What happened to akhhorus?

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Why was he banned? Did I miss something?

[whitskins]

He is listed as banned, yes. For the specifics, I was wondering the same thing.

[ShaggySkins]

Him and Kenny (rskinsfan10) had a disagreement. I'm not getting into specifics, I'll let Kenny or another poster go into it further.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Him and Kenny (rskinsfan10) had a disagreement. I'm not getting into specifics, I'll let Kenny or another poster go into it further.
It must had been serious...

[WackyJacky]

Wow.

[IndianBaller27]

I think I remember the little dispute or w/e you wanna call it. It was in the Cherokee. I forgot what it was about though. Akh was being a smart@$$.

[Skinz4lyfe]

Wasn't he a part of the "HR Police" or something like that?

[LATrueRedskin]

WOW. I thought he was just away. I'll miss the guy, he was fun to talk to.

[chrisbcbu]

They had a disagreement during a game on the Game thread. I dont remember why they were disagreeing, but the last thing i remember is rskinfan10 saying he was giong to ban him. But he was warned 3-4 times before he was actually banned, so he had plenty of oppurtunity to stop agruing.

[flave1969]

This is just sad too me.

Having read the thread concerned I saw no abuse, no name calling. Yes there were plenty of attempts to move things on whilst trying to get a last word in, which of course is not ending it at all.

Seems like debate took a blow too me in this case.

I liked Akhh, he brought something different to the table and was prepared to back it up. Seems like there is little value in being such a person.

Sorry if I offend the others involved but I think personally you have banned a valuable member whilst setting up arguments you actually do not want to take part in.

Disclaimer. I am calling it as I see it.

[IndianBaller27]

At least now, it is possible for someone to catch up to him in posts.

[GibbsRules!]

At least now, it is possible for someone to catch up to him in posts.

I'll take JimReap and give anyone 2 to 1 odds... :rolleyes:

[Carmelo]

This is just sad too me.

Having read the thread concerned I saw no abuse, no name calling. Yes there were plenty of attempts to move things on whilst trying to get a last word in, which of course is not ending it at all.

Seems like debate took a blow too me in this case.

I liked Akhh, he brought something different to the table and was prepared to back it up. Seems like there is little value in being such a person.

Sorry if I offend the others involved but I think personally you have banned a valuable member whilst setting up arguments you actually do not want to take part in.

Disclaimer. I am calling it as I see it.

I actually agree. I realize that akh had a way of rubbing certain people the wrong way but he never did that to me. I actually enjoyed his news updates and sometimes clever responses. I definitely think he added a distinct personality to this place and I'd always click on topics with him as the first or last poster to see what he had to say. Who else is going to comb through all the weird news of the world for me? I saw it coming during the aforementioned (sp) thread because I knew he just wouldn't let it go. I wish he would have because despite how he made some others feel, I did enjoy his presence. Is he gone for good or is it temporary?

[GibbsRules!]

I actually agree. I realize that akh had a way of rubbing certain people the wrong way but he never did that to me. I actually enjoyed his news updates and sometimes clever responses. I definitely think he added a distinct personality to this place and I'd always click on topics with him as the first or last poster to see what he had to say. Who else is going to comb through all the weird news of the world for me? I saw it coming during the aforementioned (sp) thread because I knew he just wouldn't let it go. I wish he would have because despite how he made some others feel, I did enjoy his presence. Is he gone for good or is it temporary?
I always caught myself checking my posts prior to submitting them to make sure I had my facts straight. If they weren't you could expect the BS Flag to come a flyin...AKH has a sharp wit and is very quick with a different, but accurate perspective. I could see where he would rub some people the wrong way. If he brought something to the table, you can best believe it was backed up by facts, most notably in the Political Forum. I miss his posts too.
I met Kenny at the first HR tailgate I went to and remember a football hitting a table with some goods on it. The football came from the the next row of tailgaters and nary a soul owned up to it. This sent Kenny into 'Ken Norton' mode as he went looking for the culprit, and justifiably so IMO.
I think they are two good guys who caught each other at the wrong time, in the wrong thread. At least they can look at the fact that they are both Redskin fans and work it out from there. I hope they can work it out. I value both of their opinions highly cause they both bring a lot to the table...JMO

[IMALILTEAPOT]

i liked akh, ive always said he was my fav poster cuz it seemed like he ALWAYS had a funny remark to say

[SkinsKY]

This is just sad too me.

Having read the thread concerned I saw no abuse, no name calling. Yes there were plenty of attempts to move things on whilst trying to get a last word in, which of course is not ending it at all.

Seems like debate took a blow too me in this case.

I liked Akhh, he brought something different to the table and was prepared to back it up. Seems like there is little value in being such a person.

Sorry if I offend the others involved but I think personally you have banned a valuable member whilst setting up arguments you actually do not want to take part in.

Disclaimer. I am calling it as I see it.

Well said Flave. I agree.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

ahhh, he'll be back. (i think)

he post regular over at extreme if you want to talk to him. he seems like he is always online.

[WackyJacky]

Gotta say I agree with everything Flave said. It looked to me like both parties in the debate sorta dug in their heels, and weren't able to "agree to disagree." Irritating? No doubt. Worth banishment? I really don't think so.

I mean no disrespect. I love this board and the guys who run it. But it seems to me that the punishment did not fit the crime.

[flave1969]

I remember Kevin saying that he had only one more Mod to win over and Akhh would be gone. I think perhaps the guys had been rubbed the wrong way, one too many times. It is sad, but is their right.

[Carmelo]

I always caught myself checking my posts prior to submitting them to make sure I had my facts straight. If they weren't you could expect the BS Flag to come a flyin...AKH has a sharp wit and is very quick with a different, but accurate perspective. I could see where he would rub some people the wrong way. If he brought something to the table, you can best believe it was backed up by facts, most notably in the Political Forum. I miss his posts too.
I met Kenny at the first HR tailgate I went to and remember a football hitting a table with some goods on it. The football came from the the next row of tailgaters and nary a soul owned up to it. This sent Kenny into 'Ken Norton' mode as he went looking for the culprit, and justifiably so IMO.
I think they are two good guys who caught each other at the wrong time, in the wrong thread. At least they can look at the fact that they are both Redskin fans and work it out from there. I hope they can work it out. I value both of their opinions highly cause they both bring a lot to the table...JMO
Kenny's the man! THere's no doubting that! Kenny could have the shirt off my back if he wanted it. I also understand where he came from with the ban. I just wish akh would have let it go when he was asked to. I also see where akh was coming from as well. Like you said, I think they just caught each other at the wrong time over the wrong issue. Actually, the issue wasn't even the point by the time the ban came. After a while it just became a matter of principal and akh crossed the line. Even if he had the right to argue his point and even if he was right I was hoping he would just leave it alone.

And isn't that double checking of post that you were doing one of the things that makes this site great?? Because of akh, we all made sure a topic wasn't already posted by him because he was so quick to tell you about yourself. Isn't that one of the reasons this site is so readable?? So uncluttered?

[GibbsRules!]

And isn't that double checking of post that you were doing one of the things that makes this site great?? Because of akh, we all made sure a topic wasn't already posted by him because he was so quick to tell you about yourself. Isn't that one of the reasons this site is so readable?? So uncluttered?
Yes!, it improves the amount of quality postings...totally agree Melo!

[GibbsRules!]

Kenny's the man! THere's no doubting that! Kenny could have the shirt off my back if he wanted it. I also understand where he came from with the ban. I just wish akh would have let it go when he was asked to. I also see where akh was coming from as well. Like you said, I think they just caught each other at the wrong time over the wrong issue. Actually, the issue wasn't even the point by the time the ban came. After a while it just became a matter of principal and akh crossed the line. Even if he had the right to argue his point and even if he was right I was hoping he would just leave it alone.



And you are right about Kenny. And the same goes for the other two admins I met in person, Mike and Mark. They and Kenny went out of their way to not only make me feel welcome here, but at the tailgate parties as well. True hospitality makes for successful tailgates and successful forums indeed!
Those guys are good, true Redskin fans. That is what sets us apart from other teams, the quality of the people backing the team!
Hail Redskins!

[natgbz]

I'll say this much, every now and then you need to realize when to just bite your tongue and let something die. I've seen him over at extremeskins, but he'll realize soon enough that that just isn't quite the place that this is. I think though that he was one of those people where what he wrote on message boards was a very large chunk of his life, which probably explains his number of posts, his quick response to any statement with a link or facts to disprove/prove, and his fervent resolve by which he never backed down.

I never really cared for the way he tried to dig into people, or just said things to trap people into argumets where he'd win, but he had a lot of good ideas, very good at reporting info from everywhere, he brought up some great debates, rubbed some people the wrong way, but he become a problem. I'll have to side with the admins on this one.

[WackyJacky]

I've always had a soft spot for smart-asses, which is why I liked Akh. It's part of my personality disorder... :)

[Carmelo]

And you are right about Kenny. And the same goes for the other two admins I met in person, Mike and Mark. They and Kenny went out of their way to not only make me feel welcome here, but at the tailgate parties as well. True hospitality makes for successful tailgates and successful forums indeed!
Those guys are good, true Redskin fans. That is what sets us apart from other teams, the quality of the people backing the team!
Hail Redskins!
you can't ever say enough good things about the mods here. You just can't. They are all a bunch of stand up guys. That's why I was hoping akh would just respect kenny's wishes and drop the subject.

[flave1969]

The Admins are why I visit this site every day, because it is a great site and it is because of them. It does not change my view that there is a place for guys like Akhh here. I never saw him call people names or abuse them and I think he played by the rules. Such a personality is going to upset people, opinionated people do, but again if you look at the thread both parties wanted to get the last word. Turning the other cheek never really occured to either guy and this is what we ended with.

[GibbsRules!]

I try to focus on the goodness in all people. And I'm sure the Admins will figure it out. This is gonna turn out to be a pro/anti AKH thread and might do more damage than good...

Obviously the Admins are aware of what happened handling the situation the way they feel. It'll all work out in the end...

In the meantime I hope the 'Skins open up a can of whoopass on the Eagles!

[flave1969]

I try to focus on the goodness in all people. And I'm sure the Admins will figure it out. This is gonna turn out to be a pro/anti AKH thread and might do more damage than good...

Obviously the Admins are aware of what happened handling the situation the way they feel. It'll all work out in the end...

In the meantime I hope the 'Skins open up a can of whoopass on the Eagles!

This is the nature of the site we have and I for one appreciate it. It is because of this, that I think a better solution could have been found. As I said earlier I think there is probably a lot gone on that we dont know.

Once again, the Admins do a great job and this is the responsibility they take on by running it. Guys you do a fabulous job.

[GibbsRules!]

This is the nature of the site we have and I for one appreciate it. It is because of this, that I think a better solution could have been found. As I said earlier I think there is probably a lot gone on that we dont know.

Once again, the Admins do a great job and this is the responsibility they take on by running it. Guys you do a fabulous job.
You are right on Flave, the more posts I read from you the more you vault to my top posters listing. Good Stuff!

[rskinsfan10]

This is just sad too me.

Having read the thread concerned I saw no abuse, no name calling. Yes there were plenty of attempts to move things on whilst trying to get a last word in, which of course is not ending it at all.

Seems like debate took a blow too me in this case.

I liked Akhh, he brought something different to the table and was prepared to back it up. Seems like there is little value in being such a person.

Sorry if I offend the others involved but I think personally you have banned a valuable member whilst setting up arguments you actually do not want to take part in.

Disclaimer. I am calling it as I see it.

I wasn't going to respond to this thread, but it seems to have taken a life of it's own so I'll take the time to straighten out a few things.

Name calling isn't the only reason why a person can and will be banned from this site. If a thread seems to be heading downhill, with nothing worthwhile or meaningful to come from it, we will do our best to keep it from going down the wrong path. The game thread is not created to get into debate about the merits of Sean Taylor's (or anyone else's) overall contributions to this team. It's meant to discuss the game at hand. Those things can be discussed within seperate threads created to touch on the subject. While it may be entertaining for other members to sit back and watch others lash out at one another, it is not what we have in mind for hR. You can get those types of kicks in the Potomac if that turns you on, but the Cherokee is policed a bit tougher as to keep that type of rhetoric away from it.

If an owner or mod asks a member to move on, it should be done so. No questions asked. Responses such as "no, I don't won't to move on" or others along those lines are a no-no. It is a quick and easy way to get yourself removed from hR. Why should we allow someone to post freely here if they have shown one of us that they will not respect our authority when it is deemed neccesary to display it?

For the record, I have never set up an argument/debate that I didn't want to take a part of. I will say that a conservative estimate of 11,000 of my over 14,000 posts here were myself engaged in a debate with another member. I will debate my opinion to my last breath, and I don't have a problem with anyone else here doing so. However, when you say things along the lines of "stay away from the deep end of the pool", that goes beyond regular debate. That will only lead to things getting heated, which will then lead to derogatory comments that will not deal with the subject at hand but rather personal attacks, which should be known by now aren't tolerated. If I feel myself, an owner, getting to the point that I am about to start hurling personal attacks, then it is time for the discussion to move on. Somehow I don't think it would be very becoming of me and my position here to level personal attacks at a member, then admonish him for leveling personal attacks himself. That would be hipocritical, and while I'm sure I am guilty of being such more then once in my life, if I recognize myself traveling down that road and can stop myself from doing so, I will. That is why the request was made to move on. A cooler head attempted to prevail, but somehow that seems to be lost within all of this.

Lastly, if you are essentially asked to cool off, it is not wise to attempt to take that disagreement into another thread. Truth be told, akhhorus wasn't going to be banned initially. The second thread where this issue flowed over to was going to be closed. Now, everyone that wanted to post their thoughts on the actual subject at hand would have suffered because of it, but it was an attempt to AGAIN stop the conflict before it escalated. It wasn't until he seemingly shrugged off the possibility of bannishment did the thought occur to take such action. At that point, a pattern of disresepct was being displayed, so what was deemed as the appropriate action was taken.

[Redskin006]

the admins do their job and they do it well. im sure that their was stuff going on between him and the admins that we dont know about. our admins are very fair and have a high tolerance, so he must have done something big to get banned. on the topic of akh, i thought his posts were very very informative and well thought about. i liked reading his posts, but i also noticed that he would personally attack others at times. he will be missed here, but the admins made a decision and im sure their decision was a good one.

[rskinsfan10]

Let my also add this:

If you have been banned before, and have had the fortune to have your membership reinstated, it is really not wise to seemingly make light of the situation and to act as though it is really no big deal to you, if you in fact care whether or not you are allowed to remain a member here. While I'm not saying that you are sentenced to walking on eggshells, you should in fact be a bit more careful in discussing the subject.

[GeneralDisorder]

I've always had a soft spot for smart-asses, which is why I liked Akh. It's part of my personality disorder... :)

What...? What have I done now...?

[flave1969]

I wasn't going to respond to this thread, but it seems to have taken a life of it's own so I'll take the time to get a straighten out a few things.

Name calling isn't the only reason why a person can and will be banned from this site. If a thread seems to be heading downhill, with nothing worthwhile or meaningful to come from it, we will do our best to keep it from going down the wrong path. The game thread is not created to get into debate about the merits of Sean Taylor's (or anyone else's) overall contributions to this team. It's meant to discuss the game at hand. Those things can be discussed within seperate threads created to touch on the subject. While it may be entertaining for other members to sit back and watch others lash out at one another, it is not what we have in mind for hR. You can get those types of kicks in the Potomac if that turns you on, but the Cherokee is policed a bit tougher as to keep that type of rhetoric away from it.

If an owner or mod asks a member to move on, it should be done so. No questions asked. Responses such as "no, I don't won't to move on" or others along those lines are a no-no. It is a quick and easy way to get yourself removed from hR. Why should we allow someone to post freely here if they have shown one of us that they will not respect our authority when it is deemed neccesary to display it?

For the record, I have never set up an argument/debate that I didn't want to take a part of. I will say that a conservative estimate of 11,000 of my over 14,000 posts here where myself engaged in a debate with another member I will debate my opinion to my last breath, and I don't have a problem with anyone else here doing so. However, when you say things along the lines of "stay away from the deep end of the pool", that goes beyond regular debate. That will only lead to things getting heated, which will then lead to derogatory comments that will not deal with the subject at hand but rather personal attacks, which should be known by now aren't tolerated. If I feel myself, an owner, getting to the point that I am about to start hurling personal attacks, then it is time for the discussion to move on. Somehow I don't think it would be very becoming of me and my position here to level personal attacks at a member, then admonish him for leveling personal attacks himself. That would be hipocritical, and while I'm sure I am guilty of being such more then once in my life, if I recognize myself traveling down that road and can stop myself from doing so, I will. That is why the request was made to move on. A cooler head attempted to prevail, but somehow that seems to be lost within all of this.

Lastly, if you are essentially asked to cool off, it is not wise to attempt to take that disagreement into another thread. Truth be told, akhhorus wasn't going to be banned initially. The second thread where this issue flowed over to was going to be closed. Now, everyone that wanted to post their thoughts on the actual subject at hand would have suffered because of it, but it was an attempt to AGAIN stop the conflict before it escalated. It wasn't until he seemingly shrugged off the possibility of bannishment did the thought occur to take such action. At that point, a pattern of disresepct was being displayed, so what was deemed as the appropriate action was taken.

You certainly have no reason to justify your actions, I can see why you felt what you had too do, especially in that second thread. But I also saw many people baiting Akhh in the game thread, looking for a rise which is exactly what they got. I think you could not have been clearer in what you were asking. I will say that I stopped going into the game threads after Week Four because of this to-ing and fro-ing going on every week, perhaps this precedent will make the Game thread a little calmer. Because it was generally overtly negative especially when Brunell was at QB. It does nothing for us overseas fans.

[RedskinsVision]

I was in those threads and read what was going on between Akh and Kenny. I side with our Owner from what I read. He was the only one arguing with the Owner while everyone else was fixed into the "Game" thread.

Akh was a great member in my book, he brought a lot to this forum.. humor and conflict combined in ways only he knew how. He was our Grammar Flag and Historian afficionado. But he did cross the threshold in dealing with the Owner's suggestion of dropping his case and then making light of the possibilities of banishment. It wasn't in the Potomac where he can be more hostile and conflicting so he should've respected his place. He probably assumed his status as a member was secure due to his notoriety and therein lies his fault.

I have seen him on Extreme but he just doesn't seem the same since he's doesn't have the familiarity that he does with us. I don't know for certain but I'd guess that he misses this place. Maybe after a certain penalty time period, the Owners can forgive and give him another chance. But it's up to them and I'll understand whatever the outcome.

[natgbz]

I was in those threads and read what was going on between Akh and Kenny. I side with our Owner from what I read. He was the only one arguing with the Owner while everyone else was fixed into the "Game" thread.

Akh was a great member in my book, he brought a lot to this forum.. humor and conflict combined in ways only he knew how. He was our Grammar Flag and Historian afficionado. But he did cross the threshold in dealing with the Owner's suggestion of dropping his case and then making light of the possibilities of banishment. It wasn't in the Potomac where he can be more hostile and conflicting so he should've respected his place. He probably assumed his status as a member was secure due to his notoriety and therein lies his fault.

I have seen him on Extreme but he just doesn't seem the same since he's doesn't have the familiarity that he does with us. I don't know for certain but I'd guess that he misses this place. Maybe after a certain penalty time period, the Owners can forgive and give him another chance. But it's up to them and I'll understand whatever the outcome.

Couldn't have said it better.

[swheeler]

This is just sad too me.

Having read the thread concerned I saw no abuse, no name calling. Yes there were plenty of attempts to move things on whilst trying to get a last word in, which of course is not ending it at all.

Seems like debate took a blow too me in this case.

I liked Akhh, he brought something different to the table and was prepared to back it up. Seems like there is little value in being such a person.

Sorry if I offend the others involved but I think personally you have banned a valuable member whilst setting up arguments you actually do not want to take part in.

Disclaimer. I am calling it as I see it.

I couldn't agree more. It's exactly the people who don't respect authority who make life interesting. I know a line has to be drawn somewhere and I know that's the admins' call, but I personally would not have made the same decision. I think the forum has gone downhill without akhhorus.

I like the admins here as much as anyone, at least given my short time here, so don't take this as an insult, but I think you screwed this one up. Check out my posts regarding Gibbs: I think he's one of the greatest ever, but I'll still criticize him when I think he's wrong.

[rskinsfan10]

I couldn't agree more. It's exactly the people who don't respect authority who make life interesting. I know a line has to be drawn somewhere and I know that's the admins' call, but I personally would not have made the same decision. I think the forum has gone downhill without akhhorus.

I like the admins here as much as anyone, at least given my short time here, so don't take this as an insult, but I think you screwed this one up. Check out my posts regarding Gibbs: I think he's one of the greatest ever, but I'll still criticize him when I think he's wrong.

We have over 2,000 members here. While I understand that akhhorus was a popular member here, I think you insult myself and the other members here that have contributed alot of their time and insight when you say that this forum has gone downhill since he was banned. One member doesn't make this forum go. The same amount of discussion has being going on since he has left. Our membership has grown. The wheels are still turning. From what I understand, he now posts over at Extremeskins. If you value his opinions and insight that much, maybe you would prefer to be a regular member over there rather then here.

While you may find life interesting by questioning authority, with that comes consequences if you step over the line. There is a difference in sitting in on a council meeting and asking your representative questions about some questionable laws that are proposed. If you get to the point where you are no longer being civil, and the council person asks you get back to a level of civility and you say that you aren't, then more then likely the police will step in and remove you from the premisis.

Maybe you haven't been here long enough to know exactly how things work around here. Without getting into specifics, there is alot more to this situation then what is at face value. While you have the right your opinion, I have no problem giving you mine and telling you that we didn't screw anything up. We try our best NOT to ban members here. It doesn't just happen on a whim. We (owners) put alot of discussion into these matters before final desisions are made. All factors or issues that relate to that poster are weighed before action is taken.

[chrisbcbu]

rskinsfan10, just let this go and close this thread. You can argue for both sides, but most of us dont have the whole picture of what was done and so forth. So for us to even comment on it is strange, and to even argue is even worse. Just my 2 cents.

[rskinsfan10]

rskinsfan10, just let this go and close this thread. You can argue for both sides, but most of us dont have the whole picture of what was done and so forth. So for us to even comment on it is strange, and to even argue is even worse. Just my 2 cents.

You are right Chris, and I will do as you suggest.

[dj_stouty]

Look guys...

Akhhorus crossed the line.

He was repeatedly warned of the "line"...he comphrended that the "line" existed...yet he still consciously crossed that "line". No matter if you have 1 post or 8,172 posts, you have to respect the rules of this site, and those who own and operate it. Its really that easy...

Will he be missed? Definitely. However it was his actions that lead to his departure, not those of the admins that banned him.