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superskin
09-23-2004, 07:05 PM
Sheesh! I was just watching Channel 4 News when George Michael began a piece about derogatory statements Riggo made on Satellite Radio earlier this week about Coach Joe. Riggins basically stated that Gibbs was a victim of "psychological splitting", where he is here in body, but doesnt seem to be here in mind OR committment, evidenced by the fact that our offense is so off track. Riggo went as far as to suggest that Gibbs is saying to himself "Why did I come back?" (I am paraphrasing, of course.) Well, George Michael seemed to take a deep breath before starting the story...he then proceeded to TEAR UP and his voice quivered as he defended Joe. He said that Joe is putting in MORE hours now than he did in his first tenure, and he brings 105%, just like Vince Lombardi. I mean to tell ya, GEORGE WAS FURIOUS AT RIGGO!! He literally started to cry and said "I cant believe that I have to sit here and defend Joe Gibbs."

He vowed to ask Riggo why he made the comments when they appear together on Redskins Report tommorow night. Considering they tape the show TONIGHT, fireworks are going to fly! Wow, I didnt realize George was that loyal to Gibbs! Good for him - I was touched at how he came to Joe's defense. Reactions anyone? Someone may wish to post Riggo's original comments about Gibbs if you can find them in print.

RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 07:10 PM
i just saw this too.. wow.. Michael made me emotional just listening to him. George have always been loyal to Gibbs.. and i think Gibbs loves him as well.. they have the best chemistry together compared to all other reporters.. and always had the Joe Gibbs show together. i hope George rips Riggo a new one. someone started a thread last night about some of the things Riggo said.. and today on WTEM, Riggo was defending himself after they showed a clip of Buges saying how disappointing it was to hear a Redskin say that. Riggo needs to stay in NY and leave Gibbs and D.C. alone.

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:18 PM
perhaps Riggo is the one who needs to "loosen up".

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 07:22 PM
George has always been a bit of kiss @ss, so this is really a big deal. But... he is undoubtedly a DC guy and a Redskin guy. He's my favorite guy in the area for sports all time. He's a legend himself.

wewantdallas
09-23-2004, 07:23 PM
Wow. I was shocked at this, too. I TIVO-ed it, and I'm glad I did. Michael is PISSED, and was definitely about to cry at times. He says that Gibbs is working HARDER than he did in the first run and putting in MORE hours, if that's possible, and that he is utterly committed to getting things right. In fact, Michael said he has tried to persuade Gibbs to cut BACK on the hours for health reasons!!

It should be a helluva REdskins Report this weekend....

And MAYBE this can add some fire to this team for Monday. Maybe it'll get them all wanting to win and perform for Joe Gibbs. That's about the only positive I can see from this.

Riggins has a right to say whatever he wants, but he's gone down a notch in my book. To say that Gibbs is struggling is one thing, but to suggest that he's "psychologically splitting," whatever that means, and that he's questioning whether or not he should have returned to the game, is absolutely ridiculous.

I have to say, Michael has got me really fired up, even MORESO, for this Monday night, with that outpouring of passion for Coach Gibbs.

RedskinsVision
09-23-2004, 07:28 PM
hey WWD.. maybe u can show the Michael's clip as ur clip of the week. he said many great things to pump any fan up for Gibbs. this is going to light a fire under Gibbs, Bugel and company now that one of their own are spitting out their doubts.. it's one thing for the nation to question him but one of their own Redskin!?

LadyNRedskinsfan
09-23-2004, 07:29 PM
good for george!! i know some of you call him senile, but i love george michaels. RR is on this saturday, correct?

superskin
09-23-2004, 07:29 PM
I have to say, Michael has got me really fired up, even MORESO, for this Monday night, with that outpouring of passion for Coach Gibbs.

You're g#* damn right, WWD! Thank god you tivo'd it! I assume you will post it?

This thing really got me emotional - Let me say this right now...WITH RIGGO ASSAILING GIBBS AND LAVAR OUT OF ACTION - THIS TEAM IS IN DIRE NEED OF ITS 12TH MAN!!!! GEAR UP, PEOPLE - ITS ALMOST FRIGGIN SHOWTIME!!!!!

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 07:30 PM
Wow. I was shocked at this, too. I TIVO-ed it, and I'm glad I did. Michael is PISSED, and was definitely about to cry at times. He says that Gibbs is working HARDER than he did in the first run and putting in MORE hours, if that's possible, and that he is utterly committed to getting things right. In fact, Michael said he has tried to persuade Gibbs to cut BACK on the hours for health reasons!!

It should be a helluva REdskins Report this weekend....

And MAYBE this can add some fire to this team for Monday. Maybe it'll get them all wanting to win and perform for Joe Gibbs. That's about the only positive I can see from this.

Riggins has a right to say whatever he wants, but he's gone down a notch in my book. To say that Gibbs is struggling is one thing, but to suggest that he's "psychologically splitting," whatever that means, and that he's questioning whether or not he should have returned to the game, is absolutely ridiculous.

I have to say, Michael has got me really fired up, even MORESO, for this Monday night, with that outpouring of passion for Coach Gibbs.
Hey, WWD, do you have a way to rip this to MPEG or RM or something for those of us that missed it?

redwolf1218
09-23-2004, 07:35 PM
everyone is fuming, the offense has been struggling, that's true. the defense has been carrying the team. this week it's time for the offense to get on all 8 cylinders and take this game.

PA Skins Girl
09-23-2004, 07:45 PM
George Michaels has stayed true to his roots. I've been out of the DC area for 9 years now, but when I come "home" and watch the local channels, I love it that he is still there. He's emotional just like all us fans. When it comes to the Skins and particularly to Gibbs, it's PERSONAL. Good for you George. Stay with your heart. It's not always easy, but it's the right thing to do.

wewantdallas
09-23-2004, 07:48 PM
I will put something together for the "Memory of the Week," and the George clip WILL be a part of it. I post it tomorrow.....

And for the record, I love George, too. Always have. Nothing wrong with being a Homer. More people should be proud to be Homers around this town. With all the Redskins and Gibbs gave to Riggins, you'd think he'd be more of a Homer, too.

LadyNRedskinsfan
09-23-2004, 07:50 PM
joe has been game planning for this game since he got here. hell, he probably had a game plan before january 7th. he knows how to prepare and oi wouldnt be surprised to hear the players talka bout some kind of once in a lifetime, inspirational pep talk from gibbs before the game.......man IM PUMPED!! :dalassuk:

Axegrinder
09-23-2004, 07:52 PM
Good work folks!I look foward to seeing this clip.

PA Skins Girl
09-23-2004, 07:53 PM
joe has been game planning for this game since he got here. hell, he probably had a game plan before january 7th. he knows how to prepare and oi wouldnt be surprised to hear the players talka bout some kind of once in a lifetime, inspirational pep talk from gibbs before the game.......man IM PUMPED!! :dalassuk: How true, Lady. How true.

whistleandthumb
09-23-2004, 07:57 PM
Way to go, George!! I LOVE Riggo... he's probably my all time favorite Skin. But I lost a LOT of respect for him in the last couple days. To see George Michaels getting fired up about this should, hopefully, get the fans fired up. You guys need to go BALLISTIC Monday night. And I mean BALLISTIC. Like those crazy Europeans with their soccer. FedEx should be a WAR ZONE by about 8:45pm EDT Monday night.

hail2skins
09-23-2004, 08:14 PM
Well, I just came from WTEM tonight. They had a little gathering for the clients and requested the band to play. Well, I was listening to Riggo defend himself on the way up there. I got there, we played our first set and low and behold, Riggo comes out. A friend in the band wanted a pic with him and I said I'd get in it too, then I thought about the comments and changed my mind.

I wonder if Riggo is trying to work some reverse psychology here thinking his comment would light a fire under the team. NAH!!!

superskin
09-23-2004, 08:24 PM
Well, I just came from WTEM tonight. They had a little gathering for the clients and requested the band to play. Well, I was listening to Riggo defend himself on the way up there. I got there, we played our first set and low and behold, Riggo comes out. A friend in the band wanted a pic with him and I said I'd get in it too, then I thought about the comments and changed my mind.

I wonder if Riggo is trying to work some reverse psychology here thinking his comment would light a fire under the team. NAH!!!

NAH is right. If it were Big Jake or Charles Mann making the comments, maybe...but not Riggo. For the record, I love Riggo. He is and always will be a true Redskin. But he owes Gibbs an apology, plain and simple. If you want attention, make all the comments you want about Ramsey, Portis, etc., but not the man who made you who are. Would Daniel from "The Karate Kid" be talking that way about Mr. Miagi? Of course not. You just dont do that. Good decision to "sit out" that photo oppotunity. Consider it a "mini-protest."

rskinsfan10
09-23-2004, 08:25 PM
I have lost alot of respect for Riggins after all of this. It was bad enough that he said what he said, but then he laughingly took some shots at Buges after he defended Gibbs. The thing that really makes me upset about this is today on his show, he keeps going on about how he really doesn't have anything to base this on, outside of Gibbs spending what he felt was too many hours at Redskin Park. Question is, if he is spending so much time there, wouldn't that be a sign of being COMMITTED, and not the other way around as Riggins suggests?

Another thing too, before the Bucs game, I heard Riggins say that the best thing for this team would be to lose a few games (to paraphrase). Something along the lines of tempering fans expectations. What kind of crap is that? That has Pasquerelli written all over it.

akhhorus
09-23-2004, 08:26 PM
I surprised George Gimbull could cry, I thought the plastic surgery destroyed his tear ducts.

PennSkinsFan
09-23-2004, 08:30 PM
Listen, I don't understand where Rigggo's statements are coming from,a nd particularly, i don't give a damn. Joe Gibbs did not come back to do a half assed job. Gibbs woudl not put his reputation on line, after entering the Hall of Fame, just to come back and flop. Gibbs does not klnow how to go into somethign half hearted. he did not do it here in the 80's and did not do it in NASCAR. Riggo's statement are bothersome to me. He probably has not even talked ot Joe that much since Joe's return. He was basically looking at the lack of offensive punch and make a far feteched whacked out statement to explain the lack of offense.

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 08:30 PM
I surprised George Gimbull could cry, I thought the plastic surgery destroyed his tear ducts.
:lol1:

BurgundyNGold
09-23-2004, 08:31 PM
Listen, I don't understand where Rigggo's statements are coming from,a nd particularly, i don't give a damn. Joe Gibbs did not come back to do a half assed job. Gibbs woudl not put his reputation on line, after entering the Hall of Fame, just to come back and flop. Gibbs does not klnow how to go into somethign half hearted. he did not do it here in the 80's and did not do it in NASCAR. Riggo's statement are bothersome to me. He probably has not even talked ot Joe that much since Joe's return. He was basically looking at the lack of offensive punch and make a far feteched whacked out statement to explain the lack of offense.
Did you think Pastabelly and the Know-Nothing Mafia got to Riggo?

Hailyeah
09-23-2004, 08:50 PM
Obviously, I was unable to hear the controversial comments. I would say that Riggo has always seemed to have a crazy slant on football and life. He's entitled to his opinion, although I can understand how people are upset. I will say to #44 that it was one game. A game in which the defense kept us in it despite 7 TOs. NO ONE should be making any dramatic proclamations after week 2. Unless you're Vermeil with the 'diaper' comment in KC. That was just cool. :cool:

hail2skins
09-23-2004, 08:52 PM
None of us know how Gibbs return will turn out. He can be successful and he can fail. My money says that he'll be successful with 2-3 years. Gibbs is trying very hard to get the attention off of him. He even said he doesn't like it and he's fed up with it. Leave the man alone and let him do his job. Riggins was very wrong for his comments especially having nothing to base them on. He doesn't look the same standing on the sidelines. What a crock. And then to attack Buges as rskinsfan10 mentioned. Yeah, I heard it too and did not like it all. I'm sure he'll get a nice welcome at Redskins Park if he's ever invited back there.

Spence
09-23-2004, 09:33 PM
I think George Michael should, in the immortal words of John Riggins, "loosen up, baby." Riggo isn't paid to offer opinions, he's paid to offer interesting opinions. One of the things I like about Riggo is that he does not take himself seriously and makes it pretty clear that no one else should either.

I don't see what the big deal is.

rskinsfan10
09-23-2004, 09:41 PM
I think George Michael should, in the immortal words of John Riggins, "loosen up, baby." Riggo isn't paid to offer opinions, he's paid to offer interesting opinions. One of the things I like about Riggo is that he does not take himself seriously and makes it pretty clear that no one else should either.

I don't see what the big deal is.

I think to seemingly accuse Gibbs of "not being totally here", to say "Gibbs is wondering why he came back", then to say that you are just going on a hunch (to paraphrase) is sort of irresponsible IMO.

dj_stouty
09-23-2004, 09:41 PM
I don't see what the big deal is.

I'm with you on this one, Spence. Riggins simply doesn't think Gibbs will have quick success like the majority of us do. He is "in tune" with the team just as much or as little as we are. Who is to say his opinion isn't any more credible than any of ours.

Ever since Gibbs came back, Riggo on several occasions, has said he thought it would take Gibbs many games to get back into the full swing of things. Why is that any different than what he is saying now?

rskinsfan10
09-23-2004, 09:44 PM
I'm with you on this one, Spence. Riggins simply doesn't think Gibbs will have quick success like the majority of us do. He is "in tune" with the team just as much or as little as we are. Who is to say his opinion isn't any more credible than any of ours.

Ever since Gibbs came back, Riggo on several occasions, has said he thought it would take Gibbs many games to get back into the full swing of things. Why is that any different than what he is saying now?

He is contradicting himself. He went on the record and predicted 11-5 this year. That to me sounds like quick success, so it seems that Riggins is suddenly changing his stance.

padraic
09-23-2004, 10:08 PM
Its called respect i know that Riggo is now a media guy, but you do not talk that way about some one who loves you, yes i said love. You know gibbs loves riggens for his years in washington and for being a true redskin, we have all been wronged by someone we love and that hurts alot more then someone we could care less about. Respect in that Gibbs is an older person and you do not question someone's mental state. I would say that Riggens owes him respect for making him the player he was but that is a two way street. I think right now Joe is disapionted in him more then anything, its like a father and son kind of diapiontment. Riggo has always been a bit of a A-Hole but he was our A-Hole now he is doing his thing for the whole country and its not cool no more.

PA Skins Girl
09-23-2004, 10:14 PM
There's only 1 person Redskin fans love more that Riggo, and that's Gibbs. Given the choice, we'll side with Gibbs. It's a shame we have to choose.

hail2skins
09-23-2004, 10:14 PM
Ever since Gibbs came back, Riggo on several occasions, has said he thought it would take Gibbs many games to get back into the full swing of things. Why is that any different than what he is saying now?

I too have said it will take Gibbs awhile to get back into the swing of things but I said it just like that. To me saying "He's questioning why he came back" doesn't translate to "it will take him awhile to get into the swing of things". To me that questions his committment and I don't think any of us would agree that Gibbs would do something half-azzed.

Axegrinder
09-23-2004, 10:19 PM
Wasn't Gibbs 0-5 in his first stint here.Forget 'bout it!!!

Skins57
09-23-2004, 10:39 PM
I once read a while back that Riggo said he wasn't even a Skins fan. I have never liked him on TV or whatever. When he left the field, I have no respect for him just because I think he is a big mouth. That being said, I could care less what he says and pay no mind to him. Redskins Report should be interesting this week, Iwonder if they had to pull George off of him during taping :D

jonesy
09-23-2004, 11:07 PM
Ya no big deal, Joe is uptight and rightly so, he is human and he does care and he has to go through stuff, he said himself this aint gonna be easy, I can see Riggo laughing after seeing all the hardship and wondering what Gibbs "might" be thinking about all this. The Gibbs is not into it part, he has a right to wonder, I disagree with Riggo, I hope Gibbs is into it...but he knows Gibbs better than any of us.

Lets not get our panties in a wad, Riggo rules and of course Gibbs does.

We know Riggo is a loose cannon, but he is our son, our brother lets not disown him.

Meatsnack
09-23-2004, 11:44 PM
athletes should be seen and not heard. As a *sob!* Bullets fan, I used to induce motion sickness shaking my head at stuff that would come out of players’ mouths. A wiser friend set me straight.

With rare exceptions, players are meant to be admired from afar like supermodels (can’t see the track marks) and royalty (don’t notice the sixth toe). My personal favorite exception being Dexter Manley’s line, “Grapefruit, the Breakfast of Champions,” after “Dikka” had remarked that Dexter had the IQ of a grapefruit and we went on to best Da Bears in the NFC championship game.

Nothing about the Diesel’s past suggests that he thinks at all about anything that passes out of his mouth or any other orifice. Most of us old-timers know the story of him passed out and posing as a yellow fountain in a team meeting. I would spare the mental upset at his remarks and channel it into getting a serious mad on at the team from cow-town.

First post – thanks for having me.

LadyNRedskinsfan
09-23-2004, 11:51 PM
:welcome: to hR Meatsnack! welcome to your second home......i hope you stick around.

btw-excellent signature! lol.....

RedskinsVision
09-24-2004, 12:18 AM
I think George Michael should, in the immortal words of John Riggins, "loosen up, baby." Riggo isn't paid to offer opinions, he's paid to offer interesting opinions. One of the things I like about Riggo is that he does not take himself seriously and makes it pretty clear that no one else should either.

I don't see what the big deal is.

so Riggo using the terms, "psychological splitting" and phrases like, "he's there physically but mentally he's somewhere else." and (about Gibbs) "gosh, is the right decision i made here"..."it's translating into his offense because he isn't forceful."

that's not offering "interesting opinions".. it's an indictment of his doubts on Gibbs due to his age and health. on Redskins Report that's what he always harps on.. he thinks his health is worst than it was and wonders how much longer he can go. if he's giving opinions on why he thinks Gibbs will fail then that's fine.. but to question his mental and physical health and blatantly telling everyone that his mind is somewhere else is very irresponsible. be skeptical all he wants.. but at least respect the man who got him to where he is instead of accusing him of being a senior citizen and looking like it.

JoeDaSchmoe
09-24-2004, 12:31 AM
Good for George. He spoke for all Redskins fans when he defended Gibbs like that. I still can't see how Riggo could possibly think all that after spending his best years and winning a Super Bowl under Gibbs. It's unbelievable.

Shabba
09-24-2004, 12:46 AM
I have seen and read fans, even here, rip George Michael up one side and down the other but he really is a good sports figure and he loves the Redskins.
I'm sure Riggo does too but you have to know that you can't say certain things about Joe Gibbs.
This is intresting.

CowboyKilla
09-24-2004, 01:38 AM
Back in the hey day my father had dinner at some function and Riggo was one of the guests at his table. They talked a little but pops said Riggo was totally drunk and classless with several people at the table. By the end of the night he needed help getting to the car. The moral...

Just because you are a skins legend does not mean you can't be a Jerk. It doesn't surprise me in the least that he of all would say something like that. I do respect what he has to say b/c he knows gibbs, I just don't think you have to come out and let the whole world know about it. Especially given it's connotation.

IowaSkinsFan
09-24-2004, 07:21 AM
I think to seemingly accuse Gibbs of "not being totally here", to say "Gibbs is wondering why he came back", then to say that you are just going on a hunch (to paraphrase) is sort of irresponsible IMO.

Agree with Kenny on this one.

Riggo's place in NFL lore would not be secure without Joe Gibbs. He should remember that the only reason people want to interview him is because of what Joe Gibbs did for his career. If it weren't for Joe, the best thing Riggo would be known for would be his mohawk.

dj_stouty
09-24-2004, 09:18 AM
Agree with Kenny on this one.

Riggo's place in NFL lore would not be secure without Joe Gibbs. He should remember that the only reason people want to interview him is because of what Joe Gibbs did for his career. If it weren't for Joe, the best thing Riggo would be known for would be his mohawk.

I agree that Riggo owes Joe a lot during his playing years. But as a member of the media, he certainly can't let his relationship with his old team/coach get in the way of being truthful in his opinion. Isn't that the exact same reason why we blast Pastabelly on a weekly basis? We do it because he allows his personal feelings towards our owner/club to get in the way, which we all deem as wrong. I don't think we can have it both ways on this...

I definitely don't agree with everything he has said on the subject, but he does bring up good talking points. Joe's health should be a concern to the fans. I've worried about that since the day he had a diabetic attack when wooing Brunell. As George Michaels said, Gibbs is putting in MORE time at Redskins Park than he has in the past. If that is the case, then I think there is a little room for concern.

I don't believe for one second that Gibbs is not into this 100% mentally. Riggo is definitely wrong in that aspect. We all know that Gibbs prepares better than any HC in the history of the league. I'm not sure where he is going with that...

Spence
09-24-2004, 09:22 AM
I think to seemingly accuse Gibbs of "not being totally here", to say "Gibbs is wondering why he came back", then to say that you are just going on a hunch (to paraphrase) is sort of irresponsible IMO.Yeah, but don't you think accusing Riggo of being irresponsible is sort of like accusing the Pope of being too old and too Catholic? I mean, Riggo IS irresponsible. He was irresponsible with the Jets, with the Redskins, and ever since his playing days ended. He's a lovable, laughable, goof-off. I've always thought he would have been great on Monday Night Football. People would have tuned in just to hear what he'd say next.

NamVet4
09-24-2004, 09:40 AM
It's no secret to anyone that my ALL time Redskin favorite is the Diesel!
And Spence is absolutely right! Riggo is a goof-off, some time inebriated, Jock who loves life and lets his mouth go before engaging his brain, sometimes! And that's why I love him. Take it for what its worth! And if you did not like the way he said what he said, o.k.! Don't you think there are fans that are thinking along those lines? The "Boss Hog " answered back to him and that's good too! No one ever denied the fact that our Family has squabbles and spats - That's what makes our Beloved Team so great !

Ohiofan
09-24-2004, 11:07 AM
i do not understand all the uproar. I think Joe is great & his return is the best news in sport I have had in a decade. But that does not mean he is beyond criticism. Gibss' playcalling has been rather conservative. Reliance upon Brunell, who looks like he is about 62 years old on the field, is debatable. I think Joe is adjusting t the new game and over a period of time he will succeed. But that does not mean that Riggo should be crucified because he expresses a disapproving opinon of Joe so far.

MrWiggles
09-24-2004, 11:32 AM
There's only 1 person Redskin fans love more that Riggo, and that's Gibbs. Given the choice, we'll side with Gibbs. It's a shame we have to choose.

Why do we have to choose? Riggo said something not very nice about Gibbs. Since he's a member of the media I doubt it will be the least time. Why do we have to pick one or the other? Is their going to be a rumble or something?

I liked both of these guys before the statements and I still do. If there is any serious problem (which I doubt) let those two work it out.

hail2skins
09-24-2004, 12:27 PM
i do not understand all the uproar. I think Joe is great & his return is the best news in sport I have had in a decade. But that does not mean he is beyond criticism. Gibss' playcalling has been rather conservative. Reliance upon Brunell, who looks like he is about 62 years old on the field, is debatable. I think Joe is adjusting t the new game and over a period of time he will succeed. But that does not mean that Riggo should be crucified because he expresses a disapproving opinon of Joe so far.

So the same can be said for pastajelly? Criticizing is one thing but questioning the mans committment is another in my book.

When you say Gibbs has been conservative in his playcalling, what exactly do you mean? He's calling too many runs? He's not calling enough long passes? Gibbs is calling the plays, but the players are executing them.

Skins4life
09-24-2004, 01:06 PM
i do not understand all the uproar. I think Joe is great & his return is the best news in sport I have had in a decade. But that does not mean he is beyond criticism. Gibss' playcalling has been rather conservative. Reliance upon Brunell, who looks like he is about 62 years old on the field, is debatable. I think Joe is adjusting t the new game and over a period of time he will succeed. But that does not mean that Riggo should be crucified because he expresses a disapproving opinon of Joe so far.

I don't think we are crucifying (sp?) Riggo. I for one think that he is WAY out of line to say these things will very little evidence and to a coach that made him who he is/was. Even if this was the 8th game, and we were 3-5 - to say those things about a man who works harder and is more respected than any other coach in the league is just wrong. I for one, lost ALL not just "a little notch" of my respect for the guy.

BIGSEF3
09-24-2004, 01:38 PM
fill me in please, what on earth would make riggins dog gibbs so badly to the public? is there some bad blood there that i dont know about?

1stdownguy
09-24-2004, 02:18 PM
As a huge Riggo fan I am disappointed about the comments made. I'm looking forward to his remarks tomorrow night. I also saw George on Thurs. Thats the kind of heart all of us redskins should have...Lets hear it Monday night!!!

PA Skins Girl
09-24-2004, 02:38 PM
Why do we have to choose? Riggo said something not very nice about Gibbs. Since he's a member of the media I doubt it will be the least time. Why do we have to pick one or the other? Is their going to be a rumble or something?

I liked both of these guys before the statements and I still do. If there is any serious problem (which I doubt) let those two work it out.
Well, when he says Gibbs is there in body but not in mind, that is a direct slam on Gibbs' committment to the team. I dont mind when people say Gibbs is gonna fail cause he's too old or the game has changed, or whatever. But to say he is not committed to this team, that is an attack of Gibbs' character. If you try to attack his character, it makes me very defensive because my sentiments for Gibbs and for his character are so personal. So, by getting defensive, I start to take sides.

I will always love Riggo for the excitement that he brought to this town. I have his picture in my basement, right next to Gibbs, Art Monk and Darrell Green. But if he continues to question Joe Gibbs' committment, he will alienate himself from me and from many Skins fans.

whitskins
09-24-2004, 03:19 PM
This thing really got me emotional - Let me say this right now...WITH RIGGO ASSAILING GIBBS AND LAVAR OUT OF ACTION - THIS TEAM IS IN DIRE NEED OF ITS 12TH MAN!!!! GEAR UP, PEOPLE - ITS ALMOST FRIGGIN SHOWTIME!!!!!

Even if it's just you and me SuperSkin let's just take this thing over and quake FedEx on Monday Night. Thankfully though it won't be just you and me, we'll have 92,000 of our closest friends creating absolute insanity on national television.

This one is to get the pride back. To begin a new era of Redskins football. Screw the doubters and the haters, this time we take it back for good. Let's be the 12th man like this team has never seen and LET'S WIN THIS GAME!!!!

Shabba
09-24-2004, 03:28 PM
fill me in please, what on earth would make riggins dog gibbs so badly to the public? is there some bad blood there that i dont know about?

I don't see this as dogging the coach. John was just expressing his thoughts. I don't think there is any problems between the two, at least not until now.

Axegrinder
09-24-2004, 03:29 PM
I have a picture of Riggins and I'm turning it down and covering it up until this situation is rectified.If his response is deemed appropriate,he'll return to his place of reverence.

sdredskinsfan
09-24-2004, 07:58 PM
Even my friend the Eagles fan knows that Gibbs is feeling his way through and will eventually figure it out.

sdredskinsfan
09-24-2004, 08:00 PM
i do not understand all the uproar. I think Joe is great & his return is the best news in sport I have had in a decade. But that does not mean he is beyond criticism. Gibss' playcalling has been rather conservative. Reliance upon Brunell, who looks like he is about 62 years old on the field, is debatable. I think Joe is adjusting t the new game and over a period of time he will succeed. But that does not mean that Riggo should be crucified because he expresses a disapproving opinon of Joe so far.

I agree. But Riggo is going way beyond a "disapproving opinion".

redwolf1218
09-24-2004, 09:54 PM
Well, when he says Gibbs is there in body but not in mind, that is a direct slam on Gibbs' committment to the team.

my sentiments exactly. is Riggo saying Gibbs is thinking about his racing team? like he is here for the money and nothing else? didnt he say his son is running the racing team, and that his son was basically running it before he took this job? wasnt he ready to return to coaching, because of his son's involvement with the leadership of the racing team, and thus he had discussion with the Falcons about a return to coaching, but decided the Redskins were the only team he could return to in good conscience? didnt he, immediately upon accepting the job, surround himself with the league's most experienced, and subsequently highest paid, coaching staff? are these the actions of a man whose mind is "somewhere else"? i dont get Riggo's comments at all, except for the fact that he has a history of mixing pain killers with alcohol and making controversial comments to the media. probably the only thing that has kept him out of a top level commentating career, given the fact that he is such a colorful personality. like someone else posted earlier, imagine how good he'd be on something like monday night football...but then imagine what boundaries he might step over, as has been his defining history throughout his career. to quote his own words, Riggo needs to "loosen up".