the godforsook scenario of utter despair

[thickskin]

maybe someone's posed this question already, but i like to think only i would have the fear and loathing to come up with such a godawful scenario: if you had to choose right now, one's gone, one runs the shebang, do you take gibbs or gw?

[redskin_rich]

Gibbs...I trust he would hire another great Defensive coach or promote Blache.

[whitskins]

No question... Gibbs. Williams has already been a head coach and failed. I hope he takes over for Gibbs when he retires but I wouldn't fully trust him with our franchise right now. Gibbs needs to remake this team in his image so no way would I choose anyone but him.

[shamrok999]

Thats a silly question...Gibbs of course. GW failed in Buff and Gibbs knows what it is like to win a SB

[CNYSkinFan]

maybe someone's posed this question already, but i like to think only i would have the fear and loathing to come up with such a godawful scenario: if you had to choose right now, one's gone, one runs the shebang, do you take gibbs or gw?

I refuse to speculate on this because there is no likelyhood of this ever happening.

[thickskin]

I refuse to speculate on this because there is no likelyhood of this ever happening.

lol. that's the spirit. won't touch the negative hypothetical even in the off season.

[CNYSkinFan]

lol. that's the spirit. won't touch the negative hypothetical even in the off season.

Hey I am a homer sometimes what can i say.

[Jero]

Good grief why why why?? Nothing personal, but let's do the math. Greg Williams is a great defensive coach who failed in his first head coaching stint with the Bills. Joe Gibbs has won three world championships. When you say 'run the whole shebang' are you talking about coach, GM, etc? Because if you are, i would like to see us get a good GM to help Gibbs out. But if you aren't, i'd take Gibbs to run this team over Williams anyday.

[joethefan]

History has tought me to learn and admire and honor the Past that Gibbs has given us...esp since I lived through it......

Gotta love Gibbs.

[guinness4health]

i think i would have to say g.williams for one reason only age.

i think that the ideal situation would be gibbs plays out his contact (wins another superbowl) retires from coaching...mores up to the front office (can someone say GM) and g. williams takes over as the head coach.

[Meatsnack]

Gibbs = HOF, in my mind the greatest head coach on football history.

Williams = the best DC in the game today, got run out of Buffalo

This is a no contest. With absolutely no shame to Williams. He awesome. But he's no Gibbs.

If Gibbs retires at the end of his contract and Gregg is not around, we can get Marvin from Cinci. He will be out of a job by then. I love Marvin, but I think Cinci's problems go deeper than the head coach.

[BurgundyNGold]

maybe someone's posed this question already, but i like to think only i would have the fear and loathing to come up with such a godawful scenario: if you had to choose right now, one's gone, one runs the shebang, do you take gibbs or gw?
Gibbs. He's got the rings and the heart of the city. GW hasn't proven he can be an effective head coach yet.

[Ohiofan]

As long as we are asking silly hypothetical question, who would you keep Sonny Jurgenson or Patrick Ramsey?

[smoak]

I said Gibbs so fast that I didn't bother to read the choices. I would take Gibbs over any coach out there including a zombie Lombardi.

[BurgundyNGold]

As long as we are asking silly hypothetical question, who would you keep Sonny Jurgenson or Patrick Ramsey?
What's sad is I think Sonny might have more mobility. :lol1:

[CowboyKiller#9]

In Gibbs We Trust!!!!!!

[BIGSEF3]

i interpreted the question as, "would you rather have williams coach the defense, or gibbs coach the offense."

in that scenario, i would also take gibbs, but it would be a hard decision. honestly, for me, it came down to this: if williams leaves, blanche could probably take over the defense and do pretty darn good. if gibbs left, we have NO ONE on our offensive coaching staff that i would trust to do more than what they are doing now. and i wouldnt want to bring someone in new. if williams left, and we promoted blanche, atleast our defensive players would stay in the same system. if gibbs left, and his replacement wasnt a gibbs clone, half our offensive roster would probably have to turn over and that wouldnt be good for anyone.

[Wild Bore]

I would take Gibbs. No question.

To put this hypothetical question in focus: Gibbs had a great defensive coordinator during the whole first era. There was no one better than Pettibon. But Pettibon failed big time when he got the big job, kinda like GW already has.

Great OC and great DC do not necessarily make great (or even ordinary) head coaches.

[thickskin]

I would take Gibbs. No question.

To put this hypothetical question in focus: Gibbs had a great defensive coordinator during the whole first era. There was no one better than Pettibon. But Pettibon failed big time when he got the big job, kinda like GW already has.

Great OC and great DC do not necessarily make great (or even ordinary) head coaches.

what was our d like back then? which years were the best and why? the first one i really remember is the 92 championship team, with dg shutting down the opponents' best wideout, mann getting pressure, wilbur, brad edwards, gouvea. but i didn't know much about sets and styles back then.

[redskin_rich]

what was our d like back then? which years were the best and why? the first one i really remember is the 92 championship team, with dg shutting down the opponents' best wideout, mann getting pressure, wilbur, brad edwards, gouvea. but i didn't know much about sets and styles back then.
The Skins always had a good defense under Petitbone, not dominate but very good. The '91-'92 team had 3 shut outs in the reg season. Bone didn't blitz as much as teams do now and he used a lot of prevent, which I don't care for. He also always had good pass rushing ends and good tackles to clog up the middle.

[GoDannyBoy]

As long as we are asking silly hypothetical question, who would you keep Sonny Jurgenson or Patrick Ramsey?


Sonny! While were at it! I bet he still has some zing to his passes and can still run as fast as Ram!

[cmdlost29]

Gibbs is the best coach who ever coached the game, in my opinion. You do not remove the best coach for a great cordinator until it is proven the game has passed the coach by. This might happen if we have another losing few years over the next couple seasons but until I see it, I would want no other man in charge of my #1 favorite and loved sports team run by another person in the history of the game or any other.

:honor: We are really blessed to have Gibbs as our football coach right now :honor:

[BandWagon]

I'd vote for Gibbs, but before this "Williams can't be a head coach" stuff gets too carried away just remember similar things were said about someone now residing in the Boston area....hint...they were in Cleveland at the time....

[BandWagon]

Let's be careful here...Petitbon inheritated a worn out and old team and was not given the opportunity to rebuild. We really have no idea what kind of head coach he would have/could have been.

I would take Gibbs. No question.

To put this hypothetical question in focus: Gibbs had a great defensive coordinator during the whole first era. There was no one better than Pettibon. But Pettibon failed big time when he got the big job, kinda like GW already has.

Great OC and great DC do not necessarily make great (or even ordinary) head coaches.

[redskin_rich]

Let's be careful here...Petitbon inheritated a worn out and old team and was not given the opportunity to rebuild. We really have no idea what kind of head coach he would have/could have been.
I agree Bandwagon, Ryp got hurt in the 2nd game, the team as a whole was old and our best defensive player from the year before(Wilbur Marshall) was gone.

[BandWagon]

I agree Bandwagon, Ryp got hurt in the 2nd game, the team as a whole was old and our best defensive player from the year before(Wilbur Marshall) was gone.

Yep. The front office started a massive exodus in the offseason. Richie got caught up in a series of unfortunate circumstances and was not able to benefit on the backend of it.

[Wild Bore]

Let's be careful here...Petitbon inheritated a worn out and old team and was not given the opportunity to rebuild. We really have no idea what kind of head coach he would have/could have been.

Agree and disagree. Pettibon certainly was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I will agree with that. You don't simply slide in to replace a HOF coach who was beloved like Gibbs was.

Where Pettibon failed was in his leadership, not his schemes. That is the difference between a great coodinator and a great headcoach. As the 1993 season progressed badly, he was not able to rally the team and the city and he fought with the press. The resulting chaos was precisely why he was not given the "opportunity" to rebuild.

Now, compare that to Gibbs this past season. Lousy season. Yet Gibbs somehow managed to hold it together and the players still want to play for him and think we are moving in the right direction, as does the front office and most of the fans. There is something special in his leadership.

The same thing happened in the 1981 season, his first in Washington, lousy season, but he managed to hold it together then as well.

In fact, I would go so far to say that Gibbs inherited worn out teams as well. He was able to lead thru the adversity, and as such, will be given time to rebuild.