to the Boise Big Butts Bowl. What we do know is that UMD is still in bowl contention, while UVA is not.

However, when comparing the success of programs, I would look at the program as having been to 3 straight BCS bowls and missing bowls altogether for 2 years as a much more successful program than the program that gets to play on that Horrendous Blue field for their bowl game, or some similarly craptacular bowl for 5 straight seasons. One program has excelled at some point while the other was largely mediocre.

Sleeping on 6-1 Wake Forest, eh? I'm sure the Fridge isn't as overly confident as you are.

No way you beat Florida State...even at home.

Hollla-bach. lol

[smoot]

Sleeping on 6-1 Wake Forest, eh? I'm sure the Fridge isn't as overly confident as you are.

No way you beat Florida State...even at home.

Hollla-bach. lol
maryland always plays florida state well, especially at home. dont sleep on the terps

[Keino]

Sleeping on 6-1 Wake Forest, eh? I'm sure the Fridge isn't as overly confident as you are.

No way you beat Florida State...even at home.

Hollla-bach. lol


If there is ever a time to beat FL State it's now. That program is reeling...bad.

I am sleeping on Wake Forest, because I don't believe that a Freshman QB can lead them to victory over us with a bowl bid on the line. Incidently, that Freshmen QB is the son of one of my clients here.

I'll throw a beer bet on the FSU game.

[dj_stouty]

I'll throw a beer bet on the FSU game.

Done.

[dj_stouty]

maryland always plays florida state well, especially at home. dont sleep on the terps

UMD has beated FSU once in 4 years...and it happened to be at home.

Big whoop...UVA can say the same thing. UVA beat #4 FSU in C'ville last season.

The past is just that. PAST.

I think Bowden gets his team on track this week...

[smoot]

Done.
the main thing that worries me about that game is if they pull weatherford and put in xavier lee. we never seem to do very well against mobile quarterbacks

[NCskinsfanatic]

If the Pack wants to make a bowl game they need to start right here with UVA this weekend.

[smoot]

If the Pack wants to make a bowl game they need to start right here with UVA this weekend.
im not worried about UVA. the thing that irks me is that we should be 5-2 and only needing to beat UVA to make a bowl.



AKRON FUMBLED, NO TOUCHDOWN!!! oh wait, sorry, flashback

[dj_stouty]

im not worried about UVA.

Good. This way you will suffer more after this loss. ;)

BTW - Anyone else going to C'ville for the game?

[smoot]

Good. This way you will suffer more after this loss. ;)

BTW - Anyone else going to C'ville for the game?
well, since i cant do a beer bet with you, care for an avatar or signiture one?

[dj_stouty]

well, since i cant do a beer bet with you, care for an avatar or signiture one?

How about a 1-week sig bet?

[smoot]

How about a 1-week sig bet?
works for me. winners pick after game, or pre-approved?

[dj_stouty]

works for me. winners pick after game, or pre-approved?

Winner's choice!

[CarMike]

wow! way to step up to the plate guys! That's what i'm talking about!

[NCskinsfanatic]

wow! way to step up to the plate guys! That's what i'm talking about!
OK then Mike I hereby challenge you to an NCSU/UNC football avatar bet it's in a week or two I think....you game?

[dj_stouty]

OK then Mike I hereby challenge you to an NCSU/UNC football avatar bet it's in a week or two I think....you game?

I'd like to see Mike put his hatred for NCSU on the line and put up a sig bet for UVA! ;)

That way, if/when UVA wins...you can photoshop the graphic for Smoot and NCSkinsfanatic!

Whaddya say?

[smoot]

I'd like to see Mike put his hatred for NCSU on the line and put up a sig bet for UVA! ;)

That way, if/when UVA wins...you can photoshop the graphic for Smoot and NCSkinsfanatic!

Whaddya say?
no, i need him to do mine, i dont have photoshop on this computer:D

[smoot]

OK then Mike I hereby challenge you to an NCSU/UNC football avatar bet it's in a week or two I think....you game?
i want a piece of that action

[dj_stouty]

works for me. winners pick after game, or pre-approved?

Alright Smoot....I'm leaving for the game now. The hour drive home will give me plenty of time to think up a sig for you. ;)

[smoot]

Alright Smoot....I'm leaving for the game now. The hour drive home will give me plenty of time to think up a sig for you. ;)
have fun, dont get urinated on

[redskin_rich]

have fun, dont get urinated on
That only happens in Raleigh.

[smoot]

That only happens in Raleigh.
but state fans are at the game, you never know




and dj.........here i am, awaiting the sig. i shall not welch on man-law

[Skaggsrules]

It's the all blue uni's, don't mess with the all blue's

[smoot]

It's the all blue uni's, don't mess with the all blue's
i like to call it "the marcus stone effect". everytime we play him, we lose

[NCskinsfanatic]

I didn't see the game but 7 points by a Stone led team makes sense, really we don't have an ACC caliber starting QB to choose from therein lies the Packs problem...and UNC is actually leading wake right now :rolleyes: what a day...Congrats dj.

[smoot]

I didn't see the game but 7 points by a Stone led team makes sense, really we don't have an ACC caliber starting QB to choose from therein lies the Packs problem...and UNC is actually leading wake right now :rolleyes: what a day...Congrats dj.
say it with me......bill cowher, bill cowher, bill cowher

[dj_stouty]

Thanks Smoot...you are a good sport. The wind was such a factor today, that it could have gone either way in the 4th quarter. Mrs dj and I froze our butts off in the stands thanks to the wind chill. I will say this...the NCSU fans who traveled to the game were respectful before and after the game. ALL of them. I respect that. In fact, there were more NCSU fans in attendance for this game than there were UMD fans for their game in Charlottesville.

Speaking of UMD...

Keino~I believe I owe you a beer for the UMD win over FSU. Add it to my tab. lol. In fact, I believe I owe you several, buddy. I don't think I've won a beer bet with you since the Trung Canidate bet.

I must say...I originally raised an eyebrow at VT storming the field when they beat #10 Clemson on Thursday night....but I've come to realize it was warranted. HOWEVER, UMD's fans storming the field after their unranked team beat another unranked team? Come on...:rolleyes:

[smoot]

HOWEVER, UMD's fans storming the field after their unranked team beat another unranked team? Come on...:rolleyes:
i think it was more of a matter of beating your biggest football rival for only the second time EVER.

and hey, there were many big recruits in attendance tonight, it sure cant hurt that :Pickle:.


also, im always up for a good bet, let me know if you wanna do something in the future. this sig is for a week right?

[dj_stouty]

i think it was more of a matter of beating your biggest football rival for only the second time EVER.

and hey, there were many big recruits in attendance tonight, it sure cant hurt that :Pickle:.


also, im always up for a good bet, let me know if you wanna do something in the future. this sig is for a week right?

Ok...but they beat FSU when they were 5th in the nation 2 years ago, I believe. Seems a bit typical for the UMD fans to make an excuse to rush the field, no matter the circumstances. In fact, I expect several arrests to happen tonight due to flaming couches or flipped cop cars. Not sure why those students always feel the need to take out their happiness in those ways...

And yes....the sig is for a week. Feel free to dump it Friday if you want. After all, this is DALLAS WEEK...~!

[smoot]

Ok...but they beat FSU when they were 5th in the nation 2 years ago, I believe. Seems a bit typical for the UMD fans to make an excuse to rush the field, no matter the circumstances. In fact, I expect several arrests to happen tonight due to flaming couches or flipped cop cars. Not sure why those students always feel the need to take out their happiness in those ways...
to eacch his own i guess

And yes....the sig is for a week. Feel free to dump it Friday if you want. After all, this is DALLAS WEEK...~!
i shall not welch; man law- 1 week

[Keino]

Speaking of UMD...

Keino~I believe I owe you a beer for the UMD win over FSU. Add it to my tab. lol. In fact, I believe I owe you several, buddy. I don't think I've won a beer bet with you since the Trung Canidate bet.





How Bout Dem Terps.

6-2. and the Two are 2 very respectable losses......both on the road against ranked opponents (Georgia Tech and WVU on the road). I believe we are bowl bound...Maybe that was the reason the field was rushed.

[smoot]

How Bout Dem Terps.

6-2. and the Two are 2 very respectable losses......both on the road against ranked opponents (Georgia Tech and WVU on the road). I believe we are bowl bound...Maybe that was the reason the field was rushed.
:Pickle:

[redskin_rich]

How Bout Dem Terps.

Keino- I'll see you next Sunday, before the Dallas game. ;) I'm bringing homemade Bloody Marys(much better than the premixed stuff I brought last year, trust me), Patron and.....what kind of beer do you want?

[Keino]

Keino- I'll see you next Sunday, before the Dallas game. ;) I'm bringing homemade Bloody Marys(much better than the premixed stuff I brought last year, trust me), Patron and.....what kind of beer do you want?


La Cerveza Mas Fina will do me just swell.....In English, that is Corona.

[redskin_rich]

La Cerveza Mas Fina will do me just swell.....In English, that is Corona.
Con cal?:)

[Skaggsrules]

I'm excited to see UVA vs. FSU, I wasn't as excited after the Wyoming game (let alone WMU and ECU) but I think this will be a pretty close game....It's a shame that Miami and FSU suck so much this year, yet next year, they will both start out in the top 15 no matter how poorly they finish this year.

[smoot]

I'm excited to see UVA vs. FSU, I wasn't as excited after the Wyoming game (let alone WMU and ECU) but I think this will be a pretty close game....It's a shame that Miami and FSU suck so much this year, yet next year, they will both start out in the top 15 no matter how poorly they finish this year.
what makes you think that uva will start next year in the top 15?

as for fsu, they are a different team under xavier lee, look out for him

[NCskinsfanatic]

say it with me......bill cowher, bill cowher, bill cowher
I really don't find that scenario all that hard to believe despite what some might say. It would have a huge impact on NCSUs ability to recruit top notch talent acrooss the board.

[smoot]

I really don't find that scenario all that hard to believe despite what some might say. It would have a huge impact on NCSUs ability to recruit top notch talent acrooss the board.
well lets see......

not resigning his contract with the steelers? Check
building a brand-new, multi-million dollar house in Raleigh? Check
putting his daughter in Ravenscroft high school (a local raleigh private high school)? Check
Amato on his way out? Check

i dont think we see him as early as next year, but i'd put money on the year after

[dj_stouty]

what makes you think that uva will start next year in the top 15?


He wasn't referring to UVA...he said Miami and FSU will probably start in the top 15 due to their names.

[smoot]

He wasn't referring to UVA...he said Miami and FSU will probably start in the top 15 due to their names.
your right, for some reason i missed him saying miami

[NCskinsfanatic]

well lets see......

not resigning his contract with the steelers? Check
building a brand-new, multi-million dollar house in Raleigh? Check
putting his daughter in Ravenscroft high school (a local raleigh private high school)? Check
Amato on his way out? Check

i dont think we see him as early as next year, but i'd put money on the year after
Check:lol1:

[dj_stouty]

I was impressed watching UVA beat up on Miami. UVA was the first team this season to rush for 100+ against the Canes.

With an inprobable win over VaTech on Sunday and UVA will be bowl eligible.

[Skaggsrules]

Maybe UVA can snap the ball spell of playing poorly on the road against ACC teams (Don't count Duke)....but then again, maybe i'll win the lottery on saturday too....but I can hope...Groh can save the season with a win.

[dj_stouty]

Maybe UVA can snap the ball spell of playing poorly on the road against ACC teams (Don't count Duke)....but then again, maybe i'll win the lottery on saturday too....but I can hope...Groh can save the season with a win.

I think he pretty much saved the season, at least in terms of stopping the downward spiral, with wins over NCSU and Miami. It was the early losses to W. Michigan and ECU that stalled them early.

But it has been fun watching Sewell mature into a starting QB. He seems to get better each and every game.

And yes...the odds of UVA beating VaTech are slim. (I think Tech is a 17 point favorite) But wierder things have happened in college football...

[Skaggsrules]

Well, if Groh wins, we can go to a bowl, we'll be 2nd in the Coastal with a win, shocking isn't it