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CarMike
01-20-2005, 03:55 PM
Please answer the question in the poll.

In other words, do you think its easier for a football school, like F$U or UM to turn into basketball schools.

Or, schools like UNC and dook, that are known for their basketball tradition, to turn into football schools?

Thoughts?

smoak
01-20-2005, 03:59 PM
As a bball team can be good with the right 1 or 2 players, I say fotball to bball is easier... but i really don't know?

CarMike
01-20-2005, 04:04 PM
I tend to agree with you smoakme. Like you said, if you get lucky and recruit two, maybe 3 players, you can instantly have success in basketball.

Where as in football, you need to find a lot more players to play at a higher level. It takes a total of 22 starters and the depth becomes very important...

IMALILTEAPOT
01-20-2005, 04:13 PM
football to basketball would seem easier. fsu is doing it rite now

GibbsRules!
01-20-2005, 04:18 PM
I've got to go Football to Bball. Miami had some hoops success in the past and heck Va Tech is 2-2 in the ACC after posting a win over NC State...Go Figure?! :banghead:

CarMike
01-20-2005, 04:19 PM
football to basketball would seem easier. fsu is doing it rite now

Come on youngskin! One win over a weak forrest doesn't make them a basketball school. Lets not forget, they lost at home to Texas A&M of Corpus Christy. A horrible team. I'm not ready to call them a basketball school just yet.

;)

IMALILTEAPOT
01-20-2005, 04:22 PM
Come on youngskin! One win over a weak forrest doesn't make them a basketball school. Lets not forget, they lost at home to Texas A&M of Corpus Christy. A horrible team. I'm not ready to call them a basketball school just yet.

;)
i dont really follow college sports as much as i do pro, but i saw that game, and they look like a pretty good team. and to become a b ball school, u need to recruit good players and they did with wafer. but u know more about college sports so ok

whitskins
01-20-2005, 04:41 PM
Fielding a great college football team just seems like an absolutely monumental task to me, I'd have to say that's harder.

smoak
01-20-2005, 04:53 PM
Is Miami still playing we in bball? Dickie V keeps praising them but I haven't see them... When do we play them? Saturday?

SkinsKY
01-20-2005, 05:32 PM
It's easier to build a BBall program because it is dependant on fewer players. One great player can make your team (Dwayne Wade for example). Not so for football. You need several great players.

CarMike
01-20-2005, 05:51 PM
i dont really follow college sports as much as i do pro, but i saw that game, and they look like a pretty good team. and to become a b ball school, u need to recruit good players and they did with wafer. but u know more about college sports so ok

YoungSkin, I wasn't trying to get you to change your mind. I was just pointing out that one win doesn't make the a bb school.

Here's some info for ya....I can't remember the names of the 3 players that I read about, but they all score WAY over their average per game.

3 three guys.....

Player #1: averaged 12.2 points per game.....scored 30 points against wake.
Player #2: averaged 10.3 points per game.....scored 27 points against wake.
Player #3: averaged 7.0 points per game....scored 22 points against wake.

And for what its worth, I don't have the exact #s. I can't find the article but those numbers are pretty close. F$U was just on that night.

IMALILTEAPOT
01-20-2005, 05:56 PM
YoungSkin, I wasn't trying to get you to change your mind. I was just pointing out that one win doesn't make the a bb school.

Here's some info for ya....I can't remember the names of the 3 players that I read about, but they all score WAY over their average per game.

3 three guys.....

Player #1: averaged 12.2 points per game.....scored 30 points against wake.
Player #2: averaged 10.3 points per game.....scored 27 points against wake.
Player #3: averaged 7.0 points per game....scored 22 points against wake.

And for what its worth, I don't have the exact #s. I can't find the article but those numbers are pretty close. F$U was just on that night.
i didnt change my mind i just saw what u meant. but i have a feeling that fsu will be pretty good in the coming years

nyjunc
01-21-2005, 08:08 AM
It's easier for a FB school to turn into a big time BB school for a few reasons. First, you need to recruit alot less players than you need for FB so the chances that you strike gold w/ a few underrated recruits is better than in FB where a few players wouldn't make that big of difference. secondly, it's near impossible for a school to come out of nowhere to win it all in CFB b/c of the system. If you aren't ranked high to begint he season you have little chance of winning it all(see Auburn) while in CBB surprise teams have the opportunity every year b/c of the Tourney.

IndianBaller27
01-21-2005, 09:17 AM
I think it's easier to go from a fball school to a bball school cuz in football, you have to play 100% as a team, but in bball you could have two or three good/great players and you good be a great team. Basketball's still a team sport, but not as much as football.

IndianBaller27
01-21-2005, 09:19 AM
It's easier for a BB school to turn into a big time Fb school for a few reasons. First, you need to recruit alot less players than you need for FB so the chances that you strike gold w/ a few underrated recruits is better than in FB where a few players wouldn't make that big of difference. secondly, it's near impossible for a scholl to come out of nowhere to win it all in CFB b/c of the system. If you aren't ranked high to begint he season you have little chance of winning it all(see Auburn) while in CBB surprise teams have the opportunity every year b/c of the Tourney.
so it's the other way around.... It's easier for a FB school to turn into a BB school.

nyjunc
01-21-2005, 09:30 AM
so it's the other way around.... It's easier for a FB school to turn into a BB school.

oops, I meant it's easier for a FB school to turn into a BB school.

suppitty
01-21-2005, 09:35 AM
Like smoak said earlier, 1 or 2 players can make a basketball team competetive. You need more than 22 players to make a football team competetive. It is also a longer process to build up a football program. Most players are not good enough untill they are upper-classmen, but in baketball if you pick up a 'melo, chris paul, or marvin williams you could be set.

nyjunc
01-21-2005, 09:44 AM
It is much more difficult to crack the elite in CFb than CBB b/c in CFb it's based on reputation while in CBB it's played out on the court which is why a Gonzaga can remain a top 20 type team year in and year out while in CFB there is no way a team like Utah will remain an elite team.

RedskinRyan
01-21-2005, 01:30 PM
yeah all those points are why i think its easier for a football school to become a power in basketball than the other way around. using FSU as an example, leonard hamilton has that program on the rise. ranked ACC teams have gone into tallahassee and come out with 1 more loss than before they came in. it takes just 1 star player in basketball to lead a team all the way, but in college you need a few and good depth. syracuse had a great team as a whole, but i think people would be ignorant if they thought it wasnt purely carmelo that led the orangemen to a title. anthony was just an absolute difference maker. also, with no conference tie-ins to hte NC, any team can win it, so all the top recruits wont just go to the top schools, the talent is more spread out.

IowaSkinsFan
01-27-2005, 07:53 PM
Please answer the question in the poll.

In other words, do you think its easier for a football school, like F$U or UM to turn into basketball schools.

Or, schools like UNC and dook, that are known for their basketball tradition, to turn into football schools?

Thoughts?


Illinois traditionally keeps the best basketball talent in state, whereas we lose all of our good football talent to other schools, so I said basketball to football.

LATrueRedskin
01-27-2005, 08:18 PM
football to basketball would seem easier. fsu is doing it rite now

A friend of mine plays on FSU (Isaiah Swan). I, personally think it would be harder to go from basketball to football, because there are so many players on the field during a football game then during a basketball game. It'll be harder to find a good core of players.

ShaggySkins
01-28-2005, 08:16 AM
You only need 12 people for a basketball team, you need A LOT more for a football team.

LadyNRedskinsfan
01-28-2005, 11:59 AM
You only need 12 people for a basketball team, you need A LOT more for a football team.
yeah, thats the thing....all football teams are going have some really good athletes and half of the guys on the football team dont even play right away.

plus, all you need is 2 or 3 recruits to come in and make your basketball team better.