View Full Version : No salary cap in 2007?
BIGSEF3
11-12-2004, 01:37 PM
I read somewhere that there was not going to be a salary cap at all in 2007. is that true?
I know I'm looking way ahead and this thread probably shouldnt be created for another 3 years, but I wanted to know if what i heard was right.
If so, I can see us turning into the the "Yankees" of the NFL. Our owner will spend hundreds of millions of dollars acquiring free agents left and right. We will be dominant for years and years, but everyone will hate us and say we only win b/c our owner spends more money than any other coach.
if that happens, then i say, good for us! If our owner is willing to spend the money to give the fans wins, then that tells me we've got an owner who loves our team!
chrisbcbu
11-12-2004, 01:43 PM
I think they are in negotiations to have the salary cap renewed. It may have already been redone already. But i did here that the salary cap is going up in 2006.
There will more than likely be a salary cap, they just have to renew/renegotiate the contract for it.
PennSkinsFan
11-12-2004, 01:44 PM
I read somewhere that there was not going to be a salary cap at all in 2007. is that true?
I know I'm looking way ahead and this thread probably shouldnt be created for another 3 years, but I wanted to know if what i heard was right.
If so, I can see us turning into the the "Yankees" of the NFL. Our owner will spend hundreds of millions of dollars acquiring free agents left and right. We will be dominant for years and years, but everyone will hate us and say we only win b/c our owner spends more money than any other coach.
if that happens, then i say, good for us! If our owner is willing to spend the money to give the fans wins, then that tells me we've got an owner who loves our team!
I hope it is not true. The Salary Cap is the best thing that has happened to the NFL and I think he increased the popularity. It keeps the NFL competitive with all, instead of just big market teams.
IowaSkinsFan
11-12-2004, 01:47 PM
Under the current CBA, 2007 is an uncapped year. The fear is that if the CBA is not extended and the cap goes away, they won't get it back.
akhhorus
11-12-2004, 01:49 PM
Under the current CBA, 2007 is an uncapped year. The fear is that if the CBA is not extended and the cap goes away, they won't get it back.
for that reason alone, there will be a cap in 07. When they first did the CBA, 1997 was supposed to be an uncapped year, but mysteriously enough, they extended it in time.
RedskinRyan
11-12-2004, 01:56 PM
Under the current CBA, 2007 is an uncapped year. The fear is that if the CBA is not extended and the cap goes away, they won't get it back.
i dont remember who i heard it from, but the person said that if the salary cap goes away, it isnt coming back. as nice as it would be for us to win 26 superbowls, i dont want the NFL to turn out that way.
BRAVEONAWARPATH
11-12-2004, 01:59 PM
Under the current CBA, 2007 is an uncapped year. The fear is that if the CBA is not extended and the cap goes away, they won't get it back.
Exactly. I've heard that quite a few players,owners, GMs etc.,
don't want it back.
smoak
11-12-2004, 02:10 PM
I hope it is not true. The Salary Cap is the best thing that has happened to the NFL and I think he increased the popularity. It keeps the NFL competitive with all, instead of just big market teams.
Amen. You are 100% coreect. Sure it would be great to win every season, but guess what... eventually it devalues the league as a whole. The NFL is the model when it comes to running a professional sports league.
smoak
11-12-2004, 02:11 PM
Exactly. I've heard that quite a few players,owners, GMs etc.,
don't want it back.
i can't see why that would be the case? under the current CBA, the NFL has boomed in popularity.
akhhorus
11-12-2004, 02:13 PM
i can't see why that would be the case? under the current CBA, the NFL has boomed in popularity.
well, the players and agents would be for abolishing it, but the only owners who would be in favor of keeping it would be anyone not named Snyder, Glazer, Allen & Jones.
smoak
11-12-2004, 02:32 PM
well, the players and agents would be for abolishing it, but the only owners who would be in favor of keeping it would be anyone not named Snyder, Glazer, Allen & Jones.
think about it though... if the league is dominated by the few, then it suffers as a whole. i don't think any owner would be in favor of salaries escalating out of control to the point where you have a potential LONG term stoppage... nhl, i'm looking in your direction.
i think both sides see the value of the cap.
also, along with the cap there is also a lesser discussed "salary floor" which keeps owners from not investing in players. it is definitely a "win win".
i think wwhat snyder and a select few would like to see is that teams could keep more of their locally generated revenue.
IowaSkinsFan
11-12-2004, 02:50 PM
i can't see why that would be the case? under the current CBA, the NFL has boomed in popularity.
I don't know if the two are related, but you certainly cannot aruge that point.
hockeygoalie29
11-12-2004, 03:01 PM
as nice as it would be for us to win 26 superbowls, i dont want the NFL to turn out that way.
Even if there wasn't a cap, there would still be parity in the NFL. Football is much more of a team sport than baseball where a few great players can win you a championship. We've had the highest payroll for a while and it hasn't even gotten us a playoff appearance.
2Cooley
11-12-2004, 03:15 PM
I know that next year the salary cap will go up alot because the NFL just bot 2 multi billion dollar deals frow fox and cbs
Skinzaholic
11-12-2004, 05:04 PM
If the cap went away - the NFL would follow the same fate as MLB. It wont happen - the guys high up are way to smart for that.
(Just look how they bamboozled the networks out of 25% more money and yet less game option freedom.)
BRAVEONAWARPATH
11-12-2004, 05:14 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a provision put in that allows you to
exceed the cap to resign your own free agents. That way
a certain amount of continuity is kept.
Keino
11-12-2004, 05:21 PM
I hope it is not true. The Salary Cap is the best thing that has happened to the NFL and I think he increased the popularity. It keeps the NFL competitive with all, instead of just big market teams.
HOw can you be a fan of the wealthiest and most valuable franchise in the NFL and think that. We haven't had a good team in the Salary cap era.
I think the CBA is up 2007, but the NFL, unlike the other organizations will get the deal done well in advance.
Skinsfan1906
11-12-2004, 05:45 PM
i dont remember who i heard it from, but the person said that if the salary cap goes away, it isnt coming back. as nice as it would be for us to win 26 superbowls, i dont want the NFL to turn out that way.
Heck, the way it's been around here for the last decade or so, I wouldn't mind winning every year. Seriously.
dabro
11-12-2004, 05:48 PM
think about it though... if the league is dominated by the few, then it suffers as a whole. i don't think any owner would be in favor of salaries escalating out of control to the point where you have a potential LONG term stoppage... nhl, i'm looking in your direction.
i think both sides see the value of the cap.
also, along with the cap there is also a lesser discussed "salary floor" which keeps owners from not investing in players. it is definitely a "win win".
i think wwhat snyder and a select few would like to see is that teams could keep more of their locally generated revenue.
I'd like to see them expand the cap and allow the team to keep more players.
akhhorus
11-12-2004, 05:56 PM
how about this proposal:
You can name one player as your "Franchise" player, he must stay on your team roster for five years at least and his salary does not count against the cap. This would allow you to keep that star player on the team without having him cripple the cap.
BIGSEF3
11-12-2004, 06:04 PM
Thats an interesting idea.
the one thing i will say I dont like about the cap is that it really DOES put everyone on pretty much an even keel. I mean, there are alot more fans for teams like the redskins than there are, for example, the bengals. the cap creates a situation where you have a team with 50 million fans, an owner who will spend money out of his pocket to help the team, and players who will stick around because they love the team. (lets face it, players are going to go where the money is, with a salary-capped league)
the thing i like about your idea, is it kind of gives back a little to teams with owners like daniel snyder. he wouldnt have to decide whether he wanted to keep champ baily or get clinton portis. he could get both. heck, i would one-up your idea a notch and say a team can have a franchise player on offense and defense who isnt counted against the cap.
Meatsnack
11-12-2004, 07:35 PM
An interesting thought, the one-player exemption. I wonder what it would do for teams like Indianapolis who have one standout player and a supporting cast? Aside from freeing up bags of money, I mean. For teams like ours who don't have a single payer head and shoulders above the rest, I don't know that it would be franchise changing.
A more fitting method for a team like ours might be a method which facilitated re-signing players your franchise drafted. I base this on the "core Redskins" idea that Joe Gibbs espouses. His old ex-players basically all say that they policed the locker room and decided who needed to stay or go and Joe followed their lead. As Gary Clark said, players know who can play and who is over-rated. Maybe a method by which the veteran minimum dollar amount for players drafted by the team doesn't count against the cap. In this way, a team can save several million cap-dollars annually by keeping players around long term but the money saved on any single contract is minimized.
IowaSkinsFan
11-13-2004, 07:28 AM
how about this proposal:
You can name one player as your "Franchise" player, he must stay on your team roster for five years at least and his salary does not count against the cap. This would allow you to keep that star player on the team without having him cripple the cap.
Doesn't the NBA do something like that? The Larry Bird rule?
HAWGZHEAD
11-13-2004, 08:28 AM
I hope it is not true. The Salary Cap is the best thing that has happened to the NFL and I think he increased the popularity. It keeps the NFL competitive with all, instead of just big market teams.
That is exactly what I was going to say. I agree totally.
Keino
11-13-2004, 10:26 AM
Im all for aboloshing the Salary Cap. Im a fan of the Washington Redskins and no Salary cap can only mean that we have a competetive advantage. Damn Parity. I want to win early and often.
BRAVEONAWARPATH
11-13-2004, 10:49 AM
Im all for aboloshing the Salary Cap. Im a fan of the Washington Redskins and no Salary cap can only mean that we have a competetive advantage. Damn Parity. I want to win early and often.
Keino..I feel the same way. But many people will say the cap is for
the good of the league. Personally, I've always felt that if you can't
compete you need to get out of the game.
HAWGZHEAD
11-13-2004, 10:57 AM
The cap is the only thing keeping the game from becoming the NBA.
whitskins
11-13-2004, 11:56 AM
Yeah, I'm a very big fan of the cap, I would never want our beloved team to become the Yankees, whenver they win I still don't respect them (or any other team that buys a title). I think the NFL has the system close to perfect and when we finally win it all it will be because we were truly the best team in this league all the way around.
Keino
11-13-2004, 11:59 AM
The cap is the only thing keeping the game from becoming the NBA.
I disagree. The NBA is dilluted because over an 82 game season, the Regular season games simply do not mean as much.
BRAVEONAWARPATH
11-13-2004, 12:04 PM
Yeah, I'm a very big fan of the cap, I would never want our beloved team to become the Yankees, whenver they win I still don't respect them (or any other team that buys a title). I think the NFL has the system close to perfect and when we finally win it all it will be because we were truly the best team in this league all the way around.
If we become the Yankees..so what? The bottom line is "WINNING".
whitskins
11-13-2004, 12:05 PM
I disagree. The NBA is dilluted because over an 82 game season, the Regular season games simply do not mean as much.
Agreed, the NBA is flawed for many reasons but the greatest of those reasons stem from the dilluted talent level in their league and the selfishness of the players. I think their salary cap is actually quite effective.
IowaSkinsFan
11-13-2004, 12:16 PM
I disagree. The NBA is dilluted because over an 82 game season, the Regular season games simply do not mean as much.
What about Baseball?
HAWGZHEAD
11-13-2004, 12:39 PM
Do you really want to see the same team win over and over? I still like the any given sunday belief.
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