Bench Portis

[CamLwalk]

...for a quarter or a half. Give it to Betts. Fumble like that? Sit the fark down. I'm serious.

[Skins4life]

yeah....thats the answer. Take a guy who has been dogged by the media and make him sit the bench. Take a guy who has blammed himself for EVERY loss and make him sit the bench. Granted - he has way too many turnovers, enough for one season - but what would making him sit the bench do? Nothing. Whoa.....wait, you have a phone call.............it's reality, they want you to GET REAL!!!!!!!!!

[RedskinsVision]

Fumble like that? Sit the fark down. I'm serious.

You fargin bastage! Why you miserable cork sucker!

[SkinsKY]

What's your damage little brother? Daunte Culpeper averages over one fumble per game and you don't see Tice pointing to the pine pony. Ahman Green tends to cough it up and Sherman isn't sitting him. You don't sit Portis here. You bust him through drills all week and then you start him showing confidence in him. Let's not be foolish.

[riskus]

its way too early to consider benching him

[Skinz4lyfe]

Well it looks Betts will be getting a little more PT because Gibbs is saying he wants to keep Portis fresh. I'm all for that because I don't want him to be tired by week 13 or so when we might need him the most. But we can't sit Portis down for an extended period of time. With an injured Lavar, Portis is arguably our biggest asset right now.

[sdredskinsfan]

You're right. Portis' fumbles have to stop. But, benching him for an extended period of time is not the answer right now.

[dabro]

Hey, if he's turning the ball over, he's hurting the team. I'd like to see Betts in long enough to get into the flow of the game, and then see what HE can do. Frankly, since the first game, Portis hasn't done much, anyway.

[sdredskinsfan]

Hey, if he's turning the ball over, he's hurting the team. I'd like to see Betts in long enough to get into the flow of the game, and then see what HE can do. Frankly, since the first game, Portis hasn't done much, anyway.

He wouldn't do much better given the lack of holes to run through lately. And he's not the receiver Portis is. But, if Portis continues to put the ball on the ground and the offense remains stagnant, then almost any NFL-caliber back would be an improvement.

[Chief Seeway]

One thing is for sure, there are far too many fans under the impression that Portis was/is going to challenge the single game rushing yards record, EVERY WEEK.

[IndianBaller27]

You fargin bastage! Why you miserable cork sucker!
:lol1:
GottaJibboo, you're just another "BIGSEF3 type."
I wanna see Betts carry the ball more, but I don't want to bench Portis! That's crazy. Why would you bench the highest paid RB in the NFL?!?! That's fargin' retarted! :D

[bfauble83]

No, don't bench Portis...I think we should use Betts a little more...inside the 10 especially.

[dj_stouty]

If Portis fumbles tonight...I would have no problem sitting him for an entire quarter.

[ihatedallas]

He'll lose some touches, but not a quarter and a half....He wont fumble tonight

[CarMike]

Coach Gibbs know how to handle these kind of situations. I'll leave it up to him...

For me though, the last thing you'd want to do is sit Portis for an extended amount of time. I'd rather have a player who has been called out by the media and fans playing. Hopefully he'll have a chip on his shoulder and will play with purpose...

[Chief Seeway]

No, don't bench Portis...I think we should use Betts a little more...inside the 10 especially.

Agreed. When I heard of Gibbs' return, one of the first things I thought of was a Gerald Riggs type player pounding it on goal line situations.

[rskinsfan10]

One thing is for sure, there are far too many fans under the impression that Portis was/is going to challenge the single game rushing yards record, EVERY WEEK.
Tell me about it. I've noticed that the 2000yd season talk has come to a grinding halt also.

[CamLwalk]

Hey! Noone wants Portis to light it up more than I do. I just want to shake his tree a little. Start Betts tonight for the 1st quarter. Send a message. Hell, piss him off a little. We need more production and more ball security from the RB position than we're getting.

[RedskinRyan]

its a little early to be talking about benching portis. he had bad games against cleveland and the giants. and he felt that he didnt fumble on that play vs the brownies, which is why it was challenged. the dallas fumble was just whatever. i thought he played great in that game. he also made some blocks, so keep him in. remember, betts wasnt exactly mr. glue hands himself either. but i do want to see him get some more carries.

[chad101]

This game is our season......NO time to bench Portis.

This is a must win.....motivate/experiment when/if we are 1-6 but not now.

[NCskinsfanatic]

It all starts upfront and when they start blocking then our RBs will start moving the chains.

[TupaFan]

I wouldn't bench Portis. Hopefully, the fumbles will stop. He is an amazing runner.

[bgforever]

Naa. Players have to be allowed to play through their funk. Do I think that if he fumbles this game, he sits. You bet. You do have to draw a line, but face it, even when he's struggling the defense has to honor him, where as with Betts, they can pin their ears back, even on the run.

I saw Justin Fargas, just score against the Colts and what Norv did with that line, was an old Counter Trey move, with a wrinkle. He "misdirected" the blocking to each side with counters, using Sapp on the left, making them think it be a run to his side and then they motioned the TE to the other side, countered the blocking in that direction, Fargas took two steps and leaped up the middle in the soft spot - Nobody home - Touchdown.


That's exactly what you do with fast, strong D line and have a back that run, catch, throw, leap and has speed.

Hopefully we can use Portis more on plays that don't go up the middle as much until we are also at the goal line.

[bball7980]

It all starts upfront and when they start blocking then our RBs will start moving the chains.

It all starts up front on both sides of the ball. But I agree with you the o-line is not playing as well as they could. I wasn't a fan pf the Portis-Bailey trade but it is already done so the o-line needs to start blocking for Portis. I think it is just a matter of time. We can't bench Portis though.

[NamVet4]

To those who want to do it . . .
92 carries, 4+ yards per cary, 2 TD's and 4 fumbles . . .
You want to bench him? ? ? ? Worse yet, maybe not start him?
I don't think so . . . Give him a blow once in a while ? -OK!
He is still in the top 10 RB's in the entire league !
Relax . . .

[LATrueRedskin]

Get after Portis during the week, DON'T bench him for any time during the game. I think Portis knows not to fumble the football.

[PyroGenic]

does anybody else think that we don't run the ball enough and don't allow portis to get a rhythm? I swear the announcers say that he has a 5.5 ypc average and then we get pass happy and brunell starts yellling about something yellow at the line.

[IndianBaller27]

Hey! Noone wants Portis to light it up more than I do. I just want to shake his tree a little. Start Betts tonight for the 1st quarter. Send a message. Hell, piss him off a little. We need more production and more ball security from the RB position than we're getting.
He got pissed off a few plays before the fumble last week

[whitskins]

...for a quarter or a half. Give it to Betts. Fumble like that? Sit the fark down. I'm serious.

This is a laughable sentiment.

[hockeygoalie29]

Why not bench him. While your at it, bench both Gardner and Coles 'cause they dropped balls. Bench Taylor 'cause he missed an assignment. Bench the entire O line 'cause they haven't oppened holes. In fact, bench the entire team since we're 1-3. Let Gibbs and the rest of our coaching staff play themselves!

[sdredskinsfan]

its a little early to be talking about benching portis. he had bad games against cleveland and the giants. and he felt that he didnt fumble on that play vs the brownies, which is why it was challenged. the dallas fumble was just whatever. i thought he played great in that game. he also made some blocks, so keep him in. remember, betts wasnt exactly mr. glue hands himself either. but i do want to see him get some more carries.

I didn't know he felt that way. That bothers me a little bit. I think it was a fumble. But more importantly, it was clearly his fault that he did not hold on to the football; there was neither an attempted strip nor a jarring hit.

[bexskins1]

we cant bench him now...the whole offense is struggling...benching portis would just make things worse :typeR2: GIVE HIM THE BALL MORE NOT LESS!

[colkurtz]

We have NO DEEP THREAT in the passing game (with Brunnell). That means teams can jam our running game. If we had a passer who could strectch the field, this would make holes for Mr. Portis.

He should not be fumbling, but the lack of a deep passing game and play calling from the coach are real reasons that we have an average running game. If Brunnell can open up long and actually scare the other team, the running game will be there.

[SkinsKY]

I didn't know he felt that way. That bothers me a little bit. I think it was a fumble. But more importantly, it was clearly his fault that he did not hold on to the football; there was neither an attempted strip nor a jarring hit.


I'm pretty sure he took responsibility for the fumble. He might have thought the play was over and left the ball out, but I don't think he tried to dodge blame for it afterwards.

[smack500]

Theres nothing wrong with portis hes an awesome rb, and has proven that already.

Now I admit I dont know as much about football, as probally half the people on this board. But from I have seen, ( I think even an acouncer from tonite mentioned it) is that we dont use him right. Seems our offence is set up for a power runner like jamal lewis, especially our red zone offence. Portis is not a power runner, and I think either we have to setup more plays for him, or hes going to have to change to play better with our current plays. If were going to get some good yardage, and points out of him anyway.

[Shabba]

You are absolutly right. Portis is a slasher with quickness...an attack runner and not a read first, follow your block type runner,
Some of us had this concern at the beginning of the season but others here said it would not be a problem for Portis to operate effectively in Gibbs offensive scheme but he does not fit. He looks average at best. I bet if he was back in Denver, he would have way more yards than he does here because of the system.
Plain and simple, he is not a Joe Gibbs type runner.

[NamVet4]

You are absolutly right. Portis is a slasher with quickness...an attack runner and not a read first, follow your block type runner,
Some of us had this concern at the beginning of the season but others here said it would not be a problem for Portis to operate effectively in Gibbs offensive scheme but he does not fit. He looks average at best. I bet if he was back in Denver, he would have way more yards than he does here because of the system.
Plain and simple, he is not a Joe Gibbs type runner.

There is no such thing as a "Joe Gibbs type runner" . . . Portis is still a quality better than average RB! I have faith in Coach Gibbs to correct the scheme and Coach Bugel to work the O-Line to use Portis' skill to work in favor of the team. We can't go 3 and out and expect the runing game to develop.

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