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BurgundyNGold
03-08-2005, 04:40 PM
Clayton over at ESPN seems to think it was a good deal for everyone, with nobody getting the better of it He scored both the Redskins and the Jets with a 3/4 for the trade.

Here's the link (about 1/8 of the way down) (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2004380)

In case the page is inaccessible:

John Clayton's analysis: 3/4 for Jets; 3/4 for Redskins.
The move: WR Laveranues Coles traded from the Washington Redskins to the New York Jets for WR Santana Moss.

The upside
Jets: Coles brings back a big degree of toughness to the Jets passing offense. Even with his bad toe, which didn't require surgery, Coles caught 90 passes. He's caught 89, 82 and 90 passes over the past three seasons. Plus, he was Chad Pennington's favorite target before Coles left for the Redskins.
Redskins: The Redskins didn't get a lot of big plays and touchdowns from their receiving corps last year so they are going a different direction with the passing offense. With Moss and David Patten, the Redskins have a little more speed and might be able to do better with yards after the catch. That was a big problem last year. Rod Gardner and Coles are bigger receivers but don't have as quick a feet as Moss and Patten. Plus, Moss offers a threat on punts.

The downside
Jets: The only downside is the yards after the catch. That shouldn't be a problem if Coles' toe is all right. Coles' yards per catch have dropped from 14.7 in 2003 to 10.6 last year. That's a number that needs to get back to 14.
Redskins: Moss has had a history of injuries, so going to a smaller, quicker receiving unit may test the unit's durability. Also, the Redskins run a very complicated offense under Joe Gibbs so it might take a while for Moss to catch on. He's only had one season in which he's caught more than 50 passes.

Clayton's take: This was a trade to fit the philosophies so both sides feel as though they won. The Jets get a warrior in Coles. The Redskins acquire excitement in Moss.

Ramsey2Moss
03-08-2005, 04:44 PM
Good stuff. I still say Clayton is my favorite ESPN analyst, with Skalereth right behind him.

GolfFreak
03-08-2005, 04:48 PM
How can someone weigh this deal w/o looking at the imact to the team's salary cap? Once you add that to the equation I think it tips the scales heavily in favor of the Jets.

LadyNRedskinsfan
03-08-2005, 04:49 PM
good breakdown. i see he stayed away from the financial ramifications......

The Skinsinator
03-08-2005, 04:54 PM
Yeah, Clayton does a pretty good job. In addition, he doesn't seem to be so negative toward us like a lot of NFL analysts. I think the winner of this trade will take 1-2 years to determine. A large factor involving this will be the health and overall durability of both players. A lot of Miami fans were very high on Moss and felt we got a great player. Hopefully, this will prove true. Does anyone know anything about Moss's personality? I hope he is a team player like Patten. This could prove very good for our whole offense. Coles's selfishness was a true detriment along with Gardner's nonchalant attitude and performance.

D-Ruck #8
03-08-2005, 05:01 PM
Good stuff. I still say Clayton is my favorite ESPN analyst, with Skalereth right behind him.

Yeah, me too. I also like Mark May, but he does college.

MoeRedskins
03-08-2005, 05:05 PM
Nice breakdown of the trade, but only time will tell for sure. Thankfully this whole fiasco will be put behind us eventually.

Jimreaper007
03-08-2005, 05:06 PM
Yep...just glad it is done and LC is gone

The Skinsinator
03-08-2005, 05:07 PM
How can someone weigh this deal w/o looking at the imact to the team's salary cap? Once you add that to the equation I think it tips the scales heavily in favor of the Jets.

Yeah, just for this year. It should clear up a lot for the next couple of years as long as Moss is reasonable in his contract demands following next season. Nowadays, this variable is certainly an if.

kelly
03-08-2005, 05:14 PM
Clayton over at ESPN seems to think it was a good deal for everyone, with nobody getting the better of it He scored both the Redskins and the Jets with a 3/4 for the trade.

Here's the link (about 1/8 of the way down) (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2004380)

In case the page is inaccessible:

" . . . Also, the Redskins run a very complicated offense under Joe Gibbs so it might take a while for Moss to catch on. He's only had one season in which he's caught more than 50 passes. . . " :rolleyes:



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