hR official game thread: Minnesota-vs-Washington

[CarMike]

Well hR members....its here. The last game of the season for our beloved Redskins. Another season to forget. More downs than up.

Talk about the game in this thread and lets end the season on an upnote. Lets knock the Vikings out of the playoffs while we're at it!

Once again....HTTR!

[CarMike]

Thread open! Have at it!

[LATrueRedskin]

game on! Lets go Skins!!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

alright guys.....this is the last game of the season, lets all enjoy it: win or lose. this will be the last time that we see the skins play for a while and soon enough we will be having redskins withdrawl, lol. just enjoy the game.......lets go redskins!!

[redskin_rich]

Lets do it!
HTTR!

[2Cooley]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chrisbcbu]

Lets go skins!!

[2Cooley]

this is ours to take

[2Cooley]

take advantage of winfield being hurt

[LATrueRedskin]

Yeah Baby! I love this guy!

[2Cooley]

thats what we were missing

[cwh25]

what a return. where was that all seaoson?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

in an unrelated story, sage rosenfels throws a bomb on the ravens on his first play! lol, go sage!

.....back to the skins, go antonio! cya morton!

[LATrueRedskin]

Betts has a chance here to show off his stuff.

[2Cooley]

gibbs commin out 4 wide

[cwh25]

Betts is running hard.

[2Cooley]

we should do this all day

[chrisbcbu]

As i said morton is gone after this season. And his money!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

gibbs commin out 4 wide

Who were the 4? Coles, Gardner, Jacobs and McCants?

[LATrueRedskin]

first down!

[2Cooley]

1st down

[flave1969]

Nice start from Brown.

[2Cooley]

Who were the 4? Coles, Gardner, Jacobs and McCants?

no mccants thrash

[IowaSkinsFan]

As i said morton is gone after this season. And his money!!

Releasing Morton will result in substantial dead money for the team.

[LATrueRedskin]

There was nothing there for Ramsey.

[2Cooley]

what kind of throw was that

[flave1969]

Vikings commentators I hate them already. Do we hand off too deep on running plays.

[IowaSkinsFan]

no mccants thrash

McCants better hope they release Gardner in the offseason. Otherwise he might be in trouble.

[LATrueRedskin]

Let's get it in the endzone Skins

[2Cooley]

do we go 4 downs?

[flave1969]

First Down alright Thrash.

[PGiddy18]

alright guys.....this is the last game of the season, lets all enjoy it: win or lose. this will be the last time that we see the skins play for a while and soon enough we will be having redskins withdrawl, lol. just enjoy the game.......lets go redskins!!


I hear ya lady, if only i could WATCH my team play, but NO, freaking buffy the vampire slayer is on because the STUPID eagles are on CBS :banghead: Please... if you guys would be so kind, keep the Princess informed of what is going on... :cry:

[LATrueRedskin]

McCants better hope they release Gardner in the offseason. Otherwise he might be in trouble.

Yeah I don't like McCants' odds for next year, especially since our WRs are lacking in production.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I am really PO at my cable company today. I have 3 fox stations and all of them are showing Bears/Packers. I am getting Sunday Ticket next season.

[Jimreaper007]

Hey folks

Sorry I'm late...Steak was a little slow on the grill!

Nice punt return and running by Betts

[flave1969]

Redzone come on guys.

[LATrueRedskin]

TD Cooley!!! He's got a number of those this year.

[2Cooley]

what a beast

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

wooooooooo! cooooooooooley!

[Jimreaper007]

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Ramsey and Cooley, going to be deadly next season.

[redskin_rich]

Cooooleeeyy!!

[2Cooley]

he now leads our team in TD's

[chrisbcbu]

COOOOOOOOOOOOLEEY!!!!

[flave1969]

Coooooooooooooley. Come on, one more this game and he will be joint leading scorer. We gotta be happy with Cooley.

[Jimreaper007]

Bye Chad Morton....

That kid took his job

[LATrueRedskin]

Ramsey and Cooley, going to be deadly next season.

Absolutely. That little out route has torched defenses this year. It's been pretty much every TD pass he's caught has been on that route.

[Jimreaper007]

Now is the real test....

Let's go defense!

[flave1969]

he now leads our team in TD's

Portis has Seven. 5 Rush 2 Receiving.

[LATrueRedskin]

Coooooooooooooley. Come on, one more this game and he will be joint leading scorer. We gotta be happy with Cooley.

What a job Gibbs & Co. did in drafting Cooley. I've never heard of him until we drafted him. He's going to be pretty damn good for us.

[Jimreaper007]

Expect any and everything from the Vikings today...A desparate team does desparate things.

[2Cooley]

Portis has Seven. 5 Rush 2 Receiving.


sorry receiving

[PGiddy18]

Way to go offense... we scored first... lets keep it with us being the only ones that score (game center is RIDICULiouSLY slow, we haven't scored a TD yet there!) How does the stadium sound?

[flave1969]

This will be as tough a test for our D as they have had all year.

[LATrueRedskin]

Expect any and everything from the Vikings today...A desparate team does desparate things.

Absolutely, and we can't blitz as much as we'd like because of a guy named Moss. Our DLine needs to continue their great play.

[LATrueRedskin]

Way to go offense... we scored first... lets keep it with us being the only ones that score (game center is RIDICULiouSLY slow, we haven't scored a TD yet there!) How does the stadium sound?

It's alright. Unfortunately, not very many people there, I can see a lot of seats.

[Jimreaper007]

Who's starting for Smoot?

[redskin_rich]

Who's starting for Smoot?
Walt Harris , I think

[IowaSkinsFan]

It's alright. Unfortunately, not very many people there, I can see a lot of seats.

Maybe they are smoking cigars right now?

[Jimreaper007]

An awful lot of misdirection on that play. Noble could have sniffed that out if he shed his block

[IowaSkinsFan]

Walt Harris , I think

Post said he was going to.

[flave1969]

Trick Play. First Play. What a surprise.

[LATrueRedskin]

Maybe they are smoking cigars right now?
Wouldn't be surprised.

[2Cooley]

this is where we need to watch

[IowaSkinsFan]

I hope this doesn't turn into a shootout. I don't think we will be able to keep up.

[Jimreaper007]

The Viking are going to pick their spots today it seems and stay with the run unless our offense is consistent.

[LATrueRedskin]

Vikings run game isn't working so far.

[PGiddy18]

It's alright. Unfortunately, not very many people there, I can see a lot of seats.

They should have given a seat to me, I would have driven down.... I heard somebody got 2 tickets for 47 dollars, if only i'd have known i would have been all about getting there.

[2Cooley]

yea!!!!!!

[Jimreaper007]

Good Play D!!!!!!!

[LATrueRedskin]

WOW nice defensive play! Griffin bringing the wood.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Great job D.

[2Cooley]

that boy is quick

[Jimreaper007]

That kid Brown is a keeper.....Bye-bye Chad!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

nice job defense...!

[josh90286]

i no longer want chad

[flave1969]

Way to go D. They have been impressive. I have eaten my hat ten times over this year because of their play.

[IowaSkinsFan]

If Garnell Wilds, Rufus Brown, Sean Springs and Walt Harris contain the Vikings WR today, you can bet the team will play hardball with Smoot on contract negotiations this offseason.

[LATrueRedskin]

They should have given a seat to me, I would have driven down.... I heard somebody got 2 tickets for 47 dollars, if only i'd have known i would have been all about getting there.

WOW 47? Even I could afford that. This is the first year I haven't gone to a game. We should have gone together!

[Skins57]

Do you guys think Brown may be taking mortons job next year?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Antonio Brown with 8 on the PR. I'll take that every time.

[Jimreaper007]

If the Skins can score here the Vikings will have to open it up because they know the Skins are capable of shutting them down.

[sdredskinsfan]

That kid Brown is a keeper.....Bye-bye Chad!

Ditto.

[LATrueRedskin]

If Garnell Wilds, Rufus Brown, Sean Springs and Walt Harris contain the Vikings WR today, you can bet the team will play hardball with Smoot on contract negotiations this offseason.

Yep. If we show we can play great vs. a TOP passing team, Smoot might have some trouble.

[2Cooley]

Do you guys think Brown may be taking mortons job next year?


yep

[2Cooley]

Yep. If we show we can play great vs. a TOP passing team, Smoot might have some trouble.


might decied to take the contract offered

[Jimreaper007]

How is E.J Henderson doing this year (maryland Product)?

[LATrueRedskin]

Good pass blocking by our crew!

[2Cooley]

thrash is lookin nice

[Jimreaper007]

Ramsey is throwing darts today.

[Skins57]

bad throw by Ram

[josh90286]

wow we went deep

[LATrueRedskin]

Went deep, but Ramseys pass wasn't where it should have been.

[2Cooley]

Mike WIlliams would have caught that

[Jimreaper007]

That was a nice looking downfield pass by Ramsey.

He looks very confident

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

that was underthrown.....try it again!

[PGiddy18]

WOW 47? Even I could afford that. This is the first year I haven't gone to a game. We should have gone together!

Had you said this 2 days ago La!!! lol come one now! OHH!!! they just showed the Cooley TD during the Iggles game, its PRETTY!!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Do you guys think Brown may be taking mortons job next year?

They are virtually the same player. Brown doesn't really stand much of a chance to play at WR from the looks of it. He would have to be substantially better than Morton at returning kicks in order to convince the team to eat the dead money that would come with releasing Morton, IMO.

[LATrueRedskin]

another first down! And we're doing it with the passing game.

[2Cooley]

Went deep, but Ramseys pass wasn't where it should have been.


short pass

[redskin_rich]

Nice move TJ!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

jacobs looked like coles right there.....tough running by betts...

[Skins57]

that might be why Joe does not go deep often. We can never seem to see to hit a wr in stride always expect the wr to make a great catch

[2Cooley]

who will come in relief of betts

[IowaSkinsFan]

Was that a 20 yard pass play?

[Jimreaper007]

Beautiful effort by Jacobs....

If the skins can get another reciever Taylor is a great #3 guy. I would pick him over thrash because he has a knack for getting open more than Thrash.

[flave1969]

Looks like we are laying it out there today.

[LATrueRedskin]

They are virtually the same player. Brown doesn't really stand much of a chance to play at WR from the looks of it. He would have to be substantially better than Morton at returning kicks in order to convince the team to eat the dead money that would come with releasing Morton, IMO.

I think Brown makes much better decisions where to go and makes better jukes and cuts. Morton just runs straight and gets tackled by the first guy.

[IowaSkinsFan]

who will come in relief of betts

Cartwright.

[2Cooley]

I dont want betts to do good cause i dont want him to make me question portis

[Jimreaper007]

Betts needs about 10 more pounds and we do not need a Fullback.

[2Cooley]

he trips alot

[PGiddy18]

Our offense is dominating!

Figures the week I can't see it. But somebody asked a good question, who WOULD come in for Betts?

[IowaSkinsFan]

I hate reverses. I absolutely hate them, like JoeDaSchmoe hates die hard Catholicism. I hate them.

[LATrueRedskin]

Jacobs' fall was a drive killer.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

face plant for taylor, that was embarrassing.....

[chrisbcbu]

Had you said this 2 days ago La!!! lol come one now! OHH!!! they just showed the Cooley TD during the Iggles game, its PRETTY!!!

Try this link out and see if it works. It works for me just have to turn my volume to the max to hear it tho. But its better than watching the eagles play.

http://www.kfan.com/listennow_secure.html

[IowaSkinsFan]

That play completely stunted this drive. Killed it.

[flave1969]

Come on guys make that first.

[Skins57]

great play

[Jimreaper007]

NICE PLAY RAMSEY!!!

[IowaSkinsFan]

I stand corrected.

[2Cooley]

not a possesion reciver

[LATrueRedskin]

WOW something we haven't done much this year.

[Skins57]

That play completely stunted this drive. Killed it.
not quite yet

[flave1969]

Coles, Way too go.

[IowaSkinsFan]

How long has it been since we had 2-20 yard completions in the same game?

[2Cooley]

what was that

corey raymer

[LATrueRedskin]

What a terrible decision by Ramsey. Unbelievable.

[Skins57]

not quite yet


ok now it is killed

[sdredskinsfan]

Ramsey's our future. Yeeehawww!!!

[Jimreaper007]

Ramsey wants that one back....

And oh by the way....penalty on Raymer. There is your weak link on the line.

[flave1969]

Patrick, Patrick, Patrick.

[chrisbcbu]

Darn bad throw.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

who the hell was ramsey throwing that to? :(

[IowaSkinsFan]

What happened there?

[redskin_rich]

Crap!!
no surprise, Raymer was holding.

[2Cooley]

who is number 77

[sdredskinsfan]

What a terrible decision by Ramsey. Unbelievable.

Just became a Redskins' fan?

[IowaSkinsFan]

Ramsey wants that one back....

And oh by the way....penalty on Raymer. There is your weak link on the line.

That is the obligatory holding call on Raymer. At least we got it out of the way early, eh?

[LATrueRedskin]

Just became a Redskins' fan?
Nope, it shocks me everytime.

[2Cooley]

doug williams

[chrisbcbu]

who the hell was ramsey throwing that to? :(

Apparently a screen to betts!

[sdredskinsfan]

who the hell was ramsey throwing that to? :(

That's a question I ask myself at least a few times per game.

[IowaSkinsFan]

who is number 77

Randy Thomas.

[PennSkinsFan]

Those rae the exact kind of passes that makes Gibbs nervous about Ramsey. For all you wandering what we are talking about, that was it. He was under pressure, no one was open, you throw it away, instead he tried to force something that was not there.

[Jimreaper007]

Should have tossed that one out of bounds....

That is the type of thing Joe Gibbs tutoring will help him with. I am not going to ever blame a player for trying to make a play. We need a big defensive stop here and we are back in business.

[frankez99]

Still waiting for someone to make up an excuse for Ramsey's int...probably the long grass?

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

How long has it been since we had 2-20 yard completions in the same game?
and in the same quarter too!

[2Cooley]

That is the obligatory holding call on Raymer. At least we got it out of the way early, eh?


dockery will be good for at least one too

[PGiddy18]

Interception? (is that what happened?)

[LATrueRedskin]

WOW Sean Taylor got nasty on Randy Moss.

[luvin da skins]

oh patrick, come on man

[2Cooley]

dockery is ownin williams

[2Cooley]

Interception? (is that what happened?)

yea

[IowaSkinsFan]

Let's see what the D can do. Minny has decent field position.

[2Cooley]

tell smoot that is how you tackle

[LATrueRedskin]

Bad choice by Marshall on that tackle, he could have gotten him.

[chrisbcbu]

Interception? (is that what happened?)

yes.

Did you get that link that i posted to try and listen to it?

[josh90286]

they have a nice offensive gameplan this week.

[IowaSkinsFan]

WOW Sean Taylor got nasty on Randy Moss.

How so?

[sdredskinsfan]

Those rae the exact kind of passes that makes Gibbs nervous about Ramsey. For all you wandering what we are talking about, that was it. He was under pressure, no one was open, you throw it away, instead he tried to force something that was not there.

Also, that kind of pass shows me yet again that he has no touch on his passes. That is really worrisome to me. Gibbs would be smart to at least bring in a cheap FA or a low draft pick to compete with our pathetic QBs.......unless, perhaps, Hasselbeck could be serviceable.

[Jimreaper007]

Still waiting for someone to make up an excuse for Ramsey's int...probably the long grass?


I take it you are not a Ramsey Fan...

This just in.....all QB's in the league have throws they want back.

[IowaSkinsFan]

they have a nice offensive gameplan this week.

Minny knows what to do offensively.

[2Cooley]

we need a spy

[Skins57]

who is number 77

Thomas

Man Dockery beat up on Williams on that INT

[flave1969]

These Vikes are so dangerous.

[LATrueRedskin]

How so?

a big neck tackle on Moss that spun him around and stopped the first down.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I take it you are not a Ramsey Fan...

This just in.....all QB's in the league have throws they want back.

Brett Favre is at the top of that list.

[chrisbcbu]

We need Arrington to spy on the quarter back runs like that.

[IowaSkinsFan]

a big neck tackle on Moss that spun him around and stopped the first down.

Like the Roy Williams takedown on TO?

[frankez99]

I take it you are not a Ramsey Fan...

This just in.....all QB's in the league have throws they want back.

Just some QB's more than others....

[IowaSkinsFan]

We need Arrington to spy on the quarter back runs like that.

Arrington is on IR.

[Jimreaper007]

Brett Favre is at the top of that list.


AMEN....

Let's Bench Favre for throwing a pick and Peyton Manning too!

Those two guys are bums

:D

[chrisbcbu]

We got to hold them to 3 here...comeon D

[IowaSkinsFan]

Big third down here.

[2Cooley]

AMEN....

Let's Bench Favre for throwing a pick and Peyton Manning too!

Those two guys are bums

:D


well both their teams win

[PGiddy18]

yes.

Did you get that link that i posted to try and listen to it?

have to restart the computer to update windows media player. GO SKINS!! (I'll be back, so you don't gotta worry :gwink:. )

[chrisbcbu]

Arrington is on IR.

Yes i know, but we NEED him. Thats all im saying.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Unofrtunately for those of us watching on TV, Bill Maas is doing commentary.

Is it just me, or does he do and unusual amount of Skins games?

[frankez99]

AMEN....

Let's Bench Favre for throwing a pick and Peyton Manning too!

Those two guys are bums

:D

Once again..the inevitable comparisons come out.....

[IowaSkinsFan]

Yes i know, but we NEED him. Thats all im saying.

Roger that.

[LATrueRedskin]

Like the Roy Williams takedown on TO?

a little bit. Taylor jumped at him and grabbed his neck and spun him around completely. Could have easily caused an injury.

[Jimreaper007]

Big third down here.


Yes a big stop is needed here. The Defense needs to step up for Ramsey.

[2Cooley]

jeff geroge will get some pt

[sdredskinsfan]

I take it you are not a Ramsey Fan...

This just in.....all QB's in the league have throws they want back.

You should be Ramsey's agent. With his too-often overthrows and consistent lack of touch, Ramsey still has a ways to go before he is a playoff caliber QB.

[IowaSkinsFan]

a little bit. Taylor jumped at him and grabbed his neck and spun him around completely. Could have easily caused an injury.

He's lucky he didn't draw a penalty.

[LATrueRedskin]

Taylor is hitting hard out there, another one on Onterrio Smith.

[Skins57]

AMEN....

Let's Bench Favre for throwing a pick and Peyton Manning too!

Those two guys are bums

:D


The difference is those guys win our guys do not

[IowaSkinsFan]

You can tell this Minny offense has been playing together, under 1 system, for a long time.

[Jimreaper007]

They are doing a lot of play action to freeze the LB's

That stiff-arm was wicked

[2Cooley]

whoa

[LATrueRedskin]

WOW what a stiff arm on Walt Harris. That's embarrassing.

[frankez99]

Yes a big stop is needed here. The Defense needs to step up for Ramsey.

I think Ramsey needs to step up for the Defense for once.....

[2Cooley]

put the clamp on

[sdredskinsfan]

AMEN....

Let's Bench Favre for throwing a pick and Peyton Manning too!

Those two guys are bums

:D

Are you suggesting Ramsey is even remotely close to the caliber of these two QBs? The anger with Ramsey is NOT just this one horrid throw.

[IowaSkinsFan]

We may not be able to avoid that shoot out, at least not on the other side of the scoreboard.

[2Cooley]

yesssssssssssss thats a sack

[LATrueRedskin]

What?!?!?!

[redskin_rich]

What kind of BS call is that???

[2Cooley]

what

[Jimreaper007]

The difference is those guys win our guys do not


And they would never win if you benched them (Favre/Manning) while they were learning the game. At some point you have to commit to the guy and take the lumps that come with development.

[sdredskinsfan]

I think Ramsey needs to step up for the Defense for once.....

Agreed. I feel sorry for the defense; they have to do more than they should to get this team a win.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Bad call.

[2Cooley]

36 the beast

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

we could be up 14-0 right now. im still mad about that INT.....

lets go D! hold em!

[Jimreaper007]

Taylor laid wood there.....

[LATrueRedskin]

Taylor with ANOTHER big hit! Saved a TD.

[IowaSkinsFan]

If we hold them to a FG here, that will swing the momentum.

[2Cooley]

false start

[LATrueRedskin]

Yes! Skins defense is really showing me something here.

[Jimreaper007]

Excellent Stand by the D!!!!!!!!

[sdredskinsfan]

Would it be the Redskins this year without at least one personal foul?

[LATrueRedskin]

WHAT....A.......STOP.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

GREAT stand by the D!

[2Cooley]

moss is wearing weve

[redskin_rich]

Good job D!!

[Jimreaper007]

YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That was huge!!!!!

[flave1969]

Well done D.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Great job D. Minny going for it?

[sdredskinsfan]

Who needs Smoot anyway? J/k.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Sean Taylor was so key on that series!!

How so?

[LATrueRedskin]

Great job D. Minny going for it?

Minny got the FG. 7-3 Skins.

[luvin da skins]

that was really an unbelievable stop by the defense!!!!!!!!!!!!even withthe bs call

[PennSkinsFan]

Taylor and Evans are having good games.

[sdredskinsfan]

How so?
:lol1:

[IowaSkinsFan]

I wouldn't mind seeing Gus in this game. Think we can get Sean Taylor to oblige?

[2Cooley]

Great job D. Minny going for it?


nope

[flave1969]

Sean Taylor was so key on that series!!

If he makes a bad play watchout. Some will blast him.

[PennSkinsFan]

that was really an unbelievable stop by the defense!!!!!!!!!!!!even withthe bs call

Nah. Watching the replay, it was roughing the passer. Griffin shoved him after the ball was thrown, stupid play.

[Jimreaper007]

Sean Taylor was so key on that series!!


That whoo-hit Taylor put on Mo' was the key. Taylor laid major wood on that one. Taylor has become the emotional leader on the defense. Like Lavar, his hits/big plays can fire up the whole team and change the game.

[2Cooley]

how ironic

[sdredskinsfan]

Ya think Gibbs will go ultra conservative again now that Ramsey has screwed up?

[Skins57]

And they would never win if you benched them (Favre/Manning) while they were learning the game. At some point you have to commit to the guy and take the lumps that come with development.


I agree and Ram will get his chance next year. We have seen how loyal Joe is to his starters so if Ram is ever gonna make he has to do next year. PLain and simple. I hope he does as I really like him but his biggest strength is his arm(so I hear) but he does not seem to be able to hit the long balls. So next year will be Ramseys last chance in Washington, I believe. With this defense he only has to be average to win so he should be ok if he is half as good as some think he can be

[IowaSkinsFan]

Who needs Smoot anyway? J/k.

You can bet your bottom dollar that if the 4 CB's that are active today, Springs, Harris, Wilds and Brown, contain the Vikings WR, Smoot will not get the contract he desires and will probably not be in DC next season. Might wind up getting a tag and traded, like Champ.

[2Cooley]

is there an award for what thrash

[LATrueRedskin]

James Thrash is a gamer. What a football player.

[Skins57]

I was worried about our St coverage units but Minn is making ours look great :D

[luvin da skins]

Nah. Watching the replay, it was roughing the passer. Griffin shoved him after the ball was thrown, stupid play.
oh ok aint got no tv just watching on game center,thanx.still a great stop though

[IowaSkinsFan]

So next year will be Ramseys last chance in Washington, I believe. With this defense he only has to be average to win so he should be ok if he is half as good as some think he can be

I agree with that.

[sdredskinsfan]

What's the cap hit if we release Morton, either before or after June 1st? Anybody know?

[2Cooley]

TD time fellas

[redskin_rich]

Special teams looking great.

[Jimreaper007]

Helluva Return by thrash!!!!!

Penalty on the Vikes!


Ok let's go Ramsey settle down and go back to Betts. Good solid running and timely passing keeps Culpepper on the bench and our Defense rested.

[IowaSkinsFan]

We are killing them on KO returns.

[LATrueRedskin]

We are killing them on KO returns.

The Vikings look dreadful on ST.

[Jimreaper007]

Yep the returns have been the difference thus far. Coming out in 4 WR sets is pretty interesting but effective.

[luvin da skins]

talk about good field position. all day baby!

[IowaSkinsFan]

Need to go back to Betts and grind it out.

[LATrueRedskin]

4 Wide for the Skins...