hRs official game thread: Packers-vs-Redskins!

[CarMike]

Talk it up here guys/gals! Should be a great game today...

[PennSkinsFan]

Damn, Morton almost broke it

[funnyperson1]

Nice effort from Clinton

[funnyperson1]

Good play from Gardner getting the first down.

[PennSkinsFan]

Gardner did some nice blocking

[NCskinsfanatic]

I like the play calling thus far.

[PennSkinsFan]

Good. Jacobs is in the game

[funnyperson1]

I like the play calling thus far.
I agree, good variety

[sammy]

so far so good

[BSMKF]

getting a little rhythm I like it

[chrisbcbu]

i just hope we use the toss a little more to give portis some room to dance!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

Portis will end up havin a TB type game today IMO.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

baaaaaad baaaad pass....

[funnyperson1]

ugh brunell

[NCskinsfanatic]

We have to punt, damn.

[Carmelo]

it hurts to watch brunell miss throws like that.

[PennSkinsFan]

Jacobs was wide open folks. wide open.

[josh90286]

damn brunell

[sammy]

here we go DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[NCskinsfanatic]

He was throwing against the wind, it sailed on him, but he's gotta make those. Jacobs was wide open.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Holding, move it back.

[Gibbs]

Gardner is Running
because he can't catch

Gardner is throwing
because Brunell can't

This is coaching to the player's strengths

[Skins57]

trippimng on smoot

[NCskinsfanatic]

We just gave the Pack a free 1st down.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Holding, move it back.
it doesnt look like the packers WRs wont be getting much YAC yards....

[NCskinsfanatic]

We have to cause TO's. 3rd down

[Redskin006]

how close to the first down marker was he.

[NCskinsfanatic]

We have to cause to's ......damn 1st down at our 24.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Not having our safeties will hurt against Farve......nice play Smooooot.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Pierce....nice play, held 'em to 3.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

good stop by the D.....

[Redskin006]

good job by the d for preventing the td.

[chrisbcbu]

how did they get the big gain? did the safety not get there in time?

[BSMKF]

Im nervous

[NCskinsfanatic]

Mortons down, and holdingon Marshall.

[PennSkinsFan]

Morton seem injury prone to me

[NCskinsfanatic]

Pass blocking broke down, portis for a couple.....then what happens on3rd and 1 Portis baby, nice blok Cooley.

[Skins57]

why?

[funnyperson1]

Why is brunell so bad. I could have made that play.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Coles nice catch but its 3rd and 1, flag but reused 4th down.

[PennSkinsFan]

Brunell continues to be our offense's worst enemy

[Skins57]

nice hit by sellers

[colkurtz]

high pass by Brunnell, plus holding penalty by 'skins..........

[NCskinsfanatic]

Our D needs to score for us here.

[josh90286]

im slowly becoming more and more open to ramsey

[Redskin006]

foolish decisions continue.

[Skins57]

too many pack fans there

[NCskinsfanatic]

Theres no way Smoot shouldve missed him.

[funnyperson1]

man what an arm

[JakeIron]

looks like our O hasn't really improved during the bye ?

[NCskinsfanatic]

Lott nice hit.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

smoot went too high on that play, but what a call by williams....

[Skins57]

until I see brunell as the problem I will not want a change but if he keeps missing guys and making bad throws we might see Ram

[NCskinsfanatic]

looks like our O hasn't really improved during the bye ?
Maybe not but the playcalling is better. Execution is our problem.

[funnyperson1]

Maybe not but the playcalling is better. Execution is our problem.

Brunell is our problem, he missed two extremely easy passes on the last two drives.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

ryan clark is getting us killed right now........

and phillip daniels sucks as a pass rusher...

[Chief Seeway]

Brunell is 4 for 6? Or is NFL.com wrong?

[Redskin006]

what the hell is going on? three or four huge passes so far.

[PennSkinsFan]

Farve is going to rip this defense to shreds if they do not tighten up. Walt Harris looks like crap

[NCskinsfanatic]

Ugggh......I had a bad feeling about this game without our safeties and against Farve.

[Skins57]

we are going to miss Taylor today

[PennSkinsFan]

Brunell is 4 for 6? Or is NFL.com wrong?

It is the passes on third and short that he overthrows and underthrows that are killing this offense. It is more of the same.

[josh90286]

things looking very simple for the packers

[BSMKF]

things looking very simple for the packers
yea right now it looks to easy for brett farve and the packers

[NCskinsfanatic]

Brunell is our problem, he missed two extremely easy passes on the last two drives.
We also had 2 holding calls and Gardner dropped a pass that hit him in the chest.

[Portisfan89]

with our defense and offense not looking too good...we in for a long day ladies and gentlemen

[Skins57]

It hink we need to blitz and hope we do not get burnt as our safeties are gonna hurt us

[Monk4HOF]

Favre is making us pay for committing so much to stopping Green.

[Redskin006]

i am really, really nervous right now.

[colkurtz]

Defense missing Arrington, Taylor, Bowen, Daniels. Ok against teams like the Bears. Favre is going to rip us up unless we blitz.

[Chief Seeway]

It is the passes on third and short that he overthrows and underthrows that are killing this offense. It is more of the same.

So only two incompletions. It looks like our D is the problem so far. Big plays given up.

[chad101]

Unfortunately this is our first real offense our defense has faced.

May be a long season.

[BSMKF]

we got to stop them here

[Skins57]

yea right now it looks to easy for brett farve and the packers
Brett has done that to amny teams for many years

[BSMKF]

they will go for it they have no respect for our O

[NCskinsfanatic]

10-0, would be tough but thats what it just may be if this is a 1st.

[Jimreaper007]

they will go for it they have no respect for our O


Two bad throws by Brunell have been the difference thus far

[Skins57]

huge play here

[Skins57]

watch franks on a roollout

[BSMKF]

:cry:

[sdredskinsfan]

yea right now it looks to easy for brett farve and the packers

Could it be that our d-line has no rush or something?

[NCskinsfanatic]

Marshall......2nd penalty.

[Skins57]

darn

[Jimreaper007]

Could it be that our d-line has no rush or something?


Favre is negating the rush with quick throws

[BSMKF]

man that hurts hopefully we can score next possesion

[sdredskinsfan]

Two bad throws by Brunell have been the difference thus far

Yep, all Brunell's fault. His fault redskins held on second kick-off. His fault that Favre has had all day to throw. Redskins as a team suck right now.

[NCskinsfanatic]

10-0. Penalties 4 big ones so far. Thats what sticks out to me.

[Redskin006]

we have got to stick to portis and the run. hes gaining big chunks every time he runs.

[chrisbcbu]

this is bad..Favre already has 130 yards passing

[sdredskinsfan]

Favre is negating the rush with quick throws

He threw soooooooooooo quickly on those two long passes. BTW, Springs looks very, very slow. No wonder he's talked about playing safety. He hits like a safety, that's for sure.

[Jimreaper007]

Favre is also picking on the safeties...

Clark let the reciever get behind him on the first bomb and springs should have been underneath.

On the second Bomb the safety broke the golden rule and let a WR get behind him

Favre knows what he is doing and he has an arm to make us pay

[Portisfan89]

why do people keep defending brunell if your watching the game if he doesnt over throw those recievers we could at least came out with 3 or 6 the guy just doenst have it ..point blank you cannot win in the nfl without a qb that can complete passes he stinks point blank

[sdredskinsfan]

we have got to stick to portis and the run. hes gaining big chunks every time he runs.

Yeah, I feel like Gibbs was in such a rush (no pun intended) to prove that he can make the passing game work, that he forgot that Portis is the mainstay.

[Jimreaper007]

Yep, all Brunell's fault. His fault redskins held on second kick-off. His fault that Favre has had all day to throw. Redskins as a team suck right now.


Brunell had two bad throws on two critical posessions

Yep It is Brunell's fault

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

give it to portis!

portis!
portis!
portis!

[sdredskinsfan]

why do people keep defending brunell if your watching the game if he doesnt over throw those recievers we could at least came out with 3 or 6 the guy just doenst have it ..point blank you cannot win in the nfl without a qb that can complete passes he stinks point blank

I'm not defending Brunell as much as I'm pointing out that other areas of team need drastic improvement as well.

[Jimreaper007]

give it to portis!

portis!
portis!
portis!


I agree...

I think we should also give the ball to Ramsey

[Portisfan89]

give it to portis so they can sit 8 in the box ..then what we have to pass right? something we cant do! i hope we can score on this drive

[sdredskinsfan]

give it to portis!

portis!
portis!
portis!

Betts!
Betts!
Betts!

J/k.

[truant]

Think we aren't missing Lavar? What pisses me off is that Marshall had perfect coverage... LOOK FOR THE BALL. The contact was phantom, at best.

this will quickly become a pile on Brunell, but you can't miss wide open players on 3rd down. He does look better but he's gotta get consistent.

I feel sick...

[frankez99]

why do people keep defending brunell if your watching the game if he doesnt over throw those recievers we could at least came out with 3 or 6 the guy just doenst have it ..point blank you cannot win in the nfl without a qb that can complete passes he stinks point blank

Seems odd...last time I checked Brunell doesn't play defense???

[NCskinsfanatic]

Portis for a lot.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

wooo hooo!!

[Jimreaper007]

give it to portis so they can sit 8 in the box ..then what we have to pass right? something we cant do! i hope we can score on this drive


The bottom line is unless we have a QB that can make teams pay downfield, everyone is going to dare portis to run by sticking 8 in the box.

[Redskin006]

15 yards about on the portis run.

[Skins57]

nice pass by Brunell

[NCskinsfanatic]

Plenty of time for Mark, 1stdown.

[Redskin006]

big run opened up coles because more men in the box.

[JakeIron]

I also agree it's not all brunell's fault but we have failed to score 20 or more pts. this season and much has to be credited to the QB for bad O.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Time=completions.

[truant]

Jacobs is the man.

People laughed at me when i said he was our second best WR.

[NCskinsfanatic]

No time=sack lol.

[BSMKF]

man portis missed that :cry:

[Brody]

brune,, is actually 6 of 8 right now.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Portis for a loss on the screen.

[Jimreaper007]

Portis for a loss on the screen.


Gee....when you QB cannot throw deep, it's rather easy to play the redskins


Who didn't know that screen was coming?????

[sdredskinsfan]

It's critical at this point in the game that the d-fense hold the Packers deep in their own territory (assuming Redskins don't make first down or field goal here).

[Chief Seeway]

Giants beating Vikings 17-0 (only fox game I can see here).

[techskinsfan]

They cant finish off a drive

[JakeIron]

we are in desperate need of BIG pass plays. I want to see more 20+ yard plays

[Portisfan89]

Welll we are in trouble if we cant get into field goal range cause our defense cant stop their offense and getting down 17 to 0 wont be good at all

[Monk4HOF]

3 negative plays in a row. Dime package and Brunell only had 1 second to throw.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Gee....when you QB cannot throw deep, it's rather easy to play the redskins


Who didn't know that screen was coming?????
Guess he should block for himself too.

[funnyperson1]

Oh man, what horrible protection.

[sdredskinsfan]

Jacobs is the man.

People laughed at me when i said he was our second best WR.

Commentator said that he believes he is fastest man on team. Thought Coles was the fastest.

[Redskin006]

who sacked brunell, was he waiting to long?

[PennSkinsFan]

This offense is just pathetic. They are even hard to waTCH

[BSMKF]

boy we just look terrible

[techskinsfan]

sonny n sam said 3.1 yds an attempt

[Chief Seeway]

Is the O-line getting dominated (pass protection) as bad as it appears?

[PennSkinsFan]

Once again, nothign has changed for me, every time we get the ball, i have absolutely no confidence we can do anything with it.

[BSMKF]

I was think we were a good team that just had alot of bad breaks but todays game is proving me wrong :cry:

[sdredskinsfan]

boy we just look terrible

Yup. They lose this game then Conrad will be our most popular member for awhile.

[Portisfan89]

man .....im not even going to say what i was about to say but we had a bye week and our offense is playing like the played against the ravens and our defense loook terrible god please help us!

[colkurtz]

This is going to be a long afternoon. Bummer.................

[Redskin006]

as i said earlier, give it to portis. i dont get why after 1 10 yard pass play we start thinking we can pass.

[truant]

The D is on their heels a bit. Need a big play for momentum.

[Monk4HOF]

This is going to be a long year.

[Redskin006]

another big pass. wow.

[BSMKF]

WOW !!!! this is starting to get ugly

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

thats what blitzing will do.

[josh90286]

gettin ugly...

[Jimreaper007]

Guess he should block for himself too.


When the opposition knows that Brunell has a dead arm they can setup their defense in a way that plays all the medium/short routes...

It's not a matter of blocking....it's a matter of game planning.

The coach for the Giants gave every team in the NFL a blueprint on how to beat the redskins because he Knew then that Brunell's arm was limited.

[Portisfan89]

were getting ran over...its a darn shame

[Chief Seeway]

They should put Ramsey in on defense

[JakeIron]

This is going to be a long year.

Yep, I'm already thinking the draft, I want Rodgers !!!!

[colkurtz]

this is a primer on what a outstanding QB can do for your team.

Brunnell is just going to get us a great draft choice this season (for his replacement).....

[truant]

Thats what a player missing an assignment can do. Pierce was lost on that play. Barrow anyone...


TD pack... wow

[BSMKF]

man this is embarassing :banghead:

[Portisfan89]

17-0 This is over fellas

[Monk4HOF]

I am officially ready to bring in Ramsey. He is the only QB on the roster capable of getting the Skins back in this game.

[Redskin006]

what is fedex field like right now? any booing?

[Jimreaper007]

17-0 This is over fellas


Yep....

No chance with noodle arm at QB

[Monk81]

it's ramsey time Brunell has no chance of leading a comeback

[sdredskinsfan]

I'm a proponent of putting in Ramsey. We'll see if he's worth keeping around for next year.

[flave1969]

Hi Guys,
Three Drives. Each with poor or negative playcalling.

Drive One

Gardner throws for the end zone, surely a better first down play, on second down if it does not come off you have third and long.

Drive Two.

Portis is running well. Why pass on third and one.

Drive Three.

Two consecutive first downs.
Portis has run for 37 yards. what do we do pass, sack. Pass again, Screen, lose seven yards.

This team gives up 120 ypg on the ground. Portis has 37 yards on 7 carries. What do you think our focus should be.

Oh yeah it is now 17-0.

[chad101]

Again we played nobody offensively to this point.....our defense is overrated.

[PennSkinsFan]

This game is over folks. Injuries are mounting and we can not and are not capable of responding. Missing guys like Lavar and Taylor is really starting to hurt. Not even sure I will watch the rest, i have crap to do anyway. This is simply painful to watch.

[Jimreaper007]

what is fedex field like right now? any booing?


Plenty

[BSMKF]

They should put Ramsey in on defense
:lol1:

[truant]

Anyone think we have a shot anymore?

.........

[JakeIron]

man this is embarassing :banghead:


to make it worse: this is a HOME game !!!!!

[Redskin006]

Yep....

No chance with noodle arm at QB

agreed

[sdredskinsfan]

what is fedex field like right now? any booing?

They've seemed pretty quiet the whole game actually.

[Santheb]

Mark Brunell is HORRIBLE.

And the defense, you can see it. They are definitley missing LaVar and Sean Taylor. Its blatantly obvious.

Gonna be a long game guys.

[Jimreaper007]

It's all about game planning and Brunell as QB makes the Skins easy to gameplan against



With Ramsey teams will have to respect his arm which helps Portis

[Redskin006]

i think ramsey will be playing pretty soon. i wouldnt mind seeing hasselbeck play over brunnell.

[Portisfan89]

Well fellas i will see u later before i start throwing my t.v around im pissed see u later on tonight

[truant]

This mean Kerry is going to win??

[Skin-E-Dip]

Its actually quite humbling to see how far above us an elite winning team like Green Bay is. Wow we have work to do

[Monk81]

the pack has a week def and their secondary is banged up wit ramsey we have a chance with brunell no comeback we might not even score

[BSMKF]

If we can score here maybe we can get some confidence

[sdredskinsfan]

I'm getting sick of hearing Brunell's loud voice at the line. It's a reminder of the pathetic offense...........kinda like a pavlovian response.

[Santheb]

Brunell intercepted.

[suppitty]

looks like another 37-0 win for the pack like they had a few years ago.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Hey its never over in the first half.......but when your O is struggling and you have a lot of in injuries on your D against Farve it doesnt look good.

[Jimreaper007]

Does anyone want to question why Brunell should go??????

[BSMKF]

Ok its Ramsey time

[Skin-E-Dip]

This mean Kerry is going to win??

Looks like it. Though what if this game was fixed.....Xfiles, conspiracy anyone?

Bush 04

[chad101]

Its actually quite humbling to see how far above us an elite winning team like Green Bay is. Wow we have work to do
ELITE? GREENBAY?

[sdredskinsfan]

Does this mean that the Libertarian will win office?

[Monk4HOF]

Our offensive line and running backs are completely incapable of picking up the blitz. We also need to put some priority on center in the upcoming draft.

[truant]

I want a written explanation as to why we should keep Brunell in...


the chant of Ramsey has begun...

[Santheb]

INTERCEPTION SPRINGS!

[Redskin006]

ramsey should be coming in now. if not, i will have to question gibbs.

[truant]

YEAH SHAWN!!!!!!!

[BSMKF]

could that be what we needed ??

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

where is our *censored by spence* pass protection?

great play by springs....

[kardiac]

That ball hung up because Brunell can not get the ball there.

[Monk81]

finally something good way togo def. ramsey time come on gibbs get that monkey ass brunell out

[Monk4HOF]

Lets hope that that play is similar to the Lavar play against Carolina during the Marty year.

[Jimreaper007]

The defense responds only to have Brunell come out and sap the life out of over 90,000 people.

[bosshog001]

This is horrible to "watch on the internet", but must be even more frustrating to watch the real thing!!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

That ball hung up because Brunell can not get the ball there.
brunell got hit.....

[suppitty]

wow you could really here the ramsey chants after brunell threw the pick, but now springs picked it off. If we dopn't score here we should bench brunell.

[NCskinsfanatic]

SPRINGS........but flags, get this against GB.

[suppitty]

Why can't we take a shot to the endzone after a big play on defense.

[Monk81]

if we don't score here we won't score today

[Redskin006]

who's in at qb?

[Monk4HOF]

Dang, that would have been the perfect chance to bring in Ramsey.

[Portisfan89]

just when i was about to leave lol i was screaming at the top of my lungs Go springs ..but our offense is back on the field !

[suppitty]

That was an obvious case of the defesne knowing the play.

[NCskinsfanatic]

We hav to get 7, Portis for a loss, no ones blocking.

[Skin-E-Dip]

ELITE? GREENBAY?

ELITE MEANING - a team that has been highly conpetitive and has made the playoffs several times in many recent seasons. - such as Philly, New England, KC, St. Louis..and yes I would throw Green Bay in that bunch. When was the last time they were a laughing stock or a bottom dweller?

[Monk81]

brunell probably can't get the ball into the endzone

[flave1969]

where is the blocking

[truant]

GET SPRINGS ON OFFENSE!!!

sorry... just trying to stay entertained over here...

[kardiac]

brunell got hit.....

After he released the ball....second half it has to be Ramsey or Hasselbeck

[BSMKF]

are fans are just booing the hell out of brunnel

[Portisfan89]

fans chanting ramsey

[suppitty]

are fans are just booing the hell out of brunnel
and they should be.

[Redskin006]

good because brunnell is a piece of sh*t

[PennSkinsFan]

I think there will be another overhaul on the offensive lien by Bugel at then end of this season.

[Santheb]

Brunell sacked.

[suppitty]

Awful.

[PennSkinsFan]

Samuels blows.

[NCskinsfanatic]

No blocking, Ramsey wont help that.

[Skin-E-Dip]

This is horrible to "watch on the internet", but must be even more frustrating to watch the real thing!!

Yea I cant stand it. Each week im stuck watching the Ravens -the ugliest offense in the league. I might have to scoot to a bar

[Monk81]

game over if ramsey doesn't come in I'm not even watching the rest of the game

[Portisfan89]

Chris sammuels u suck ...jesus freakin chris .....God darn..we look like the peeweee league

[josh90286]

this is an incredibly pitiful showing..

[flave1969]

where is the blocking


I quote myself.

WHERE IS THE BLOCKING

[BSMKF]

OMG when do we consider Samuels bust. He has been getting used all day

[sdredskinsfan]

Gibbs play-calling is off too. Why would you play action on 3rd and long?

[techskinsfan]

we want ramsey...brunell is supposed to be able to manage the game...hes doin a great job

[colkurtz]

Samuels gives up sack. We're paying this guy 8+ miilion a year?

Redskins take two timeouts and still have no offense. 4th and long.

[truant]

Brunell had no shot.


Hey... 3rd and 10

PLAY ACTION!!!!!!!!!


Hey, let's not lose because of stupidity...

[flave1969]

Did they do anything in their bye week.

[PennSkinsFan]

The blocking is real badd. Period. But, sitting at 2-4, likely to be 2-5, how long do you rea;lly not turn the team over to the supossed future, Patrick Ramsey

[sdredskinsfan]

game over if ramsey doesn't come in I'm not even watching the rest of the game

That's the most indicative statement of how pathetic we are right now. Ramsey the only hope? Whoa.

[Santheb]

FIRST DOWN! ROYAL.

[suppitty]

I think there will be another overhaul on the offensive lien by Bugel at then end of this season.
Yeah, but how many overhauls can we go through. We are allways changing players. Wow, what a play by royal.

[Chief Seeway]

Gibbs play-calling is off too. Why would you play action on 3rd and long?
Great point!

[Monk4HOF]

The offensive line is awful today.

GREAT PLAY BY ROYAL!

[kardiac]

Now THAT'S A PLAY!!!!!

[NCskinsfanatic]

I think there will be another overhaul on the offensive lien by Bugel at then end of this season.
So true, we need a real C and Jansen back at the very least.

[techskinsfan]

(foot in mouth)

[flave1969]

Great Play Robert Royal

[Santheb]

and Royal drops it :/

[Monk81]

a new 50/50

[Monk4HOF]

The offensive line is awful today.

GREAT PLAY BY ROYAL!

And back to the old Skins. So inconsistent.

[SkinsForLife]

What exactly did these guys do during the bye week. It looks like they didn't practice at all.

[suppitty]

Anyone else think the players will quit on the season if/when they lose this game?

[flave1969]

Great Play Robert Royal

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

LOL He dropped it.

[Portisfan89]

Dropped passes turnovers thats why were 2 and 4 lol AND ANOTHER PENALTY

[NCskinsfanatic]

Ughhhhhh!

[Monk81]

delay of game come on

[Santheb]

delay of game :/

[Skin-E-Dip]

Gibbs play-calling is off too. Why would you play action on 3rd and long?


(SIGH) I have been trying so hard not to commit blasphemy against the Skins and Gibbs but Im really beginning to doubt if Gibbs can be anything more than just a competent coach in this league right now. I love his cool headedness and loyalty and all that, but I wish he had just a pinch of desperation

[flave1969]

Are we trying to lose.