Official Bye Smoot Thread

[IMALILTEAPOT]

This thread will be for all the fans who don't trash a player just cuz he leaves the team(unless he bashes us of course). All the smoot haters can just not post. I wanna say bye smoot, we'll miss you, i hope u become a beast in minnesota(if the rumor is true)

[BurgundyNGold]

If we don't hate him but don't think he is as good as he does or is even worth the reported $12M SB, can we still post here?

[IMALILTEAPOT]

If we don't hate him but don't think he is as good as he does or is even worth the reported $12M SB, can we still post here?
yea thats fine if u dont hate him

[chrisbcbu]

This would be good if Smoot was OFFICIALLY gone.

[MoeRedskins]

nothing is officail yet, so don't be so negative. Anything can happen in today's NFL.

[Redskinmayhem]

I can only sum it up by Saying this: I will Always be a Smoot fan provided it doesn't interfere with me being a Redskins fan because I am a Redskins fan first and Foremost.

[guinness4health]

i love smoot hope the front office ponies up the cash cause the signing bonus is reasonable...even if it is more than we spend on springs....

i consider it reasonable inflation

[redskin_rich]

I doubt anybody hates Smoot, some of us think he was offered enough money and he should have taken it.

I think this thread is premature. There is no valid report that Smoot has signed anywhere.

[portis2endzone]

umm.... hes not gone yet.

[Vonslydog]

I can only sum it up by Saying this: I will Always be a Smoot fan provided it doesn't interfere with me being a Redskins fan because I am a Redskins fan first and Foremost.
hear,hear!... but this thread is premature

[IMALILTEAPOT]

we all know he's gonna leave. just say goodbye

[BurgundyNGold]

Could the be a premature e-valediction? (Snickering)

[akhhorus]

Could the be a premature e-valediction? (Snickering)

I want you to know---its taking a lot of will power for me not to make a sick joke here...

[Shawnb555]

i bet he will bash the Redskins an DS when he signs a deal with another team

[hail2skins]

He has not officially signed anywhere, so this thread is being closed.

[Shawnb555]

he has now


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2008178

[Jimreaper007]

Smoot enjoy Minnesota

Goodluck against everyone except the skins

[gbalzac]

Will miss smoot...he was my favorite skin and had more personality than half the team combined. Anyone cocky enough to say "2/3rds of the world is covered with water. The other 1/3rd is covered by Smoot." has my love and he could back it up.

[whitskins]

Smoot, I enjoyed rooting for you and you earned you money with Minnesota. I wish you good luck but take your payday with class, if you bash our team like some punks have on the way out, then your memory will die with me just like theirs did. Until then, I'll wish you good luck.

[smoak]

yea thats fine if u dont hate him

what if i don't hate him, but i REALLY hate the cheapskate move he pulled by leaving for not much more than we offered?

[BurgundyNGold]

Later Smoot. Have fun in Minnesota, eh. :weak:

[PA Skins Girl]

I loved his personality. Talked thrash, but wasnt out to put anyone else down. Sorry to see you go. Gonna hate hearin' another stadium yell "Smoooooot!"

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

:cry:

:welcome: smooty....good luck in minnesota....

[redskin_rich]

Bye Smoot. Enjoy the ice fishing.

[hogs86]

Smooooot i lived in Minny for a year you are a Miss. boy you will not make it there .It is the coldest place on earth.I loved calling your name at FEDEX.Now i will call you sell out !! You are not a REDSKINS FOR LIFE You and That Punk A______SS Coles are all about the MONEY!!!

[Ramsey2Moss]

Bye buddy...
Best of luck. Hope you can make that ****ty defense better.

[tbfoster1]

Smoooooooot. why'd you do it? Good Luck in Minnesota I guess.

[rskinsfan10]

Smoooooooot. why'd you do it? Good Luck in Minnesota I guess.
Did you finally go through with the sig pic?

[Ramsey2Moss]

Did you finally go through with the sig pic?
Haha, I was wondering the same...

[IndianBaller27]

haha YS, you got your wish! (No, he didn't want Smoot to leave)

[tbfoster1]

Did you finally go through with the sig pic?

not yet, but sometime tomorrow i will have a new sig with a picture of the fate of my smoot jersey.

[BurgundyNGold]

not yet, but sometime tomorrow i will have a new sig with a picture of the fate of my smoot jersey.
Hey, PM me to tell me how you did that, OK? Thanks.

[BIGSEF3]

bye smoot. hope you enjoy being a good defensive player on a team with no defense worth speaking of! you may shut your #2 man down, but its gonna be frustrating watching teams run for 10 yards against you on every play!

oh, and enjoy watching the greenbay fans moon you twice a year after you lose to the pack!

[PGiddy18]

If redskinskA were to post, she'd be very upset. I will miss you smoot! So much for naming my dog Smoot, just so jess can call out to him "SMOOOOOOT!!" Good luck in with the Viks. just not against us.

[OCSkinzFan]

Does he really thin' they gonna understands his down-Sout’ suthen accent way up Nort’. Good googley-moogley they gonna thin’ the bo’got’a speech’pedamet.

I loved you man...you showed.

Goodnight moon...

Goodnight Smoot...


:cry:

[Jero]

Goodbye Fred. I met you at an autograph signing once, and i remember you asked me my name and thanked me for being a fan. Good luck in Minny-they are lucky to be getting a guy like you.

[gibbsisgod]

smoot played tough here, but got the better deal in minny.... peace. My last smoooooooooooot.

[bwparker]

Smoot: You have been my favorite 'Skin for the last 3 years. You were my first jersey. You had great personality and played with passion. You are as close to a true Redskins as we've had in this modern era. For this you will always be remembered.

I take solace knowing that you've gone to a RICHER place.

Rest in Purple.



...Notice I didn't BETTER place...

[Axegrinder]

As soon as you signed with Minnesota,you're not one of ours anymore.
You are now the enemy and will be treated as such.

[scacchi]

Smmmooooootttttttt!! Thanks for the memories! You're all heart and will be truly missed. Goodluck in the future, unless that is you are playing the Skins!

[hogs86]

Smoot - I have just have two words for you,and Coles Yeah are a bunch of punk a_______ss no playing fools.Let me pretend like i am a real redskin player For Life!! You and Coles this week proved your color's to me and they are not B&G .They are GREEN !! Good luck i hope you have fun >>>>>

[suppitty]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.

[LATrueRedskin]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.

I'm not a fan of a guy who leaves for $800,000 more when he said he'd stay if the deal was within $2 million. I'm sure Smoot is a great and fun human being, but he is no "true Redskin" by any means. If he was, he wouldn't be a Minnesota Viking.

[rskinsfan10]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.

Yeah, okay.

I'm disgusted that you are disgusted at others simply because they didn't/don't adore Smoot as much as you do.

[akhhorus]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.


You're entitled to most of the opinion here...but THE GREATEST REDSKIN OF THE LAST 10 YEARS? You have got to be ***CENSORED BY SPENCE***ing me.

[swheeler]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.Oh yeah I forgot smoot and coles matter more than the entire rest of the team. Our D will be fine without smoot, who was it who shut down Randy again? Certainly not smoot. And our receivers are already better than last year. We need a deep threat to open up the running game, and Coles didn't cut it. I'm sure you were complaining about our passing schemes last year well this is the solution. Coles might have been complaining that he didn't get to go deep enough, but it was because with his toe he doesnt scare anyone deep, we used him the only way we could.

:devil2:

[hail2skins]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.

Welcome to Free Agency where there is no loyalty on any side.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.
wow sup....get down off of the ledge. im just as upset about smoot leaving but its not like its the end of the world. smoot can and will be replaced somehow.

[akhhorus]

Welcome to Free Agency where there is no loyalty on any side.

I know. Smoot told everybody who was a skins fan that he would stay with the Skins if it was "only a million or two difference"...GUess what...He lied.

[redskin_rich]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.


Smoot was never even the best on this team at his position.

[BandWagon]

Loved him while he was here...not willing to mortgage our future on him either. Best of luck!

[authentic]

we should trust in coach GW.... look at what the team did against one of the best offenses in football the last game of the season.. we did it with nearly all backups.. think about it

[SusQhnnaSkin]

Smoot was never even the best on this team at his position.

Correct. Smoot was great while here I hate to see this fan fav leave. But the teams W/L in 05 does not revolve around Fred. The sun will rise, the D will still dominate games. HAIL

[LATrueRedskin]

we should trust in coach GW.... look at what the team did against one of the best offenses in football the last game of the season.. we did it with nearly all backups.. think about it

Ironically it was the Minnesota Vikings. Welcome aboard. :)

[hogs86]

Smooty cry me a River maybe the Mississippi .You are a punk .$*800.00 your agent could have got that for you.During a couple of autograph signings.What a sale out!!! Good luck and please do not come back!!

[PennSkinsFan]

I'M DISGUSTED WITH EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD THAT DOESN'T CARE THAT SMOOT HAS LEFT.

He was probably the greatest REDSKIN of the last 10 years (barring darrell green). He had the biggest heart of anyone on the team, and gave 125% every week. Have you all forgotten the games he played through with the shoulder injuries. How he came back, and played hurt, and how he was such a great cover corner. There is no replacing a player like Smoot. A player with his heart only comes around every 20 years or so.

It wasn;t his fault. We can blame our horribly innept front office, and a coach that, like other team's suggested, doesn;t understand the modern nfl or its athletes. I can't think of any other way that a player like LC would be so pissed. And then you cut him, lose 9.3 million in cap space. Cap space which could be used to re-sign our leader.

SO ITS OK, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER CORNER, AND THEN WE'LL GO 5-11, AND MISS THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN. AT LEAST WE'LL BE IN THE SAME POSITION NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME; IN THE MIDST OF ANOTHER OFFSEASON OVERHAUL.


I'M TRULY DISGUSTED.

GoodBye Freddy, We'll pay for this, I know we will.

I pretty much disagree with the entire sentiment of this post. I am trying hard to find something in it I agree with.

Greates Redskin of the last ten years? I don't think so, not IMO. In fact, besdies last season (a contract season) Smoot was not a hitter, plays tens yard off the receiver, and gives up a ton of first downs. Smoot has done pretty well because the Redskisn have alwasy had a good CB on the opposite side. I guess I shoudl say, the Redskins have had a BETTER CB on the other side. Champ was better than Smoot and so is Springs.

All the games he played through with shoulder injuries? That was just THIS year a CONTRACT year. Pullleze.


Cover CB? Smoot was infamous for giving too much cushion. He was not and is not a shut down corner. I am not going to belittle him, he has tremednous talent, but don't kid yoursefl, he was and is not among the NFL elite Cbs, and that is why many teams were standoffish toward his free agency.

Inept front office? Disagree again, this season is quite refreshing to me. Gibbs had major roster turnover last season, brought in up to 30 new guys. The team is gaining chemcistry, the team is grasping the offense, it showed toward the end of the season. He addresses our main weaknes, Center, and gives Coles a trade, because Coles wants one. It is called INTEGRITY and Gibbs has it! Coles wnated out, was not happy, and Gibbs and Snydder made it happen. What other owner woudl have given up $9.3 million???????? Snyder stood back, allowed gibbs to make this call, and ate a huge chunk of money. That alone in itself has showed how much Snyder has changed for the better, but Snyder allowed gibbs to make the deal and get Coles out since he was unhappy. You take Brunnel out of th epicture and I BEG TO DIFFER WITH YOU, this front offic edid a hellua job last year bringin in guys liek Portis, Springs, Washington, Salave'a, etc....and this seaosn they decided to be cost effective, cost conscience and draw a line. You can not have every single position with big salary numbers, you just can't. Get over it!

So we lose Fred Smoot and we go 5-11. What??????????????????? Sorry pal, but my faith lies in Gregg Williams until he proves me wrong. BTW, w ehave not had a winning record since Smot has been here, so that shoots down your last theory that we will have a losing record just because Smoot is gone, please, enough already.

[SusQhnnaSkin]

Welcome Authentic! :beer:

[swheeler]

we should trust in coach GW.... look at what the team did against one of the best offenses in football the last game of the season.. we did it with nearly all backups.. think about it

you're in the right place, welcome aboard

[SusQhnnaSkin]

I pretty much disagree with the entire sentiment of this post. I am trying hard to find something in it I agree with.

Greates Redskin of the last ten years? I don't think so, not IMO. In fact, besdies last season (a contract season) Smoot was not a hitter, plays tens yard off the receiver, and gives up a ton of first downs. Smoot has done pretty well because the Redskisn have alwasy had a good CB on the opposite side. I guess I shoudl say, the Redskins have had a BETTER CB on the other side. Champ was better than Smoot and so is Springs.

All the games he played through with shoulder injuries? That was just THIS year a CONTRACT year. Pullleze.


Cover CB? Smoot was infamous for giving too much cushion. He was not and is not a shut down corner. I am not going to belittle him, he has tremednous talent, but don't kid yoursefl, he was and is not among the NFL elite Cbs, and that is why many teams were standoffish toward his free agency.

Inept front office? Disagree again, this season is quite refreshing to me. Gibbs had major roster turnover last season, brought in up to 30 new guys. The team is gaining chemcistry, the team is grasping the offense, it showed toward the end of the season. He addresses our main weaknes, Center, and gives Coles a trade, because Coles wants one. It is called INTEGRITY and Gibbs has it! Coles wnated out, was not happy, and Gibbs and Snydder made it happen. What other owner woudl have given up $9.3 million???????? Snyder stood back, allowed gibbs to make this call, and ate a huge chunk of money. That alone in itself has showed how much Snyder has changed for the better, but Snyder allowed gibbs to make the deal and get Coles out since he was unhappy. You take Brunnel out of th epicture and I BEG TO DIFFER WITH YOU, this front offic edid a hellua job last year bringin in guys liek Portis, Springs, Washington, Salave'a, etc....and this seaosn they decided to be cost effective, cost conscience and draw a line. You can not have every single position with big salary numbers, you just can't. Get over it!

So we lose Fred Smoot and we go 5-11. What??????????????????? Sorry pal, but my faith lies in Gregg Williams until he proves me wrong. BTW, w ehave not had a winning record since Smot has been here, so that shoots down your last theory that we will have a losing record just because Smoot is gone, please, enough already.

Thank you PSF. The team is much bigger than smoot. GW's D still dominates in 05. HAIL

[redskin_rich]

Not trying to bash Freddie but the sad thing for me is the final Smoot performance. Getting torched by Keshawn and two ridiculous penalties, especially the helmet tackle which ended up injuring him.

[Dexter72]

Look at some of the other big shot CBs who have recently changed teams:

Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent -- They may as well have not played last year...neither was a factor, and Philly didn't miss a beat.

Champ - Probably the guy who could claim to be the best player the Redskins have had over the past 10 years based on pro bowls (not my opinion). Was very average in Denver, meanwhile the Redskins defensive rank jumped about 23 spots.

Ty Law - Hasn't left NE, but he looks pretty stupid now for whining about his 14 mill contract when the Pats proved they can win a Super Bowl without him.

Duane Starks - A pro bowl caliber player in Baltimore, he is getting tossed away for a mid round pick by Arizona, meanwhile his replacement in Baltimore (Baxter) just got a 10 mill signing bonus. Maybe its the system?

Antoine Winfield - Buffalo had a top 5 defense again, and Minnesota's defense was still pathetic.

Unfortunately for Smoot, I think he'll struggle in Minn. They now have two small corners in a division of big WRs (Roy, Mushin, Javon, Rogers) and playing on the rug is tough for a CB; especially a CB like Smoot that doesn't have elite speed. Meanwhile, the Skins will be okay with Harris or whoever, just like Buffalo and Philly were last year.

[bgforever]

Look at some of the other big shot CBs who have recently changed teams:

Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent -- They may as well have not played last year...neither was a factor, and Philly didn't miss a beat.

Champ - Probably the guy who could claim to be the best player the Redskins have had over the past 10 years based on pro bowls (not my opinion). Was very average in Denver, meanwhile the Redskins defensive rank jumped about 23 spots.

Ty Law - Hasn't left NE, but he looks pretty stupid now for whining about his 14 mill contract when the Pats proved they can win a Super Bowl without him.

Duane Starks - A pro bowl caliber player in Baltimore, he is getting tossed away for a mid round pick by Arizona, meanwhile his replacement in Baltimore (Baxter) just got a 10 mill signing bonus. Maybe its the system?

Antoine Winfield - Buffalo had a top 5 defense again, and Minnesota's defense was still pathetic.

Unfortunately for Smoot, I think he'll struggle in Minn. They now have two small corners in a division of big WRs (Roy, Mushin, Javon, Rogers) and playing on the rug is tough for a CB; especially a CB like Smoot that doesn't have elite speed. Meanwhile, the Skins will be okay with Harris or whoever, just like Buffalo and Philly were last year.


Detroit also has Marcus Pollard at TE, a corner's nightmare, because he sometimes blow by safteties and corners like a wideout. He isn't the greatest of blocker, but small corners don't benefit at all. They play Detroit twice a year.

[bgforever]

Smoot no need to post here. We know you are "internet conscience" and you dabble in trash talking, but remember it wasn't the love, it wasn't the coach, it wasn't being a core Redskin player Smoot, it was the money. That's all I got to say to you, since you know what you want and good luck in your journeys' young man.

[portis2endzone]

just like springs steped up and filled in for chump we will have someone step up and fill in for smoot.

i dont know why everyone is getting all excited and jumping up and down screaming we need to draft a cb with our first. last year chump was not supose to be replaced and we were suppose to have a huge hole in our secondary. well i dont know what happened to that hole but it got fixed just like this one will too. bye bye smoot.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Look at some of the other big shot CBs who have recently changed teams:

Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent -- They may as well have not played last year...neither was a factor, and Philly didn't miss a beat.

Champ - Probably the guy who could claim to be the best player the Redskins have had over the past 10 years based on pro bowls (not my opinion). Was very average in Denver, meanwhile the Redskins defensive rank jumped about 23 spots.

Ty Law - Hasn't left NE, but he looks pretty stupid now for whining about his 14 mill contract when the Pats proved they can win a Super Bowl without him.

Duane Starks - A pro bowl caliber player in Baltimore, he is getting tossed away for a mid round pick by Arizona, meanwhile his replacement in Baltimore (Baxter) just got a 10 mill signing bonus. Maybe its the system?

Antoine Winfield - Buffalo had a top 5 defense again, and Minnesota's defense was still pathetic.

Unfortunately for Smoot, I think he'll struggle in Minn. They now have two small corners in a division of big WRs (Roy, Mushin, Javon, Rogers) and playing on the rug is tough for a CB; especially a CB like Smoot that doesn't have elite speed. Meanwhile, the Skins will be okay with Harris or whoever, just like Buffalo and Philly were last year.
The voice of reason.... Agree.

[saviour]

I hate turnover and I will miss the guy. He played his heart out for us and that is all you can ask for. Once the Coles trade went through everyone knew that Smoot was gone because there was no money left to keep him.

NFL FA blows becuase it is way to hard to keep your own players. I like the NBA system much more becuase you can go over the salary cap to keep you team together. With the roster that we had last season we were only two players away from being a serious contender. We signed the center and we needed a pass rushing DE, and possibly a upgrade at TE although I would love to see Royal get a chance.

You almost have to train yourself not to appreciate any player in the NFL because there is no way to be certain that he will be back with your team the next season.

In any case, Smoot was one of my favorites and I wish him well.

[Jimreaper007]

Smoot's signing bonus was 10.8 and we offered 10.5

The fact is he didn't want to be a Redskin. Now he will be a part of the implosion of Minnesota while we rise like a phoenix from the ashes of the past crappy seasons and become the definitive power in the NFC.

[CAHILLSKINS]

but remember it wasn't the love, it wasn't the coach, it wasn't being a core Redskin player Smoot, it was the money. That's all I got to say to you,
Cash Rules Every Thing Around Me C.R.E.A.M. Get the money, dolla dolla bill yall. Good luck in Minny Smoot, Now you can afford a couple of space heaters and jackets for you family. I understand the problems you athletes go through. The priceless quote from Patrick Ewing sums it all up, " Yeah we make a lot of money, but we also spend a lot of money too! PRICELESS.

[openallnight]

Damn I heard the news on NFL net last night and I felt like someone shot my dog. This is a tough blow. The true Redskins that have paid their price with our team are becoming a dieing breed. This SUCKS!!!

[RoanokeSkin]

Look at some of the other big shot CBs who have recently changed teams:

Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent -- They may as well have not played last year...neither was a factor, and Philly didn't miss a beat.

Champ - Probably the guy who could claim to be the best player the Redskins have had over the past 10 years based on pro bowls (not my opinion). Was very average in Denver, meanwhile the Redskins defensive rank jumped about 23 spots.

Ty Law - Hasn't left NE, but he looks pretty stupid now for whining about his 14 mill contract when the Pats proved they can win a Super Bowl without him.

Duane Starks - A pro bowl caliber player in Baltimore, he is getting tossed away for a mid round pick by Arizona, meanwhile his replacement in Baltimore (Baxter) just got a 10 mill signing bonus. Maybe its the system?

Antoine Winfield - Buffalo had a top 5 defense again, and Minnesota's defense was still pathetic.

Unfortunately for Smoot, I think he'll struggle in Minn. They now have two small corners in a division of big WRs (Roy, Mushin, Javon, Rogers) and playing on the rug is tough for a CB; especially a CB like Smoot that doesn't have elite speed. Meanwhile, the Skins will be okay with Harris or whoever, just like Buffalo and Philly were last year.


:goodpost:

What more needs to be said. Good Luck Fred, you are going to need it.

[Sweepea436]

See Ya Smoot. Liked having you around. Too bad your were BULL$***ING when you were talking about being a core Redskin.... :Peace: out

[BigPlayJay]

I just saw a phone interview with Smoot on Comcast talking about his signing with the Vikings. He had only good things to say about coach Gibbs and how much he enjoyed being a Redskin. He said that they tryed really hard (Gibbs in particular) to get him back but in the end the salary cap was just too messed up. Even on this point he chose his words carefully.

My hats off to Smoot, a classy guy to the end unlike some over-egoed wide Recievers I know!

That being said I think we will be fine witout him and I'm glad we are cleaning up our salary cap mess now ratrher than a blowup later.

[lightskin]

Bye Smoot....

It was fun while it lasted. I'll break the news to my daughters when I get home. They were so happy when they bought me your jersey for Christmas :(

[PennSkinsFan]

Damn I heard the news on NFL net last night and I felt like someone shot my dog. This is a tough blow. The true Redskins that have paid their price with our team are becoming a dieing breed. This SUCKS!!!

I truly hoep your right. I hope this team is becomign a dying breed. I hope, i hope, i hope!!!!! Cause quite frankly, I am sick and tiredof this breed that puts together 5-11, 6-10 seasons! I am ready fro a new BREED dammit, and I believe and have faith Gibbs is delivering that!

[PennSkinsFan]

I just saw a phone interview with Smoot on Comcast talking about his signing with the Vikings. He had only good things to say about coach Gibbs and how much he enjoyed being a Redskin. He said that they tryed really hard (Gibbs in particular) to get him back but in the end the salary cap was just too messed up. Even on this point he chose his words carefully.

My hats off to Smoot, a classy guy to the end unlike some over-egoed wide Recievers I know!

That being said I think we will be fine witout him and I'm glad we are cleaning up our salary cap mess now ratrher than a blowup later.

and that is the truth, the word! We all get soooooo exocted over all these signings, Coles, Morton, Thomas, Washington, Springs, Portis, but folks, you have to pay the ipier at some point and we are NOW. Cap hell? Nop, that si the most overrated word, BUT we are havign camp implications right now from all the spending sprees of the past five season by not being able to ante up for guys we woudl liek to keep. get used to it, because 2007 and 2008 will not be pleasant either.

[Camden]

but remember it wasn't the love, it wasn't the coach, it wasn't being a core Redskin player Smoot, it was the money.

I agree w/ the sentiment that Smoot'll be replaced. Prolly with someone who'll have a more durable season.

Re: it being about the $$, that goes all around. It was about the $$ for the organization too if not moreso.

[vegeta2364]

sorry to see you go. peace my brother. we barely knew ye

[hailgibbsy]

Players will always have an ultimate choice whether or not they prefer to chase top dollar or find a home within a mutually supportive structure. I understand that many will chose the money. Why not? But I doubt Tom Brady will get "Payton Manning" money when his contract is up. The new model doesn't allow bank-breaking roster moves at the expense of the the entire team. Smoot bolted for greener pastures and sobeit. I'll take a core guy who fights his guts out and wants to be here. The cubbard isn't barren. We've got Wilds and Williams to mold him... we've got the draft and a sound program. I'll take the new Redskins any ol' day.

[suppitty]

I know I've taken a lot of heat in this thread, and probably rightfully so as I went on a crazy rant when I probably was too tied to go on, but I still say it was terrible to get rid of him.

I feel he was the best dback last year, and I loved his heart. Now we have no 2nd corner, and Springs could easily go back to his injured ways. I doubt whether Walt Harris still, or has ever had the ability to be a #2 corner in this league. By not resigning Smoot we have created a need that did not exist before.

People get on me for saying he is the greatest Redskin of the last 10 years. Name someone better. I allready said Green didn;t count. The only ones that comes to mind right now are Steven Davis and Jon Jansen. Who else played as well, and accomplished as much as Smoot? That is actually more of a reflection on how sorry this franchise has been rather than Smoot's greatnes.. He has played with the most heart of anyone 9more than Champ), and he didn;t get burned as often as Champ.
Otherwise, we haven;t hadf a great qb. Portis was a dissapointment last year to say the least. Coles wasn't here long enough, and he has been an ass since the end of the season. We haven't had a dlineman worth anything except for Griffin, but he needs to stay longer. Lavar has lost more games for us than he has won, and missed an entire season, and gotten in a fight with the owner. Champ acted like an ass once his contract was up.

I say it is a horrible loss, and I am so upset because he isnt the only one we have lost. We have also lost our mlb (no replacement in sight), and we have downgraded at wr from Gardner and Coles to Patten and Moss. We still don;t have a pass-rusher who can play in situations other than 3rd@long, and we don't have a wr over 5-11 on the roster. Even with the draft coming up, we will still have some gaping holes.

I hope that is a better respons. Sorry for the previous rant.

[IVSkinsFan]

So long Smoot. Enjoy your money. I have no hard feeling towards anyone that leaves for the Money.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

I know I've taken a lot of heat in this thread, and probably rightfully so as I went on a crazy rant when I probably was too tied to go on, but I still say it was terrible to get rid of him.

I feel he was the best dback last year, and I loved his heart. Now we have no 2nd corner, and Springs could easily go back to his injured ways. I doubt whether Walt Harris still, or has ever had the ability to be a #2 corner in this league. By not resigning Smoot we have created a need that did not exist before.

People get on me for saying he is the greatest Redskin of the last 10 years. Name someone better. I allready said Green didn;t count. The only ones that comes to mind right now are Steven Davis and Jon Jansen. Who else played as well, and accomplished as much as Smoot? That is actually more of a reflection on how sorry this franchise has been rather than Smoot's greatnes.. He has played with the most heart of anyone 9more than Champ), and he didn;t get burned as often as Champ.
Otherwise, we haven;t hadf a great qb. Portis was a dissapointment last year to say the least. Coles wasn't here long enough, and he has been an ass since the end of the season. We haven't had a dlineman worth anything except for Griffin, but he needs to stay longer. Lavar has lost more games for us than he has won, and missed an entire season, and gotten in a fight with the owner. Champ acted like an ass once his contract was up.

I say it is a horrible loss, and I am so upset because he isnt the only one we have lost. We have also lost our mlb (no replacement in sight), and we have downgraded at wr from Gardner and Coles to Patten and Moss. We still don;t have a pass-rusher who can play in situations other than 3rd@long, and we don't have a wr over 5-11 on the roster. Even with the draft coming up, we will still have some gaping holes.

I hope that is a better respons. Sorry for the previous rant.

you feel how i feel man. ive always tried to be upbeat about the skins, cuz we usually have so much talent, but i dont see us doing much next year.

[akhhorus]

People get on me for saying he is the greatest Redskin of the last 10 years. Name someone better. I allready said Green didn;t count. The only ones that comes to mind right now are Steven Davis and Jon Jansen. Who else played as well, and accomplished as much as Smoot? That is actually more of a reflection on how sorry this franchise has been rather than Smoot's greatnes.. He has played with the most heart of anyone 9more than Champ), and he didn;t get burned as often as Champ.

Smoot is good, but he's not--nor ever will-be considered great.
He's never been to a Probowl, and while they are popularity contests, he should have made at least one.

On who has accomplished more as a Redskins, I would put:
Jansen
Champ
Steve Davis
Lavar
Samuels
D. Green
Terry Allen
H. Ellard
Bruce Smith

and I would consider putting someone like Portis.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

Smoot is good, but he's not--nor ever will-be considered great.
He's never been to a Probowl, and while they are popularity contests, he should have made at least one.

On who has accomplished more as a Redskins, I would put:
Jansen
Champ
Steve Davis
Lavar
Samuels
D. Green
Terry Allen
H. Ellard
Bruce Smith

and I would consider putting someone like Portis.
huh? omg akh this is just silly. ur saying bruce has down more for the skisn than smoot? that old moron only was playing for the record, smoot plays for the fans and plays with heart. and portis is just here for one year. jansen hasnt been to a pro bowl either. smoot is probably the biggest fan fav of the last 10 years, not including darrell. smoot is probably tied with lavar

[bgforever]

I agree w/ the sentiment that Smoot'll be replaced. Prolly with someone who'll have a more durable season.

Re: it being about the $$, that goes all around. It was about the $$ for the organization too if not moreso.


Yeah see your point, but my eyes see a bit more than that. The timing of his decision was about as sly as you can get, if it weren't him, it had to at least be his agent. I am from a point of view, that your intent speaks volumes about you. No one questions his will or work ethic, at least I don't, but from the time this offer was laid out, Gibbs said he wouldn't budge and Smoot or the agent or both, relied on an old addage that worked before Gibbs came back.

Gibbs is ALSO the Redskins President, he doesn't NEED a single approval from anyone when he says 4 weeks ago, the offer is what it is. Meaning man to man, it aint' changing. Surely Smoot and his agent could have given the old courtesy call (of course for his agent that is way too difficult, as he waited for Dany Snyder to contradict Joe Gibbs). It is the same jockeying that goes on with all teams, but between the timing of leaving and alowing "a chance" for the coach to make up Smoot's loss, it was too close to looking like Coles to me.

Not sure what and how long a fan you are of the Skins, if that is what you are, but we took Smoot, (Marty's tenure) when no one was looking at him or even thought he should be around in even the 2nd round maybe the 3rd. Joe Gibbs didn't delay his ability to look elsewhere, but Joe was put on hold longer unnecessarily so he couldn't or wouldn't, because he's from the old school and this switching back and forth shows him not only has the sport become overhyped, but so have the courtesy moves between parties in negotiations.

Next agents will be laid out with blunts and hot legs in limos, pulling up to stadiums to make deals. I am at least assured that it won't happen on Joe Gibbs watch, neither the constant overblown deals. Go ahead and dig up the dead Brunell move, but rest it, better he's gone than to drag it out longer.

[akhhorus]

huh? omg akh this is just silly. ur saying bruce has down more for the skisn than smoot? that old moron only was playing for the record, smoot plays for the fans and plays with heart. and portis is just here for one year. jansen hasnt been to a pro bowl either. smoot is probably the biggest fan fav of the last 10 years, not including darrell. smoot is probably tied with lavar

Im sorry but Smoot is beneath Lavar, Jansen. Bruce, despite his whining and everything--had 29 sacks in four years for the skins. Smoot was good, but he's not an impact player at CB.

[bgforever]

Im sorry but Smoot is beneath Lavar, Jansen. Bruce, despite his whining and everything--had 29 sacks in four years for the skins. Smoot was good, but he's not an impact player at CB.


all three of those players restructed for Smoot. Bruce when Smoot was a rookie, LaVAr and Jansen over the last two years. Hmmm, aside from Smoots conversation, they were all equal in community service, showing up at games and working hard.

Maybe when you yak more, it has the commercial affect, people hear you and remember you, even if you didn't do a dam8 thing.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

you feel how i feel man. ive always tried to be upbeat about the skins, cuz we usually have so much talent, but i dont see us doing much next year.
Trust in Coach Gibbs. I know he'll make this team special.

[IndianBaller27]

No akh, YS is right. Smith was just playing for the record. And Smoot wasn't an impact player??? wow......

[akhhorus]

No akh, YS is right. Smith was just playing for the record. And Smoot wasn't an impact player??? wow......

Smoot was a good player, but by NO MEANS was he a shutdown corner or a player who could change a game.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

Im sorry but Smoot is beneath Lavar, Jansen. Bruce, despite his whining and everything--had 29 sacks in four years for the skins. Smoot was good, but he's not an impact player at CB.
stats dont mean everything akh. bruce took like 6 seconds to touch the qb. smoot gave him those 6 seconds

[IndianBaller27]

Smoot was a good player, but by NO MEANS was he a shutdown corner or a player who could change a game.
And Bruce Smith COULD change a game when he was with us????

[akhhorus]

And Bruce Smith COULD change a game when he was with us????

More than Smoot, yes. Bruce Smith was still a great player when the Skins got him--he had 10 sacks in 2000. Smoot was good, but he was not a guy like Champ was early in his career. Smoot would never have a 3 INT game, nor would he take on the #1 wideout/X wideout and shut him down.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

Smoot was a good player, but by NO MEANS was he a shutdown corner or a player who could change a game.
cbs dont usually change a game. i saw smoot end games a lot though.(Thta seattle game was the best)

[akhhorus]

cbs dont usually change a game. i saw smoot end games a lot though.(Thta seattle game was the best)

Great CBs do. Good Cbs play well, but dont. Smoot is not a great CB.

[IndianBaller27]

More than Smoot, yes. Bruce Smith was still a great player when the Skins got him--he had 10 sacks in 2000. Smoot was good, but he was not a guy like Champ was early in his career. Smoot would never have a 3 INT game, nor would he take on the #1 wideout/X wideout and shut him down.
And what exactly did we do in 2000?

[IMALILTEAPOT]

Great CBs do. Good Cbs play well, but dont. Smoot is not a great CB.
i never said hes a great cb. i just said hes one of the greatest skins in the last 10 years. he lead the skisn in pick for like 3 of his 4 years(wasnt that some record?) and not only did he put it all on the field, but he played with heart. he helped out with the run even though hes a small cb, and he has been a fan fav and a media fav. u cant doubt that

[IndianBaller27]

What happened akh? Cat gotcha toungue? :D j/p

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

What happened akh? Cat gotcha toungue? :D j/p
Prepare yourself to be aimed.... :D

[IndianBaller27]

Prepare yourself to be aimed.... :D
lol... I ain't scurred of akh :D

[RedskinRyan]

i knew something was brewing when IB im'ed me telling me him and YS teamed up and killed akh. i didnt expect a civil conversation though, i kinda pictured a huge swing from the thread topic.

[IndianBaller27]

I didn't say that Ryan

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I didn't say that Ryan
I smell fear..... :D

[IMALILTEAPOT]

snitches...

[IndianBaller27]

I smell fear..... :D
I told you. I'm not scurred of stat boy. :D

[silveranblack]

Smoot reminds me of Charles woodson what do you think about that? Do you think the raiders should let him go???

[skinslover]

I know I've taken a lot of heat in this thread, and probably rightfully so as I went on a crazy rant when I probably was too tied to go on, but I still say it was terrible to get rid of him.

I feel he was the best dback last year, and I loved his heart. Now we have no 2nd corner, and Springs could easily go back to his injured ways. I doubt whether Walt Harris still, or has ever had the ability to be a #2 corner in this league. By not resigning Smoot we have created a need that did not exist before.

People get on me for saying he is the greatest Redskin of the last 10 years. Name someone better. I allready said Green didn;t count. The only ones that comes to mind right now are Steven Davis and Jon Jansen. Who else played as well, and accomplished as much as Smoot? That is actually more of a reflection on how sorry this franchise has been rather than Smoot's greatnes.. He has played with the most heart of anyone 9more than Champ), and he didn;t get burned as often as Champ.
Otherwise, we haven;t hadf a great qb. Portis was a dissapointment last year to say the least. Coles wasn't here long enough, and he has been an ass since the end of the season. We haven't had a dlineman worth anything except for Griffin, but he needs to stay longer. Lavar has lost more games for us than he has won, and missed an entire season, and gotten in a fight with the owner. Champ acted like an ass once his contract was up.

I say it is a horrible loss, and I am so upset because he isnt the only one we have lost. We have also lost our mlb (no replacement in sight), and we have downgraded at wr from Gardner and Coles to Patten and Moss. We still don;t have a pass-rusher who can play in situations other than 3rd@long, and we don't have a wr over 5-11 on the roster. Even with the draft coming up, we will still have some gaping holes.

I hope that is a better respons. Sorry for the previous rant.


portis didnt have a line and he still got over 1,300 so what are you saying

[IndianBaller27]

Smoot reminds me of Charles woodson what do you think about that? Do you think the raiders should let him go???
off-topic, but no, I think they should keep him.

[BurgundyNGold]

Smoot reminds me of Charles woodson what do you think about that? Do you think the raiders should let him go???
You're kidding right? In what universe does Smoot equate to Charles Woodson? Oh, and the answer to your question is yes. Yes, you should. To us.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

portis didnt have a line and he still got over 1,300 so what are you saying
he had only 3.8 ypc and only 5 tds. that is disappointing, but im not a portis hater though, thats my boy.

watch snyder release him or something

[IndianBaller27]

he had only 3.8 ypc and only 5 tds. that is disappointing, but im not a portis hater though, thats my boy.

watch snyder release him or something
sigh..... zone-blocking

[skinslover]

stats dont mean everything akh. bruce took like 6 seconds to touch the qb. smoot gave him those 6 seconds

has smoot even tackled a qb in his career

[IndianBaller27]

has smoot even tackled a qb in his career
first of all... yes
second... HES A CB!

How many picks did Bruce Smith have?

[silveranblack]

I think smoot can compare with charles woodson, I also think that portis is one of the elite backs in the NFC I think the best back in the NFC would be between sean alexander, brian westbrook, The afc best is curtis martin or lamont jordan.

[BurgundyNGold]

I think smoot can compare with charles woodson, I also think that portis is one of the elite backs in the NFC I think the best back in the NFC would be between sean alexander, brian westbrook, The afc best is curtis martin or lamont jordan.
OK, you are entitled to your opinion. I am not getting into this with you... beyond the following:

If you honestly think that Lamont freakin' Jordan rates atop the AFC RBs, then you are currently in a recently painteted house and should open all of the windows... NOW. Oh, and, with the exception of TO, there is not an Eagle on that team who is not a product of the system. Good for the Iggles, bad for your position.

Bryant Westbrook.... sheeesh. Now I can see how you think Smoot with his zippy pro bowls can stack up against one of the top 3-5 CBs in the league.

[IndianBaller27]

I think smoot can compare with charles woodson, I also think that portis is one of the elite backs in the NFC I think the best back in the NFC would be between sean alexander, brian westbrook, The afc best is curtis martin or lamont jordan.
Lamont Jordan??? HAHAHAHAHA

[akhhorus]

What happened akh? Cat gotcha toungue? :D j/p

No, sorry..making dinner...more important than repeating myself again and again.

[silveranblack]

What lamont is awork horse he is going to surprise evryone come next season just watch game film on the guy, The best RB is hands down curtis martin.

[akhhorus]

i knew something was brewing when IB im'ed me telling me him and YS teamed up and killed akh. i didnt expect a civil conversation though, i kinda pictured a huge swing from the thread topic.

I would respond, but the Eagle doesnt hunt flies.

[akhhorus]

OK, you are entitled to your opinion. I am not getting into this with you... beyond the following:

If you honestly think that Lamont freakin' Jordan rates atop the AFC RBs, then you are currently in a recently painteted house and should open all of the windows... NOW. Oh, and, with the exception of TO, there is not an Eagle on that team who is not a product of the system. Good for the Iggles, bad for your position.

Bryant Westbrook.... sheeesh. Now I can see how you think Smoot with his zippy pro bowls can stack up against one of the top 3-5 CBs in the league.

Lamont Jordan is an intriguting back, but he hasnt shown anything to be consider a top back in his division, much less conference.

[IndianBaller27]

No, sorry..making dinner...more important than repeating myself again and again.
YOU WERE ACTUALLY, (gulp) OFF THE COMPUTER???

[IMALILTEAPOT]

YOU WERE ACTUALLY, (gulp) OFF THE COMPUTER???
:lol1:

[silveranblack]

Does evryone honestly think that charles woodson is one of the top 3 at cb in the nfl right now.

[akhhorus]

I didn't say that Ryan

So you guys just declared victory because I left? This must have been like a Major League Team who put in the scrubs when playing the Single A team and the Single A team declaring it a "Good victory"

[IndianBaller27]

So you guys just declared victory because I left? This must have been like a Major League Team who put in the scrubs when playing the Single A team and the Single A team declaring it a "Good victory"
Well, it's not very often that you leave your computer.

[akhhorus]

Well, it's not very often that you leave your computer.

Im writing my thesis, Im writing about 12 hours a day now.

[silveranblack]

Charles woodson top 3 "yes/No"

[whitskins]

Charles woodson top 3 "yes/No"

No.

Will you stop hijacking threads and talking about stupid raiders crap "yes/No"?

[IMALILTEAPOT]

Charles woodson top 3 "yes/No"
not now
hes not as explosive as he was before

[akhhorus]

Charles woodson top 3 "yes/No"

Nope. Not in awhile.

[silveranblack]

That is a little harsh I can tell i'm not wanted here.

[silveranblack]

What do you think of philip buchanon.

[IndianBaller27]

That is a little harsh I can tell i'm not wanted here.
no..... no one could have made that connection!

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

That is a little harsh I can tell i'm not wanted here.
Cherokee - Redskins
Navajo - NFL

[akhhorus]

What do you think of philip buchanon.

Stop. Ill make you an official raiders thread where you can post your stuff.

[LATrueRedskin]

Charles woodson top 3 "yes/No"

I find it funny how you "demand" answers from us now.

[silveranblack]

Thanks akkhours

[akhhorus]

Thanks akkhours

You're welcome..Go play in that sandbox.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

You're welcome..Go play in that sandbox.
hahahah

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Thanks akkhours
OMG... he spelled his name wrong.... Behold the fury.....

[silveranblack]

Whats with that.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Whats with that.
akhhorus is very sensitive when it comes to his screen name.

[LATrueRedskin]

Im writing my thesis, Im writing about 12 hours a day now.

I'm expecting a posted copy when it's completed. :D

[IowaSkinsFan]

I saw the contract numbers compared between the Vikings and Redskins and Smoot got $300 K more in SB and has more money earned in the first three years than what we were offering. Pretty small in NFL dollar terms.

I salute the FO and Joe for being disciplined and sticking to their guns.

[akhhorus]

I'm expecting a posted copy when it's completed. :D

Right now, im on page 142. One chapter left.

[LATrueRedskin]

I saw the contract numbers compared between the Vikings and Redskins and Smoot got $300 K more in SB and has more money earned in the first three years than what we were offering. Pretty small in NFL dollar terms.

I salute the FO and Joe for being disciplined and sticking to their guns.

And I like how Smoot changed from "staying with the Redskins if the deal was within $2 million" to "I let the Redskins match any offer."

[IowaSkinsFan]

Right now, im on page 142. One chapter left.

So that's why your only posting 50 times a day as opposed to the normal 100?

:D

[akhhorus]

So that's why your only posting 50 times a day as opposed to the normal 100?

:D

You nailed it!

[LATrueRedskin]

Right now, im on page 142. One chapter left.

Well done.

[Beast56Redskin]

I saw the contract numbers compared between the Vikings and Redskins and Smoot got $300 K more in SB and has more money earned in the first three years than what we were offering. Pretty small in NFL dollar terms.

I salute the FO and Joe for being disciplined and sticking to their guns.


it Was the hardest loss of my career as a redskins fan. nothing can really describe the pit i felt after losing smoot, who in recent days looked resignable. in fact he was. the contract differences were negligable, it seems. smoot simply decided he wanted to go. goodby fred. i miss you already. enjoy the winter.

as for joe, danny and company, i applaud your effort, standing up to doubters who thought you couldnt avoid dropping some cash this year on a new hot rod. they now holler at you for not spending enough. lets start stockpiling talent. maybe not trade a draft pick for 06 unless its a rediculous steal. i see a bright future with this idea. coach em up gibbs. just dont read the newspaper.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Right now, im on page 142. One chapter left.
Thesis Theme?

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

And I like how Smoot changed from "staying with the Redskins if the deal was within $2 million" to "I let the Redskins match any offer."
yeah.... lol. How things change....

[colkurtz]

Smoot. Played with passion, a pretty good #2 CB. Played above his size. I lilked his non-stop mouth, because he had fire in his belly.

Drank the kool-aide from Champ and went over to the Vikings for a few hundred thousand more than the 'skins generous offer. That's the land of FA.
Perhaps he wanted to go to a true contender team vs. a team with perpetual "promise"?????

I hope he has a good ride with the Vikings (except when they play the Redskins).

Oh, and if he starts to bad-mouth the 'skins ------------he'll be dead to me, like Mr. Bailey and Mr. Coles.

Adios. NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[akhhorus]

Thesis Theme?

13th Century English Political Development and its long term effects on the development of modern democracy.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

13th Century English Political Development and its long term effects on the development of modern democracy.
If you have doubts, don't hesitate to ask.... :D

Congrats! Nice Job.

Master?

[akhhorus]

If you have doubts, don't hesitate to ask.... :D

Congrats! Nice Job.

Master?

Yep, MA thesis.

[akhhorus]

I'm expecting a posted copy when it's completed. :D

I would love to, but its at 43,058 words right now. I think thats over the limit.

[2Cooley]

well he that besides money the other reason he left was he wanted to play in the postseason.....If you could have just given us 2 more years cause after this year we will be the real deal