Brunell Says He's Feeling Better....

[hail2skins]

but the decision of whether he practices on Thursday will be up to the coaches.

Read About It Here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42892-2004Sep22.html)

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

well that was quick. you think he is getting scared that pat may steal his job? :).

i hope he is truly feeling better and not trying to rush himself back.

[truant]

You can't rush Mark back. He could make the injury worse and if he's hobbled against the blitz happy Boys it'll be ugly. Let Pat get one shot at it.

[frenchskinsfan]

I'd rather see Brunell on the sidelines on monday, our QBs are not playing well so far, and I prefer a healthy "average" Brunell playing more than 10 games this season (even if he misses this one), than a "future star but still shaky for now" Ramsey entering as a backup on monday, and then start (and probably loose) 10 games after that b/c Brunell would have aggravated his injury.
Anyway though, whoever starts on monday must win.

[sdredskinsfan]

If Brunell truly feels better then Gibbs should not hesitate to start him. If not, Brunell should only come into the game if Ramsey continues the way he's been going.

[Patrick]

He might feel better BUT if he's not practicing, Gibbs has already stated he would not start.

[CarMike]

I want which ever QB has been practicing to start. If Brunell isn't ready, he'll hurt our chances more than he'll be helping by playing.

Besides...I don't know if he'll lose his job to Ramsey over an injury. Ramsey may start this week. But he may be back as the #2 the following week....

[GolfFreak]

I hope the stick w/ Patrick at least for today's practices, let's not have Pat unprepared on Monday if Brunell's hammy gets worse. Heck - give them both some reps.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I really hope Brunell's not trying to rush himself back to make sure he keeps his job.

[joethefan]

I really hope Brunell's not trying to rush himself back to make sure he keeps his job.

That may be the case...I would rush back too, if I know I have a better shot at us winning than Ram....

[RedskinRyan]

i think i'd rather stick with ramsey for this game. dallas got torched by culpepper, who has a strong arm. the coaches need to stress good decision making to ramsey this week in practice. getting the ball out quick, throwing it away instead of trying to make a play. i think ramsey will show nice accurate throws when he isnt trying to lead us to an amazing comeback(how bad we played and if we won that game, i would have considered it an amazing comeback).

[NCskinsfanatic]

well that was quick. you think he is getting scared that pat may steal his job? :).

i hope he is truly feeling better and not trying to rush himself back.Unless he kept his eyes closed on the sidelines last sunday he should know has very little to worry about.

[RedSkinBrit]

I would be tempted to go with Ram and give Brunnell that little more time to be 100% ready. Who knows maybe Ram will surprise a lot of people and step it up.

[funnyperson1]

If Brunell isn't 100% Ramsey should start. He should also be schooled on how to not throw the ball to people in blue uniforms, they aren't on your team.

[dj_stouty]

I say we start the QB who has the best chance of getting us the Win.

I'd prefer Brunell...but only if he is 100%. I don't like his arm, but I like how he can get out of the pocket if necessary.

[chrisbcbu]

Wow not having any power, and missing the game you miss lots of stuff! What happened to Brunell?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Wow not having any power, and missing the game you miss lots of stuff! What happened to Brunell?
Welcome back chris. i sincerely hope all is well with you.

Well, brunell strained his hamstring in the game against the giants. if you have been cruising the board, you should have read that we lost to them 20-14 in a sloppy game in which we turned the ball over SEVEN times. no thats not a typo. we had numerous chances to win the game but after ramsey came in for relief, he threw a few bad INTs. not all were his fault. brunell fumbled once, portis fumbled twice (one was returned for a TD) and ramsey threw 3 picks.

[chrisbcbu]

Welcome back chris. i sincerely hope all is well with you.

Well, brunell strained his hamstring in the game against the giants. if you have been cruising the board, you should have read that we lost to them 20-14 in a sloppy game in which we turned the ball over SEVEN times. no thats not a typo. we had numerous chances to win the game but after ramsey came in for relief, he threw a few bad INTs. not all were his fault. brunell fumbled once, portis fumbled twice (one was returned for a TD) and ramsey threw 3 picks.

Wow, im glad i missed that game then, as i would have beat myself up watching that game!

Thx, its good to be back. Tho just found out that my work is not going to be paying me for the time missed due to the hurricane. Sigh time to use all my vacation for this hurricane. ugh

[freakofthenorth]

I'd rather see Brunell on the sidelines on monday, our QBs are not playing well so far, and I prefer a healthy "average" Brunell playing more than 10 games this season (even if he misses this one), than a "future star but still shaky for now" Ramsey entering as a backup on monday, and then start (and probably loose) 10 games after that b/c Brunell would have aggravated his injury.
Anyway though, whoever starts on monday must win.

Good point, but that 'still shaky for now' notion has to be taken in context.

Pat said himself that he ran plays in last week's game that he has never ran before. That's nuts!

I say, pick a starter, and prepare that one person for this week. If its Ramsey, think of the added chemistry he will have w/ a week's worth of practice.

[Skins4life]

I want which ever QB has been practicing to start. If Brunell isn't ready, he'll hurt our chances more than he'll be helping by playing.

Besides...I don't know if he'll lose his job to Ramsey over an injury. Ramsey may start this week. But he may be back as the #2 the following week....

I'm with Carmike. Whoever practices should go. Gibbs already stated it. Besides, you just never know if Patrick will do if 0-0 is on the scoreboard.

[Skins57]

I agree, Patrick should start this game. I believe Brunell is trying to make sure he doesn't lose his job. If Ram comes in and beats Dallas on Monday night how can Joe justify benching him? I do not see it happening unless we win and Ram has a bad night

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I'm with Carmike. Whoever practices should go. Gibbs already stated it. Besides, you just never know if Patrick will do if 0-0 is on the scoreboard.
That's a great point. I'm confident we'll see a different Ramsey with the score tied, and as the game progresses, in our favor. We will (I hope) be able to run, and that will open the passing game. I have a lot of confidence in Patrick for this game, hopefully I'm right.

[Shabba]

Pat should start but dangit if he F's up, I will hang his butt.

[openallnight]

Brunell will start. Brunell will be the game's MVP. This is all just a ploy to lull the cowboys into a false sense of security.

[BIGSEF3]

whoever starts, we are going to win beacuse our D absolutely rocks and their O is not going to do anything our D cant handle.

but i really think Ramsey will still start.

[IndianBaller27]

He should sit this one out. I don't want him to get hurt. Plus I really wanna see Pat play.

[PennSkinsFan]

Put it this way, I can not possible see how Patrick could play worse than last week. At some point, ramsey will break out of this funk, and what better week than dallas week!

[LATrueRedskin]

I want which ever QB has been practicing to start. If Brunell isn't ready, he'll hurt our chances more than he'll be helping by playing.

Besides...I don't know if he'll lose his job to Ramsey over an injury. Ramsey may start this week. But he may be back as the #2 the following week....

I agree. I think Brunell thinks he can play because he doesn't suspect us to pass much against the Cowboys. The problem with that is that it's uncertain how the game will play out. I'm liking Ramsey for this one, because he has gotten the reps in practice this week, so he should be settled, hopefully.

[TexSkin]

If Ram is truly going to be our future he needs to step up and play like it now. He is no Rooke anymore. He is a 3rd year vet.

[hail2skins]

An update

Brunnell practiced today and says even though it's a little tight and sore, it feels much better. It caused Gibbs to delay his decision on who the starter will be. I think the person that's starting knows they will be starting and Gibbs is just keeping Dallas at bay as to who they should prepare for.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48107-2004Sep24.html

[redwolf1218]

i keep thinking, if i was dallas, who would i want to start...brunell or ramsey. who could i force into making more mistakes? ramsey. who could i distract more with blitzes? ramsey. who's the more accurate passer? brunell. who is better under pressure? brunell. ramsey has the stronger arm, but that's about it. all the intangibles belong to brunell. who would i rather face at QB for them...Vinny, or their strong armed rookie backup?

[openallnight]

i keep thinking, if i was dallas, who would i want to start...brunell or ramsey. who could i force into making more mistakes? ramsey. who could i distract more with blitzes? ramsey. who's the more accurate passer? brunell. who is better under pressure? brunell. ramsey has the stronger arm, but that's about it. all the intangibles belong to brunell. who would i rather face at QB for them...Vinny, or their strong armed rookie backup?
Exactly, that's why we're using the psychological ploy of saying Ramsey is the starter. Come game time Brunell will be ready to go. He will make dallas pay for their blitzing early with some quick slants to Coles. After the safeties start cheating up to take away the slant he'll go over top to thrash and jacobs. Dallas won't know what hit them. It's gonna be a thing of beauty :)

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

joe should make mark a game-time decision just to screw with parcells.....

[redwolf1218]

let's say Vinny cant go the whole game. who's their backup. now let's say Brunell starts, but he cant go the whole game...which backup is better? ours, for sure.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Put it this way, I can not possible see how Patrick could play worse than last week. At some point, ramsey will break out of this funk, and what better week than dallas week!

That's the spirit. If Ramsey has been getting the bulk of the snaps with the first team, then he should start on Monday. I would like to see what he can do against Dallas with solid pass blocking.

[hail2skins]

joe should make mark a game-time decision just to screw with parcells.....

from what I'm hearing, it is a game time decision.

[IowaSkinsFan]

At any rate, if we have to rely on the QB to win this game, that would be bad.

A good dose of Portis/Betts should be in the works.

[PennSkinsFan]

from what I'm hearing, it is a game time decision.

and probably is intentional

[bexskins1]

dallas d is gonna be playing 2 stop the run...our qb is gonna have 2 make some plays :typeR2:

[IMALILTEAPOT]

im not comfortable with ramsey starting, but if he does, hell probably really want to do well against the cowboys on natl tv, cuz i think all the media bashing about our protection last year really hit its climax after the dallas game. man, this game is huge..... also, im happy that its on natl tv cuz then we can show the country our defense and how much improvement we made

[IndianBaller27]

You know what is really weird and creeps me out? I actually want Ramsey to start. I have no idea why. Brunell is clearly the better QB in my mind, but I guess I just like Pat a lot even after his terrible performance last Sunday.

[ihatedallas]

i keep thinking, if i was dallas, who would i want to start...brunell or ramsey. who could i force into making more mistakes? ramsey. who could i distract more with blitzes? ramsey. who's the more accurate passer? brunell. who is better under pressure? brunell. ramsey has the stronger arm, but that's about it. all the intangibles belong to brunell. who would i rather face at QB for them...Vinny, or their strong armed rookie backup?

thats a very good [point,its alot easier to "mess with" ramsey then Brunell. I personally hope Brunell gets beter and starts.

[Ohiofan]

Let's see, if I were the Cokeboys, I would want the skins to start the guy who coughed up turnovers in his own territory leading to 17 easy points in the last 2 games (Brunell), I would want the guy who fumbled on his own 25 yard line when sacked because he did not have the sense to tuck the ball away(Brunell) I woudl want the guy who lacks the sense to hold the ball when he is falling down and tries to hand off leading to a turnover insdie his own ten (Brunell), I would want the guy who can't throw the ball mre than ten yards down the field so we can stack up against the run (Brunell).

What is it with you people in this mindless adoration of a washed up QB who has done next to nothing since he got here? I mean Ramsey has his problems, I agree, but Brunell has been terrible. He can't complete passes when there are 9 & 10 men in the box. His idea of a deep route is a five yard button hook.

[rskinsfan10]

What is it with you people in this mindless adoration of a washed up QB who has done next to nothing since he got here?

What is it with you and your mindless adoration for a QB who has proved ABSOLUTELY NOTHING since he's been here other then he can take a hit?

[BIGSEF3]

what is with everyones adoration with BRUNELL, a QB who has proven absolutely nothing since he's been here, other than that he's the biggest waste of money in sports history?

[Ohiofan]

Say Rfan10, does 10 stand for your age? I acknowledged Ramsey has his problems, thus I do not "adore" him. You on the otherhand have not made a sensible comment on this board. Come on, argue back with some substance. What do you do in your spare time, write commercials for Swift Boat Veterans?

In light of Brunell's coughing up 17 points in two games with three stupid turnovers in his own terriotoy and his inability to throw the ball more than five yards downfield and tell me what support you have for your adoration of Brunell?

And I will repeat, I think Ramsey has been shakey. He would not be my first choice if i had somehting better. But Ramsey can at leaat throw the ball downfield and the Cokeboys will not be able to play 9 in the box againat him. Brunell gives up turnovers and he cannot move the team. The worst of both worlds.

Go Greg Williams. You are our hope.

[rskinsfan10]

Say Rfan10, does 10 stand for your age?

Let's get one thing straight right here, right now.

Disagree with me all you want, but don't come on MY BOARD disrespecting me. I help pay the bills around here, not you, so you will either give me a certain level of respect, or you won't be here.

That will serve as your one and only warning in this regard.

[hail2skins]

What is it with you people in this mindless adoration of a washed up QB who has done next to nothing since he got here? I mean Ramsey has his problems, I agree, but Brunell has been terrible. He can't complete passes when there are 9 & 10 men in the box. His idea of a deep route is a five yard button hook.

This is the 2nd post I've seen from you where you generalize this board and it's members. "You people" what a choice of words. We have some great minds around and if you took the time look at the board, you would notice it.

[hail2skins]

Say Rfan10, does 10 stand for your age? I acknowledged Ramsey has his problems, thus I do not "adore" him. You on the otherhand have not made a sensible comment on this board. Come on, argue back with some substance. What do you do in your spare time, write commercials for Swift Boat Veterans?

It's obvious you haven't paid attention to our guidelines. Attacking members is not allowed here. You are thereby warned and if you continue to neglect our guidelines, you will banned from here.