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CarMike
10-11-2004, 10:06 AM
Should a freshman be qualified to win the Heisman Trophy?

Of course, I'm talking about Adrian Peterson, RB of Oklahoma.

He rushed for over 200 yards against a top notch program. He's been having big games since the season began.

On top of that. He's a true freshman.
CarMike
10-11-2004, 10:09 AM
I say why not? If he continues to play that well, and the Sooners win the BCS, he shouldn't be penalized for what year he's in in college.

Thoughts?
padraic
10-11-2004, 12:27 PM
no doubt if he is playing he should be abel to win any prize out there and i would love to hear why someone would say he should not be able to win it.
CarMike
10-11-2004, 12:31 PM
Agreed.

I would love to hear the reason from the 1 person who voted no....
IowaSkinsFan
10-11-2004, 01:39 PM
Should a freshman be qualified to win the Heisman Trophy?

Of course, I'm talking about Adrian Peterson, RB of Oklahoma.

He rushed for over 200 yards against a top notch program. He's been having big games since the season began.

On top of that. He's a true freshman.

If he is the best, then year shouldn't matter.
RoanokeSkin
10-11-2004, 01:42 PM
The guy is a freak. Peterson has been spectacular. If he continues to have a great year and they still give it to Leinart, I might puke.
Axegrinder
10-11-2004, 04:06 PM
Of Course!!!
Too bad the press puts so much emphasis on older players instead of who's the best.
akhhorus
10-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Peterson's been great and he'll win a Heisman soon, but I think this year belongs to Orton or Rodgers.
CarMike
10-11-2004, 04:16 PM
Peterson's been great and he'll win a Heisman soon, but I think this year belongs to Orton or Rodgers.

Even if Peterson is better? Not arguing. Just wondering...
rskinsfan10
10-11-2004, 04:17 PM
To answer the question, I say "yes".
NCskinsfanatic
10-11-2004, 11:06 PM
He suits up just like the upper classmen he should be considered.
LATrueRedskin
10-12-2004, 11:42 AM
Yep, every player should be eligible to win the Heisman.
Skinzaholic
10-12-2004, 04:28 PM
I voted "No" - and here is why. The Heisman has become a joke due to one main reason - it is awarded based on the stats of one solid year... maybe two. How many times have we seen a Heisman trophy candidate fail miserably in the NFL? Last years Heisman contest was completely biased...

A freshman comes in a performs great (Such as Peterson)... but is he an all around dominant college player as the trophy celebrates? Perhaps on occassion - but normally no - turns out to be just a fluke year.

I think the Heisman should be reserved for graduating seniors who have performed above the rest their entire college careers.

I know... there are holes in this theory - but it is my view for now.
akhhorus
10-12-2004, 04:32 PM
I voted "No" - and here is why. The Heisman has become a joke due to one main reason - it is awarded based on the stats of one solid year... maybe two. How many times have we seen a Heisman trophy candidate fail miserably in the NFL? Last years Heisman contest was completely biased...

A freshman comes in a performs great (Such as Peterson)... but is he an all around dominant college player as the trophy celebrates? Perhaps on occassion - but normally no - turns out to be just a fluke year.

I think the Heisman should be reserved for graduating seniors who have performed above the rest their entire college careers.

I know... there are holes in this theory - but it is my view for now.

I agree there should be an award for a Senior who was great for 4 years, but I do think that the Heisman should be for the Best Player for that specific season.
SkinsKY
10-12-2004, 04:35 PM
I agree there should be an award for a Senior who was great for 4 years, but I do think that the Heisman should be for the Best Player for that specific season.

Those are my thoughts as well. The NCAA should reward Seniors who stay four years, but any player should be eligible for the Heisman.
Skinzaholic
10-12-2004, 04:56 PM
I agree there should be an award for a Senior who was great for 4 years, but I do think that the Heisman should be for the Best Player for that specific season.

I can understand that thought - and even agree with it's reasoning - but unfortunately the Heisman is treated as the former and not as the latter. This (to me) makes the Heisman an inaccurate measurmeent of the outstanding college football player in most cases.
Spence
10-12-2004, 04:58 PM
My view is that freshmen should not be playing college sports, but if they're going to do it, they should be eligible to win that award.
CarMike
10-12-2004, 05:22 PM
the thing about senior awards is this. Most players who are in the Heisman hunt don't stay for their senior year. The leave for the NFL. Now if it were for Jrs. and Srs., then I'd agree.

But the Heisman is supposed to go to the best player for that year. Not what he has done for his college career.

JMO....:)
IowaSkinsFan
10-16-2004, 10:15 AM
My view is that freshmen should not be playing college sports.

Why do you hate freedom?
IndianBaller27
10-20-2004, 07:39 PM
Anyone should be eligible to win the Heisman IMO.
ShaggySkins
10-20-2004, 10:23 PM
A freshman should be eligible but realistically no freshman will ever win the Heisman. The media likes to award those players who have been in college for 3 or more years. It would take an absolutely amazing year by any freshman to win the Heisman.
smoot
10-20-2004, 10:24 PM
yes



...hey, i just answered the question
BRAVEONAWARPATH
10-21-2004, 10:21 AM
The Heisman is supposed to go to the best player in the land
..not the best player who's not a freshman. I stopped putting
stock in the award long ago..when I saw how it just ignored
defensive players.
Spence
10-22-2004, 11:12 AM
Why do you hate freedom? :) Good one. I believe the NCAA used to have a rule against freshmen playing college sports. I'm not sure if it applied to all college sports or not, but I think it applied to big ones like basketball and football. I think that was a good rule and I'm sure they got rid of it for monetary reasons. [That appears to be the motivation for every decision relating to collegiate athletics.] My hunch is that freshmen need more time to acclimate to the college environment and learn to deal with their studies. I also think that a freshman who takes his studies seriously is more likely to continue to do so later, even if he is playing college sports.
TheBigGame
10-22-2004, 11:14 AM
i dunno about true freshmen.....maybe....but with redshirt, they should definately have a chance to win the trophy!
Axegrinder
10-24-2004, 09:30 AM
Should a freshman be qualified to win the Heisman Trophy?

Of course, I'm talking about Adrian Peterson, RB of Oklahoma.

He rushed for over 200 yards against a top notch program. He's been having big games since the season began.

On top of that. He's a true freshman.
Read the 3rd paragraph of this....http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/recaps/2004/10/23/24494_recap.html
Does this qualify?He's in good company!
RedskinRyan
10-27-2004, 04:35 PM
if he's playing, he can win it. the heisman goes to the best (offensive) player of the year. im 99% sure that charles woodson beat out peyton manning though, so dont rule defensive players out. generally, it goes to a great statistical year, and normally players just dont have them, although you could argue for terrell suggs. AD(all day) is having a phenomenal year, and right now i think he is trailing only orton for the heisman, but dont count out leinart.