Official 2005 NFL [non-Redskins] Draft Thread

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[thomas crown]

Question. Do you think we can move up to three by giving up #9 and Gardner for the browns #3. Then we can solidify M. Williams and still have the 25th pick. We can also throw in a pick from next year. Then we can trade down from 25 into the second round and still end up with decent corner like B. McFadden in the second. What do you guys think. Cleveland wants to trade that pick big time, according to the radio. I think this could work. What do you guys think.

[garyclark84]

I think it would take more than just Rod to move up that far. However, the Titans might be dumb enough to do it. If we can move up without giving up #25, i am all for it, but don't give those 2 picks away.

[skinfanatic]

no one above us will take our 9 and gardner. never in a million years. aint happening. wed have to throw in more. it would be great, but not gonna happen. also, this is more of a draft forum threat and just skins.

[BurgundyNGold]

no one above us will take our 9 and gardner. never in a million years. aint happening. wed have to throw in more. it would be great, but not gonna happen. also, this is more of a draft forum threat and just skins.
Why does Gardner have to be so worthless!

[SkinsRock36]

I know we have a thread like this but as of now, real quick who do this skins take?

-I thought it would be "Pacman" But I believe its Carlos Rodgers. Should be interesting. Lets all enjoy boys! :beer:

[BurgundyNGold]

Please don;t do one for 10 minute to go :D

[SkinsRock36]

Please don;t do one for 10 minute to go :D

Haha.

[redwolf1218]

Question. Do you think we can move up to three by giving up #9 and Gardner for the browns #3. Then we can solidify M. Williams and still have the 25th pick. We can also throw in a pick from next year. Then we can trade down from 25 into the second round and still end up with decent corner like B. McFadden in the second. What do you guys think. Cleveland wants to trade that pick big time, according to the radio. I think this could work. What do you guys think.
no. i think the precedent has been set for much more value than that in that kind of move. you'd have to give up your 1, your 2, and next years 1 to get up there.

please dont let this happen!

why de-value the trade by adding Gardner?

[SkinsASchamps]

It could be 2 hours before we know who we will have at 9...

[LATrueRedskin]

There's already a number of threads on this.

[CarMike]

Merged! From here on out keep it here or it will get deleted. No questions asked.

[techskinsfan]

lets get this started

[Skinzaholic]

No way Tennessee trades their pick... they really want Rolle.

[Skinzaholic]

That was predictable. Everyone knew they would pick Smith ... now do they trade him or not?

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Alex Smith to 49ers, great!

[RoanokeSkin]

That was one of the most important picks for me, because it means we didnt give up everything to pick #1.

[Bigskinbauer]

now miami we better not trade up

they are talking to someone with all that time!

OMG!

[Skinzaholic]

49ers report they will keep Alex Smith... no trade

[Bigskinbauer]

That was one of the most important picks for me, because it means we didnt give up everything to pick #1.
i think we were more likely to trade for number 2 so lets keep our fingers crossed!

I don't think it will happen

[Bigskinbauer]

torry holt has said like 2 words the hole time, y is he on the show

[PennSkinsFan]

Stay strong Miami!!!! Turn down the Redskins!

[Skinzaholic]

Miami takes Ronnie Brown.

[PennSkinsFan]

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Cleveland wants Edwards bad. We dodged a bullet!

[PennSkinsFan]

I think our interest in Edwards was a smokescreen

[LATrueRedskin]

Good deal!

[techskinsfan]

no surprises yet

[lakeskin]

Cleveland's pick will be the most interesting.

[LATrueRedskin]

I think our interest in Edwards was a smokescreen

I thought that too. I was unsure if us trading up was a smokescreen, though. I thought if we traded up, we would get Mike Williams instead.

[Skinzaholic]

Cleveland is stockpiling some massive talent on Offense ...

[sknz2856]

So far no trade for us...I like it.

[Santheb]

YES! Not another Michigan receiver for us!

[Skinzaholic]

Winslow vs. Edwards for Prima Donna of the year! Mighty get messy in the Dog Pound.

[PennSkinsFan]

Thank God! Thank you Cleveland!!!!!

[sdredskinsfan]

Chicago is the first team thus far to be rumored to be serious about taking M. Williams.

[lakeskin]

Take Cedric Benson Chicago. U dont need a Mushin clone.

[Skinzaholic]

Chicago is the first team thus far to be rumored to be serious about taking M. Williams.

I think that is what they will do. :cry:

[sdredskinsfan]

I think that is what they will do. :cry:

I doubt MW will fall to us. Of course, I'm not a big MW supporter to begin with. But, I would think that the bears have already spent money on the WR position by signing Muhammed. If I were them, I would take either Benson, or C. Williams.

[Santheb]

Way To Go Chicago!!!!

[Skinzaholic]

Love to see the emotion on Cedric. He will be good in Chicago!

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

good, good, good. going as planned thus far.

[sdredskinsfan]

Love to see the emotion on Cedric. He will be good in Chicago!


No cryin yet for you. MW still on the board.

I'm a lil surprised there have been no trades yet. I'm guessing that teams think it is a weak draft. Doesn't bode well for our (my) hopes of trading down. We'll see how it goes though. By the way, I've been on the west coast for the past 14 years, and it still feels weird at times to watch sporting events so early.

[techskinsfan]

damn if the draft doenst take forrrevvvver

[Skinzaholic]

No cryin yet for you. MW still on the board.

I'm a lil surprised there have been no trades yet. I'm guessing that teams think it is a weak draft. Doesn't bode well for our (my) hopes of trading down. We'll see how it goes though. By the way, I've been on the west coast for the past 14 years, and it still feels weird at times to watch sporting events so early.

I know what you mean. Lived in SD for a year and never did adjust to football at 9 am.

[Santheb]

Bucs are taking Cadillac!

ONLY THREE PICKS LEFT!

[sdredskinsfan]

Looks like C. Williams. Good news so far for us.

[sdredskinsfan]

Good pick for the Bucs.

[Santheb]

WOW suprise there.

[Skinzaholic]

Wow! I was sure Tenn would take Rolle.

[lakeskin]

And now the moment of truth. Williamson or Williams?

[Santheb]

Williamson :(

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

hmmmm....bit of a switch there. i thought the titans would take rolle. i think the vikes take williamson, cards take rolle and skins take williams.

[ZackMills]

hmmmm....bit of a switch there. i thought the titans would take rolle. i think the vikes take williamson, cards take rolle and skins take williams.
only in a perfect world

[lakeskin]

...Just had an ML Carr flashback.

[Santheb]

Yes!!

We Get Mike Williams

Holy Cow

[lakeskin]

WOOOOT!!!!

Minny fans pretty excited about that pick... :lol1:

[Skinzaholic]

Viking fans didnt seem over joyed at that pick.

[Skinzaholic]

Yes!!

We Get Mike Williams

Holy Cow

Im not so sure Arizona doesnt trade down for a MW seeker.

[lakeskin]

Viking fans didnt seem over joyed at that pick.

They didnt even boo. They were like, who?

[Santheb]

Im not so sure Arizona doesnt trade down for a MW seeker.

Antrell Rolle.

[Santheb]

Told you.

[Shawnb555]

So Mike Williams Aaron Rogers or Carlos Rogers I cant take this tention much longer

[Skinzaholic]

Man does Aaron Rodgers look depressed.

[Redskinfan28]

Why not Mike Williams???????? :rolleyes:

[Shawnb555]

Ill be very angery if dallas picks MW

[EberKain]

maybe he will fall to 25 :)

[Santheb]

W T F \

W T F

[smoot]

this doesnt make sense, theres got to be a trade

[redskin_rich]

maybe he will fall to 25 :)
Nope, the Lions took MW.

[EberKain]

Nope, the Lions took MW.

Yep, scrath that idea...

[3Taylor6]

why didnt we take MW??????

[PyroGenic]

why didnt we take MW??????

i felt the same way when we didn't take KW2... but this is kinda different, I dunno. Gibbs knows what hes doing i hope.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

hey did pacman's girlfriend flash him or something when he got picked?

[GolfFreak]

Is Derick Johnson still on the board? Carolina just took Davis. They announced him as a LB not a saftey.

[LATrueRedskin]

Boy, the Chiefs got a steal with Derrick Johnson.

[techskinsfan]

damn there goes pollack i really wanted him at 25...i thought hed be real good...damn marvin lewis

[LavarLeap2003]

i hope we get Mark Clayton or Roddy White...we might go DE with the #25th pick

[sdredskinsfan]

i hope we get Mark Clayton or Roddy White...we might go DE with the #25th pick


Whoa. Thinking exact same thing.

[sdredskinsfan]

I'm betting the Vikes take either Spears or E. James.

[bgforever]

I'm betting the Vikes take either Spears or E. James.

The more DL that disappear, the more likely we take Miller.

[lakeskin]

Erasmus James on that turf? I smell a very short career for that guy.

[smoot]

Erasmus James on that turf? I smell a very short career for that guy.
or a great one, the turf will help his stats alot

[sdredskinsfan]

I'm surprised that no one on ESPN (or in here, for that matter) seems to be talking about the lack of trades.

[bgforever]

Guess who has good TE's on their roster already?

The teams picking above us as of now, that leads me to believe, its MIller time.

[sdredskinsfan]

Interesting pick by rams. I guess they wanted the best player available v. picking up a need. I would have thought they'd go defense.

[sdredskinsfan]

Erasmus James on that turf? I smell a very short career for that guy.

I'm a lil jealous, too, that they got James instead of us. :)

[lakeskin]

or a great one, the turf will help his stats alot

The guy is injury prone with bad knees. I think hed rather have the grass...def no pun intended.

[bgforever]

The guy is injury prone with bad knees. I think hed rather have the grass...def no pun intended.

hmm. the smell of some good grass, nothing like it in the world.

James was my trump, but the % weren't there. Too many needing defense ahead of us, to leave us a DE this round.

[sdredskinsfan]

Sigh.......dallass seems like their gonna have a good d this year with ware and spears now on board.

[frankez99]

Dallas is having a scary-good draft....getting 2 of the 3 players they desperately targeted....damn..

[smoot]

The guy is injury prone with bad knees. I think hed rather have the grass...def no pun intended.
i know that he's injury prone but the turf will definitly help his speed

[Santheb]

Crap.

[LATrueRedskin]

There goes Jones.

[inevitable]

Ah well Matt Jones is gone. time to break open the bottle

[techskinsfan]

wow

[frankez99]

wow

wow is right...Jags didn't need that pick (according the the "experts")...so it was kind of out of place...

I bet it shook up a lot of teams draft boards!

I'm glad we didn't draft him though...no with his lack of a position when we desperately need positional players....

[ImmortalDragon]

O_o

[smoot]

O_o
:guillo:

[sdredskinsfan]

If ravens offense continues to be stagnant with mason and now clayton added, then boller can start thinking about retirement plans.

[Skinz4lyfe]

:drunker: No Mike Williams or Matt Jones?!? Oh boy, please don't draft Heath Miller with our next pick!!!

[sdredskinsfan]

Can you imagine how distraught/embarassed Rodgers will feel if neither gb or we select him? Really hoping gb selects Rodgers though.

[3Taylor6]

jason campbell!!!!

[Redskinfan28]

How can anyone possibly defend Joe Gibbs today? Seriously, this is really the first time I am having doubts of the wisdom of his return.

Patrick Ramsey has to be sick.

[ImmortalDragon]

How can anyone possibly defend Joe Gibbs today? Seriously, this is really the first time I am having doubts of the wisdom of his return.

Patrick Ramsey has to be sick.
:banghead:

[lakeskin]

Nice pick by Atlanta. QB needs better targets lets go get him one. Pretty good idea.

[lakeskin]

i know that he's injury prone but the turf will definitly help his speed

Kinda hard to run when ur in the hospital bed.

[Skaggsrules]

I think Pitt will go with Heath Miller

[LATrueRedskin]

I think Pitt will go with Heath Miller

They did. What a freaking steal.

[lakeskin]

Another big target for Big Ben. Helping out there QB. Awww, how nice.

[WinnpegSkinsFan]

Pitt did great with this move. While we get Jason Campbell. I'd have much preferred Miller or Roddy White to Campbell. Sometimes it hurts to be a Skins fan.

[LATrueRedskin]

The Patriots continue to add depth.

[VaIgglesFan]

And the Iggles pick up BabySapp from USC

DT Mike Patterson (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/418377)

A bit undersized, only 5'11", but a solid, quick, and strong DT...bye bye Simon (guess I'll need to get a new jersey).

I'm interested to see what they do with the #35, I'm betting an OL, with Runyan (definitely) and Thomas (probably) gone after this season.

[VaIgglesFan]

Ok, so I was wrong not OL, but a WR.

WR Reggie Brown (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/407234)

Not super big or fast, but sounds like he's good on the intermediate routes and in the slot...so this time its, bye bye FredEx.

One more 2nd round pick and two #3's, my guess is at least one is traded away, possibly, if rumors are true, one of the 3rd rounders go Buffalo for Travis Henry. I'll try this again, 2nd rounder will probably be OL (although LB is a possibility).

[Skins Guy]

hey what round do u guys think clarrett will be gone in?

[2Cooley]

bye bye tuck

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

hey what round do u guys think clarrett will be gone in?
im going to say.....3rd round.

:)

we will see just how much of a genius mike shananah really is with that pick.

[ZackMills]

im going to say.....3rd round.

:)

we will see just how much of a genius mike shananah really is with that pick.

We'll Clarett is guaranteed 1000 yards at some point in his career with Denver

[Skins Guy]

i hate denver, but i like clarett, im happy for him...

[LATrueRedskin]

My WORD the Ravens are stacked. Rolle, Mason, Mark Clayton, and Dan Cody along with their original roster.

EDIT: And Clarett should be on his knees thanking his Lord right now.

[techskinsfan]

My WORD the Ravens are stacked. Rolle, Mason, Mark Clayton, and Dan Cody along with their original roster.

EDIT: And Clarett should be on his knees thanking his Lord right now.
yea the ravens had a good draft and the broncos had a poor one...clarett couldnt have gotten luckier...denver is the best place he coulda gone...u knwo what i wish that guy the best he doesnt seem like a terrible person, ran into some problems then called the university on it...half his fault half osu's...america is about 2nd chances so dont screw it up man

[ChiefPowhatan17]

the cards had an incredible draft with JJ Arrington, Antrel Rolle, Eric Green, and Darryl Blackstock. Man they are gonna be a lot better...

[Redskinfan28]

Robert McCune - good pick in the 5th.

[NCskinsfanatic]

So whos got the stats on McCune?

[Jimreaper007]

The kid is Army reserve so not only can he hit...he can kill.

Mature at 26 and a very good pick for the Skins. I am sure he will not have a problem with the team concept.

[Ramsey2Moss]

the cards had an incredible draft with JJ Arrington, Antrel Rolle, Eric Green, and Darryl Blackstock. Man they are gonna be a lot better...
Yeah. That game against them is starting to worry me...
Oh yeah. They have Kurt Warner at QB. No problem :).

[ph33rtheD]

they also got elton brown.....