Lavars injury

[D-Ruck #8]

Does anyone think that Lavar might be sitting out not only because of his "injury" buy because of his contract dispute with Snyder?

[smoot]

no, they seem to have gotten past the dispute, lavar is geniunly(sp?) injured and there is no longer any need to rush him back seeing as the season is a wash

[vegeta2364]

I thought about that 2. but ima hold off of completely hinking that until the hearing

[chrisbcbu]

Ludicrous i say!!

[superbowl06]

How can anyone even suggest that? Lavar has been an aggressive, loyal player his whole career. Yes, he's pissed at the front office, but how can you suggest that he's faking an injury? THis is a man who loves to play, battles hard, switches roles this year without complaining, leads in the locker room...

Ludicrous indeed

[IMALILTEAPOT]

quite mad!!!

[suppitty]

We should try to get something for lavar before people realize he hasnt done anything significant since the int. vs carolina when marty was here.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

We should try to get something for lavar before people realize he hasnt done anything significant since the int. vs carolina when marty was here.
AGAIN WITH THE TRADE LAVAR STUFF.

[superbowl06]

who are you people? this is ridiculous! He's been INJURED this year, he's been shifting coordinators every frickin' year. Why would we trade the cornerstone of our Defense. Seriously, you want to get rid of a guy who offenses fear and organize their gameplans around for WHAT?!?! at most we'd get a couple first round picks for him, and i wouldnt trade him for any two middle first round prospects.

Besides, this isn't your fantasy football league. there is zero percent he'll be traded

[IMALILTEAPOT]

Seriously, you want to get rid of a guy who offenses fear and organize their gameplans around for WHAT?!?!
exactly. i hear all the time on nfl films and stuff that people are always wondering where lavar is on the field. hes one of the best lbs and possibly the best olb in the league

[D-Ruck #8]

I would like to see him in some interviews mad at another loss or something instead of crying. Literally, sometimes when hes getting interviewed he starts to break down in tears. :cry:

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

im gonna have to say NO.

[t-stoney]

We should try to get something for lavar before people realize he hasnt done anything significant since the int. vs carolina when marty was here.
:funpost:

[whitskins]

Give me a break. People do actually get injured in the NFL.

[2Cooley]

We should try to get something for lavar before people realize he hasnt done anything significant since the int. vs carolina when marty was here.


I agree but it is to late we should not have given him that new contract last year, we should have traded him

[IowaSkinsFan]

I don't think he is faking it. I think it is serious and legit, so much so that I thought he should have been IR'd weeks ago, to free up a roster spot for a LB who can play ST's. Lemar Marshall has been doing double duty as a result.

[colkurtz]

He has an injury.

We are 3-8.

Our defense is #2 in the NFL.

Why try to bring him in early?

[bosshog001]

Does anyone think that Lavar might be sitting out not only because of his "injury" buy because of his contract dispute with Snyder?


I can't even read this. I'm assuming the overwhelming response is NO.

[Woody]

He has an injury. We are 3-8. Our defense is #2 in the NFL. Why try to bring him in early?

Yeah, our defense is number 2 in the NFL. Without Lavar. So who's to say we need him back? ...ever!

Did you see the play that "injured" him? No way it keeps him out this long.

He's being passive aggressive with Danny over the $6 million, while playing Mr. Sweetheart with our adoring media and fans. Meanwhile, he is earning zero loyalty from Greg Williams or Joe Gibbs; will never see his imagined $6 million; and will be traded at year's end to get us some help on offense -- maybe a quarterback, probably a O-lineman and some draft picks.

For his sake, I hope he lets a new agent negotiate his deal with his new team. This one's incompetence is screwing Lavar, the Redskins and the fans.

[GibbsRules!]

Lavar...Malingering...give me a break! Let me go on record as saying I want him to finish his career right here!

Gibbs knows what he has in Lavar, kind of like what he had in Wilbur Marshall when they lured him here from the Bears in the mid 80's...Lavar is an intimidating presence who sacrifices his body with enormous hits and lays it all on the line weekly. Now that he's hurt we turn our backs on him?

I'll continue to pull for him...

[PennSkinsFan]

Yeah, our defense is number 2 in the NFL. Without Lavar. So who's to say we need him back? ...ever!

Hopefully this week you don't find out how much we do miss Lavar. Without Lavar spying McNabb, I fear the worst with hsi running. Marshall can not spy McNabb the same way. His presence and ability is just not the same. You think this defense is good now, jsut imagine if we have Lavar's play making ability in there. To say we don't need Lavar is to say you simply don't understand the role of a Linebacker. Marshall has doen a great job filling in, but he is, and won't be the type of intense playmaker that Lavar is, period!

[Woody]

"Malingering" implies he's staying out to avoid hard work. I don't believe that for a minute. He loves to play and is a monster when he does.

But what I do believe is that Lavar is being "passive aggressive" -- doing nothing overtly to attack the owner, but harming him very severely nonetheless.

Because the imaginary $6 million is never going to materialize for Lavar, I think his situation here is untenable. He and the 'Skins will be better off if Lavar takes his considerable talents somewhere else and the Redskins aquire fair value in return.

[GibbsRules!]

"Malingering" implies he's staying out to avoid hard work. I don't believe that for a minute. He loves to play and is a monster when he does.

But what I do believe is that Lavar is being "passive aggressive" -- doing nothing overtly to attack the owner, but harming him very severely nonetheless.

Because the imaginary $6 million is never going to materialize for Lavar, I think his situation here is untenable. He and the 'Skins will be better off if Lavar takes his considerable talents somewhere else and the Redskins aquire fair value in return.

Uh, just 'cause I posted after you doesn't mean it was directed at you, otherwise I would have quoted you...I was referring to the start of the thread where it was implied in parentheses that Lavar was using his "injury" to avoid playing and thus punish management for his agents snafu in his contract negotiations...that would be malingering to me.
I've worked w/plenty of Malingerers in the Military and in Civilian life. To even insinuate such a thing indirectly is ridiculous.
I could see maybe wanting to get rid of Michael Barrow, but not Lavar. I bet Greg Williams can't wait to get Lavar and ST on the field at the same time, and as a season ticket holder, I can't wait either!
Gibbs is looking for his core group of Redskins. Lavar is a dedicated team player who has stated he is here for the long run. To turn their backs on him would be the worst thing Skins management could do. I hope it doesn't happen.

[GolfFreak]

No way LA is faking his injury. I think they are being extra careful since he rushed back to quick and re-injured it. All all this trade talk is disturbing - he is the cornerstone of our defense, sure we are ranked 1st right now (after week 13), but just imagine what our team could acheive if he were on the field. We could challenge the great defenses in history. LA is a game changer, he needs to be on this team or we'll regret it for the rest of time ... [ok, getting a little corny I admit]

[GhostRider68]

I truly believe that Lavar's new contract will be voided after the hearing and that he will be traded. I think he is a business man and just like everyone else money talks and BS walks. I'd have zero loyalty to the company I work for if I thought they screwed me out of some greenbacks or their competitor offered me some serious cabbage. What makes LA any different? All this talk about him bleeding burgundy and gold may sound good but this is the era of free agency. SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!

[hockeygoalie29]

Yeah, our defense is number 2 in the NFL. Without Lavar. So who's to say we need him back? ...ever!

Did you see the play that "injured" him? No way it keeps him out this long.

He's being passive aggressive with Danny over the $6 million, while playing Mr. Sweetheart with our adoring media and fans. Meanwhile, he is earning zero loyalty from Greg Williams or Joe Gibbs; will never see his imagined $6 million; and will be traded at year's end to get us some help on offense -- maybe a quarterback, probably a O-lineman and some draft picks.

For his sake, I hope he lets a new agent negotiate his deal with his new team. This one's incompetence is screwing Lavar, the Redskins and the fans.

Because anyone can have surgery and be back on the field the next week...give me a break. If he was using his injury to his advantage as you say, then why did he rush HIMSELF back to practice early? The answer is that he would do anything to get back on the field for this team.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

I truly believe that Lavar's new contract will be voided after the hearing and that he will be traded. I think he is a business man and just like everyone else money talks and BS walks. I'd have zero loyalty to the company I work for if I thought they screwed me out of some greenbacks or their competitor offered me some serious cabbage. What makes LA any different? All this talk about him bleeding burgundy and gold may sound good but this is the era of free agency. SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!
WHAT? ok first off, if u live in the dc area and u listen to lavar on 980 every tuesday and hear how GENIUNELY he wants us to win, u wouldnt say this. the reason why he is out for this long is because he aggravated it TRYING TO COME BACK EARLY!!! and besides, did u hear lavar say that he didnt want this whole 6.5 mill thing to get in the way of things? he said that, he was thinking about stuff, and he doesnt see him playing anywhere else. the front office WILL NOT trade lavar! just get that through your heads!! Yes our d has been playing great but imagine lavar, healthy, in a gregg williams blitzing dfense. we are talking lawrence taylor #s. and lavar is reasonable, he has more money than anyone can believe. he wouldnt pretend to be injured for 6.5 mill, money he can get in like a week for him

[Jimreaper007]

Lavar is dying not being on the field...

Jansen is the leader of this football team. Laver is the Fire that sparks this team to get better.

Both of them not playing has hurt this football team more than you could ever measure on a stat sheet.

Lavar can afford to be totally healthy before he returns because the defense is fine.


Lavar is a warrior and when he returns the defense will get better...if that is possible

[RedskinRyan]

i believe it would be absurd if LA was doing this. what would make him feel that he is owed $6 million if he isnt playing?

[GhostRider68]

YoungSkin, I do not live in the DC area therefore I don't get to hear 980 am. All I am saying is he can say one thing to the media but be thinking something totally different. He may be a man of honoable intentions and mean everything he says but what if Dan, Joe and GW have a different vision? We don't know the behind the scenes politics that are going on. By the way don't forget when Joe 1st came back it was LA who said on t.v. that Gibbs had to show him something.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

YoungSkin, I do not live in the DC area therefore I don't get to hear 980 am. All I am saying is he can say one thing to the media but be thinking something totally different. He may be a man of honoable intentions and mean everything he says but what if Dan, Joe and GW have a different vision? We don't know the behind the scenes politics that are going on. By the way don't forget when Joe 1st came back it was LA who said on t.v. that Gibbs had to show him something.
Joe and especially GW want LA to stay here, and i hear Gibbs always saying that he is a true redskin. trust me, i wouldnt say these things if i wasnt confident that LA wants to be here. And about LA saying gibbs should show him something, whats wrong with that? he is always optimistic every year and says all these comments about "this is the year for the whole shebang," that u have to be a little weary. and trust me, gibbs most likey has shown something a lot better that the ol ball coach

[Patrick]

Lavar's Injury ...... He's doing WHAT ......... GMAFB ....... :sleeping:

[silverspring]

This is completely utterly ridiculously absurd.
First of all they are sending the guy to get mri after mri and they are keeping him off the field cause it isn't healed. They aren't basing this off his word they are basing it off the mri. It if was off lavar's word he would probably be on the field.

And just cause our defense is good doesn't mean it can't be better and lavar would do just that. Tell me it wouldn't have helped to have lavar pound the bus a couple times to really wear him down. Sure tackles are being made but those shoulder crunching hits do more than just affect the current play.

Lavar is as redskin as they get and it is really not fair for us to give up on a guy that is really committed to the team because an unfortunate injury. No one seems to be saying trade jansen? And honestly when you look at both their injuries jansen's is way more concerning.

Some one earlier whined about Lavar crying and getting all emotional. In this pre-madonna free agent league you don't ever see players cry or get truly emotionally upset when their team isn't doing well. However extreme this may be, it is a rare commodity - a sign of a player that really cares and I find it refreshing. And I could really care less if LaVar is a softy on the sideline as long as he is a qb killer on the field.

[redskin_rich]

In this pre-madonna free agent league you don't ever see players cry or get truly emotionally upset when their team isn't doing well.
Uhh.. You are wrong, Madonna came before free agency. :D

[REDMAN]

Whats the point?

[GibbsRules!]

Uhh.. You are wrong, Madonna came before free agency. :D
:funpost:

Spelling aside, SilverSpring hit the nail on the head!!

[Skins4life]

Did you see the play that "injured" him? No way it keeps him out this long.

um.....it doesnt matter what it looks like on tape. Jansen was walking across the field when his achilles blew up. It doesnt need to appear serious to be serious. Talking about serious - this thread is no where near serious. It must be a joke.

[828791Redskins]

Yeah, our defense is number 2 in the NFL. Without Lavar. So who's to say we need him back? ...ever!

Did you see the play that "injured" him? No way it keeps him out this long.

He's being passive aggressive with Danny over the $6 million, while playing Mr. Sweetheart with our adoring media and fans. Meanwhile, he is earning zero loyalty from Greg Williams or Joe Gibbs; will never see his imagined $6 million; and will be traded at year's end to get us some help on offense -- maybe a quarterback, probably a O-lineman and some draft picks.

For his sake, I hope he lets a new agent negotiate his deal with his new team. This one's incompetence is screwing Lavar, the Redskins and the fans.

Woody,you don't know what you're talking about! Nor does the mules mule who started this thread!

LaVar wants to be out on the field worse than anybody.Our defense is great and Marshall has been playing real good but i've see him cost where LaVar wouldn't have.

He's a superstar and and a gamechanger.And McNabb is afraid of him! They would be the number one defense if he was healthy all year!

[silverspring]

Uhh.. You are wrong, Madonna came before free agency. :D

lol.

[D-Ruck #8]

Have you ever seen GW talking good about Lavar this year. I haven't.

[828791Redskins]

Have you ever seen GW talking good about Lavar this year. I haven't.

Yeah after the falcons preseason game and the after the tampa game,you know the only 2 games he was mildly healthy for.