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rskinsfan10

11-09-2004, 11:23 AM

If true, they are in BIG trouble..... (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919059)

RedskinRyan

11-09-2004, 01:09 PM

the NCAA needs to look into this. i've lost mad respect for tressel, dating back to the game they lost last year at wisconsin and reynolds choked the qb, and was not punished. with how bad they are playing this year, he should get fired, and they should bring in a coach to clean up the program. ohio state is a traditional team, and it should stay like that, but apparently tressel can not do that.

ps - nice avatar, but the sig is a no-no. i hate the "new" mustangs

CarMike

11-09-2004, 01:40 PM

He says members of Tressel's staff also introduced him to boosters who'd slip him thousands of dollars, and the better he played, the more cash he'd receive. He says boosters eventually began inviting him into their homes or would meet him out in the community.

Reminds me of the movie "The Program". That scene actually played out just like Clarette said...

akhhorus

11-09-2004, 01:48 PM

Reminds me of the movie "The Program". That scene actually played out just like Clarette said...

Great movie filmed at Uni. South Carolina & Columbia. I cant watch that movie without having flashbacks.

dj_stouty

11-09-2004, 01:49 PM

CarMike

11-09-2004, 01:56 PM

Great movie filmed at Uni. South Carolina & Columbia. I cant watch that movie without having flashbacks.

akhh, I had always heard it was filmed at dook. atleast the campus.

Thanks for clearing that up for me...

akhhorus

11-09-2004, 01:59 PM

akhh, I had always heard it was filmed at dook. atleast the campus.

Thanks for clearing that up for me...

the Campuses are similar. But the stadium is the giveaway: that's Williams-Brice Stadium. Some of the scenes (interior shots) were filmed at Duke, but the exterior was filmed in Columbia.

ShaggySkins

11-09-2004, 02:27 PM

Now the question is going to be how much does the NCAA come down on Ohio State.

Chief Seeway

11-09-2004, 07:22 PM

sing birdie, sing

CarMike

11-09-2004, 08:25 PM

the Campuses are similar. But the stadium is the giveaway: that's Williams-Brice Stadium. Some of the scenes (interior shots) were filmed at Duke, but the exterior was filmed in Columbia.

Yeah, dooks stadium is worse than a lot of high school fields....

Its the only division 1A school that has a track around it...:D

rskinsfan10

11-09-2004, 08:32 PM

Yeah, dooks stadium is worse than a lot of high school fields....

Its the only division 1A school that has a track around it...:D

Actually, the Horseshoe has a track around it (at least it did when I was still at Norfolk State and we (the band) represented little Lane College as their band when the played Central St. of Ohio there in 1994.

CarMike

11-09-2004, 08:34 PM

rskinsfan10, you mean OSU football stadium?

rskinsfan10

11-09-2004, 08:36 PM

rskinsfan10, you mean OSU football stadium?

That's a big 10-4.

When I was there in 94, they had just started the construction to add seats in the endzone that had been open prior. Maybe they don't call it the Horseshoe anymore.

rskinsfan10

11-11-2004, 09:35 PM

Robert Smith adds a bit of credibility to Clarett's story. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1920711)

CarMike

11-11-2004, 10:13 PM

I just read on the sports ticker from ESPN that Jim O'Brien is now sueing OSU for $3.4 million dollars for something about when he was fired as the head BB coach....it keeps getting uglier and uglier...I'll look for a link.

CarMike

11-11-2004, 10:18 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1921045

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Former Ohio State basketball coach Jim O'Brien sued the school, claiming he is owed at least $3.4 million because his firing violated terms of his contract.

rskinsfan10

11-12-2004, 10:49 PM

And yet another voice:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1921740

Jimreaper007

11-13-2004, 06:21 AM

I find all of this stuff abolsutely hilarious...

When I look at the amount of money these kids generate for these schools...I am sure they would find the same things in all of the major college sports schools.

The NCAA is more corrupt than the schools

jporterweb

11-13-2004, 06:21 AM

I don't see why everyone (especially OSU alumni) is so upset at Clarrett. He felt scorned by the University, and now he is taking them down. That is the risk the University took when they kicked him off the team.

Had OSU not allowed these practices to happen in the first place, there wouldn't be any problem.

Who says they allowed these practices? Who says it's not just Clarrett and another disgruntled Buckeye coming foward with these alegations. Why didn't Clarrett bring these things up when he was under investigation, it probably would've saved his ass. I don't know for sure if it happened or not, but I do know that it just doesn't make sense to bring it up now. And why aren't there scores of ex-buckeyes coming out of the woodwork and saying yea I got this stuff too... I mean I would have to say Springs would've gotten special treatment, and Big Daddy Wilkinson, and Orlando Pace why aren't these folks coming out and saying something if the university is so corrupt. Do I think there is misconduct? Yea...it happens at every major university in this country. Do I think it's to the scale of Crybaby Clarrett's stories? No way.

And in response to the person who says fire Jim Tressel, he's a better coach by far then John Cooper, as much as I hate this losing season the worst thing to do is fire him. I mean where's the proof that he was given thousands of dollars? What did he do with this money? The NCAA would've noticed in their investigation that his pockets were much heavier then they were supposed to be. The guy had practically his entire life analyzed. The kid is a liar and until he shows me some proof besides other disgruntled Buckeyes saying they got good treatment I don't believe a word he says.

IowaSkinsFan

11-13-2004, 07:17 AM

If true, they are in BIG trouble..... (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919059)

I also heard that if this is true, Ohio State will be granted automatic membership into the SEC!

:Peace:

dj_stouty

11-13-2004, 09:40 AM

Who says they allowed these practices? Who says it's not just Clarrett and another disgruntled Buckeye coming foward with these alegations. Why didn't Clarrett bring these things up when he was under investigation, it probably would've saved his ass. I don't know for sure if it happened or not, but I do know that it just doesn't make sense to bring it up now. And why aren't there scores of ex-buckeyes coming out of the woodwork and saying yea I got this stuff too... I mean I would have to say Springs would've gotten special treatment, and Big Daddy Wilkinson, and Orlando Pace why aren't these folks coming out and saying something if the university is so corrupt. Do I think there is misconduct? Yea...it happens at every major university in this country. Do I think it's to the scale of Crybaby Clarrett's stories? No way.

Look. You and I don't know for sure if what he says is true...but knowing how blue-chip college programs operate, it doesn't fall far from what I would expect. I think it happens at most big program schools. And do you think the coaches, the AD and college administration don't know it happens? I don't believe that one bit.

There is bad blood between Clarett and the School. Clarrett says the coaching staff intentionally bad mouthed him to NFL scouts. Maybe they did...maybe they didnt. But don't play hardball with someone who used to be inside the program when you have skeletons in your closet, and that person knows exactly what those skeletons are. (Especially if that person has access to the media)

Regardless, Clarrett is now predicted to be a 4th rounder or later.

CarMike

11-13-2004, 09:57 AM

I also heard that Tressle had a problem with a quarterback when he was coaching Youngstown State. He paid the QB some money, similar to what Clarette is saying....

RedskinRyan

11-13-2004, 12:05 PM

i was gonna post one article, but rskins beat me to it

this could get real ugly for tressel, and his record isnt exactly going to save his job this year.

*drum beat* to what ISF said

jporterweb

11-13-2004, 03:25 PM

If anything they need to fire Andy Geiger. If anyone knows about it, it's the AD. DJ, like I said I'm not saying it did or didn't, but I'll believe it when I see someone who wasn't pissed off at the Buckeyes. I'll believe it when a Shawn Springs type guy comes out and says yea, its been going on for years. But seriously, how did the NCAA not find this before? It's not possible they didn't find it if they did the research they were supposed to.

CarMike

11-13-2004, 05:12 PM

jporterweb, how about Robert Smith coming forward and admitting this has happened before? Does he have something out for OSU?

Just wondering....

jporterweb

11-13-2004, 06:04 PM

akhhorus

11-13-2004, 06:11 PM

First off...where is Robert Smith's "report"? Haven't seen it.

Second it was reported tonight in the broadcast that right now the NCAA has no plans to investigate, allowing OSU to internally investigate. The MO C investigation, probably gives them the leadway to do this. Also some of the claims are about players getting cars from a car lot and stuff...no way to know if that was a booster's doing or just the car lot.

Robert Smith believes Clarett (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6465592/) but he doesnt say why. Hmmm. Me thinks he got payments. NCAA cant not investigate it, Clarett alone has no credibility, but all the former players backing him up and people saying Tressel did this at Youngstown St means there is a big sore that needs to be tended to at OSU. The NCAA has to get involved.

jporterweb

11-13-2004, 06:26 PM

umm...according to Smith he doesn't believe the University had anything to do with it.

Former Ohio State running back Robert Smith believes Maurice Clarett is telling the truth about receiving cash from boosters and other powerful fans of the Buckeye football team, but stopped short of indicting the university's coaches or staff for providing benefits deemed improper by the NCAA.

"Absolutely I think that (Clarett getting paid by boosters) happened," he said. "I believe that it's happened. But there's a difference between fans providing it or members of the university. There's a huge distinction. I don't believe members of the university provided for him."

akhhorus

11-13-2004, 06:56 PM

umm...according to Smith he doesn't believe the University had anything to do with it.

all I said was that Smith beleives him. Even if it was a booster, and not with the University, the school still should try to prevent that sort of thing. If a student gets illegal benefits, he should be ineligable.

jporterweb

11-13-2004, 08:07 PM

all I said was that Smith beleives him. Even if it was a booster, and not with the University, the school still should try to prevent that sort of thing. If a student gets illegal benefits, he should be ineligable.

Agreed...and Clarett was inelligible when it was found out what was happening. We knew about the booster kickbacks, it's why he was booted. The big allegations are that the University set them up...and Smith disagrees.

akhhorus

11-13-2004, 08:09 PM

Agreed...and Clarett was inelligible when it was found out what was happening. We knew about the booster kickbacks, it's why he was booted. The big allegations are that the University set them up...and Smith disagrees.

then explain the parade of other former OSU players who say they got money. Let me guess one thing though: you're an OSU fan.

Jimreaper007

11-13-2004, 08:26 PM

If anyone here thinks OSU is innocent.....please step away from the crack...

School is too big and too nuts about the football program not to have skeletons in the closet

jporterweb

11-14-2004, 12:38 PM

First of all, Yes I am a Bucks fan, but that doesn't mean I am blindly following and protecting my team. But when Robert Smith a respected player from OSU says, yea that stuff happens, but not by the university itself, I tend to believe him over the 4 or 5 others that were disgruntled towards the university. I do now believe that the University is innocent. If you looked at past posts, I said I'm not sure whether they are or not but basically they are innocent till proven guilty. Now with Smith saying he believes the University is innocent, I'm pretty sure that they weren't involved. Booster kickbacks happen at every major program in the country. It's just which ones get caught. Tell me, why would you attack a player you were giving so much too so that he could come back and turn on you, and why didn't Clarrett come clean and say he was being setup because the University was doing these things to him. He probably would've had more of a chance to stay elligible and transfer to say Michigan to get his revenge.

smoot

11-14-2004, 12:45 PM

and some other guy just backed him up on this too, interesting

Jimreaper007

11-14-2004, 03:14 PM

and some other guy just backed him up on this too, interesting

OSU is guilty so they had better start getting ready for some staffing changes and probation time.

jporterweb

11-15-2004, 07:49 AM

akhhorus

11-15-2004, 09:02 AM

amazing...so much for innocent till proven guilty. Everybody but myself is already ready to drop the hammer. Now tell me, why would OSU invite the NCAA to investigate if OSU was already told they could handle this internally? They have nothing to hide. You don't risk everything you work for, you don't risk players not coming to OSU just to look "good" if you've done something wrong. It's a bunch of disgruntled players trying to hurt the university for something that the university has no control over. Those players made themselves inelligible, not the University.

please, if you think Big College Football is "innocent till proven guilty", you're babe in the woods. They are all corrupt. And they might be inviting the NCAA because their compliance officer has warned them that if they continue they could be "obstructing". This, if caught, would lead to the death penalty for multiple years. South Carolina was "investigating" some allegations when I was there until the NCAA Compliance officer (which every school has) told them to stop because any further investiagtion would cross into "obstruction" if they didnt involve the NCAA. So they called the NCAA and got fined and lost a scholarship for some violations. Tressell, appears to have a history of this and too many former players are saying this happened. Even if it did without University knowledge, the school is still penalized. As they should be. And if it's true what Clarett and the others are saying that Tressell was involved, then OSU will be severly penalized.

dj_stouty

11-15-2004, 05:39 PM

The reason you won't find Springs, Pace, Diggs, Doss or Gamble come forward is becuase they have too much to lose PR-wise to make a comment. What good would it do Springs to finger the University that helped him get where he is today? None. I guarantee you zero to no current NFL players will get involved.

Former NFL players or players who didn't make the pros? Sure...

akhhorus

11-15-2004, 05:44 PM

Some new information has come out (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1923175) But the University still had no knowledge, huh? This is legal, but if they are giving cars to the staff, how could they have not known they were giving them to the players?

rskinsfan10

01-05-2005, 06:25 PM

So who has the credibility problem now, Clarett or OSU???

lrking75

01-05-2005, 07:16 PM

I hate Ohio State anyway. I hope they lose all there athletes

IowaSkinsFan

01-06-2005, 12:03 PM

So who has the credibility problem now, Clarett or OSU???

My personal opinion is that neither of them are innocent.

I loved Geiger's opening remark: "I'm not running away".

Whatever.

The rats always get off the sinking ship first.