Official Senior Bowl Game Thread.

[hail2skins]

Discuss the game here.

[akhhorus]

What channel and when is it on?

[hail2skins]

ESPN @ 4pm in this neck of the woods.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

ooooooohhhh yea i forgot about it. thanks hailskins!

[akhhorus]

ESPN @ 4pm in this neck of the woods.

lol, well down here, we dont get your yankee Sports channels.

[IndianBaller27]

I'll be watching most of it. Maybe we'll see the next big Skin there.

[IndianBaller27]

it's starting in like 5 mins on ESPN2.. Not ESPN.

[akhhorus]

Skins fans should be looking at the following positions:
DE, WR, Oline.

[IndianBaller27]

yeah.... Pats fans shouldn't be watching.

[akhhorus]

I like that TE from Stanford: Smith. Good size and speed.

[akhhorus]

good play by reggie brown: good speed.

[akhhorus]

Baas looks to be Jansen's size.

Orton looks like a second day pick.

[IndianBaller27]

Any Marylanders there?

[akhhorus]

Campbell looks good.

Hawtthore from Wisconsin got good penetration.

Good catch by Gibson.

[IndianBaller27]

dropped it...

bad run.

ooh... looks like he's short

[akhhorus]

Campbell looks good.

Hawtthore from Wisconsin got good penetration.

Good catch by Gibson.

That Gibson, is Fred Gibson: who looks very good.

[IndianBaller27]

nice job coming back to the ball by Gibson... When is he supposed to be drafted?

[akhhorus]

nice job coming back to the ball by Gibson... When is he supposed to be drafted?

he's a second, but if he continues his good Senior Bowl; he could sneak into the late first.

[IndianBaller27]

Gibson is playing really well.... I love how he comes back to the ball... A lot of guys just sit there waiting for it to come to them. But not him.

[IndianBaller27]

holding.... Even I saw that.

[Jimreaper007]

Matt Roth looks good and this Auburn QB looks good

[IndianBaller27]

great job by Campbell there avoiding the sack... But he needs to keep his eyes downfield.

[akhhorus]

the south o-line hasnt been impressive: Campbell has had to scamble a lot.

[Jimreaper007]

the south o-line hasnt been impressive: Campbell has had to scamble a lot.


At least he (Campbell) can scramble. That seems to be the key these days. Making something happen when everything breaks down.

[IndianBaller27]

Now I know what it's like to scout players. lol

[Jimreaper007]

That CB that had the pick looks like a very big CB.

[Jimreaper007]

Clayton got destroyed. I like his skill but I want some size in at least one of our WR's

[IndianBaller27]

a pretty nice return... but he has to let that go out of bounds.

[Jimreaper007]

a pretty nice return... but he has to let that go out of bounds.


Yeah nice until dude laid some poundcake with that wicked hit.

[IndianBaller27]

ooo... almost picked off... Nice anticipation.

[akhhorus]

That CB that had the pick looks like a very big CB.

I think that was James Butler, a safety.

Good play by Travis Daniels.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

campbell looks rattled though

[Jimreaper007]

I think that was James Butler, a safety.

Good play by Travis Daniels.


Yeah, he looked really big for a CB...

[akhhorus]

Did anyone else see Spears there, he has ZERO speed.

[Jimreaper007]

Thorpe sucks...no moves just a straight line speed guy

[Jimreaper007]

Did anyone else see Spears there, he has ZERO speed.

The tackle spears for USC?

[whitskins]

Baas looks to be Jansen's size.

Orton looks like a second day pick.

Kyle Orton's fall from grace has been pretty monumental. Poor guy.

[Jimreaper007]

Orton looks shaky...he appears to have a confidence issue because he has all the tools.

[IndianBaller27]

nice blocking on that play

[akhhorus]

The tackle spears for USC?

Spears from LSU. He's huge, but he has no speed. I think he might drop out of the first. Shaun Cody is from USC.

[Jimreaper007]

Looks like Pacman has passed Rolle at CB according to Mel

[IndianBaller27]

what kinda throw was that??? He did a great job evading defenders, but the throw was horrible.

[Jimreaper007]

Spears from LSU. He's huge, but he has no speed. I think he might drop out of the first. Shaun Cody is from USC.


Gotcha...

[IndianBaller27]

When is that 6'6", 235 lbs. guy supposed to go? I forgot his name. He's a WR

[Jimreaper007]

Swanncutt with a nice sack...anybody have info on him?

[Jimreaper007]

When is that 6'6", 235 lbs. guy supposed to go? I forgot his name. He's a WR


If you're talking about Mike Williams he is no longer eligible for college athletics

[IndianBaller27]

College: Northern Colorado Height: 6-6
Position: Wide Receiver Weight: 235
Class: Senior 40-Yard: 4.53
SCOUTING REPORT
Strengths: Excellent size and height...Good speed...Very good athletic ability...Strong...Has good hands...Will jump over defensive backs to make the grab...Also a good punt returner...A playmaker who has a knack for making the big play and scoring touchdowns.
Weaknesses: Did not play against a top level of competition...May be too big to play wideout in the pros and could grow into a tight end...Isn't a great route runner and doesn't look smooth...Inconsistent and needs to show more effort...Isn't much of a threat to run after the catch.
Notes: Prospect with a lot of upside and potential...Also played basketball in college...One of the top sleeper prospects in the draft and a player on the rise.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerprofiles/wr/vincentjackson.html
He might switch to TE though. Vincent Jackson

[IndianBaller27]

If you're talking about Mike Williams he is no longer eligible for college athletics
no, I know who Mike Williams is.

[Jimreaper007]

Anyone from colorado is scary alla Westbrook

[whitskins]

Who is this Swancutt guy? He is blowing Greene up.

[Jimreaper007]

This swanncutt kid looks like Freeney on the edge...

Pure speed and leverage

[IndianBaller27]

Norv Turner........... Ugh

[IndianBaller27]

So, akh, when is Vincent Jackson supposed to go?

[IndianBaller27]

that RB was pretty fast. And Charlie Frye is in the game now.

[IndianBaller27]

George Gause.... Is he any good?

[akhhorus]

So, akh, when is Vincent Jackson supposed to go?

Second round: he's project, but the size and speed makes it too tempting.

Good sack by my fellow Cock Gause. He's huge and fast, but never lived up to the billing at SC.

[akhhorus]

George Gause.... Is he any good?

Gause once ran a 4.6 in the 40(reportedly in high school he ran a 4.4) and he's DE. He's also 6-5 260-270 lbs. He's going to be a good pick in the late second-early third for a team. He just never lived up to his hype at South Carolina.

[IndianBaller27]

damn... maybe we can trade up from our third round pick to get him... like this year's third and next year's third.

[whitskins]

Mark Clayton didn't drop a ball all week? He just shot up my draft list. Goodbye 50/50.

[Jimreaper007]

Gause once ran a 4.6 in the 40(reportedly in high school he ran a 4.4) and he's DE. He's also 6-5 260-270 lbs. He's going to be a good pick in the late second-early third for a team. He just never lived up to his hype at South Carolina.


Now there is a guy that Blache can turn into a monster if he has the desire to be good.

[akhhorus]

Both Georgia WRs are looking real good.

[IndianBaller27]

Mark Clayton didn't drop a ball all week? He just shot up my draft list. Goodbye 50/50.
lol.. yup... no more 50/50!!

[Jimreaper007]

That USC TE was dragging folks along...(270lbs)

Now that guy has Gibbs written all over him.

[akhhorus]

Now there is a guy that Blache can turn into a monster if he has the desire to be good.

Be careful: he was supposed to be Julius Peppers at SC, but he never lived up to his hype: he got lazy. But he's has an amazing body for a DE. He also played LB for a time. He'll probably stay in the third round, if he's there, the skins might want to trade up for him(or draft him with the pick you get for Gardner).

[akhhorus]

Matt Roth is rising.

[IndianBaller27]

what if no one wants Gardner? :D

[Jimreaper007]

Be careful: he was supposed to be Julius Peppers at SC, but he never lived up to his hype: he got lazy. But he's has an amazing body for a DE. He also played LB for a time. He'll probably stay in the third round, if he's there, the skins might want to trade up for him(or draft him with the pick you get for Gardner).


I would take a chance on an athlete that good...If that kid has the desire Blache can make him a Peppers

[Jimreaper007]

Yeah Roth is killing that tackle


He has a great motor and continues to get close to the QB.

[akhhorus]

I would take a chance on an athlete that good...If that kid has the desire Blache can make him a Peppers

yeah, but not in the second(if we trade down and pick up a second). He's a third/fourth guy. People will drool over his physical ability, but look at the game tapes and see someone who needs a fire lit under his butt.

[akhhorus]

Baas is 6-5 tall and 6-3 wide. wow, is he big.

[whitskins]

Alex Smith is beastly. I like this dude.

[whitskins]

Smith could have made that catch in the endzone but I think the QB waited too long to throw it. Where is he projected to go?

[akhhorus]

Smith could have made that catch in the endzone but I think the QB waited too long to throw it. Where is he projected to go?

mid-first to early second. All depends on where Heath Miller goes: Smith wont go before him.

[Jimreaper007]

Baas is 6-5 tall and 6-3 wide. wow, is he big.


Mike only worry with Baas is that he lacks athleticism...That can be a big problem on the NFL level if he simply is not fast/agile enough to neutralize defenders on counters and other pulling plays...

In order for those plays to work you need very good athletes at the NFL level. If they are saying this about him now.....that is a little scary.

Just like Mike Williams...If they were telling this kid he was slow in all the Florida schools when he entered college then that will more than likely be a bigger problem in the pros.

[whitskins]

Kyle Orton packing a FAT cheek in this featurette, hahaha.

[Jimreaper007]

they were just hyping Spears as very fast/quick.

[akhhorus]

they were just hyping Spears as very fast/quick.

what were they comparing him to....a SLINKIE? a bowl of PUDDING LEFT OUT IN THE WINTER?

The fastest Ive heard Spears running is a 4.8, but 5.1-5.3 is probably more consistant for him. He should bulk up and move to DT. Or lose 50 lbs.

[Jimreaper007]

what were they comparing him to....a SLINKIE? a bowl of PUDDING LEFT OUT IN THE WINTER?


Apparently he had a great workout this week.



That kid is rocket fast who scored just now. Runs like Dunn...very agile and good balance.

[whitskins]

I have a feeling Mark Clayton will be a Redskin next year... Just a hunch, we'll see.

[Jimreaper007]

Clayton appears to be a heck of a player and because of the rules changes you can have little recievers.

If the Redskins grabbed him that would be a nice pickup.

[akhhorus]

Clayton appears to be a heck of a player and because of the rules changes you can have little recievers.

If the Redskins grabbed him that would be a nice pickup.

Clayton is almost identical in size and speed as Coles. The question is how tough he is.

[whitskins]

Is Mel Kiper the only person who is this obsessed with Dan Cody? I haven't heard anybody hang off this dude like Kiper is. He also has Pollack as the #5 DE in his rankings now...

[akhhorus]

Is Mel Kiper the only person who is this obsessed with Dan Cody? I haven't heard anybody hang off this dude like Kiper is. He also has Pollack as the #5 DE in his rankings now...

they might be lovers: Cody is rated high, but not a top ten pick like Kiper has him. He's a tweener who seemed to disappear in the big games.

[Jimreaper007]

I'll pass on people who disappear...we had enough of those last year.

[whitskins]

Matt Roth is playing pretty large right now, there are a lot of DEs to choose from this year, there may not be any Julius Peppers but I don't think we need one that good, I think we should be able to score the right guy in the draft.

[akhhorus]

Who I was impressed by:
Matt Roth
Mike Patterson
Shaun Cody
Darren Sproles
Baas's size
Reggie Brown
Fred Gibson(except that fumble)
Alex Smith
Khalif Barnes
George Gause
Bill Swancut

[smoot]

Who I was impressed by:
Matt Roth
Mike Patterson
Shaun Cody
Darren Sproles
Baas's size
Reggie Brown
Fred Gibson(except that fumble)
Alex Smith
Khalif Barnes
George Gause
Bill Swancut
youve got to add jason campbell to that list he was dominating earlier(im not watching right now)

[akhhorus]

youve got to add jason campbell to that list he was dominating earlier(im not watching right now)

The question on him in here was how strong was his arm, and he didnt really answer that question: so I'm not putting him on the list.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

How was Clayton?

[akhhorus]

How was Clayton?

he looked good. Not great, but good.