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IMALILTEAPOT
11-13-2004, 06:36 PM
What will Brunell's stats be fore this game against cincy?

JoeJacksonTaylor28
11-13-2004, 06:41 PM
What will Brunell's stats be fore this game against cincy?
25 handoffs for 167 yards and 2 TD's.... :kidding:

Jimreaper007
11-13-2004, 06:41 PM
Not pretty

Brody
11-13-2004, 06:42 PM
Low to mid 50's for accuracy, 100 to 175 passing yards, 0 to 1 interceptions, 1 or MAYBE 2 touchdowns (note: Brunell will not have more int's than td's, just like every other game), passer rating of around 70 or 80, around 25 passing attempts, and decreased efficiency on third down.

IMALILTEAPOT
11-13-2004, 06:44 PM
Low to mid 50's for accuracy, 100 to 175 passing yards, 0 to 1 interceptions, 1 or 2 touchdowns (note: Brunell will not have more int's than td's, just like every other game), passer rating of around 70 or 80, around 25 passing attempts, and decreased efficiency on third down.
i thinks thats kind of a loss thou. i wouldnt mind if brunell was like 13-20 and 160, cuz that means he didnt have to throw a lot and he had some long ones. i think we have to give portis the ball like 35 times

whitskins
11-13-2004, 06:46 PM
Brunell will get it up over 150 but I'm not gonna bet the house on 200 yet.

Brody
11-13-2004, 06:48 PM
i thinks thats kind of a loss thou. i wouldnt mind if brunell was like 13-20 and 160, cuz that means he didnt have to throw a lot and he had some long ones. i think we have to give portis the ball like 35 times

Sorry but I just can't see Brunell hitting 65% of his throws or having 8 yards per attempt. We can win if Brunell is serviceable.

IMALILTEAPOT
11-13-2004, 06:50 PM
Sorry but I just can't see Brunell hitting 65% of his throws or having 8 yards per attempt. We can win if Brunell is serviceable.
oops i didnt know it was that good. im saying hes gonna have a respectful game, but i dont know how that will look up in the stats

techskinsfan
11-13-2004, 07:26 PM
MB is garbage...under 100 again

smoot
11-13-2004, 07:55 PM
guys, comon brunell is OBVIOUSLY the best quarterback in the history of the game, i expect him to have 500+ yards, 5 touchdowns, another 2 touchdowns running and 0 turnover

geez, why so negative?

ihatedallas
11-13-2004, 07:58 PM
Exactly! Thats why gibbs is keeping him! ....lol


9/21 95 yds 1td

Jimreaper007
11-13-2004, 08:00 PM
guys, comon brunell is OBVIOUSLY the best quarterback in the history of the game, i expect him to have 500+ yards, 5 touchdowns, another 2 touchdowns running and 0 turnover

geez, why so negative?


Maybe the Bizarro-Brunell is lighting up the Bizarro NFL in a another demension.

whitskins
11-13-2004, 08:35 PM
Maybe the Bizarro-Brunell is lighting up the Bizarro NFL in a another demension.

Man I would like to find the portal to that dimension. Of course there the Cowboys would be having a great year as well.

Jimreaper007
11-13-2004, 08:48 PM
Man I would like to find the portal to that dimension. Of course there the Cowboys would be having a great year as well.


Well the Cowboys suck no matter the dimension...

Bizarro-Brunell has thrown for 500 yards each game in Bizarro-World

bgforever
11-14-2004, 03:25 AM
It's not just his patting of the ball that irks me, I could almost swear that gives a second of time for DB's to recover against the receiver, but is past some.

For one, I think the timing factor is his biggest heel. This is also related to his passes that sail, that is also related to patting the ball. The only reason he got away with it in Jacksonville, was Jimmy Smith was on a level Rice, Harrison, and Moss. Pure speed, size, agility, quickness allowed him to overcone some really bad throws from Brunell. Smith is above the receivers we have now. McCardell also is better than Gardner, so teaming up with Smith, pumped up Brunny's numbers. The reality is we can make the most of him, by finding ways to re-route receivers, re-route defensive linemen from the line of fire, and involve Clinton Portis, Betts,Cooley more.

This is what Baltimore did, during their SB run, though I seriously doubt we're on that track :), they used Dilfer for short to medium range passing, then in some games, fooled everyone and opened up briefly. This allowed the tiny element of surprise to have strong play-action, defenses respected. The box was lessened with defenders, allowing Dilfer to complete high percentage passes and dump offs for game deciding first downs. This also allowed a fresh Ray Lewis led defense to simply establish a new record in points allowed, and the world watched Ray Lewis do some form of Bo Diddly imitation, with Sly Stone on crack dance.

True again, that Brunny isn't going to make every pass, but our receivers have to find a way, like Smith and Cardelll did to help with their own instincts, skills, abilities, experience and determination. Those, er, our receivers are good enough, but they have to also prove it - EVERY GAME. a name for a week won't cut in this league, you can' t go off rep against, NFL players every week, you have to go out like its the game of your life and prove it all over again, because the opponent has definitely gotta' make a name for himself or already has!

bgforever
11-14-2004, 03:47 AM
Had to make a PART II:

Brunell's stats are likely to be better, because the balanced attack will initial be to start with a series of runs. Gibbs won't abandon the run ever again, now that he knows what Portis can handle. Against Green Bay, he made that fatal mistake and apologized to Portis for it. He simply hasn't got into all that the man can do, until last week's sneak peek.

Of all the backs Portis is comprised of, he fits this mold (Redskins related) Terry Allen, Larry Brown, Earnest Byner, Ricky Earvins, Kelvin Bryant. He has Allen and Bryant's moves, strong leg drive like Larry Brown, Ricky Earvins, and Earnest Byner, and hands like them all. Of all the backs he measures up to, He is in the Allen, Brown, Byner mold. He can be involved in all types of offensive package, producing outstanding numbers, with even a modest game plan. Gibbs knows this, but has to get the passing game in sync.

Brunell's numbers won't be better if he exclusively looks to pass to two main receivers overall. I saw the numbers and how they were doing. The way out is to find a way in. You have to bunch the corners to the inside, forcing them to recover to the outside, which is where Brunell's passing to the left strength is. He can zing at times dowfield, hitting receivers on the run.

Backside pursuit is doable on Brunell, who once ran with the best of them, but is STILL good to excellent on roll-outs (like Dilfer). Montana used roll-outs as a staple and built up numbers from short dump offs to Craig, Cooper, and quick hitches for RAC yardage to Taylor. When the D focused inside, downfield or to the sideline was Jerry Rice. This is how you pass over Cincy successfully - EVERYBODY HAS TO EXECUTE AND CONTRIBUTE IN SPITE OF THE QB.

Jimreaper007
11-14-2004, 07:06 AM
It's all about confidence and this football team has zero confidence in Brunell and it shows in their play.

The future is now because Brunell is 34 and he is not going to any better than what you see right now.

The Recievers are probably tired of trying to catch Brunell's suicide specials over the middle.

It's time for the old guy to grab the clipboard and help Ramsey from the sidelines.

chrisbcbu
11-14-2004, 07:41 AM
You know i dont think it matters how good Brunell does i still think everyone is going to boo him. Which is completely sad. Last home game everyone booed him and chanted for Ramsey, yet Brunell had his best game(throwing over 200 yards).

I think the sad truth now is that unless Brunell throws perfect meaning no missed passes he will get booed out of the stadium.

hail2skins
11-14-2004, 07:53 AM
It's all about confidence and this football team has zero confidence in Brunell and it shows in their play.


I think this requires further explanatioin. How does it show?

IndianBaller27
11-14-2004, 08:13 AM
Less than 125. Marvin Lewis is gonna have it covered and isn't gonna let Brunell have a good game.

JakeIron
11-14-2004, 12:19 PM
14 / 29 ------> 157 yards 1 TD, 2 INT, but we'll still win thanks to CP.

Monk4HOF
11-14-2004, 12:34 PM
Turnaround game for Brunell. 15/24, 210 yds, 1 TD, 0 int.

Brunell should realize by now that no matter how bad he plays, Gibbs is not going to Ramsey. So, that should take some of the pressure off. As long as he makes a couple of completions early and keeps the crowd off of his back, I can see him having a solid game today. I hope they come out and take a shot downfield early with the Bengals loaded up against Portis. I don't think that Brunell has traveled passed the point of no return in terms of his career. He was a very good QB and I think he can be a capable starter again before his career is over. I am as frustrated with the way he has played as anyone else is. But, I admire Gibbs sticking to his guns and I personally don't see a lot of benefit in switching to Ramsey at this point considering his limited mobility and the fact that the O-line is still underachieving.

smoot
11-14-2004, 12:41 PM
id like to say give it up for bgforever, thats one of the best writeups ive read in a long time

RedskinsVision
11-14-2004, 03:13 PM
as long as Portis is having a good day and we don't trail big in the game then Gibbs won't throw the ball much. if Portis have another 30 carry game then we can't expect Brunell to throw for more than 200 yards. i think Portis will have around 30 carries for 120+ and Brunell will throw for around 170 for the victory!

smoot
11-14-2004, 03:24 PM
guys, comon brunell is OBVIOUSLY the best quarterback in the history of the game, i expect him to have 500+ yards, 5 touchdowns, another 2 touchdowns running and 0 turnover

geez, why so negative?

Guysssss im seriousssssss, stop making jokes

ZackMills
11-14-2004, 03:36 PM
Mark will do the job, I have faith in him. :Pickle:

Jimreaper007
11-14-2004, 04:05 PM
I think this requires further explanatioin. How does it show?


1. Look at the offensive line. I compared the offensive lines from Green Bay, Indianapolis and Atlanta to ours. Those guys play hard and hold their blocks because they know that extra second could give Favre, Manning and Vick the time to make a play. Our offensive line is clearly not doing that because when they give brunell time and a half he usually does not make a play.

2. Look at the Wr's when they are not the primary recievers on routes. That is usually the second sign.

3. Look at the defense during the Baltimore game. Once Brunell gave up that sack and fumble to Ed Reed the life went out of the defense.

Those things show you that Brunell does not have the confidence of this football team. Hope is a huge thing and right now they do not have it in terms of Brunell.

IowaSkinsFan
11-14-2004, 04:19 PM
Between his poor arm strength, failing accuracy and the DROPPED passes, he will again have under 100 yards.

Bluuz
11-14-2004, 05:07 PM
well, you guys may get get your wish because Ramsey's got his coat off and is warming up.

smoot
11-14-2004, 08:50 PM
lol, how bout a net total of -1 yards? oh wait, he just did that

inevitable
11-14-2004, 09:41 PM
lol, how bout a net total of -1 yards? oh wait, he just did that

:lol1: I bet no one saw 1/8 for 6 yrds and a pic

-1 net yards - - my god hahaha thats, if I hadn't seen it myself I woulda thought you were lying.

Emmanouel8
11-14-2004, 09:45 PM
Well thankfully he finally got benched but is anyone feeling crappier than him right now? 1-8 -1yds is just horrble. I can't let Coles and Gardener off the hook they looked awful as well.

Jimreaper007
11-14-2004, 09:49 PM
Oh my

was that what he finished with?

-1

Sweet mutha

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