Riggo talking down about Gibbs

[ramseyfan1]

No lie, I was just watching channel 7 news and they quoted Riggo saying that the offense sputtering was Gibbs' fault, he has got to be thinking my gosh did I make the right decision coming back, and he is physically here but mentally he is somewhere else and it is showing up in the offense.

[NCskinsfanatic]

What? I cant believe that is his opinion......The players make the plays period. The difference in coaching is already noticeable, and I believe Gibbs is right where he's suppose to be in body and mind.

[ramseyfan1]

i could not believe it when i heard it too, the difference is definately noticeable already, that was just completely shocking, im sure it will be on more news tomorrow.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Sounds like riggo's been drinking too much beer....... :rolleyes: .

[bgforever]

I think he means, like keeping Gardner in when he dropped his second pass. Could have brought in Jacobs. When he ran Portis on exact plays that just didn't bely where the soft spot was in the Giant's D-Line.

Aside from that, I agree the players have to make the play. Gibbs put them mainly in the best possible position to get first downs AND even pull the game out and get the heck out of town!

Also Riggins toes are curling up, because he has the itch, but he's history now and just shows you how well he knew Gibbs and what he was trying to do. Remember Riggins PICKED his holes. I suspect Portis will be doing the same by December. That's a credit to HISTORIC coaching, not average.

Gibbs is the man, period!

[whitskins]

Sounds like riggo's been drinking too much beer....... :rolleyes: .

Yeah Riggo sounds drunk, Joe Namath style. How is it Gibbs' fault that Ramsey throws three picks or Portis fumbles twice? This is a new team with a new offense, and we're making stupid mistakes, but to say that Gibbs is somewhere else mentally?? You've gotta be joking.

[RedskinsVision]

i saw this too. he said something like, (paraphrasing) "Gibbs is unsure of himself and questioning himself why he's doing this and that uncertainty is translating into his Offense."

from the beginning, Riggo's been skeptical about Gibbs having success this go around so he's just further going along w/ his stand. on the radio and the Redskins Report he's been negative.. worrying about his health and mental state always wondering if he's going to question himself whenever the team's not doing well. i'm not worried cuz Riggo's just talking out his arse and doesn't want to jump on the bandwagon so in case Gibbs does fail, he can be the one that said i told u so.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Ok ,this is the way I look at it this man can coach. He has also surrounded himself with proven coaches. He has been out of football for 12 years and has inherited a team that doesnt know how to win because they havent for quite some time. He is 1-1 and we beat ourselves the one game we lost with costly turnovers by the back up QB and our starting RB. The way i see it is that we played very solid D and had we scored on even 1 of the drives that resulted in TO in Giants territory, we win. If Riggo knows better why aint he coachin?

[bgforever]

You know what? This makes for good motivation on JG's part. He's not even thinking about what Riggins said. Probably up watching film at this very moment, looking at Parcells do the Macarena on field goals. :)

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Sounds like riggo's been drinking too much beer....... :rolleyes: .
LOL. thats exactly what i was thinking!

riggo is always negative regarding the skins, so i wont read too much into.

[Patrick]

..... just hit me as I was reading the posts .... I wonder IF big JR is just a little concerned that when it's all said and done (GibbsII era I mean), that Clinton Portis is the main RB associated with Gibbs - NOT him!

[CarMike]

Excellent point once again Patrick.

Remember....the first time coach Gibbs was in DC, he started out 0-5. It takes the offense more time to gel.

Once again, since when does coach Gibbs make plays? He calls them. And its time for the players to step up. If Gardner catches the ball on that sure TD throw from Ramsey, we wouldn't be talking what kind of coach Gibbs is. [If he's in over his head...BS!]

I'm on my last nerve dealing with this crap....

[GolfFreak]

It's Riggo ... he says dumb things from time to time.

[smoak]

i've never liked riggins that much. i respect and appreciate all he has done for the franchise as a player, but as a person i think he is a few pancakes short of a stack. riggo is one of those folks where the attention and focus seem to be more about him when he says something. personally i wouldn't be upset if he wasn't around as much.

[joethefan]

I heard the same thing...but it's funny how people who have already done it can only complain about what the team is doing...Thiesman does the same sometimes....he really gets on my nerves (riggo). I bet if the old old players of the older day were in this era of football, even they would not be able to handle the speed. esp riggo.

[wewantdallas]

I am SO SICK of this kind of crap by Riggins (and others).

Like Smoakme, I love what Riggins did for us on the field, but he is absolutely in the entertainment business now. Every week, you can tell he's just trying to make the funny comment, the witty comment, just looking for something to say to make HIM look good.

How anyone can make this kind of comment after ONLY TWO GAMES (and a 1-1 record, I might add) is beyond me. I am so sick of all the negative garbage that just gets blown out of proportion in every facet of the news, including sports. People just love to jump on one tiny thing like vultures and turn it into some sort of major deal.

Like someone else said, if the Rod Gardner catches one TD pass against the Giants, everyone's talking about "Gibbs' surprising Redskins" and "Joe is 2-0," etc., probably making TOO MUCH out of the victories.

This is the guy's third week in football after being out 12 years. To say he's already questioning why he came back is absolutely beyond idiocy. How does Riggins know any of this? He needs to stay in New York and keep working on soap operas. It's obvious that's what he's trying to turn the Redskins situation into.

[dj_stouty]

I don't necessarily agree 100% with his opinion on Gibbs...but I certainly think he is VERY knowledgeable about football.

[RedskinRyan]

Yeah Riggo sounds drunk, Joe Namath style. How is it Gibbs' fault that Ramsey throws three picks or Portis fumbles twice? This is a new team with a new offense, and we're making stupid mistakes, but to say that Gibbs is somewhere else mentally?? You've gotta be joking.

atleast he doesnt wanna kiss gibbs......i dont think that gibbs is second guessing his comeback. he didnt throw those ints. although i'd agree he should have taken gardner out after all those drops(but the one in the end zone almost went to coles).

[Keino]

i've never liked riggins that much. i respect and appreciate all he has done for the franchise as a player, but as a person i think he is a few pancakes short of a stack. riggo is one of those folks where the attention and focus seem to be more about him when he says something. personally i wouldn't be upset if he wasn't around as much.

Your avatar is Killin me.............

[jonesy]

Riggo is on to something, do you notice how uptight Gibbs looks all the time, I mean really. I am sure this is a big emotional adjustment for JG after 12 years and it would only be human to go through doubts and uncertainties while trying to find a rythym on this awesome and overwhelming stage.

He will be fine but my gosh can you imagine what it must be like for JG the human. His prayers will be answered and the light will shine!!! There will be deep valleys to get to the mountain top!

[openallnight]

i've never liked riggins that much. i respect and appreciate all he has done for the franchise as a player, but as a person i think he is a few pancakes short of a stack. riggo is one of those folks where the attention and focus seem to be more about him when he says something. personally i wouldn't be upset if he wasn't around as much.
At the risk of sounding like a heretic I've got to agree w/ smoakme here. I'll never forget what Riggins did for us in the '82 playoffs. It was without a doubt one of the most special periods in my life, largely due to the efforts of #44. Although, there's several things that have turned me off to Riggo outside the playing field.
The 1st offense i took when I was 7 years old. I waited outside the Skins exit from RFK as the players left. The skins had just pummeled the Jets and had a 7-0 record. Every player I asked for an autograph gladly complied. That is except for Riggo. He just pushed me aside and hurriedly trotted to his car. As a little kid it really crushed me, that my hero would treat me like that. The weird thing about it was that it had such a big impression on me I remember it like it was just yesterday.
Also, when he left the Skins in the prime of his career and went on that sabatical it REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. At the time I thought ALL Skins fans really felt betrayed. I guess winning superbowl MVP made everyone forget. I may have gotten over it, but I still haven't forgotten.

Although, I still wouldn't read too much into his comments regarding Gibbs. I always take these with a grain of salt. For some reason he never seems to come across as sincere. I'm never sure how much is just tongue and cheek.

[Towson Skins]

I love Gibbs and all and yes the players do make the plays. But it seems you all put all the blame on Spurrier instead of the players when he was here.

[smoak]

Your avatar is Killin me.............

LMAO! i know... i'm sorry, but i thought i switched it. i forgot that both the pics i tried to load were too large even though they aren't? not sure whats going on there...

but i have confidence that jimoh will continue to improve and make some big plays for the redskins. a forced fumble on monday night would be nice!

[smoak]

I love Gibbs and all and yes the players do make the plays. But it seems you all put all the blame on Spurrier instead of the players when he was here.

spurrier had no game plan... LITERALLY. he routinelly goofed off taking golf swings during practices... he called d-mac dark-hair-ian mccants... i like spurrier as a person, but EVERYONE saw how he was a failure as a coach.

[smoak]

At the risk of sounding like a heretic I've got to agree w/ smoakme here. I'll never forget what Riggins did for us in the '82 playoffs. It was without a doubt one of the most special periods in my life, largely due to the efforts of #44. Although, there's several things that have turned me off to Riggo outside the playing field.
The 1st offense i took when I was 7 years old. I waited outside the Skins exit from RFK as the players left. The skins had just pummeled the Jets and had a 7-0 record. Every player I asked for an autograph gladly complied. That is except for Riggo. He just pushed me aside and hurriedly trotted to his car. As a little kid it really crushed me, that my hero would treat me like that. The weird thing about it was that it had such a big impression on me I remember it like it was just yesterday.
Also, when he left the Skins in the prime of his career and went on that sabatical it REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. At the time I thought ALL Skins fans really felt betrayed. I guess winning superbowl MVP made everyone forget. I may have gotten over it, but I still haven't forgotten.

Although, I still wouldn't read too much into his comments regarding Gibbs. I always take these with a grain of salt. For some reason he never seems to come across as sincere. I'm never sure how much is just tongue and cheek.

that is awful, but unfortunately not out of character for riggins. the man has always put himself before the organization, teammates, coaches, and fans.

[smoak]

Riggo is on to something, do you notice how uptight Gibbs looks all the time, I mean really. I am sure this is a big emotional adjustment for JG after 12 years and it would only be human to go through doubts and uncertainties while trying to find a rythym on this awesome and overwhelming stage.

He will be fine but my gosh can you imagine what it must be like for JG the human. His prayers will be answered and the light will shine!!! There will be deep valleys to get to the mountain top!

joe doesn't look uptight to me... after like our 5th or 6th turnover he was still clapping and encouraging the offense. maybe you prefer the flapping lips of steve spurrier??

i'm not an overly religious person, but gibbs is. he has a calm and peace in his life that i would guess makes football seem almost insignificant at times... however, he is competitive and wants to win... i just don't see that he is uptight or overwhelmed at all.

[CamLwalk]

"Hey! Loosen up, Sandy baby!"

[Patrick]

"Hey! Loosen up, Sandy baby!"

:drunker:

[Avg Joe]

He's going to be on WTEM today so I'll see what he says then. I would have liked to hear what he said to really have an opinion on it.

But the guy you all need to hear is Doc. Man he is the greatest. LOL "This isn't a rivalry, this is an a$$ kicking, and we're the ones getting our a$$'es kicked!"

[LATrueRedskin]

Excellent point once again Patrick.

Remember....the first time coach Gibbs was in DC, he started out 0-5. It takes the offense more time to gel.

Once again, since when does coach Gibbs make plays? He calls them. And its time for the players to step up. If Gardner catches the ball on that sure TD throw from Ramsey, we wouldn't be talking what kind of coach Gibbs is. [If he's in over his head...BS!]

I'm on my last nerve dealing with this crap....

Agreed. Nice job CarMike.

[wewantdallas]

Just heard Buge's response to Riggo on Riggo's radio show. He said he was disappointed in Riggins and throught it was disrespectful. "There's nothing wrong with Joe Gibbs," he said. He appeared really pissed off about it.

Riggo's response? "Buges....LOOSEN UP!" He stood by what he said, but, at the same time, I detected that it got to Riggins a little that Joe Bugel was "disappointed" in him. I know Riggins really loves that guy.

We'll see what happens as the year progresses. Never a dull moment in D.C....

[redwolf1218]

Riggo has always been something of a loose cannon. it's well known that he mixes pain killers with booze and who knows what he'll come out with.

[colkurtz]

Riggo is in the entertainment business now and just stirring the pot up to get attention and more listeners.

I DO think Gibbs has looked very tense and especially in the first game, was calling it tight. However, last week he called a game that should have beaten the Giants easily. If you look at all the pass plays that were interceptions - THERE WERE OTHER GUYS OPEN! Gardner dropped one that would have been a TD. We should have won that game by at least two TDs.

Gibbs has taken on a huge project. This team was playing terrible football last December - almost the worse in the NFL. Now we probably have at least a .500 team or better. That comes from coaching. He will loosen up as the season goes on and be successful. He always has.

[Skins57]

What? I cant believe that is his opinion......The players make the plays period. The difference in coaching is already noticeable, and I believe Gibbs is right where he's suppose to be in body and mind.


Thing is if SS was here we would be blaming him for everything (rightfully so) so I believe Joe has to take some of the blame and he would likely be the first to do so but I do not believe it is because it is due to lack of effort by Joe. Riggo needs to shut his pie hole and worry about his soap opera career before he attacks a legend

[RedskinsVision]

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031778137009&path=%21sports%21redskins&s=1045855935462

A remark by former Redskins running back John Riggins had some in the organization upset yesterday. On the "Afternoon Blitz with Adam Schein and John Riggins" on Sirius NFL Radio, Riggins said, "I really don't like saying this, but it's what I think and feel so I have to say it, I don't think Joe Gibbs is right yet . . . I think there's uncertainty in Joe Gibbs. I think that Joe Gibbs is somewhat pre-disposed, and that he's thinking about other things. I use the term psychological splitting, he's there as the head coach, but he's really somewhere else.

"I'm wondering if he's starting to say 'Gosh . . . is this the right decision I wanted to make here?' And I think it's translating into his offense because they don't seem to be forceful. Is this a trend or is this just something that's going to work its way out as the season goes on?"

Gibbs said, "I'd have to ask John what he meant by that."

Offensive line coach Joe Bugel had stronger words than that.

"I'm awfully disappointed Riggo said that because Riggo is one of the all-time, all-time great Redskins and to talk about our leader like that is wrong," Bugel said. "And I would tell him to his face. Ain't nothing wrong with Joe Gibbs. Joe Gibbs wants to be here. He feels he can win. He is doing a great job for us. For John or any of the old Redskins to say something like that is off the wall. That's disrespectful. End of story."