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RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 03:52 PM
http://mb9.theinsiders.com/fcpndhardcorefrm1.showMessage?topicID=37522.topic

per CPND.. not confirmed but they're reporting he's out of this game and maybe a few weeks more.. WTEM is only reporting Lavar missing practice today and still listed him as Questionable.

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3033184

just because there was no penalty called on the play the NFL is going to fine him??? i don't get it.. so any facemask incident not called should be a fine?

Redskins linebacker Lavar Arrington often plays with a fire unmatched by others.

That fire, however, also gets him a bit overzealous at times. One play on Sunday was one of those times and Arrington as a result will be a little lighter in the wallet.

FOXSports.com has learned that Arrington was hit with a $5,000 fine by the league office this week for nearly decapitating Giants RB Tiki Barber in Sunday's game. On the play, Arrington grabbed Barber's facemask and turned Barber around. Arrington was not penalized on the play because one of the officials thought that the Redskins linebacker grabbed Barber by the shoulder pads. However, after further review the league determined that Arrington grabbed Barber's facemask first and should have been penalized on the play.

Barber got away from the attempted tackle but didn't come away unscathed. While Barber's neck was fine he tweaked a hip flexor on the play and played with the tightness for the rest of the game.

LATrueRedskin
09-23-2004, 03:59 PM
That sounds pretty ridiculous to me being fined for a facemask. I seriously doubt it was on purpose. I'm more concerned with him missing a game. I hope that's not the case.

TexSkin
09-23-2004, 04:00 PM
Sounds real stupid to me. That injury had nothing to do with the facemasking. Give me a break.

#1SkInSfAn
09-23-2004, 04:01 PM
If he misses the Dallass Game we are in trouble not because he is the key to our defense but because he is such a good emotional team leader. Sure he will be pumping them up from the sidelines but wouldn't we rather have his presence on the feild!

RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 04:03 PM
That sounds pretty ridiculous to me being fined for a facemask. I seriously doubt it was on purpose. I'm more concerned with him missing a game. I hope that's not the case.

and what about when one of their DL wasn't called for grabbing Ramsey's facemask? same result but on a QB who's always protected more.

LATrueRedskin
09-23-2004, 04:05 PM
and what about when one of their DL wasn't called for grabbing Ramsey's facemask? same result but on a QB who's always protected more.

Exactly. These type of things get overlooked all the time. Just because Tiki probably complained about it, and since it's LA, all the sudden there's a problem. It's football, this happens.

#1SkInSfAn
09-23-2004, 04:05 PM
sorry to double post but Lavar will pay that fine and ay it happily if it means he kept Tiki from 5 extra yards on that play then he'll be more than happy to pay 1000 bucks a yard. He's a real redskin and he wants his team to win and he wants other teams to fear us. If he gets fined he'll pay it happily and if an accidental face mask is all he has the next running back by, then Lavar will pay that fine too!!

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 04:05 PM
That is soooooo ridiculous. He had one pinky on the facemask for like a half a second. It wasn't even called, but if it was, it certaily would've been one of the incidental, 5 yard variety. Insanity.

smoak
09-23-2004, 04:06 PM
i would be furious if that happened? there is no way he'll miss a game for that!?

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 04:07 PM
That is soooooo ridiculous. He had one pinky on the facemask for like a half a second. It wasn't even called, but if it was, it certaily would've been one of the incidental, 5 yard variety. Insanity.
Just to add another thought: What message does this send? "Well, if I I'm going get fined anyway, I might as well flip the guys' head up like a Pez dispenser next time".

[Homer Simpson voice] Stupid league officials.

#1SkInSfAn
09-23-2004, 04:09 PM
Just to add another thought: What message does this send? "Well, if I I'm going get fined anyway, I might as well flip the guys' head up like a Pez dispenser next time".

[Homer Simpson voice] Stupid league officials. :lol1:

Good Ol' Homer Simpson

RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 04:24 PM
WTEM is now reporting Lavar saw a Doctor and might have his knee scoped and could miss the next 4 weeks!

we need Barrow to come back so we can move Pierce over. i'm not confident w/ Marshall taking his spot.

Spence
09-23-2004, 04:26 PM
I think the league has an informal policy of fining Lavar from time to time no matter what. Just to make sure he knows he's being watched.

jonesy
09-23-2004, 04:32 PM
No way we can not lose LA for this game!

superskin
09-23-2004, 04:53 PM
Is this another Portis-like hoax? I knew that Arrington was a little dinged up, but I havent seen crap about this, or the fine, or the possible suspension on any legitimate website.

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 04:58 PM
Is this another Portis-like hoax? I knew that Arrington was a little dinged up, but I havent seen crap about this, or the fine, or the possible suspension on any legitimate website.
I hope you're right SS. Last time I cam here to find out that the Portis hoax was just that. Where is RedskinsVision when you need him? He's the king or research skills.

superskin
09-23-2004, 05:01 PM
Its odd...the only "website" this appears on is FOXSPORTS.COM, and when you try to access the story, it doesnt let you. I have been to EVERY website with authority on the NFL, and none of the others mention it. I dont know - the writing looks suspect, the face mask was hardly severe enough to warrant a suspension. And Lavar getting his knee scoped? That was never mentioned before. Someone post as soon as you can confirm or deny. These rumors truly act as kryptonite to me.

RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 05:15 PM
WTEM is reporting on both the Fine and Arrington meeting w/ Dr. Andrews in Alabama to look at his knee and might have to get it scoped which will keep him out of action for 2-4 weeks.

the Fine does not involve any suspension.

and his knee have been bothering him all training camp.. remember when ppl were reporting a possible strained ACL and a slightly torn MCL? i think this knee situation is getting serious and he will need surgery.

superskin
09-23-2004, 05:17 PM
WTEM is reporting on both the Fine and Arrington meeting w/ Dr. Andrews in Alabama to look at his knee and might have to get it scoped which will keep him out of action for 2-4 weeks.

the Fine does not involve any suspension.

and his knee have been bothering him all training camp.. remember when ppl were reporting a possible strained ACL and a slightly torn MCL? i think this knee situation is getting serious and he will need surgery.

Ugh. I cant believe he was fined for that ticky-tack face mask. We really cant afford to lose Lavar to this knee problem, but I'd rather him be out 2-4 weeks NOW, and return stronger, than play with it and be out when its playoff time.

dj_stouty
09-23-2004, 05:21 PM
Ugh. I cant believe he was fined for that ticky-tack face mask. We really cant afford to lose Lavar to this knee problem, but I'd rather him be out 2-4 weeks NOW, and return stronger, than play with it and be out when its playoff time.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=3618

From Redskins.Com

Linebacker LaVar Arrington traveled to Birmingham, Ala., Thursday to have his sprained knee examined by Dr. James Andrews, the team's senior medical consultant.
Said head coach Joe Gibbs: "They're going to go and make a decision on whether to go ahead and [have surgery]."

If Arrington does have surgery, he could miss 2-4 weeks, Gibbs said.

Should Arrington miss playing time, Gibbs said Lemar Marshall would be one possibility to replace him in the lineup. Marshall is a third-year player out of Michigan State who has played mostly on the Redskins' special teams the last two years.

superskin
09-23-2004, 05:24 PM
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=3618

From Redskins.Com

It's time for Barrow to step up and start earning his paycheck. I'd love to see Peirce line up outside, with Barrow in the middle. This is the best solution to fill Lavar's hole. Ummm, let me rephrase that - to fill the hole left by Lavar's absence. LOL.

LadyNRedskinsfan
09-23-2004, 05:45 PM
first of all......:cry: regarding the arrington injury. that is huge if he misses 4 weeks. 2 i can except.....

2nd of all, that fine is a bunch of BS. why would you fine him just because the ref blew the call? he barely even grabbed his facemask. i remember the play and he only had one finger in his facemask.

Skins57
09-23-2004, 05:51 PM
I agree the fine is BS but as Redskins fans we should be used to BS. How many times was Mark Carrier fined, and when Taylor starts playing more he will be fined also as he likes to hit. The league needs to relax a little this game is meant to be rough and fining a guy for not much of anything is getting old.

Arrington being injured worries me, but for some reason I see him playing this wek and maybe then going for surgery. I can not see him missing this game for anything. We all know he hates Dallas, remember the blow up in the locker room a few years back after another loss. I would bet he plays Mon and makes an impact

JoeDaSchmoe
09-23-2004, 05:53 PM
Goddamnit. We can't afford to lose LaVar to this damn knee thing, especially with Barrow seemingly never coming back. Pierce has been great, but we don't want another backup on the field... not with Dallas coming in four days.

IVSkinsFan
09-23-2004, 05:58 PM
I think LA will play this week and opt for surgery next week. Barrow needs to suck it up and hit the field (at least until Lavar returns). As for the fine, its BS and the redskins should appeal it.

tommahawk
09-23-2004, 06:04 PM
I just heard on channel 4 LaVar had surgury today. He's out at least 2 weeks, including this week.

LadyNRedskinsfan
09-23-2004, 06:10 PM
wow, that was quick. heres to quick healing......:beer:

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 06:11 PM
Lavar has struggled with this slight knee sprain before, off and on. I'd hate for him to push until it gets completely blown out, like a torn ligament. It might be time to go either rest it so it heals, or operate on it and fix it. Lamar Marshall or Khary Campbell should be able to fill in, much like Antonio Pierce has done. Barrow might be back soon, and Marcus Washington is a great pass rusher and all-around linebacker. Ron Warner might surprise some people too. everyone has been saying he's "undersized", but at 6'-3 and 270 he's bigger than Kearse or Ogunleye and he should be serviceable in there against both the run and the pass. My point is, a total team effort will be needed to fill Lavar's shoes.

Maxemus
09-23-2004, 06:15 PM
it says on the ESPN bottom line that he's expected to miss the cowboy game.

LadyNRedskinsfan
09-23-2004, 06:24 PM
would the best thing to do be to move pierce back outside and bump campbell up to starting MLB or just have marshall fill in for LA?

either way, im really upset right now......

leave_scars
09-23-2004, 06:24 PM
I think the NFL is trying to make an example of him with that fine.

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 06:27 PM
that's the most ridiculous fine i have ever heard of. he had what? 1 or 2 fingers, the tips of his fingers, on the face mask, and he let go and grabbed the shoulder pad, which everyone saw with that close up camera angle on the replay.

split3clemente
09-23-2004, 06:29 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=fanball-redskinsarringtonlik&prov=fanball&type=lgns

Gibbs said it would be a "miracle" if LA played...this one really stings

jonesy
09-23-2004, 06:32 PM
he is out...this will be tough to overcome!

techskinsfan
09-23-2004, 06:37 PM
it just came across sportscenter, they said pastabelly was reporting it. could require arthroscopic surgery cuz of cartilage dcamage?????????? baddddd news if true

truant
09-23-2004, 06:46 PM
Seems true... i guess the best thing is just to get him healed for later on.

This really sucks... Lavar is our most entertaining player on primetime. He must be pissed to miss this game.


Oh well, hopefully the D can step up this week without him and hold the rope.

IVSkinsFan
09-23-2004, 06:46 PM
We have to hope for a speady recovery and that our depth is good enough to help us hold on until LA can return.

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 06:46 PM
I think LA will play this week and opt for surgery next week. Barrow needs to suck it up and hit the field (at least until Lavar returns). As for the fine, its BS and the redskins should appeal it.
That's true. The bye week is coming up too.

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 06:47 PM
I just heard on channel 4 LaVar had surgury today. He's out at least 2 weeks, including this week.
Damn! Doesn't he know that it is freakin' Dallas week???

LadyNRedskinsfan
09-23-2004, 06:47 PM
its looking like marshall is gonna replace him. lets go lemar!

akhhorus
09-23-2004, 06:51 PM
Post confirms:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45501-2004Sep23.html

2-4 weeks. Means when Barrow comes back in a week or two, Pierce will slide over to the WLB. isnt everyone glad we got Washington?

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 06:53 PM
Lucky that the bi week will come in the middle of Lavar's recovery. Lemar Marshall made the team as Lavar's backup. time to step up!

lakeskin
09-23-2004, 06:56 PM
Just heard on espnnews.

This sucks!!!

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 06:59 PM
uh oh...dude, there's another thread already on exactly this same topic. i see you are new here, so welcome! but the moderators of this site have pleaded with all of us to pay attention!

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 07:02 PM
Lucky that the bi week will come in the middle of Lavar's recovery. Lemar Marshall made the team as Lavar's backup. time to step up!
:lol1:
I think you mean BYE week. They only do BI week down in Dallas.

lakeskin
09-23-2004, 07:02 PM
my bad

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:09 PM
my bad
no prob brah you're new. they have been posting threads almost every day trying to keep the board from getting cluttered with multiple threads on the same topics, because good topics worthy of debate and discussion fall off the front page with all the new duplicates taking up space. it's cool, welcome, and looking forward to your insight. this thread will probably get merged with the other one about lavar.

IndianBaller27
09-23-2004, 07:11 PM
Quick ocskinfan delete it before they see it!!

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:13 PM
:lol1:
:funpost:
I think you mean BYE week. They only do BI week down in Dallas.
a freudian slip based on having to discuss the scum sucking cowgirls all week.

Redskin006
09-23-2004, 07:14 PM
it really sucks that lavar's out. i hope that marshall will be able to step and become a playmaker like pierce has been in the last 2 games.

Chief Seeway
09-23-2004, 07:14 PM
Here comes the first fine of the new season.

Don't sweat it ocskinfan, just scan the other post titles before you post your own.

Oh, and welcome aboard!

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:15 PM
Post confirms:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45501-2004Sep23.html

2-4 weeks. Means when Barrow comes back in a week or two, Pierce will slide over to the WLB. isnt everyone glad we got Washington?
i dont wanna get lynched here, but Marcus Washington may be all that i have always hoped Lavar could be.

RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 07:23 PM
i dont wanna get lynched here, but Marcus Washington may be all that i have always hoped Lavar could be.

Marcus is so much better than all of us hoped for.. he and Pierce are leading the team in Tackles w/ 19 and 17 respectively.. but right now they can't exchange the leadership Lavar brings.. everyone on the team looks to Lavar as the team spokesman and leader. and Lavar is 4th w/ 13 Tackles and a Sack on bad knees.. he was going to make our LB trio a dominant force for once instead of just hype. i hope Marshall can step up.. he could be another Pierce type.. starting out good on ST then moving up. but it's going to be weird w/ out 56 out there.

skin4life
09-23-2004, 07:25 PM
this is fake, Gibbs is playing jedi mind tricks again. By telling sources now, it gives dallas tooo much time to attack that loss. Gibbs would have waited until the deadline to tell which players are injured. I dont think todays the day. I hope.

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:29 PM
this is fake, Gibbs is playing jedi mind tricks again. By telling sources now, it gives dallas tooo much time to attack that loss. Gibbs would have waited until the deadline to tell which players are injured. I dont think todays the day. I hope.
dude i'm sorry but Lavar had surgery today, he's out 2 to 4 weeks.

Chief Seeway
09-23-2004, 07:32 PM
ESPN just reported the surgery has already taken place. I suspect he will be ready in three weeks.

This is not a season ender for our defense, we have other playmakers.

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:33 PM
Marcus is so much better than all of us hoped for.. he and Pierce are leading the team in Tackles w/ 19 and 17 respectively.. but right now they can't exchange the leadership Lavar brings.. everyone on the team looks to Lavar as the team spokesman and leader. and Lavar is 4th w/ 13 Tackles and a Sack on bad knees.. he was going to make our LB trio a dominant force for once instead of just hype. i hope Marshall can step up.. he could be another Pierce type.. starting out good on ST then moving up. but it's going to be weird w/ out 56 out there.
maybe Lavar will be something of a martyr(?), like Jansen, Smoot (with the cracked sternum last year, throwing up at halftime from the pain) and Noble (with the incredible comeback). everyone should have a real gut check for this game. it'll be like the strike shortened season with the scabs against the starters...underdogs with all heart!

WackyJacky
09-23-2004, 07:35 PM
it says on the ESPN bottom line that he's expected to miss the cowboy game.
Fuuuu...dge! I'm quite bummed out by this news.

Hey, how about fining the refs for missing the call??? It's not Lavar's fault they picked up the flag on the play. Total BS.

RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 07:38 PM
maybe Lavar will be something of a martyr(?), like Jansen, Smoot (with the cracked sternum last year, throwing up at halftime from the pain) and Noble (with the incredible comeback). everyone should have a real gut check for this game. it'll be like the strike shortened season with the scabs against the starters...underdogs with all heart!

i hear ya.. and after Riggo ripping Gibbs up for the world to further cement their doubt.. this is time for a game played w/ pure heart and determination.. forget the talent.. this is going to take the dirt and gritty. i like what ur saying.. we're the underdogs now and the whole world is against us.. ppl might hate Dallas more but the bandwagoners are jumping on their side since they made the playoffs last year. i hope it rains and the good old days of RFK will be revisited.

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:42 PM
i hear ya.. and after Riggo ripping Gibbs up for the world to further cement their doubt.. this is time for a game played w/ pure heart and determination.. forget the talent.. this is going to take the dirt and gritty. i like what ur saying.. we're the underdogs now and the whole world is against us.. ppl might hate Dallas more but the bandwagoners are jumping on their side since they made the playoffs last year. i hope it rains and the good old days of RFK will be revisited.
it's time for the offense to step up. daniels is out, lavar is out, barrow has been out, noble is not 100 %... time to prove riggo wrong, and the offense and the backups on defense have to play with heart and fire to fill some big shoes. with our backs against the wall, this is where Gibbs shines.

SkinsForLife
09-23-2004, 07:51 PM
it's time for the offense to step up. daniels is out, lavar is out, barrow has been out, noble is not 100 %... time to prove riggo wrong, and the offense and the backups on defense have to play with heart and fire to fill some big shoes. with our backs against the wall, this is where Gibbs shines.

You're right, our offense is going to have to have a huge game. The team isn't going to lay down and let Dallas win this game, and neither will the fans. I just pray that our offense clicks. If it doesn't I think we'll be in trouble.

whistleandthumb
09-23-2004, 07:52 PM
Who cares about the stupid fine? Fine him a million bucks for all I care. Just get my LaVar back soon!!!



Ok, I sound sorta funny when I say "my LaVar." Makes me sound like a Cowgirl fan or something.

cwh25
09-23-2004, 08:04 PM
it's time for the offense to step up. daniels is out, lavar is out, barrow has been out, noble is not 100 %... time to prove riggo wrong, and the offense and the backups on defense have to play with heart and fire to fill some big shoes. with our backs against the wall, this is where Gibbs shines.

The offense really needs to step up now.

d151b
09-23-2004, 08:07 PM
it's only thursday, still plenty of time for more players to get surgery before next monday!

PennSkinsFan
09-23-2004, 08:21 PM
Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45501-2004Sep23.html)

Has knee surgery, miss 2 to 4 weeks

Ramsey2Moss
09-23-2004, 08:29 PM
what a great way to end a terrible day.

colkurtz
09-23-2004, 08:31 PM
What is the real status of Barrows?? We need him in ASAP.

Greg Williams is amazing at how he has maximized the talent - even with key players out.

Frankly, I'm more worried about our offense and especially our QB's. The Tuna came at Ramsey last year with everything and really shook him up. We need a good game from the QB and Portis needs to run well - the Cowgirls run defense is pretty weak...................

IndianBaller27
09-23-2004, 08:33 PM
2-4 weeks really means 5-6.

PennSkinsFan
09-23-2004, 08:40 PM
2-4 weeks really means 5-6.

Nah, these type of surgeries guys can return pretty quick from.

ConradCountry
09-23-2004, 08:51 PM
First Reaction: Oh Crap

Time to Settle In

Second Reaction: Oh Crap

This is not good with a capitol N we need LaVar. I just hope Pierce and Washington can step up and fill the void.

Here is a stupid idea start Taylor at weakside LB.

RedskinRyan
09-23-2004, 09:51 PM
i didnt believe it when i first read it cause it started off as 'len pasquarelli reports....'

RichardBradley
09-23-2004, 10:01 PM
Hopefully Barrow will come back and we cane move Pierce over

Carmelo
09-23-2004, 10:54 PM
First Reaction: Oh Crap

Time to Settle In

Second Reaction: Oh Crap

This is not good with a capitol N we need LaVar. I just hope Pierce and Washington can step up and fill the void.

Here is a stupid idea start Taylor at weakside LB.
ROFLMAO! Hey, you never know.
btw, all my reactions where the same. I just got into the house after a loooooooooooooong day and I got this $#!^ to come home to? Not cool at all.

bexskins1
09-23-2004, 11:06 PM
losing lavar really sucks :cry: ...but its the offense that im worried about...they gotta play big monday night

Skinz4lyfe
09-24-2004, 01:27 AM
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NCskinsfanatic
09-24-2004, 02:16 AM
Well they may have to play Taylor now for the whole big play factor. And is Barrow hurt more than they're telling us or what? I mean he didnt play in the preseason and has missed the first 2 regular season games, does he need surgery or is suppose to just get better at somepoint? Moving Pierce outside and bringing Barrow in would best compensate for the loss of LA.The offense has to step up because if we have to go with no Daniels, Barrow or Arrington on defense, then we could be vunerable to the cowboys attack. Even though they havent run the ball well Vinny has passed for quite a few yards and missing a starting DE and OLB will surely show.

lakeskin
09-24-2004, 02:17 AM
Redskins shold be fine against Dallas. They have no semblance of a running game so we could just go with a three safety lineup with bowen, taylor, and lott.

It would have been nice to see Lavar end another Dallas quarterback's career.

I miss him already.

SonnyandSam
09-24-2004, 03:21 AM
Losing LaVar is not good. Hoping Marshal can fill LaVar's shoes is too much to ask. I can only hope Joe can convince Barrow to play hurt this weekend. I also wonder if Williams might play Taylor more as a nickel back and use him as a linebacker.

These losses on defense are mounting. It is high time for the offense to get their collective heads out of their arses and play like the talent they all have. Time for Portis to show he is a great back. Time for LC and Gardner to make all the catches not just some of them. Time to use Cooley more. Time for Ramsey to grow up and stop making stupid mistakes. Time for the Dirt Bags to prove they can support a strong running game. Time for Joe to challenge a call once in a while. Time for the fans to see what Danny's money bought.....Damn it.....IT'S TIME WE BEAT THOSE DAMN cowgirls!!!!

sdredskinsfan
09-24-2004, 05:40 AM
Losing LaVar is not good. Hoping Marshal can fill LaVar's shoes is too much to ask. I can only hope Joe can convince Barrow to play hurt this weekend. I also wonder if Williams might play Taylor more as a nickel back and use him as a linebacker.

These losses on defense are mounting. It is high time for the offense to get their collective heads out of their arses and play like the talent they all have. Time for Portis to show he is a great back. Time for LC and Gardner to make all the catches not just some of them. Time to use Cooley more. Time for Ramsey to grow up and stop making stupid mistakes. Time for the Dirt Bags to prove they can support a strong running game. Time for Joe to challenge a call once in a while. Time for the fans to see what Danny's money bought.....Damn it.....IT'S TIME WE BEAT THOSE DAMN cowgirls!!!!
So you're saying that we should step up?

sdredskinsfan
09-24-2004, 05:47 AM
Gibbs sure is dealing with a rough start with respect to all these injuries.

GolfFreak
09-24-2004, 08:16 AM
Wow, we need him back quick ... I hope he returns soon.

smoak
09-24-2004, 08:25 AM
OH NO!!! is it official? is lavar out??

i'm heading to washingtonpost.com... what a cruddy friday news...

frenchskinsfan
09-24-2004, 08:43 AM
It's sad he's not there on monday. Hope Williams will do a good job to challenge this hurting loss on Def, Marshall will have big shoes to put on.

Skins4life
09-24-2004, 08:45 AM
As some people stated, it's time Barrow gets back. The loss of LA is huge, but not too bad if Pierce moves over and Barrow is in the middle. How good is Marshall?? Does anyone remember him from preseason?

hail2skins
09-24-2004, 09:45 AM
The loss of Arrington is huge but it's time for someone to step up and make a name for themself. This is a great opportunity for someone.

redwolf1218
09-24-2004, 09:55 AM
As some people stated, it's time Barrow gets back. The loss of LA is huge, but not too bad if Pierce moves over and Barrow is in the middle. How good is Marshall?? Does anyone remember him from preseason?
All i know is, Marshall was an undrafted safety from Michigan State and was asked to bulk up to become a linebacker. he is now listed at 6'-2, 230 (same size as Taylor). i bet he's fast. the only guy who sticks out in my mind that converted from safety to linebacker is Monte Coleman.

VirginiaRedskin
09-24-2004, 11:43 AM
The loss of Arrington is huge but it's time for someone to step up and make a name for themself. This is a great opportunity for someone.

Absolutely! I have been quite critical of Sean Taylor, but this will be a great opportunity for him. The U of Miami played in plenty of big games, but if this kid can finally grasp the mental aspects of what he needs to do in the NFL this would be a huge lift for this team. We need the skills that we drafted for in the 5th overall to come to the surface. Vinny tends to throw poor passes if pressured and the boys running game can be shut down without too much trouble if they listen to Williams. I also expect a lot of play action and screens by Parcells. I believe Dallas will play conservative offense early on, but also test us by trying to take advantage of players flying around high on emotion inside a rocking stadium. There will be great chances for a safety to come up huge in this game, mark my words.

RedskinRyan
09-24-2004, 12:34 PM
maybe khary campbell will get the start at MLB and move pierce out to arrington's spot

PennSkinsFan
09-24-2004, 12:48 PM
I am pretty sure Marshall will get the nod, but Campbell will see time as well. I really don't mind Marshall getting a shot here. The Arrignton injury hurts, no doubt about it, but this is a chance for a young, untested LB to get some test, and prove what they can do, plus add some valuable experience. to the resume. Anyone that expect Marshall to perform at the same level of Lavar is just not being realistic. Lavar is a game changer, a dominating force. What i hope for? Just good, solid fundamentals, good solid play.

BIGSEF3
09-24-2004, 01:28 PM
my dad called me today and told me he heard on the radio that arrington will be out ATLEAST 5 weeks. has anyone else heard that? everything i see says 2-4.

also, does anyone know whether arrington will be at the game with the rest of the team monday or is he being placed on "injured/reserve" so that the team can activate another player. i think it would be nice if arrington were there b/c he is a great leader and could boost the team.

BIGSEF3
09-24-2004, 01:30 PM
I am pretty sure Marshall will get the nod, but Campbell will see time as well. I really don't mind Marshall getting a shot here. The Arrignton injury hurts, no doubt about it, but this is a chance for a young, untested LB to get some test, and prove what they can do, plus add some valuable experience. to the resume. Anyone that expect Marshall to perform at the same level of Lavar is just not being realistic. Lavar is a game changer, a dominating force. What i hope for? Just good, solid fundamentals, good solid play.


not to dis arrington, but i dont think his being out of the game will affect the play of the defense too much. heck, if williams can come up with schemes where BOWEN gets two sacks in one game, he can come up with schemes to minimize the impact of arrington being out.

akhhorus
09-24-2004, 01:30 PM
my dad called me today and told me he heard on the radio that arrington will be out ATLEAST 5 weeks. has anyone else heard that? everything i see says 2-4.

also, does anyone know whether arrington will be at the game with the rest of the team monday or is he being placed on "injured/reserve" so that the team can activate another player. i think it would be nice if arrington were there b/c he is a great leader and could boost the team.

if Arrington was placed on the injured reserve, he would be out for the year. Don't you Eagles fans know anything?

BIGSEF3
09-24-2004, 01:39 PM
oh, thanks for the clarification.

LATrueRedskin
09-24-2004, 08:22 PM
Don't like the news about LA at all. It's very disappointing, knowing how much he was looking forward to this season. We needed him and his intensity at this Dallas game. But, looking towards the future, it's a good thing because it seems that this has bothered him for a while, and it's better to get it taken care of so it won't get worse.

redwolf1218
09-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Don't like the news about LA at all. It's very disappointing, knowing how much he was looking forward to this season. We needed him and his intensity at this Dallas game. But, looking towards the future, it's a good thing because it seems that this has bothered him for a while, and it's better to get it taken care of so it won't get worse.
i agree. he's young, and this can be fixed. he needs to heal, and we need someone to step up and take on that burden while he gets better. the only linebacker on our roster that is faster than Lavar is Lemar Marshall.

bgforever
09-24-2004, 11:28 PM
Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan
am pretty sure Marshall will get the nod, but Campbell will see time as well. I really don't mind Marshall getting a shot here. The Arrignton injury hurts, no doubt about it, but this is a chance for a young, untested LB to get some test, and prove what they can do, plus add some valuable experience. to the resume. Anyone that expect Marshall to perform at the same level of Lavar is just not being realistic. Lavar is a game changer, a dominating force. What i hope for? Just good, solid fundamentals, good solid play.

The flip to this, is since it happens earlier in the season, it does help the team down the road , should there be a playoff berth.

Most teams that recover in time with starters for the playoffs, make out well, because the depth chart has had playing time. Of course, some teams have better depth than others, so they are able to go deep in the playoffs.

We are getting some early looks at our depth, LB, LB, DE, OT, C, and the returns are very encouraging. Not that we are necessarily on the same level as NE, they had early injuries, recoverd by mid-season, and stormed the castle after that.

redwolf1218
09-24-2004, 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan


The flip to this, is since it happens earlier in the season, it does help the team down the road , should there be a playoff berth.

Most teams that recover in time with starters for the playoffs, make out well, because the depth chart has had playing time. Of course, some teams have better depth than others, so they are able to go deep in the playoffs.

We are getting some early looks at our depth, LB, LB, DE, OT, C, and the returns are very encouraging. Not that we are necessarily on the same level as NE, they had early injuries, recoverd by mid-season, and stormed the castle after that.
good point. later in the season we will get lavar, and barrow, and several others back at full strength to add to those who have stepped up and made a name for themselves.

LATrueRedskin
09-25-2004, 12:00 AM
my dad called me today and told me he heard on the radio that arrington will be out ATLEAST 5 weeks. has anyone else heard that? everything i see says 2-4.

also, does anyone know whether arrington will be at the game with the rest of the team monday or is he being placed on "injured/reserve" so that the team can activate another player. i think it would be nice if arrington were there b/c he is a great leader and could boost the team.

No way he gets put on injured reserve, that means you're done for the season. He'll only miss a couple weeks.