View Full Version : Any interest in Travis Taylor?
truant
01-07-2005, 03:54 PM
I can already see the "none" answers, but look at what's available via free agency.
Drew Haddad UFA Bills
Cedric James ERFA Patriots
David Givens RFA Patriots
Kevin Kasper RFA Patriots
David Patten UFA Patriots
Kendall Newson ERFA Dolphins
Freddie Milons RFA Ravens
Travis Taylor UFA Ravens
T.J. Houshmandzadeh UFA Bengals
CJ Jones ERFA Browns
Andra Davis RFA Browns
Andre King UFA Browns
Sean Morey ERFA Steelers
Lee Mays RFA Steelers
Plaxico Burress UFA Steelers
JJ Moses ERFA Texans
Corey Bradford UFA Texans
Marvin Harrison UFA Colts
Troy Walters UFA Colts
Cortez Hankton RFA Jaguars
Troy Edwards UFA Jaguars
Lane Danielson ERFA Titans
Todd DeVoe ERFA Titans
Romar Crenshaw ERFA Broncos
Ronald Curry ERFA Raiders
Malcolm Floyd ERFA Chargers
Bobby Shaw UFA Chargers
Eddie Drummond RFA Lions
Tai Streets UFA Lions
Kelvin Kight UFA Packers
Kelly Campbell RFA Vikings
Ryan Hoag ERFA Vikings
Aaron Hosack ERFA Vikings
Mike Furrey ERFA Rams
Dane Looker UFA Rams
Reggie Newhouse ERFA Cardinals
Nathan Poole RFA Cardinals
Alex Bannister UFA Seahawks
Cedrick Wilson RFA 49ers
Curtis Conway UFA 49ers
Antoine Burns ERFA Panthers
Karl Hankton UFA Panthers
Micah Ross UFA Panthers
Talman Gardner ERFA Saints
Derek McCoy ERFA Buccaneers
DeAndrew Rubin ERFA Buccaneers
Edell Shepherd RFA Buccaneers
Tim Brown UFA Buccaneers
Joey Galloway UFA Buccaneers
Charles Lee UFA Buccaneers
Frank Murphy UFA Buccaneers
Bill Schroeder UFA Buccaneers
Tom Crowder ERFA Cowboys
Dedric Ward UFA Cowboys
Willie Ponder ERFA Giants
James Thrash UFA Redskins
Not very good. Travis Taylor is 6'1" 200lbs and he plays like a physical WR. He has physical talent (top 10 in the draft when he came out) but I don't think any wide receiver flourished in Baltimore with their QB play over the years.
I'm on the bandwagon because he's young (26) and would come relatively cheap (cheaper than porter, burress, TJ Hoshmenakjdfkjz... ect).
Anyone have an opinion or a positive/negative story on TT? I remember one game when he was having his "break out" year, he was dominating. It was 2003 against Cinnci. After that, not so much. But I think that he could be a decent fit here.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5039
dj_stouty
01-07-2005, 03:56 PM
Travis Taylor has been a big dissapointment for Baltimore the last 4 years. If we don't have the patience for Gardner, then we certainly won't have the patience for Travis.
In a press conference this week, Ozzie Newsome said he has only seen "flashes" of great play from the kid over the last 3-4 years...
SkinsKY
01-07-2005, 04:01 PM
I don't have any interest in Taylor. Bill Schroeder is one who I think has sticky hands. Not a burner by any stretch, but he always seemed to come up with the ball. Other than that maybe Andre Davis from the browns or maybe David Patten or David Givens. You know those last two are going to be great route runners.
truant
01-07-2005, 04:02 PM
Yeah, the Ravens are going to let him walk. They also let Brandon Stokely walk. The passing offense over there has been horrible, maybe if we get him away from that he can perform for us??
I don't know what Taylor's downfall is, but if he's not routinely dropping balls and giving questionable efforts, then he'll earn more patience from the fans.
whitskins
01-07-2005, 04:04 PM
This guy makes Gardner look like Jerry Rice in my opinion. I could go a long time without ever seeing another Florida WR on our team.
PA Skins Girl
01-07-2005, 04:04 PM
I dont see it as being much of an upgrade over Gardner. But you're right, I dont see anyone that really knocks my socks off from the list. David Givens might have a good up side, but he is a RFA, and I dont know what draft pick we would have to give.
Jimreaper007
01-07-2005, 04:30 PM
Travis Taylor
No
Redskinmayhem
01-07-2005, 04:50 PM
If it has to be a FA WR, my choice is PLAX.
dj_stouty
01-07-2005, 04:50 PM
I dont see it as being much of an upgrade over Gardner. But you're right, I dont see anyone that really knocks my socks off from the list. David Givens might have a good up side, but he is a RFA, and I dont know what draft pick we would have to give.
Patten is another NE WR who could be pretty decent. (And he is unrestricted)
Ramsey2Moss
01-07-2005, 05:03 PM
Out of those I would say TJ Houshmandezh from the Bengals (but he just had a killer year and if the Bengals don't resign him he will wnat alot of money) or Tai Streets from Detriot.
IowaSkinsFan
01-07-2005, 05:10 PM
Thrash isn't a free agent.
whitskins
01-07-2005, 05:19 PM
If it has to be a FA WR, my choice is PLAX.
I agree, my top choice is Plaxico as well, he can make the deep play and is big enough to make catches over the middle. He will cost us a lot but maybe he'll want to sign since he's from VA and if we sign him we can definitely trade down and save some money on the high draft picks.
portis2endzone
01-07-2005, 05:35 PM
im all for bring in plaxico but it depends how much he is going to cost. does anyone know what his contract status? is he a restricted/unrestricted FA.
lakeskin
01-07-2005, 05:39 PM
No FA WR's please. None of these guys are game changers and the one guy who you could make a case for is 32 yrs of age.
Travis Taylor is always getting hurt and hes soft. No thanks.
Jimreaper007
01-07-2005, 05:44 PM
If it has to be a FA WR, my choice is PLAX.
You want Randy Moss Jr here?
Jimreaper007
01-07-2005, 05:46 PM
Out of those I would say TJ Houshmandezh from the Bengals (but he just had a killer year and if the Bengals don't resign him he will wnat alot of money) or Tai Streets from Detriot.
TJ is a buck fifty soaking wet and Tai streets would be a genuinely bad idea (IMO)
LadyNRedskinsfan
01-07-2005, 06:04 PM
I can already see the "none" answers, but look at what's available via free agency.
Drew Haddad UFA Bills
Cedric James ERFA Patriots
David Givens RFA Patriots
Kevin Kasper RFA Patriots
David Patten UFA Patriots
Kendall Newson ERFA Dolphins
Freddie Milons RFA Ravens
Travis Taylor UFA Ravens
T.J. Houshmandzadeh UFA Bengals
CJ Jones ERFA Browns
Andra Davis RFA Browns
Andre King UFA Browns
Sean Morey ERFA Steelers
Lee Mays RFA Steelers
Plaxico Burress UFA Steelers
JJ Moses ERFA Texans
Corey Bradford UFA Texans
Marvin Harrison UFA Colts
Troy Walters UFA Colts
Cortez Hankton RFA Jaguars
Troy Edwards UFA Jaguars
Lane Danielson ERFA Titans
Todd DeVoe ERFA Titans
Romar Crenshaw ERFA Broncos
Ronald Curry ERFA Raiders
Malcolm Floyd ERFA Chargers
Bobby Shaw UFA Chargers
Eddie Drummond RFA Lions
Tai Streets UFA Lions
Kelvin Kight UFA Packers
Kelly Campbell RFA Vikings
Ryan Hoag ERFA Vikings
Aaron Hosack ERFA Vikings
Mike Furrey ERFA Rams
Dane Looker UFA Rams
Reggie Newhouse ERFA Cardinals
Nathan Poole RFA Cardinals
Alex Bannister UFA Seahawks
Cedrick Wilson RFA 49ers
Curtis Conway UFA 49ers
Antoine Burns ERFA Panthers
Karl Hankton UFA Panthers
Micah Ross UFA Panthers
Talman Gardner ERFA Saints
Derek McCoy ERFA Buccaneers
DeAndrew Rubin ERFA Buccaneers
Edell Shepherd RFA Buccaneers
Tim Brown UFA Buccaneers
Joey Galloway UFA Buccaneers
Charles Lee UFA Buccaneers
Frank Murphy UFA Buccaneers
Bill Schroeder UFA Buccaneers
Tom Crowder ERFA Cowboys
Dedric Ward UFA Cowboys
Willie Ponder ERFA Giants
James Thrash UFA Redskins
Not very good. Travis Taylor is 6'1" 200lbs and he plays like a physical WR. He has physical talent (top 10 in the draft when he came out) but I don't think any wide receiver flourished in Baltimore with their QB play over the years.
I'm on the bandwagon because he's young (26) and would come relatively cheap (cheaper than porter, burress, TJ Hoshmenakjdfkjz... ect).
Anyone have an opinion or a positive/negative story on TT? I remember one game when he was having his "break out" year, he was dominating. It was 2003 against Cinnci. After that, not so much. But I think that he could be a decent fit here.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5039
no thanks to travis taylor....he stinks, id rather keep gardner.....the guys in bold would be okay option....
SkinsCT
01-07-2005, 06:22 PM
If I was going to take anyone to be a 3rd or 4th receiver (I'm ruling out Plaxico because he is going to get paid a ton as the only proven wideout in FA) I would take Givens, maybe even Ronald Curry after what he showed this year. I would not give up a draft pick for either one of those guys though, only if they were unrestricted FA. I'll gladly take back James Thrash though, he played very well this year.
IowaSkinsFan
01-07-2005, 08:28 PM
University of Florida WR's < Michigan WR's.
Simple math.
redskin_rich
01-07-2005, 08:33 PM
University of Florida WR's < Michigan WR's.
Simple math.
Do you have confidence in Taylor Jacobs ?
IowaSkinsFan
01-07-2005, 08:35 PM
Do you have confidence in Taylor Jacobs ?
He hasn't shown much yet. If his talent was that obvious, why couldn't he supplant 50/50 from the lineup.
I hope he does well for the Skins and proves me wrong, but I won't hold my breath.
Brokenstriker
01-08-2005, 09:11 AM
Maybe one of these guys ... but I think the answer is in the draft ... couple very promising big play, big body, high velocity WR's available.
T.J. Houshmandzadeh UFA Bengals
Plaxico Burress UFA Steelers
Marvin Harrison UFA Colts
Personally I'd focus on Plax if anyone
chrisbcbu
01-08-2005, 10:18 AM
i like David Patten, he always seems to be able to get open. He doesnt have blazing speed but he can find a hole in the defense.
skinfandan
01-08-2005, 11:10 AM
Do you have confidence in Taylor Jacobs ?
IMO it is Jacobs show something or be released or traded in the offseason next year.
split3clemente
01-08-2005, 11:36 AM
someone like david patten is only good within the patriots system, thier system makes a lot of ok players look real good. Travis Taylor.....I say we pass
Cruising270
01-08-2005, 12:11 PM
Glad to see we're all on the same page with Travis Taylor. I have a good friend of mine who is a die hard Ravens fan, and he hates Travis just because of the ball drops. I'd rather keep Gardner than Taylor, besides I'm done with former Ravins recievers, remember Patrick Johnson? I think he was all speed with no hands, what ever happened to him anyway?
IndySkin
01-08-2005, 03:28 PM
They also let Brandon Stokely walk.
The Stokely deal is kind of unique. While growing up, Stokely went to all the Manning passing camps and has known Peyton for years. Also, he is in the most potent offense in the NFL. All due respect to Brandon because he has had a good year, but his success is a product of the system he is in. Take him out of that system, he's no better than #3 option on another team.
Taylor would be a mistake. Like many of you had said, he is no better than Gardner, and we would be setting ourselves up for another disappointment.
On other threads, I've seen people mention Porter's name. Is this Joey Porter from Oakland?
IndySkin
01-08-2005, 03:30 PM
University of Florida WR's < Michigan WR's.
Simple math.
Overall, I agree 100%.
redskin_rich
01-08-2005, 03:48 PM
The Stokely deal is kind of unique. While growing up, Stokely went to all the Manning passing camps and has known Peyton for years. Also, he is in the most potent offense in the NFL. All due respect to Brandon because he has had a good year, but his success is a product of the system he is in. Take him out of that system, he's no better than #3 option on another team.
Taylor would be a mistake. Like many of you had said, he is no better than Gardner, and we would be setting ourselves up for another disappointment.
On other threads, I've seen people mention Porter's name. Is this Joey Porter from Oakland?
You are right about Stokely being a product of the system, he gets covered by a nickel back or safety because of Harrison and Wayne.
Yeah, Joey Porter from Oakland is the popular name getting thrown around here on some threads.
lakeskin
01-08-2005, 03:54 PM
I hear a growing sentiment on this board for Plaxico Burress.
Heres a scouting report from espn insider.
Burress possesses a great combination of size and speed but he remains extremely inconsistent. Builds speed as goes and has the second gear to track the ball down while it's in the air. Excels at running fade routes and is fast enough to get behind most defensive backs. Has excellent height, flashes the ability to catch the ball at its highest point and can win most jump balls. Doesn't allow corners to muscle him out of routes and uses frame to shield defenders from the ball. However, Burress will drop some passes that he should catch, he disappears for stretches during games and he doesn't give the same effort on every snap. Occasionally turns upfield before securing the ball, doesn't show great focus while the ball is in the air and isn't a great red zone target, as will drop some potential touchdowns. Argues calls, gets visibly frustrated with officials at times and allows concerns to affect level of play. Burress isn't a reliable possession receiver and at times he struggles to create separation underneath but he consistently stretches teams vertically and he is a constant threat to make the big play.
Uhhh, thanks but no thanks. We have a similar guy liek this on our team. Unless you guys only feel comfartable if the mantle of 50/50 is passed on to a new guy I say we pass on ol Plaxico.
LadyNRedskinsfan
01-08-2005, 04:37 PM
I hear a growing sentiment on this board for Plaxico Burress.
Heres a scouting report from espn insider.
Burress possesses a great combination of size and speed but he remains extremely inconsistent. Builds speed as goes and has the second gear to track the ball down while it's in the air. Excels at running fade routes and is fast enough to get behind most defensive backs. Has excellent height, flashes the ability to catch the ball at its highest point and can win most jump balls. Doesn't allow corners to muscle him out of routes and uses frame to shield defenders from the ball. However, Burress will drop some passes that he should catch, he disappears for stretches during games and he doesn't give the same effort on every snap. Occasionally turns upfield before securing the ball, doesn't show great focus while the ball is in the air and isn't a great red zone target, as will drop some potential touchdowns. Argues calls, gets visibly frustrated with officials at times and allows concerns to affect level of play. Burress isn't a reliable possession receiver and at times he struggles to create separation underneath but he consistently stretches teams vertically and he is a constant threat to make the big play.
Uhhh, thanks but no thanks. We have a similar guy liek this on our team. Unless you guys only feel comfartable if the mantle of 50/50 is passed on to a new guy I say we pass on ol Plaxico.
wow, are you sure that wasnt the scouting report for gardner, lol.
lets not forget that there will be some cap casualties that we could pick from.....
IndySkin
01-08-2005, 04:41 PM
Yeah, Joey Porter from Oakland is the popular name getting thrown around here on some threads.
I don't know about that. He's alright, but not the kind of receiver that we are looking for. We need someone in the mold of Moss, Burress, Mike Williams, etc. Porter cannot fill that role, never will.
Skinz4lyfe
01-08-2005, 05:23 PM
I've been on the David Patton bandwagon for awhile (provided we can't get Edwards or Williams in the draft). I think Patton is pretty good and underrated. He'd probably come relatively cheap. Porter is not worth it!
bgforever
01-08-2005, 05:33 PM
Harrison recently inked a $60 million deal with the Colts (last month or in NOV.)
bgforever
01-08-2005, 05:40 PM
I don't know about that. He's alright, but not the kind of receiver that we are looking for. We need someone in the mold of Moss, Burress, Mike Williams, etc. Porter cannot fill that role, never will.
Then, look for Snyder to push for a deal to get Williams before anyone else.
Burress won't sign with anyone else, Moss is too everything to be in Redskins uni with Joe Gibbs as coach, and Porter got too much attention so now the bidding would make him too pricey, something both Joe and Dan know better about now. They both made BIG financial mistakes doling out too much cash on players, not worth it.
guinness4health
01-09-2005, 01:42 AM
Burress isn't a reliable possession receiver and at times he struggles to create separation underneath but he consistently stretches teams vertically and he is a constant threat to make the big play.
Uhhh, thanks but no thanks. We have a similar guy liek this on our team. Unless you guys only feel comfartable if the mantle of 50/50 is passed on to a new guy I say we pass on ol Plaxico.
the most important part of that scouting report is the fact that HE CONSISTENTLY STRETCHES TEAMS VERTICALLY AND HE IS A CONSTANT THREAT TO MAKE THE BIG PLAY....unless coles foot heals and he get his speed back we have no one on the field that can consistently stretch the field like plaxico...yes he can be inconsistent at times catching the ball but he is a threat that must be constantly accounted for...that is definitely not 50/50 gardner who cannot not out run anyone in this league....
nothing in this scouting report deters me from seeking plaxico in free agency...however i do not think he can be had for a reasonable salary...which is i think a similar circumstance with Porter (although i like his potential)....beyond that i would say that T.J. Houshmandzadeh and David Patten seem like they would be the most sensable pick-up... i think that TJ could be had for a reasonable contract and both would be considerable upgrades over gardner....
fort78
01-09-2005, 10:58 AM
Ronald Curry is a solid WR. I would love to see him in a Redskins uniform.
I also think we should go after Moss. If his attitude was even "average" he would be one of the best EVER. He definately has the physical abilities to be THE best. If he gets closer to home and a fresh start, who knows what could happen. Ramsey has the arm to get it to him downfield like Culpepper.
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