Final 2004 Youth Report and Poll on Rookie of the Year

[PennSkinsFan]

Here you go (http://www.hailredskins.com/youthreport04.htm)


The Youth Report will return for it's foruth season in 2005!

[Spence]

Excellent work. I'd give Sean Taylor a grade of B, but otherwise I agreed with what you wrote.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

great write up. i actually agree with everything.

[chrisbcbu]

Would you consider Cooley being a 3rd rounder? Considering we gave up a 2nd in next years draft to get the guy!

I know we drafted him in the 3rd but we gave up alot for the guy. He is well worth it tho.

[joethefan]

Excellent work. I'd give Sean Taylor a grade of B, but otherwise I agreed with what you wrote.

You would have given him a B? Based on what? He's a rookie? Just curious?

[Spence]

You would have given him a B? Based on what? He's a rookie? Just curious?Based on his on-field performance. He missed a game and didn't start the season that well, after a great preseason. He delivered some brutal hits, but I thought he was out of position on pass plays on more than a few occasions. He had a good rookie season, but I thought he was capable of more.

[SkinsKY]

I think of Taylor more of a B+. He got worked by some veteran prowess at the end of the Dallas game and had some mental breakdowns. His string of penalties count against him as well.

[PennSkinsFan]

I think of Taylor more of a B+. He got worked by some veteran prowess at the end of the Dallas game and had some mental breakdowns. His string of penalties count against him as well.

True, very true. I think I forget to look at stuff like that and instead focused in on the progress he made from week one to week 17. But, your right, those penalties were stupid and he shoudl have to stop and should have been reflected in the grade.

[Cruising270]

Nice write up, thx!

I think you can argue the Sean Taylor A or B score but I'll go with A just becasuse he did adapt well to the NFL and made several nice picks and several HARSH takles.

[ConradCountry]

I have to disagree with the assesment of Dockery, the penalties were maddening some times but his play was not rsporadic at all. He was dominant in the running game and very good for a man his size in the passing game. His actual play on the field was less sporadic then Randy Thomas. I never saw Laroi Glocver or Kevin Williams blow by Dockery for a sack, or how about him dominanting Shuan Rogers in the Lions game.

If I am running behind anyone on the line it is Dockery the only guy Thomas included that got a push in the running game.

Dockery deserves a B and an arrow up, this kid is making the pro bowl next year.

[PennSkinsFan]

I have to disagree with the assesment of Dockery, the penalties were maddening some times but his play was not rsporadic at all. He was dominant in the running game and very good for a man his size in the passing game. His actual play on the field was less sporadic then Randy Thomas. I never saw Laroi Glocver or Kevin Williams blow by Dockery for a sack, or how about him dominanting Shuan Rogers in the Lions game.

If I am running behind anyone on the line it is Dockery the only guy Thomas included that got a push in the running game.

Dockery deserves a B and an arrow up, this kid is making the pro bowl next year.

Don't think so Conrad, hsi play was sporadic, and that is why most articles and Redsksin reporters are saying that his position may be upgraded.

[ConradCountry]

Don't think so Conrad, hsi play was sporadic, and that is why most articles and Redsksin reporters are saying that his position may be upgraded.

Which game was he getting beat in, I watched every game and I would be hard pressed to come up with a game when he got beat up.

I do however remember Thomas getting blown by by Kevin Williams for a sack and a fumble, I remember La'Roi Glover beatting Thomas for a sack in both Cowboys games.

In terms of penalties when a new QB is taking teh snaps people are going to flase start and he is the only young guy on the line.

Dockery is 24 and in his 2nd year and I would rank him as a solid starter at the OG position and their are a number of teams in the league that would be happy to start him. Maybe if we got a solid veteran C bside him he would do a bit better.

[PennSkinsFan]

This is Joe Gibbs football my friend, and him and Bguel do not take kindly to mistakles and penalties. Dockery was the most penalized Lineman in 2004, and that is saying something considering we had raymer on the Line and that Dockery was right beside the ball. I heard that several times from several different commentators, wandering why he had so many false starts when he was right beside the ball. Fact is, I think Dockery will be a reserve in 2005.

[PennSkinsFan]

Each season ending review will come with a poll. Here is the first one

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Cooley had a great year, but Sean Taylor had a monster impact on the team and on the league. This vote is for the Beast of the East, Sean Taylor.

[PennSkinsFan]

I went with Cooley because of Impact. His blossoming into the safe pass for Ramsey and his emergence of a red zone thread bolstered the offense in the latte rpart fo the season. The offense, little in accmplishment, would have been even less accomplished without Chris Cooley.

[smoot]

im glad that you finally got boschetti right

[silverspring]

Great report.
i voted cooley, taylor had too many penalties and off the field issues. Cooley seems much more mature although taylor might have more raw talent.

[hail2skins]

I totally and wholeheartedly disagree with everything you wrote. J/K

Good writeup dude. I would have given Taylor a B as well because of the stupid penalties he made. Other than that, I think you did a great job. Cut and paste this somewhere because you'll probably never get another compliment from me again. :D


why is Cooley's jersery on available in authentic? I want a replica. An authentic would take away from my Vegas fund.

[suppitty]

Taylor had a pretty good year, but he has A LOT to work on. He was beat a lot down field this season, he took terrible angles consistently, and he must have had close to 100 yards in penalties. I voted for cooley because he actually had a greater impact on different games' outcomes. Taylor never realy made a game-changing play, but cooley delivered, especially in the red zone, which was one of our greatest weaknesses this year.

[openallnight]

Excellent review PSF! My only point of contention would be cooley's improved blocking. Just when it looked like he was improving he'd have another bad game. Hopefully, another off season in the weight room, learning the system and working on his technique will make Cooley the well rounded player you predict.

[Jimreaper007]

Love Cooley but Taylor made a greater impact in more games.

[LATrueRedskin]

Either way, our rookies looked pretty darn good this year. I'd give Cooley the nod because of all the TD's he caught as a rookie and he caught all the passes that our WR's couldn't catch during the beginning part of the season.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Here you go (http://www.hailredskins.com/youthreport04.htm)


The Youth Report will return for it's foruth season in 2005!

I voted for Cooley. I thought he had a much bigger impact when little was expected of him, as compared to Sean Taylor. Cooley didn't have the stupid penalties and didn't taunt opposing WR who were overthrown as opposed to Taylor making a big play.

[AGibbsGirl]

About Dockery, even though he "doe snot" want the recognition about the penalties, was he the worst offender on the team? I can't find individual penalty stats from my regular sources.

I think the penalties were a huge factor this year, the youngins' will need to settle down next year, on and off the field...

I'm going with Cooley because he really adapted well to the system this year and saved a few games for us. Shawn was awesome, the best draft pick we've done in some time, but a few boneheaded penalties keep him from being my choice

[tbfoster1]

great write up! i went with taylor. hes made a big impact on the defense this year, yes he has had his penalties, missed assignments and such, but hes young and he will overcome those things. i really don't care about the things that happened off the field, of course i seem to turn a blind eye when it is a redskins player with bad press. cooley had an amazing year and i can't wait to see him more involved in the offense. 37 receptions and 6 were for tds. thats impressive considering the amount of receptions

dockery is a false starting sun of a gun isn't he? when i see the refs start rolling their hands i always think it is him, i'm sure he will improve. do you guys remember shar pordanish? he was the false starting king in my book

[coleman51]

Don't think so Conrad, hsi play was sporadic, and that is why most articles and Redsksin reporters are saying that his position may be upgraded.


I agree with Conrad mostly. Dockery was shaky at times, but he was the better G of the two. I would rate him a B with potential.

In my arm chair QB opinion, Thomas was the weak link at G. I noticed him get pushed around A LOT this year. Especially against Dallas. that game stands out the most in my mind. Thomas gets pushed back to the QB in pass protection quite a bit, and that is not acceptable. Collapsing pockets do not help a good passing game.

Dockery run blocks better than Thomas also. I'd have to say Thomas was not worth the contract that Snyder paid him. I would like to see another guy replace Thomas, not Dockery. One more year for Dockery to prove he is better than just good.

[coleman51]

Excellent work. I'd give Sean Taylor a grade of B, but otherwise I agreed with what you wrote.


I'd give Taylor a C. He was charged with too many stupid penalties and was burned in pass coverage more than once. He has a lot of work to do, but the potential is there to be very good.

He should stop taunting opponents also, it is a stupid thing that a lot of guys on this team like to do. This is the NFL, you aren't going to rattle too many guys with a big mouth. Usually the biggest mouths, eat the most crow in the end.

[Beast56Redskin]

Great report.
i voted cooley, taylor had too many penalties and off the field issues. Cooley seems much more mature although taylor might have more raw talent.


i agree. cooley developed more and overachieved. st will be a menace. but cooley got it done more often this year

[AGibbsGirl]

i really don't care about the things that happened off the field, of course i seem to turn a blind eye when it is a redskins player with bad press.

Normally I wouldn't either (well, not too much) but didn't he have to sit out a game because of getting in trouble off the field?

[chrisbcbu]

Normally I wouldn't either (well, not too much) but didn't he have to sit out a game because of getting in trouble off the field?

yes, for the DUI he was inactive for that game.

[TupaFan]

I went with Cooley. He did have more of an impact. Scored some points. I like that!! :)

[pickwick]

Simply an amazing finish. Thank you for all the hard work you put into the Youth Report.

:banger:

[guinness4health]

we finally have a great youth movement on this squad

for the first time in years we have some fine young defensive talent to build from within, i would like to get some young talent for our defensive line and for the offensive skill positions...

if we are healthier next season i think we are finally will have a solid special teams with a lot of these fine young defensive players seeing consistent playing time on the specials units....

if we mange the cap properly this youth movement is going to make it possible to field a very competitive team in the coming years...

[IMALILTEAPOT]

i was on the sean taylor bandwagon last summer, and i did well. now im on the trade down and free agency band wagon, and i think it will do well also

[bgforever]

Cooley, within the framework of last season's offense was special. However, the toastmasters were in Sean Taylors house every game! He responded well as the season progressed and by season's end he turned in a classic duel with one of the all time greats!

[X-Factor13]

Before i say anything, aren't the nfc east safties the best around? you've got roy williams, brian dawkins, michael lewis, sean taylor, and darren woodson played some good time in dallas. Ah, but back to the question. I think it was cooley even though i LOVE sean taylor and everything he did, i think that cooley was more consistent with his play. He also provided scoring for a terrible and underacheiving offense. A lot of people may not know this but he led the ncaa in receptions his last year in college. look for him to make a big splash next year, Tony Gonzales style.

[Redskin006]

i said taylor. he came into the season as a second string safety. and then when injuries came along on the defense he was "forced" to play. he went and learned how to play the game. he turned into a leader on the football field. he helped anchor a very good group of db's and a very good defense. although he had off the field issues, you cannot hold those against him. cooley was great all season, very consistent. but, i dont think that his impact was as great as taylor's. but either way we had a great bunch of rookies who i look forward to seeing there progression and maturation in the nfl.

[LuvSkins17]

I voted for Cooley and I gave him an A. He exceded all of my expectations this season and I think we found a gem in this kid. No questions........ On or OFF the field.

[Jimreaper007]

Cooley was righteous on a sinful offense, but Taylor was evil on a nasty defense.

[kempcolts]

Great review of the rookie class and I must agree with several other posters we have a lot to build on with this group. My pick goes to Cooley, for the fact that on a offense that didnot show much until late in the season he was the one bright spot weekend and out. Taylor was simply great to me, he had some problems but he adjusted well for a rookie, but he also had a better supporting cast around him on defense than Cooley did on offense.

[Seebs]

It was a close choice but I went for ST as D was so much better than O!

[RedskinRyan]

i felt the rankins were a bit high for some players. like you said TJ didnt warrant an 'A' because he didnt get much playing time, but then clemons got an A, and he wasnt getting much time either.