SNYDER threatened COLES ? ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[kelly]

Irreconcilable differences
Many reasons why Coles, Redskins had messy divorce
Posted: Tuesday March 8, 2005 11:56AM; Updated: Tuesday March 8, 2005 12:52PM

It all will be over soon for Laveranues Coles.

Once he passes a routine physical Wednesday, his trade from the Washington Redskins will be consummated and he'll officially be a New York Jets wide receiver again. Given how much we've heard about Coles' frustration this past season, there shouldn't be a more delighted player in the NFL. There's no question he lucked into the best opportunity he could find after his time in D.C.

Coles will be reunited with his close friend, quarterback Chad Pennington, while playing in an offense that should be far more aggressive with new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger calling the plays. He'll play with a better supporting cast on a playoff-caliber team. He also gets to be happy again. That's the biggest boon for a player who described every week of last season as a "miserable" experience and added that the most important lesson he learned while in Washington was "trust nobody."

If you want to know how badly Coles and the Redskins needed a divorce, consider this: Redskins owner Daniel Snyder :rolleyes: threatened Coles :rolleyes: when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."

Snyder didn't return phone calls about that comment but it's easy to understand his irritation. He gave Coles a then franchise-record $13 million signing bonus two years ago. He expected Coles to be an integral part of the offense for many years. Now Snyder was watching the same player call his shots on the way out of town -- Coles eventually secured a reported $15 million in guaranteed money over the next three years while forcing the Redskins to take a huge salary cap hit -- and it stung.

But Snyder wasn't the reason Coles wanted out of Washington. Joe Gibbs was. Coles never felt comfortable with the Hall of Fame head coach. He was wary of Gibbs as far back as training camp. Coles feared that the coach (who was traveling and couldn't be reached for comment) would favor a conservative, run-first offense featuring Clinton Portis -- and that's exactly what happened.

> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jeffri_chadiha/03/08/coles/index.html

[CarMike]

GOOD GOD WHEN WILL THIS ALL END? :banghead:

[chrisbcbu]

I would have threatened him to if i was the owner, especially have he was getting his wish out of DC then sabatoged the deal.

[dj_stouty]

I'm thinking of jumping on the 3pm train from Union Station in DC to Grand Central Station in NYC to "have a talk" with Coles...

Anyone want to come? ;)

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

this is getting old Kelly, I don't know how the admins think of this. All I see is the same negative talk over and over again.

[smoak]

Threatened!? I would have stomped on his toe.

Drop dead Coles (that is not a literal expression)

[BurgundyNGold]

Oh, my. Poor, poor LC. Him have a boo-boo. But that's OK, little baby, don't you cry. Mommy make it all better.

@ss.

[dj_stouty]

this is getting old Kelly, I don't know how the admins think of this. All I see is the same negative talk over and over again.

Don't blame Kelly for delivering the bad news...it would have found its way over here somehow...

[chrisbcbu]

Don't blame Kelly for delivering the bad news...it would have found its way over here somehow...

Agrd!

[Spence]

What's the big deal? Threatening a troublesome player with benching is pretty commonplace in football and just about every other team sport--at the high school, college, and pro levels. I probably would have done the same thing.

[PennSkinsFan]

GOOD GOD WHEN WILL THIS ALL END? :banghead:

I agree. I woudl have deleivered the same kind of threat, aceept a trade or have fun sitting and watching. Coles back stabbed the Redskisn and the fanbase here. You all can paint a pretty picture of Coles all you want, but the fact is, he is a cry baby and unprofessional. Joe Gibbs, a proven winner, a three time Superbowl Champ Coach comes to town, so Coles has apprehension and wants out? What about concentrating on learning your new Coach, learning the new system, and playing with enthusiasm? Just because a caoch changes you want out of your contract??????? In the real world, when we have changes in Boss, we have the option of quitting, but not being traded. NO, we SUCK IT UP, and get on the page with the new game plan. Man, this riles me up! This is pure BS from Coles. Wasn't happy with the system? Screw yourself Coles!

[whitskins]

Coles makes me sick, I would have threatened him too with the same thing if I were Snyder. Yet, somehow, Coles is the victim. If Snyder threatened to behave the same way with Coles as Billichek did with his head case WR in Terry Glenn, then I'm all for it.

I need to go take a walk because all this Coles talk really makes me want to throw up.

[kelly]

I'm thinking of jumping on the 3pm train from Union Station in DC to Grand Central Station in NYC to "have a talk" with Coles...

Anyone want to come? ;)
dj_stouty : GREAT idea ! ! !
you're comin' to MY hometown ! !
hey, be sure to wear your REDSKINS jersey, this way i can find you :rolleyes:

p.s. i'll have some of my buddies with me so we will give you & your buddies a real nice welcome ~ ~

[Farbod]

I love Danny Boy, I dont know why some skins fans dont... He cant control these greedy sobs after he signs them...

Good job Dan, if they act like greedy little bastards, threaten them with whatever it takes... We are right behind you...

Oh and if anyone ever happens to see LC, please stomp on that bastard's toe for me! :devil2:

[hockeygoalie29]

If I were Snyder I'd have taken it a step further and threatened to keep him on the bench the next 3 years unless he agreed not only to a trade but giving back the majority of that signing bonus that he did not earn.

[Seebs]

Threatened!? I would have stomped on his toe.



ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CarMike]

this is getting old Kelly, I don't know how the admins think of this. All I see is the same negative talk over and over again.

Trust us, its been noticed....

[kelly]

Trust us, its been noticed....
pls note, I did NOT WRITE/AUTHOR these articles, hey, i'm just SHARING :rolleyes:
cheers ~ ~ ~
:beer:

[bgforever]

No Matter L.C.

OUR MAN has passed his physical and will be formerly introduced Tommorow.

The Balcony is closed.

Oh and LC is very, very smart. He is appealing to the media again, this time to beat the HATE the Redskins drum, but if you look REAL hard, LC will not go to REPUTABBLE sources, such as NFL Network "LIVE" in person to the world and say something. This is not the sign of a respectable football player, but pure btich. Dan Snyder pays you a** and has the right to SIT you and NOT play you whether you are healthy or not. It's his right as an owner, taxpayer and constitution of the US, fool. He's looking out for his investment, because you can throw games or contribute to their demise! Be for real for once punk.

[Jimreaper007]

Good thing the Jets feature the run n shoot offense...otherwise LC might have to put up with a running game.

:D

[CNYSkinFan]

Coles is trouble and I am glad to be rid of him. This is the kind of cancer I was talking about earlier. The Redskins needed to get rid of him and they did. It is too bad we are looking at 2007 before Taylor can take his head off in the regular season. Maybe we can schedule a pre-season game.

First Springs can step on his toe, then Lavar can put a forearm in his throat. Then when he jumps for a poorly thrown ball by Pennington Taylor can lay him out and immeidiately go into the stands and have sex with his girlfriend.

[redwolf1218]

i thought it was a very interesting artical to read. no sense in shooting the messenger. as more details unfold, i am amazed at what a complete train wreck this whole deal with Coles has been.

[RedskinsVision]

poor wittle baby.. at least LC outta be happy Dan didn't call him a "she" in comparison to Glenn.

Dan's at least nice enough to have sent him a flatscreen TV instead of shipping him off to Siberia which he deserves.

[redwolf1218]

poor wittle baby.. at least LC outta be happy Dan didn't call him a "she" in comparison to Glenn.

Dan's at least nice enough to have sent him a flatscreen TV instead of shipping him off to Siberia which he deserves.
as if he could not afford his own flat screen after he soaked Dan for all those millions. he is crazy like a fox. good riddance.

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

Coles is trouble and I am glad to be rid of him. This is the kind of cancer I was talking about earlier. The Redskins needed to get rid of him and they did. It is too bad we are looking at 2007 before Taylor can take his head off in the regular season. Maybe we can schedule a pre-season game.

First Springs can step on his toe, then Lavar can put a forearm in his throat. Then when he jumps for a poorly thrown ball by Pennington Taylor can lay him out and immeidiately go into the stands and have sex with his girlfriend.
HELL....Id pay good pre-season money to see that scenario play out. LMAO

[IowaSkinsFan]

The nerve of Daniel Snyder....paying a guy $13 million up front and expecting him to be happy and perform....jeebus (as Tom would say).

[Keino]

What's the big deal? Threatening a troublesome player with benching is pretty commonplace in football and just about every other team sport--at the high school, college, and pro levels. I probably would have done the same thing.


First I'd like to say, I believe every word of this article.

Secondly, Thats exactly what he should've done, only followed through on the threat. Again, we had the leverage. We gave it away and subsequently got bent over in the process. Desperate acts in a situation where it wasn't warrented.....

[bgforever]

Good thing the Jets feature the run n shoot offense...otherwise LC might have to put up with a running game.

:D

After the year Curtis Martin had, and Moss having 1/2 of Coles catches (Moss will get about 60-75, while Patten will get 60-65, New WR about the same as Patten and Jacobs / Thrash about 40-45 each if that), clearly tells me Cole is in for BIG surprise. He's so confused :)

[Jimreaper007]

Exactly the point....Coles went from a bad to medium running team (us) to a good running team (the Jets) so if he's expecting an air it out offense in Jet-Land he's been firing up the chronic.

[smoak]

Exactly the point....Coles went from a bad to medium running team (us) to a good running team (the Jets) so if he's expecting an air it out offense in Jet-Land he's been firing up the chronic.

Lets be honest though. Coles may have been unhappy with the offense, but there is not a bone in his body (including the toe) that didn't do this for the money.

[GolfFreak]

That's awesome - glad Snyder stepped up and someone told Coles to go to hell.

[bgforever]

ONE PLAYER SHOULD BE REALLY UPSET THAT A TEAM DIDN'T GIVE HIM HIS OFFER - MARCUS POLLARD (COLTS)

AND ONE PLAYER DIDN'T MOUTH OFF LIKE HE USUALLY DOES, UPON GOING TO THE RA-DUHS (MOSS).


Yet dumkauf, "Quick Tongue" Coles has more than made up for both by taking someone else's chorus line and dancing with. Kind of reminds me of the movie "Chicago" where all the reporters were being pupperteered, for the lawyer to get the effect he wanted on the masses and newspapers. Coles, JG believes in Christ. (I am a big sinner Coles, but this much I know from the words JG studied - "No weapon formed against me, shall prosper"). JG is praying for you, holds no malice and every dart you throw at anyone in the Redskins organization, you throw at him (they are one)

[Skinzaholic]

Unfortunately - we gave him all of that money as well. Im not sure I will ever get over this whole scenario.

[kelly]

i thought it was a very interesting artical to read. no sense in shooting the messenger. as more details unfold, i am amazed at what a complete train wreck this whole deal with Coles has been.
~ ~ ~ " . . . no sense in shooting the messenger. . . "
reaaaaaalllllllllly :rolleyes:

p.s. * * * REMEMBER : COLES'S MEDICAL PHYSICAL IS
TOMORROW ( WED. 3/9/05 )
GAAAUUUDDD, i hope our ( the jets ) doctor(s) FLUNK him &
the trade does NOT go through.
yes, i know that will NOT happen.
he'll " PASS " THE PHYSICAL & the trade will become FINAL/COMPLETED but,
i'm PRAYIN' :spy:

[BurgundyNGold]

Unfortunately - we gave him all of that money as well. Im not sure I will ever get over this whole scenario.
I, for one, am already over it. I'm sure Danny has learned his lesson too.

[kelly]

hey , did you guys see this in the times :

" Well, Laveranues "the Toe" Coles is rejoining the Jets -- after a two-year trial separation. Wonder if that makes him eligible for the Comeback Player of the Year Award....

This is the world Joe Gibbs has walked back into. A world in which a player can be a "core Redskin" one day and a New York Giant the next -- all because of a few lousy dollars. A world in which another "core Redskin" can catch 90 passes, not be particularly pleased about it, and gripe his way into a trade to the New York Jets (for whom he was previously a "core Jet" before jumping to the Redskins). It's enough to make you wonder if the whole business isn't, well, rotten to the core. "

~ ~ ~ seriously, just give coach gibbs some time.
he'll turn things around & you guys will be BACK in the super bowl ;)
:banghead:

[dj_stouty]

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[MoeRedskins]

I will have to side with Danny on this one, nice way to handle it. LC is a distant memory and I hope everybody will do something foul to their Coles jerseys tonight, I nkow I will.

[redwolf1218]

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isnt that one toe bone supposed to be lined up in front of that other foot bone? that hurts just to look at it.

[PA Skins Girl]

If this is true, then Coles' attitude and toe are much much worse than we know. Why would Snyder be so hell bent on making this trade happen? Is it possible we wanted to dump Coles more than he wanted out of town? Hmmm...

[C-7]

Dont have a link, but just heard on the radio that now that the trade has been made official Coles es "opening up."

he said something like "How can you be happy when a pass-first offense changes to a run-first offense? This is not what I signed up for."


What a selfish brat!


He also accused Gibbs of running a dictatorship. Said "There's only so much of this that one persona can take."


Man, I (WE) thought Coles was a real team player and a smart guy. Damn, he sure let us down. Just another selfish player hungry for the spotlight. The Jets should have maybe thought twice about getting him. Here is a player who, first, might be seriously injured, and second, cares more about his stats than about the team.

[dj_stouty]

isnt that one toe bone supposed to be lined up in front of that other foot bone? that hurts just to look at it.

Yes...its supposed to. This is an x-ray of a "turf toe". Very painfull...

[PA Skins Girl]

http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/187742.jpg + http://www.wheelessonline.com/images/i1/mtpd4a.jpg = http://images.nfl.com/images/players/60x80/1254.jpg
That is too freakin' funny.

[PennSkinsFan]

Dont have a link, but just heard on the radio that now that the trade has been made official Coles es "opening up."

he said something like "How can you be happy when a pass-first offense changes to a run-first offense? This is not what I signed up for."


What a selfish brat!


He also accused Gibbs of running a dictatorship. Said "There's only so much of this that one persona can take."


Man, I (WE) thought Coles was a real team player and a smart guy. Damn, he sure let us down. Just another selfish player hungry for the spotlight. The Jets should have maybe thought twice about getting him. Here is a player who, first, might be seriously injured, and second, cares more about his stats than about the team.

and that is my whole point. First and foremost, if a new system is in place, quality, classy players make the adjustments and work to thrive in it, not get peeved and come with an attitude that you just don't fit. If you are a real PRO, you can and would fit.

Second, Gibbs dictatorship. Well, as free ahnded as Norv and Spurrier were, this is music to me years!

[redskin_rich]

I just heard about this on WTEM and I had to laugh. Okay LC, you get one of the highest salaries at your position and cry you don't want to be here anymore and now your hurt because you got scolded by the owner. :rolleyes:
Just be a man and shut up.

[PA Skins Girl]

Man, this guy is gonna go down as one of the most hated former Skins out there. He might surpass Deion.

[C-7]

Man, this guy is gonna go down as one of the most hated former Skins out there. He might surpass Deion.





:lol1:

[RedskinsDave]

If Snyder really said that then I love it. Good for him.

[COUNCILMAN]

Are you frikken kidding me! WHAT???

You say you want to pay me $9 million dollars for the next 2 years and what you want me to do is sit down and watch football on a new flat screen t.v.?

WHERE IN THE HELL DO I SIGN?

[redwolf1218]

Well if the first was Deon, then this guy is Leon.

[SkinsNut]

Are you frikken kidding me! WHAT???

You say you want to pay me $9 million dollars for the next 2 years and what you want me to do is sit down and watch football on a new flat screen t.v.?

WHERE IN THE HELL DO I SIGN?

Lets get in line. I'm all for it. :Peace:

[PA Skins Girl]

Well if the first was Deon, then this guy is Leon.
Perfect. From now on, he's Leon.

[chad101]

this is getting old Kelly, I don't know how the admins think of this. All I see is the same negative talk over and over again.


Fair and balanced.

[chad101]

Exactly the point....Coles went from a bad to medium running team (us) to a good running team (the Jets) so if he's expecting an air it out offense in Jet-Land he's been firing up the chronic.


New Offensive coordinator. You my want to check his resume if you think the Jets won't throw more.

Also if they choose, they are a top running team.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

After the year Curtis Martin had, and Moss having 1/2 of Coles catches (Moss will get about 60-75, while Patten will get 60-65, New WR about the same as Patten and Jacobs / Thrash about 40-45 each if that), clearly tells me Cole is in for BIG surprise. He's so confused :)
EXACTLY. they may have a new coordinator, but with curtis martin, it is still going to be a run oriented team. eddie george and chris brown sure had their share of carries over the years under heimerdinger.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/rachay/taylorcoles.gif

[chad101]

EXACTLY. they may have a new coordinator, but with curtis martin, it is still going to be a run oriented team. eddie george and chris brown sure had their share of carries over the years under heimerdinger.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/rachay/taylorcoles.gif

And Mason and company more than their fair share of catches.
In reality the Jets best off-season move was the new OC.

[Keino]

Fair and balanced.

This ain't fox.

[D-Ruck #8]

I love Danny Boy, I dont know why some skins fans dont... He cant control these greedy sobs after he signs them...

Good job Dan, if they act like greedy little bastards, threaten them with whatever it takes... We are right behind you...

Oh and if anyone ever happens to see LC, please stomp on that bastard's toe for me! :devil2:

I know, alot of people are against him, but I really have always liked him as our owner.

[akhhorus]

I cant blame Snyder at all. Coles was a whiny little B****.

[bgforever]

isnt that one toe bone supposed to be lined up in front of that other foot bone? that hurts just to look at it.

TOE BE OR NOT TOE BE THAT IS THE QUESTION!

Whether it is nobler to seek the knife of a thousand sheeths and risk the Oh No of the high hopes of thine penthouse overlooking "Park Central",

or to accept the pitfalls of solitude till' Sunday's reap of loud voices from afar,
(loudly) cheering and chanting, always ranting, urging on for more

(silence) and until that final resting day in the Famed Hall,

should I be happy for the happy dagger upon thine toe,
Or should I take thine flight, whisked away one night to
fade and hear, "We told you so"

[CNYSkinFan]

TOE BE OR NOT TOE BE THAT IS THE QUESTION!

Whether it is nobler to seek the knife of a thousand sheeths and risk the Oh No of the high hopes of thine penthouse overlooking "Park Central",

or to accept the pitfalls of solitude till' Sunday's reap of loud voices from afar,
(loudly) cheering and chanting, always ranting, urging on for more

(silence) and until that final resting day in the Famed Hall,

should I be happy for the happy dagger upon thine toe,
Or should I take thine flight, whisked away one night to
fade and hear, "We told you so"

YES!!!!! Funniest post yet!!!!! :lol1:

[BIGSEF3]

I cant blame Snyder at all. Coles was a whiny little B****.

i found this comment extremely amusing:


"people say we're [gardner and coles] leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for."


i just want to know what part of coles contract stated the offense would be, and remain "pass-oriented."

if we're going to talk about what we "signed up for," i'd say the redskins didnt sign up for overpaying a crippled, whining receiver who thinks he knows more than a hall of fame coach who has won 3 superbowls, who would cause us to trade him 2 years into his contract and have nearly 10 million dollars in dead cap money in our 2005 season.

tell me, mr. coles, in what part of your contract did WE sign up for THAT?

[BurgundyNGold]

i found this comment extremely amusing:


"people say we're [gardner and coles] leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for."


i just want to know what part of coles contract stated the offense would be, and remain "pass-oriented."

if we're going to talk about what we "signed up for," i'd say the redskins didnt sign up for overpaying a crippled, whining receiver who thinks he knows more than a hall of fame coach who has won 3 superbowls, who would cause us to trade him 2 years into his contract and have nearly 10 million dollars in dead cap money in our 2005 season.

tell me, mr. coles, in what part of your contract did WE sign up for THAT?
BIGSEF, this is the best post you have ever made. 100% correct.

[akhhorus]

i found this comment extremely amusing:


"people say we're [gardner and coles] leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for."


i just want to know what part of coles contract stated the offense would be, and remain "pass-oriented."

if we're going to talk about what we "signed up for," i'd say the redskins didnt sign up for overpaying a crippled, whining receiver who thinks he knows more than a hall of fame coach who has won 3 superbowls, who would cause us to trade him 2 years into his contract and have nearly 10 million dollars in dead cap money in our 2005 season.

tell me, mr. coles, in what part of your contract did WE sign up for THAT?


The Skies darken, water runs red, locusts descent upon the land----BIGSEF made a great comment....

[ConradCountry]

At a boy Snyder, he should have taken a swing at him to.

[LATrueRedskin]

I was threatened tons of times playing organized sports throughout the years. It happens. Coles is gone, and he can talk all he wants. He's in the AFC now. I couldn't care less about the Jets (and the Raiders).

[akhhorus]

"He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."

This line made me laugh and made me glad Snyder is our owner. What a set of huevos on him. Anyone remember "Super Troopers"?

"Get a set gloves...you're my cleaning lady now Farva"

[dj_stouty]

i found this comment extremely amusing:


"people say we're [gardner and coles] leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for."


It looks like you may have found the one and only person who misses not having Steve Spurrier as Head Coach of the Skins...

As smart as I thought coles used to be...he sure sounds dumb if he PREFERED the Chuck-n-Duck...

[PA Skins Girl]

The funny thing is, Snyder's run/pass ratio was not much different than Gibbs:

2003: 421 rushing attempts/527 passing attempts = 55.6% passing

2004: 471 rushing attempt/514 passing attempts = 52.2% passing

So, 13 less pass attempts = less than 1 per game.

Also, Coles had 90 catches in Gibbs' offense and only 82 in Spurriers offense, so the ball was going to him just as much. The difference was Gibbs ran short passing routes and Spurrier ran longer ones.

Part (or maybe all) of the reason Gibbs ran those stupid sideline screens, IMO, is that Coles can no longer get open downfield.

[bgforever]

The funny thing is, Snyder's run/pass ratio was not much different than Gibbs:

2003: 421 rushing attempts/527 passing attempts = 55.6% passing

2004: 471 rushing attempt/514 passing attempts = 52.2% passing

So, 13 less pass attempts = less than 1 per game.

Also, Coles had 90 catches in Gibbs' offense and only 82 in Spurriers offense, so the ball was going to him just as much. The difference was Gibbs ran short passing routes and Spurrier ran longer ones.

Part (or maybe all) of the reason Gibbs ran those stupid sideline screens, IMO, is that Coles can no longer get open downfield.


Yep and as someone said, I believe JimReaper, it was all about the money. You simply don't worry about stats when you really, really want to win. Marvin Harrision, restructed, gave up 15% or more of his plays to others on offense and they rode it all the way to the Hall of Fame! Patten immediately discredited Cole's approach with a simple truth, not even needed to point a finger, because the truth speaks for itself, and Randy Thomas undressed Coles for who he was. Its the stats to get more money. He'll be a Raider by 2008.

[Keino]

BIGSEF........I must give you props for that post.

[smoak]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. He'll never admit, but this has nothing to do with how much or where we threw. Coles saw an opportunity to b*tch his way into getting another pay day. I hope Taylor stole his girl and he brings to the next Redskins/Jets game.

[bgforever]

It looks like you may have found the one and only person who misses not having Steve Spurrier as Head Coach of the Skins...

As smart as I thought coles used to be...he sure sounds dumb if he PREFERED the Chuck-n-Duck...

Yeah kind of makes you wonder, doesnt' it sound like a "conscientous objector" in the Army :) .

[2Cooley]

Exactly the point....Coles went from a bad to medium running team (us) to a good running team (the Jets) so if he's expecting an air it out offense in Jet-Land he's been firing up the chronic.

they have a new o coordinatior they are going to air it out a lot

[BurgundyNGold]

I hope Taylor stole his girl and he brings to the next Redskins/Jets game.
:lol1:
Just the very fact that ST would do that is amusing. It's like he can't stop tormenting receivers whether on or off the field -- even if they're on his team! ST has probably closed that deal anyway with his arrest later that night and all. Girls love an element of excitement and/or danger.

Loveheranus "The Toe" Coles won't even have what will ultimately turn out to be necessary surgery. There's no element of danger there. Maybe he could get clipped for ripping off some sweaters at Dillard's again!

[IMALILTEAPOT]

that was painful to read, man. im really hating him rite now

[nicefellow31]

It appears LC has to trash everyone on his way out the door. Bobby Bowden at FSU, Herman Edwards and the Jets, and know the Skins. I don't know why these guys can't remember that they are football players and that pass catching in just part of their job. If a play calls for you to block, block. If you are a decoy, be a decoy. Goodbye LC we hardly knew ya.

[BIGSEF3]

most people know here i have never been a fan of coles.

but alot of you were HUGE fans of his, for his playing hurt, being tough, taking hits, having "heart," etc.

what coles has done is alienate THOUSANDS of fans. heck, i am the person who has HATED the coles-moss trade from day1. it just didnt make sense. but the second i read this post, he made a FAN of this trade out of me. i would take whatever cap hit it took to get that sorry SOB off my team. i regret ever questioning joe gibbs and daniel snyder for "letting coles go so easily, without a fight."

They could have gone public and said what a punk coles was, to "justify" themselves to thousands of confused fans. But they didn't. They kept their mouths shut and didn't badmouth coles when they had the chance. They knew if they stayed quite, coles would hang himself, and he did.

can one of you graphic arts guys make a COLES SUCKS sign? :jetsuk:

[dj_stouty]

It appears LC has to trash everyone on his way out the door. Bobby Bowden at FSU, Herman Edwards and the Jets, and know the Skins.

Anytime someone has a problem with everyone around them...it is usually that person who actually has the problem.

Unless we meet in the Super Bowl, we won't play the Jets until 2007. But hey...by that time, Coles will have alienated himself from the Jets by then...

[kelly]

Fair and balanced.
yup ;)
:beer:

[BurgundyNGold]

most people know here i have never been a fan of coles.

but alot of you were HUGE fans of his, for his playing hurt, being tough, taking hits, having "heart," etc.

what coles has done is alienate THOUSANDS of fans. heck, i am the person who has HATED the coles-moss trade from day1. it just didnt make sense. but the second i read this post, he made a FAN of this trade out of me. i would take whatever cap hit it took to get that sorry SOB off my team. i regret ever questioning joe gibbs and daniel snyder for "letting coles go so easily, without a fight."

They could have gone public and said what a punk coles was, to "justify" themselves to thousands of confused fans. But they didn't. They kept their mouths shut and didn't badmouth coles when they had the chance. They knew if they stayed quite, coles would hang himself, and he did.

can one of you graphic arts guys make a COLES SUCKS sign? :jetsuk:
I don't know how to post images in my signature, so just check my public profile.

[BIGSEF3]

Anytime someone has a problem with everyone around them...it is usually that person who actually has the problem.

Unless we meet in the Super Bowl, we won't play the Jets until 2007. But hey...by that time, Coles will have alienated himself from the Jets by then...

maybe he will be with the broncos by that time, and we can deal with chump and coles at one time.

nothing would make me happier than to deny both of them superbowl rings.

[Dexter72]

New Offensive coordinator. You my want to check his resume if you think the Jets won't throw more.

Here is the 5 year resume (w/ the Titans) for your new pass happy OC:

2000
462 pass 46%
546 run 54%

2001
515 pass 53%
468 run 47%

2002
500 pass 49%
511 run 51%

2003
502 pass 51%
486 run 49%

2004
589 pass 58%
420 run 42%

5 YEAR TOTAL 4999 plays
2568 pass 51%
2431 run 49%

If you take out the games the Titans were blown out of this year, he runs more than he throws. As PSG Posted, Gibbs threw 52% of the time. Hey LC: Enjoy your new pass happy offense!

[C-7]

Can someone explain to me what did Snyder mean when he said he would turn Coles into another Terry Glenn?

What exactly happened to Glenn?

[chrisbcbu]

Can someone explain to me what did Snyder mean when he said he would turn Coles into another Terry Glenn?

What exactly happened to Glenn?

Guess you didnt read the whole thing!

Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching.

[Jimreaper007]

If snyder truly said that then good....he should have sent two guys over to his place with lead pipes to beat the bonus out of him.

[C-7]

Coles is a bum! I hope he sucks in Ny and I hope his toe never heals. The more I hear his opinions on the radio the more I hate him.

[BurgundyNGold]

Coles is a bum! I hope he sucks in Ny and I hope his toe never heals. The more I hear his opinions on the radio the more I hate him.
What do you really think C-7? He is a punk, though.

[Davey]

It's funny that Coles says he didn't feel respected as a player. How many players who have played for Gibbs, either now or before, have had any complaints about him? I can't think of anyone except Coles and Gardner. And how many players are way more excited about next season than a player from a 6-10 team should be?

[whitskins]

Unless we meet in the Super Bowl, we won't play the Jets until 2007. But hey...by that time, Coles will have alienated himself from the Jets by then...

Correction DJ, Coles will be RETIRED by 2007.

Coles made the only move he could, force a trade so he could get his entire signing bonus PLUS more guaranteed money from another team. ToeVerneus knows he'll be out of the league in two years.

Have fun Jets.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

ToeVerneus
toeverneus, hahahaha

[whitskins]

toeverneus, hahahaha

Yeah, I'm going to call him that now since I probably won't be aloud to call him a @!*@(@#(*@!(*#&@(*@#&((*@#ing, son of a !)@()#()$*(#!))!@)*&$!(*@$...

[BurgundyNGold]

Yeah, I'm going to call him that now since I probably won't be aloud to call him a @!*@(@#(*@!(*#&@(*@#&((*@#ing, son of a !)@()#()$*(#!))!@)*&$!(*@$...
I think I'm just going to call him [CENSORED BY SPENCE]

[C-7]

Coles made the only move he could, force a trade so he could get his entire signing bonus PLUS more guaranteed money from another team. ToeVerneus knows he'll be out of the league in two years.




Haven't thought about it that way... :rolleyes:

[BIGSEF3]

Guess you didnt read the whole thing!
Thats true, but snyder's comment is funnier if glenn had gotten a pair of cement shoes.

[colkurtz]

I'm glad I never bought his jersey (got Cooley instead). Coles is dead to me now.

In retropect, the biggest malcontent and cry baby since Jeff George. If he ever comes to FedEX field he'll be booed for 5 minutes when he comes on the field.

[BurgundyNGold]

I'm glad I never bought his jersey (got Cooley instead). Coles is dead to me now.

In retropect, the biggest malcontent and cry baby since Jeff George. If he ever comes to FedEX field he'll be booed for 5 minutes when he comes on the field.
I know it was you, Toevernius -- you broke my heart -- you broke my heart!

[whitskins]

I know it was you, Toevernius -- you broke my heart -- you broke my heart!

I wouldn't even bother with that scene, I'd skip right to the finale on the fishing boat :)

[rskinsfan10]

pls note, I did NOT WRITE/AUTHOR these articles, hey, i'm just SHARING :rolleyes:
cheers ~ ~ ~
:beer:

Yeah, you love to share the ones that paint us negatively.

Fair and balanced would be posting a negative Jets article with every Redskins one that you post.

It's gotten real old, and that occured along time ago.

[akhhorus]

Yeah, you love to share the ones that paint us negatively.

Fair and balanced would be posting a negative Jets article with every Redskins one that you post.

It's gotten real old, and that occured along time ago.

yeah, its that funny how he only posted threads that are anti-Skins one and he's whining about posts being "fair and balanced"...hmmm

[BurgundyNGold]

I wouldn't even bother with that scene, I'd skip right to the finale on the fishing boat :)
Toevernius Brasi sleeps with the fishes (Skipping back to I).

[kelly]

Yeah, you love to share the ones that paint us negatively.

Fair and balanced would be posting a negative Jets article with every Redskins one that you post.

It's gotten real old, and that occured along time ago.

" . . . Fair and balanced would be posting a negative Jets article with every Redskins one that you post. "

are you kiddin' me ? ? ?
i'm the one PRAYING l.coles FLUNKS his physical ! ! !
seriously,
we're giving you guys a pretty good player for someone you were MOST probably going to cut/release ! ! ! !
are you kiddin' me ? ? ?
we could have signed l.coles for NOTHING after you guys released/cut him ! ! ! :banghead:

HONEST TO GAAAAD :banghead:

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

That Whiney Bastard

For the money he was making I would have washed Gibbs car every second day. Every day if he said please. The fact that he is getting a ton of loot galls me. If he can't have any patience while Gibbs goes through a transition year while making a carload of cash just demonstrates his characater. We should have known - be bitched when he left NY and he's bitching now. God, this is now a case of addition by subtraction. Thank goodness a view vets made it known to Joe that keeping him on the team was allowing a cancer to become malignant. Haul your ass outta here, fool.

[rskinsfan10]

" . . . Fair and balanced would be posting a negative Jets article with every Redskins one that you post. "

are you kiddin' me ? ? ?
i'm the one PRAYING l.coles FLUNKS his physical ! ! !
seriously,
we're giving you guys a pretty good player for someone you were MOST probably going to cut/release ! ! ! !
are you kiddin' me ? ? ?
we could have signed l.coles for NOTHING after you guys released/cut him ! ! ! :banghead:

HONEST TO GAAAAD :banghead:

If he was being released, it would have happened, to which we would have actually saved money on our cap this year. He said he would have given back money for that release, yet IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!! Think about it.

Bang your head on that.

[kelly]

yeah, its that funny how he only posted threads that are anti-Skins one and he's whining about posts being "fair and balanced"...hmmm

" . . . only posted threads that are anti-Skins . . . "
PLS NOTE :
> http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/search.php?searchid=83829

" whining about posts being "fair and balanced"
~ ~ ~ WRONG AGAIN ! !
> Quote:
Originally Posted by chad101
Fair and balanced.

yup
> http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=23093&page=6&pp=15

cheers ~ ~ ~

[War Hogg]

Irreconcilable differences
Many reasons why Coles, Redskins had messy divorce
Posted: Tuesday March 8, 2005 11:56AM; Updated: Tuesday March 8, 2005 12:52PM

It all will be over soon for Laveranues Coles.

Once he passes a routine physical Wednesday, his trade from the Washington Redskins will be consummated and he'll officially be a New York Jets wide receiver again. Given how much we've heard about Coles' frustration this past season, there shouldn't be a more delighted player in the NFL. There's no question he lucked into the best opportunity he could find after his time in D.C.

Coles will be reunited with his close friend, quarterback Chad Pennington, while playing in an offense that should be far more aggressive with new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger calling the plays. He'll play with a better supporting cast on a playoff-caliber team. He also gets to be happy again. That's the biggest boon for a player who described every week of last season as a "miserable" experience and added that the most important lesson he learned while in Washington was "trust nobody."

If you want to know how badly Coles and the Redskins needed a divorce, consider this: Redskins owner Daniel Snyder :rolleyes: threatened Coles :rolleyes: when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."

Snyder didn't return phone calls about that comment but it's easy to understand his irritation. He gave Coles a then franchise-record $13 million signing bonus two years ago. He expected Coles to be an integral part of the offense for many years. Now Snyder was watching the same player call his shots on the way out of town -- Coles eventually secured a reported $15 million in guaranteed money over the next three years while forcing the Redskins to take a huge salary cap hit -- and it stung.

But Snyder wasn't the reason Coles wanted out of Washington. Joe Gibbs was. Coles never felt comfortable with the Hall of Fame head coach. He was wary of Gibbs as far back as training camp. Coles feared that the coach (who was traveling and couldn't be reached for comment) would favor a conservative, run-first offense featuring Clinton Portis -- and that's exactly what happened.

> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jeffri_chadiha/03/08/coles/index.html

Wow, Snyder let his drop....lol

[kelly]

If he was being released, it would have happened, to which we would have actually saved money on our cap this year. He said he would have given back money for that release, yet IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!! Think about it.

Bang your head on that.

HONEST TO GAAAAAD ! ! !
of course it did NOT happen ! !
the jets fo ( morons ) came & offered you guys s.moss ! ! !
it did NOT happen because gibbs saw a chance to get SOMETHING/a pretty good player for l.coles ! ! !
IF YOU GUYS HAD LET HOM GO/RELEASE HIM/CUT HIM you would have
received/gotten -------> NOTHIN ! ! !
coach gibbs was able to salvage something out of the " coles " situation ! !
as far as the salary cap issue goes, you just " put it off " until the future.the 'skins are NOT THE ONLY TEAM IN THE NFL that does that.
cheers ~ ~ ~
:beer:

[Axegrinder]

Excuse me folks,but it's not like Moss is washed up.
Give him a chance before you say that we've been taken.
We may be lucky that he's here.

[kelly]

Excuse me folks,but it's not like Moss is washed up.
Give him a chance before you say that we've been taken.
We may be lucky that he's here.

EXACTLY ! ! !
:banghead:

[BurgundyNGold]

Excuse me folks,but it's not like Moss is washed up.
Give him a chance before you say that we've been taken.
We may be lucky that he's here.
At this point, Moss certainly can't be considered a "has been". More like Gardner, a "never was". But, he's still young so it could very well happen for him here in DC.

[whitskins]

At this point, Moss certainly can't be considered a "has been". More like Gardner, a "never was". But, he's still young so it could very well happen for him here in DC.

Comparing Moss and Gardner makes no sense in my opinion. How is Moss a "never was"?

David Terrell is the definition of a never was in my opinion. Moss is a young guy with potential, hardly on the road to "Bust City".

[rskinsfan10]

HONEST TO GAAAAAD ! ! !
of course it did NOT happen ! !
the jets fo ( morons ) came & offered you guys s.moss ! ! !
it did NOT happen because gibbs saw a chance to get SOMETHING/a pretty good player for l.coles ! ! !
IF YOU GUYS HAD LET HOM GO/RELEASE HIM/CUT HIM you would have
received/gotten -------> NOTHIN ! ! !
coach gibbs was able to salvage something out of the " coles " situation ! !
as far as the salary cap issue goes, you just " put it off " until the future.the 'skins are NOT THE ONLY TEAM IN THE NFL that does that.
cheers ~ ~ ~
:beer:

First of all, please dispense with the over-dramatic HONEST TO GAAAAD crap.

Secondly, I know why it didn't happen. You said that it was going to happen if the Jets hadn't offered Moss. I'm telling you that it wouldn't have happened even if the Jets hadn't offered Moss. Gibbs, and now Snyder has made that abundantly clear.

Lastly, we didn't put any cap issues off until the future with Coles. He is now effectively off our books now, so what exactly are you talking about?

[kelly]

At this point, Moss certainly can't be considered a "has been". More like Gardner, a "never was". But, he's still young so it could very well happen for him here in DC.

BurgundyNGold : hi ~ ~ ~
" . . . he's still young so it could very well happen for him here in DC. "
~ i agree. he & ramsey will probably make a great " QB/WR " tandem :banghead:
coach gibbs is drawin' up the plays right now ;)

[C-7]

My last thoughts on the Coles subject (for today :) )

I'm pissed.

Pro Sports are crazy. Where does a player get off telling the coach he's not happy about his situation and demands to be released or traded. I mean, the guy signed a CONTRACT. He signed for better or for worse, for the long run, not for Spurrier or whoever, not just to boost up his stats.

"Trust nobody in Washington" Coles said.

I can't believe the things this jerk has provoked. I mean, can you believe the situation this guy has us in? I salute Danny Snyder for having threatened him the way he did! They should have benched him the way they did Glenn. Now this opens up the door for anybody who's not happy to demand a trade or whatever! What if Clinton Portis is not happy with the running plays next year! Or maybe, Santana Moss, who has spoken to Coles, what if 2 years from now he wants out.

If he doesn't want to be here, then let him go! I'm fine with that, but this idiot should be thankful that we let him go, not bashing the skins organization, who paid him a lot of money for only 2 yeas service.

Sorry guys, but it's hard to put into words how angry I really am. Gibbs should have waived that contract in his face and said "You're gonna stay here, like it or not!"

Antoher thing that has already been mentioned: Can anybody name one other player, ONE MORE FREAKING PLAYER, who's had problems in his personal dealings with Gibbs? Please, somebody name a player!


:Peace: I'm out.

[kelly]

First of all, please dispense with the over-dramatic HONEST TO GAAAAD crap.

Secondly, I know why it didn't happen. You said that it was going to happen if the Jets hadn't offered Moss. I'm telling you that it wouldn't have happened even if the Jets hadn't offered Moss. Gibbs, and now Snyder has made that abundantly clear.

Lastly, we didn't put any cap issues off until the future with Coles. He is now effectively off our books now, so what exactly are you talking about?

are you serious ? ? ?

ok, if you are :

1. coles wanted OUT of washington. he ( coles ) had an in-person meeting with coach gibbs & told gibbs as much.

2. coach gibbs did NOT want a player ( in this case l.coles ) on HIS roster/team that did NOT want to be a member of the redskins.

3. " Lastly, we didn't put any cap issues off until the future with Coles. He is now effectively off our books now, so what exactly are you talking about?[/QUOTE] "

- the jets/coles " pulled your ( the redskins' ) chestnuts out of the fire " ! ! re the salary cap ramifications.
danny coughed up MORE $ & the jets handed you s.moss :banghead:

[BurgundyNGold]

BurgundyNGold : hi ~ ~ ~
" . . . he's still young so it could very well happen for him here in DC. "
~ i agree. he & ramsey will probably make a great " QB/WR " tandem :banghead:
coach gibbs is drawin' up the plays right now ;)
Dude (I don't know if you're a dude cause of your gender-neutral handle and the picture of a chick as your avatar, but I'm guessing...), I can hardly read your posts because of all the crap you've got flashing around. It looks like a freakin' carnival or a radioactive flea circus, I'm not sure which. And all of these wild characters you seemingly intermittently toss into your text makes it look like hacker type.

Luckily, while the help of a team of scholars and some moments of meditiation, I was able to decipher your post. And I agree with you.

[kelly]

Dude (I don't know if you're a dude cause of your gender-neutral handle and the picture of a chick as your avatar, but I'm guessing...), I can hardly read your posts because of all the crap you've got flashing around. It looks like a freakin' carnival or a radioactive flea circus, I'm not sure which. And all of these wild characters you seemingly intermittently toss into your text makes it look like hacker type.

Luckily, while the help of a team of scholars and some moments of meditiation, I was able to decipher your post. And I agree with you.

thank you :rolleyes:

p.s.

i type in e~n~g~l~i~s~h ;)

[BurgundyNGold]

thank you :rolleyes:

p.s.

i type in e~n~g~l~i~s~h ;)
I know the language you use. You just spell like a j@c|<@$$.

[rskinsfan10]

are you serious ? ? ?

ok, if you are :

1. coles wanted OUT of washington. he ( coles ) had an in-person meeting with coach gibbs & told gibbs as much.

2. coach gibbs did NOT want a player ( in this case l.coles ) on HIS roster/team that did NOT want to be a member of the redskins.

3. " Lastly, we didn't put any cap issues off until the future with Coles. He is now effectively off our books now, so what exactly are you talking about? "

- the jets/coles " pulled your ( the redskins' ) chestnuts out of the fire " ! ! re the salary cap ramifications.
danny coughed up MORE $ & the jets handed you s.moss :banghead:[/QUOTE]

Are you serious?

1. Coles was under contract. That's considered a legally binding contract, which means the Redskins didn't have to release him or trade him. He was their property to do as they wanted to.

2. Read Gibbs comments when he talked about Coles returning if a trade couldn't be completed. You did see/read them, didn't you?

3.The Jets didn't do anything for the Redskins. Doing something for them would have been taking that $5mil roster bonus hit that the Skins were attempting to get them to take earlier in the negotiations. So, exactly how did they "pull the Redskin's chestnuts out of the fire?"

[funbunch]

Coles is a big crybaby. See you later Coles. You were a wannabe smurf.

[SkinsForLife]

George Michaels was talkin about Coles on Channel 4 this evening and reported that Coles was talkin some more trash. He said that Joe Gibbs wasn't his friend, he didn't trust Joe Gibbs, and he was upset about the play calling and the fact that Gibbs was calling the plays and never consulting Laverneous. Hope he has nothing but dissapointment in NY.

[BurgundyNGold]

George Michaels was talkin about Coles on Channel 4 this evening and reported that Coles was talkin some more trash. He said that Joe Gibbs wasn't his friend, he didn't trust Joe Gibbs, and he was upset about the play calling and the fact that Gibbs was calling the plays and never consulting Laverneous. Hope he has nothing but dissapointment in NY.
Are you freakin' kidding me?! Who does this little b@sta@rd think he is?! Joe Gibbs has to consult with him before calling plays???

[redskin_rich]

George Michaels was talkin about Coles on Channel 4 this evening and reported that Coles was talkin some more trash. He said that Joe Gibbs wasn't his friend, he didn't trust Joe Gibbs, and he was upset about the play calling and the fact that Gibbs was calling the plays and never consulting Laverneous. Hope he has nothing but dissapointment in NY.
Hmm...Didn't Gibbs say he talked with Clinton Portis about plays during games? Do you think Coles had Portis envy? :D

[redwolf1218]

i can hear that conversation now...
Gibbs: "what should we do Mr. Coles?"
Coles: "throw me the ball."
Gibbs: "you mean more than we already are? You're on pace for 90 receptions!"

[PennSkinsFan]

Hmm...Didn't Gibbs say he talked with Clinton Portis about plays during games? Do you think Coles had Portis envy? :D

Rih, havehad those exact thoughts. Not only was Coles hesitant of Gibbs when Gibbs chose to come back, bu i do not think he liked the Portis signing at all. Coles wanted to be front and cneter period, and he could not stand the thought of sharing thelimelight in the offense.

[BurgundyNGold]

Hmm...Didn't Gibbs say he talked with Clinton Portis about plays during games? Do you think Coles had Portis envy? :D
[Groan]. Ooooooh that was bad. ;)

[rskinsfan10]

Rih, havehad those exact thoughts. Not only was Coles hesitant of Gibbs when Gibbs chose to come back, bu i do not think he liked the Portis signing at all. Coles wanted to be front and cneter period, and he could not stand the thought of sharing thelimelight in the offense.
Yep, as the days go by this becomes even more apparent IMO.

[whitskins]

Rih, havehad those exact thoughts. Not only was Coles hesitant of Gibbs when Gibbs chose to come back, bu i do not think he liked the Portis signing at all. Coles wanted to be front and cneter period, and he could not stand the thought of sharing thelimelight in the offense.

Guys like this always get their comeuppance. Coles = the next past his prime Keyshawn

[CarMike]

I have to admit that Coles has absolutely shocked me with his actions. The way he kept his mouth shut and played the game during the past two seasons, i'm flabbergasted. [?]

I remember how he was kissing Snyders arse before and after we signed him.

Good riddance

[redskin_rich]

Yeah, my bad joke aside, I do think that the biggest issue with Lav was when we brought in Portis and made him the focal point of this offense. When will these selfish players learn.
On another note, I don't care who Herm Edwards brought in as OC, they will still be conservative on offense and Coles will be unhappy again.

[smoak]

Hmm...Didn't Gibbs say he talked with Clinton Portis about plays during games? Do you think Coles had Portis envy? :D

Yes I'm off the hook for worst joke or pun of the day!!! Thanks Rich!

Now if we only had Curtis Ennis then that joke would work a little better...

[bosshog001]

I would have threatened him to if i was the owner, especially have he was getting his wish out of DC then sabatoged the deal.

No kidding, he held us up. Got more money than he would have and screwed us in the process. Who says being unprofessional doesn't pay.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Rih, havehad those exact thoughts. Not only was Coles hesitant of Gibbs when Gibbs chose to come back, bu i do not think he liked the Portis signing at all. Coles wanted to be front and cneter period, and he could not stand the thought of sharing thelimelight in the offense.
Yep, and that's why I'm glad we got the deal done and and that he isn't a Redskin anymore.

[RedskinsVision]

it's over and done with now. after losing Pierce and Smoot, it's sad but hopefully that's the last of the important players that won't be back. at least now we can focus on the players we do have and will get instead of who we lost. losing LC doesn't sadden me one bit.

[BurgundyNGold]

it's over and done with now. after losing Pierce and Smoot, it's sad but hopefully that's the last of the important players that won't be back. at least now we can focus on the players we do have and will get instead of who we lost. losing LC doesn't sadden me one bit.
Well, they had better reshoot the Redskins gamewear catalog soon. There are a bunch of shots of both Smoot and Coles in there!

[rskinsfan10]

Well, they had better reshoot the Redskins gamewear catalog soon. There are a bunch of shots of both Smoot and Coles in there!

Yeah, really.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Well, they had better reshoot the Redskins gamewear catalog soon. There are a bunch of shots of both Smoot and Coles in there!
...and coles is the watermark on redskins.com..... :banghead:

[truant]

Nice photoshop work, Lady!


Wow... Coles is really a disappointing person. I'm glad this is happening. Coles is a 'me' type of person and it'd come out sooner or later.

Only a matter of time before he stabs the Jets in the back, again.

[Emmanouel8]

Dude I never knew how much me and Danny were alike, I posted almost exactly what he said except for the plasma TV bit which was classic. I'm one plasma TV bit away from being a billionaire.

As far as that clown Coles, your stupid :jetsuk:

[Emmanouel8]

PS deep down inside I would have followed through w/ the plasma screen and pine and made him suffer.

[bgforever]

Anytime someone has a problem with everyone around them...it is usually that person who actually has the problem.

Unless we meet in the Super Bowl, we won't play the Jets until 2007. But hey...by that time, Coles will have alienated himself from the Jets by then...


And people said Aliens don't exist. :)

[dukeuch]

Exactly the point....Coles went from a bad to medium running team (us) to a good running team (the Jets) so if he's expecting an air it out offense in Jet-Land he's been firing up the chronic.

Hate him if you want, but he'll be pro-bowl next year.

[BigPlayJay]

I had no idea Coles was so unhappy, but i do remeber an unusual comment during training camp last year from him. He said in response to a question something like "What's the difference, all we are going to do is run the ball anyways".

This suprised me because I thought of Coles as a team player until then. I kind of thought he was being sarcastic and just messing with the media. It is apprent now that Coles was just a closet whiner!

[dj_stouty]

Hate him if you want, but he'll be pro-bowl next year.

How do you figure? Did you consult the Magic 8 ball?

[Jimreaper007]

Hate him if you want, but he'll be pro-bowl next year.

So Coles will be in the Pro-Bowl Next Year?

How am I going to do with this lottery ticket?

[VirginiaRedskin]

I love Danny Boy, I dont know why some skins fans dont... He cant control these greedy sobs after he signs them...

Good job Dan, if they act like greedy little bastards, threaten them with whatever it takes... We are right behind you...

Oh and if anyone ever happens to see LC, please stomp on that bastard's toe for me! :devil2:

I hear you! I have developed a new found respect over the last year for Snyder. Pandering to player-cry babies will not help this team.

[BigPlayJay]

Way to go Mr Snyder!

[akhhorus]

Hate him if you want, but he'll be pro-bowl next year.

With Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne, Harrison, Chad Johnson, Hines Ward and Andre Johnson all in the AFC? Not bloody likely.

[PA Skins Girl]

What I come back to is, if Snyder actually did threaten him that he better take this trade or else; then the Skins wanted him out of town as much or more than Coles wanted out of town. I mean if Snyder was hell bent on trading him, despite the $5.9 million cap hit, Coles must have really pissed him and Gibbs off. The toe is one thing but the problem was much deeper than that. I suspect Coles really laid into Gibbs during their meeting, completely disrespected him, and Gibbs was not willing to have a guy like that on the team. There is definately more to it than just the toe and Coles being "unhappy".

[smoak]

What I come back to is, if Snyder actually did threaten him that he better take this trade or else; then the Skins wanted him out of town as much or more than Coles wanted out of town. I mean if Snyder was hell bent on trading him, despite the $5.9 million cap hit, Coles must have really pissed him and Gibbs off. The toe is one thing but the problem was much deeper than that. I suspect Coles really laid into Gibbs during their meeting, completely disrespected him, and Gibbs was not willing to have a guy like that on the team. There is definately more to it than just the toe and Coles being "unhappy".

I agree and I'm glad he is gone.

Its funny to think back before the Coles story broke and how so many guys were restructuring and everyone here was predicting a "big signing". Ah how naive we were.

[PennSkinsFan]

I think getting lost in all this emotion is the central part of the overhaul. Gibbs watched his offense struggle, Gibbs took much of the blame and said he would fix it. Do we all honestly believe that the guy that perfect and created an opffense that won three superbowls, did nto pay attention last season, did not learn last season, did not figure out waht was wrong, did not see what his weaknesses on offense were? Do we have that little faith in Gibbs that he was not perceptive after watching the games and then spending nights wee hours reviewing tapes, do we not assume or think that Gibbs may very well have figured out what he needed and what he lacked???? Have we lost faith in Joe Gibbs?

I haven't. I think he chose Santana Moss and david Patten, not because they are the cream of the crop of the NFL, but because they both served better purposes in moving his offense forweard. They possessed the skills that GIBBS wants and require sin his offensive plan. Is Moss better than Coles? I would say no, but I am not confident of that NO. I would rather wait and see in 2005. But does he fit better at what Gibbs is trying to do? I think so, or Gibbs would have gone another way, than pursue Moss for nearly a few weeks. Did Gibbs and GW picked the right personnel for GW's defense? With the third ranking, I woudl say YES, so as far as who Gibbs pciked to fit his offense, I trust and have faith. I sPatten betetr tha Gardner? Some say No. Some say there even, I say he is better. He is faster, more complete, way more consistent and has a great attitude, in my books, that makes him better.

Just trust!

[PA Skins Girl]

I think getting lost in all this emotion is the central part of the overhaul. Gibbs watched his offense struggle, Gibbs took much of the blame and said he would fix it. Do we all honestly believe that the guy that perfect and created an opffense that won three superbowls, did nto pay attention last season, did not learn last season, did not figure out waht was wrong, did not see what his weaknesses on offense were? Do we have that little faith in Gibbs that he was not perceptive after watching the games and then spending nights wee hours reviewing tapes, do we not assume or think that Gibbs may very well have figured out what he needed and what he lacked???? Have we lost faith in Joe Gibbs?

I haven't. I think he chose Santana Moss and david Patten, not because they are the cream of the crop of the NFL, but because they both served better purposes in moving his offense forweard. They possessed the skills that GIBBS wants and require sin his offensive plan. Is Moss better than Coles? I would say no, but I am not confident of that NO. I would rather wait and see in 2005. But does he fit better at what Gibbs is trying to do? I think so, or Gibbs would have gone another way, than pursue Moss for nearly a few weeks. Did Gibbs and GW picked the right personnel for GW's defense? With the third ranking, I woudl say YES, so as far as who Gibbs pciked to fit his offense, I trust and have faith. I sPatten betetr tha Gardner? Some say No. Some say there even, I say he is better. He is faster, more complete, way more consistent and has a great attitude, in my books, that makes him better.

Just trust!Excellent Post. Thank you, I feel much better now.