The CryBaby Thread

[Axegrinder]

I opened this thread for all of the name callers and disrespectful posters.
If you plan on dissing another members opinion,please post it in here.
I personally don't want your childish behavior overrunning this great site.
If you have a problem with this opinion....Post it in here!

[PyroGenic]

I opened this thread for all of the name callers and disrespectful posters.
If you plan on dissing another members opinion,please post it in here.
I personally don't want your childish behavior overrunning this great site.
If you have a problem with this opinion....Post it in here!

rawr

:cry:

[Axegrinder]

Good job Pyro!
Now head back over to the Draft thread.

[BigCountry]

What's the point, I don't see a reason to gon licing now that Mike Williams isn't going to be a Redskins :rolleyes:

[Axegrinder]

Things have settled down a bit,but we still have another pick to argue about today.
The door to this thread is left ajar!

[LavarLeap2003]

:cry:

[Skinz4lyfe]

:devil2: Matt Jones to Jacksonville. Okay now I'm pi$$ed!!!

[lakeskin]

:cry:

[redskin_rich]

:cry: Whaaaaaaa!




:cry: Whaaaaaaa!




Ok, thats better, where's my drink?

[ZackMills]

:banghead: Gibbs :banghead: must go



SNYDER, THROW YOUR MONEY AROUND TO GET A GM THAT HAS AN ABSOLUTE CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CarMike]

Are you available? :rolleyes:

[Skinz4lyfe]

This is not a good draft at all!!! First we pass on Mike Williams to get Carlos Rogers. Rogers will be good but not worth passing on Mike Williams. Then we pick a QB after we state that Ramsey is our future?!?! WTF!!!! What gives?

[CarMike]

This is not a good draft at all!!! First we pass on Mike Williams to get Carlos Rogers. Rogers will be good but not worth passing on Mike Williams. Then we pick a QB after we state that Ramsey is our future?!?! WTF!!!! What gives?

How do we know that Rogers won't be better than Williams?

We need to be rational here. We needed a CB more than a WR.

[ImmortalDragon]

I don't see how anyone could be happy with this draft. We need Heath Miller much more than a QB.

[rocky12]

The campbell pick makes me think we aren't worried about winning immediately. H. Miller would have been a pick that made our team better right away

[bgforever]

How do we know that Rogers won't be better than Williams?

We need to be rational here. We needed a CB more than a WR.

that part I will never argue with.

I do have to admit, I just didn't figure on a QB at #25, but then what the hell do I know. I get to watch and if Patrick lets Campbell unseat him by out playing him and doing better, then Campbell deserves it as much as Pat took it from Brunell.

Now it is clearer why Musgrave is around. His work with Leftwitch was briliiant.

[KMDeMuth]

:devil2: Matt Jones to Jacksonville. Okay now I'm pi$$ed!!!

agreed, atleast iggles, cowgirls and girly men didnt get him, that would have pissed me off beyond belief. can watch him grow and adjust now and wont be hurting us!

[redskifreak]

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[Skinz4lyfe]

How do we know that Rogers won't be better than Williams?

We need to be rational here. We needed a CB more than a WR.

I can't argue there either but did Detroit need him? Look at their receivers now: Rogers, Roy and Mike Williams. Sometimes you need to throw caution to the wind to say this guy has tremendous ability and we're selecting him over our initial need. Besides, if we're drafting needs then why the hell do we draft a QB @ #25? We need a GM! We could have still gotten a decent CB w/the #25 pick and been alright. I'm not feeling good about this one at all.

[inevitable]

IM SERIOSULY SUPRISED WE DIDNT TRADE EVERY PICK WE HAVE TILL 2007 SO WE COULD GET R. BROWN AND CADILLAC. THEN WE COULD HAVE THE ENTIRE AUBURN TEAM PLAY FOR US

the only person from auburn im wishing for right now is Tommy Tuberville

get gibsy out

[whitskins]

I'm very disappointed with this draft, I feel like Rogers will be an excellent player for us but I hate passing on Williams and taking Campbell. I'm upset but we'll see how our team gets it done on the field...

[flave1969]

Tonight I am ashamed too be part of this board.

No balance.

No objectivity.

No dignity.

No connection to the history of this team.

People are calling each other names, calling the best coach we ever had names, calling for his head after one season.

I suggest you go back and read about how George Allen took a perennial loser for 20 years and made them winners.

I suggest you go back and read about how Joe Gibbs harnessed a wayward team, gave it a gameplan and had one losing in twelve years.

We have one appearence in the playoffs in twelve years, at least I see a man who knows the way he wants to play and knows the kind of players he wants.

He is not a man who is afraid to face you and talk to you, yet you cannot even treat him with respct.

I have seen the words insanity, liar, idiot all attached to Joe Gibbs, he is none of these things. He may well be struggling to adapt to the new NFL but he is none of the above.

[ImmortalDragon]

I can't argue there either but did Detroit need him? Look at their receivers now: Rogers, Roy and Mike Williams. Sometimes you need to throw caution to the wind to say this guy has tremendous ability and we're selecting him over our initial need. Besides, if we're drafting needs then why the hell do we draft a QB @ #25? We need a GM! We could have still gotten a decent CB w/the #25 pick and been alright. I'm not feeling good about this one at all.
They need him, Charles Rogers is a 3rd year rookie.

[whitskins]

Tonight I am ashamed too be part of this board.

No balance.

No objectivity.

No dignity.

No connection to the history of this team.

People are calling each other names, calling the best coach we ever had names, calling for his head after one season.

I suggest you go back and read about how George Allen took a perennial loser for 20 years and made them winners.

I suggest you go back and read about how Joe Gibbs harnessed a wayward team, gave it a gameplan and had one losing in twelve years.

We have one appearence in the playoffs in twelve years, at least I see a man who knows the way he wants to play and knows the kind of players he wants.

He is not a man who is afraid to face you and talk to you, yet you cannot even treat him with respct.

I have seen the words insanity, liar, idiot all attached to Joe Gibbs, he is none of these things. He may well be struggling to adapt to the new NFL but he is none of the above.

This is the best post I've read today, thank you for saying it.

I'm bummed out by this draft but we won't know how it really turned out until we see these guys on the field. If Jason Campbell turns into a Pro Bowler then many people will wish they had behaved with more class on this board and elsewhere with regards to our team.

I'm disappointed with our draft but I'm also disappointed to read a lot of the garbage I've seen posted here. We all need to detox because for the last several years our offseasons have convinced us we're Super Bowl contenders and we were dead wrong every time. So let's let these players try to get it done on the field and then see what happens. But some people here need to check themselves ASAP and tone it down because you're embarrassing yourselves.

[Aurej]

If Jason Campbell becomes a Pro Bowler I'll eat a house. I've seen a few of his college games and even with Ronnie and Cadillac running it to take attention off his pass game he wasn't very good. Jason Campbell WORKED OUT WELL he didn't play any better than mediocre in college.

[smoot]

Tonight I am ashamed too be part of this board.

No balance.

No objectivity.

No dignity.

No connection to the history of this team.

People are calling each other names, calling the best coach we ever had names, calling for his head after one season.

I suggest you go back and read about how George Allen took a perennial loser for 20 years and made them winners.

I suggest you go back and read about how Joe Gibbs harnessed a wayward team, gave it a gameplan and had one losing in twelve years.

We have one appearence in the playoffs in twelve years, at least I see a man who knows the way he wants to play and knows the kind of players he wants.

He is not a man who is afraid to face you and talk to you, yet you cannot even treat him with respct.

I have seen the words insanity, liar, idiot all attached to Joe Gibbs, he is none of these things. He may well be struggling to adapt to the new NFL but he is none of the above.
can we make this a sticky? ditto for me, thank you for being rationale and actually using the brain muscle before posting

[rskinsfan10]

Tonight I am ashamed too be part of this board.

No balance.

No objectivity.

No dignity.

No connection to the history of this team.

People are calling each other names, calling the best coach we ever had names, calling for his head after one season.

I suggest you go back and read about how George Allen took a perennial loser for 20 years and made them winners.

I suggest you go back and read about how Joe Gibbs harnessed a wayward team, gave it a gameplan and had one losing in twelve years.

We have one appearence in the playoffs in twelve years, at least I see a man who knows the way he wants to play and knows the kind of players he wants.

He is not a man who is afraid to face you and talk to you, yet you cannot even treat him with respct.

I have seen the words insanity, liar, idiot all attached to Joe Gibbs, he is none of these things. He may well be struggling to adapt to the new NFL but he is none of the above.

Of course I agree with you, but to some you may be deemed nothing more then a KoolAid drinker.

[Skins57]

Tonight I am ashamed too be part of this board.

No balance.

No objectivity.

No dignity.

No connection to the history of this team.

People are calling each other names, calling the best coach we ever had names, calling for his head after one season.

I suggest you go back and read about how George Allen took a perennial loser for 20 years and made them winners.

I suggest you go back and read about how Joe Gibbs harnessed a wayward team, gave it a gameplan and had one losing in twelve years.

We have one appearence in the playoffs in twelve years, at least I see a man who knows the way he wants to play and knows the kind of players he wants.

He is not a man who is afraid to face you and talk to you, yet you cannot even treat him with respct.

I have seen the words insanity, liar, idiot all attached to Joe Gibbs, he is none of these things. He may well be struggling to adapt to the new NFL but he is none of the above.

it is good to see not everyone has gone insane. Great post

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

im not here to cry at all.....(although i dont agree with the campbell pick) but i am glad that i wasnt around to read all of what axe and flave are talking about. i know most of you are all upset about the picks, but you guys are better than that.

[skins111111]

I would like to cry and whine and complain about all the sniveling armchair GM that think they know more than the greatest football coaching staff in the world......................my heads still spinnin on JC (is this a sign) but we're still gonna make the playoffs and then its any given Sunday........in a few years when JC takes over for PR its gonna be cool having JC playing on our team on Sunday

[funnyperson1]

I hate you and the bands you listen to.



(props for anyone who gets the reference)

[Bill Malinchak]

I agree on thinking positive about the draft's possibilities, but I don't understand why people get mad at others for being "armchair GM's" and such. Aren't we all armchair GM's even if we agree w/ Coach Gibbs? Isn't that what this is all about? We like to give our opinions good and bad amongst our fellow Skins fans.

Here's to Ramsey having a hell of a year next year!!!!!!!

[redskifreak]

......

[hail2skins]

It's a shame you had to create this thread.. We have alot of new members who don't understand the principles this board was built on. They need to understand that fast and that's all I'm going to say. Actions will be taken.

[flave1969]

Of course I agree with you, but to some you may be deemed nothing more then a KoolAid drinker.


I tasted KoolAid for the first time when I was in NC last month. Man my gums receded so high in my mouth they met my brain. :lol1: . How does anyone drink that stuff.

[smoak]

I stubbed my toe really bad... lots of swearing. Just thought I'd cry about that.

[WRSK1NS]

Wasn't very good????? Check the stats man, better yet check the number of W's. The numbers don't lie.

[RoanokeSkin]

:banghead: Gibbs :banghead: must go



SNYDER, THROW YOUR MONEY AROUND TO GET A GM THAT HAS AN ABSOLUTE CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Dont take this the wrong way, but you really piss me off. You have John Stamos for an avatar and you are trying to talk football? Joe Gibbs knows more about football and exclusively the Redskins, then you will ever know. I am guessing there is a reason you are not a coach,GM, or player in the NFL.

And we are all looking forward to your next avatar, surely you have a photo of George Michael, Richard Simmons, or Boy George readily available.

[hail2skins]

Dont take this the wrong way, but you really piss me off. You have John Stamos for an avatar and you are trying to talk football? Joe Gibbs knows more about football and exclusively the Redskins, then you will ever know. I am guessing there is a reason you are not a coach,GM, or player in the NFL.

And we are all looking forward to your next avatar, surely you have a photo of George Michael, Richard Simmons, or Boy George readily available.

Hey, keep this on topic. Attack the content, not the person.

[rskinsfan10]

I tasted KoolAid for the first time when I was in NC last month. Man my gums receded so high in my mouth they met my brain. :lol1: . How does anyone drink that stuff.

LOL. You have to control the amount of sugar added. It makes a huge difference. :D

[RoanokeSkin]

Hey, keep this on topic. Attack the content, not the person.


Sorry, it wont happen again. Reading his post got me a little worked up this morning. My bad.

[Axegrinder]

I'm not against Jason Campbell,just the price that we had to pay to get him.
I don't believe this was a need position...yet,and we overpaid.
For those folks who are calling for a GM,I can't disagree with you.

[skins111111]

as a GM Gibbs and Co. made 1 bad move last year and several good to great moves.........the jury is still out on this years moves but the only move I really question is JC (lack of need and high price) ......but you gotta love those highlight reels.....what really impressed me was not just his arm strength but the accuracy he had with the long ball, great focous and touch
.......I know these were ...highlights... but thats what stood out for me :)

[ihatedallas]

uhm wah? Not at the picks....but becuase og the people going crazy in the draft forum...and for the people hating on Carlos Rodgers becuase they wanted a wide reciever...even though we have no solid starting CB...but thats fine..thats defense...who cares about defense? ...give me a break...

[Warpath23]

30th on offense 3rd on defense. But we take a corner first and a back up QB second? We act like we lost Deon Sanders or something.Thats all I have to say

[Jimreaper007]

I remember starting a thread about the change to a focus on team. Our draft picks yesterday was another step in what I described as a weening off the big names process. Joe Gibbs went out yesterday and grabbed two really good, team oriented football players with the right attitudes.

We can argue until we are purple in the face, but everyone knows our QB situation is far from stable. Adding a kid with tons of talent and a great attitude is NEVER a bad thing. Joe gibbs rarely got the big names or popular picks during his first tenure, but everyone is pissing and moaning now that he is actually building the team the proven and effective way.

Even Bill Parcells had a couple of years when he tried to do it someone else's way, but you see that this year he is going back to a 3-4 defense and fired his Offensive Coordinator. Basically the good coaches are rediscovering what made them good coaches which in some cases is scheme (parcells) and in others it is surrounding yourself with quality people (Gibbs).

I can understand this grumbling from kids too young to remember what got us those 3 Lombardi trophies, but I cannot for the life of me understand us old school skins fans barking at these moves.

TEAM

Campbell is a Redskin and I for one am glad he is here.

[ihatedallas]

:goodpost:

[Axegrinder]

30th on offense 3rd on defense. But we take a corner first and a back up QB second? We act like we lost Deon Sanders or something.Thats all I have to say
I can't disagree with this either.
Sure,we had to replace a corner,but the offense was pathetic and the playcalling was worse.

[warpaint]

Tonight I am ashamed too be part of this board.

No balance.

No objectivity.

No dignity.

No connection to the history of this team.

People are calling each other names, calling the best coach we ever had names, calling for his head after one season.

I suggest you go back and read about how George Allen took a perennial loser for 20 years and made them winners.

I suggest you go back and read about how Joe Gibbs harnessed a wayward team, gave it a gameplan and had one losing in twelve years.

We have one appearence in the playoffs in twelve years, at least I see a man who knows the way he wants to play and knows the kind of players he wants.

He is not a man who is afraid to face you and talk to you, yet you cannot even treat him with respct.

I have seen the words insanity, liar, idiot all attached to Joe Gibbs, he is none of these things. He may well be struggling to adapt to the new NFL but he is none of the above.
i agree with you 100%, lots of so called fans here could never be a cubs fan, have been in combat here when in the army, i will tell you,there are a lot of fans here in which i would never want covering my back, first time you needed them would side with the enemy.

[Jimreaper007]

The offense will be better because the line will be better.

Ramsey will be better because the line will be better

Portis will be better because the line will be better

The WRs will be better because they will be happy to be here and they will actually catch passes thrown to them.

[Skins57]

If anyone thinks QB was not a need on this team, just look at the Qb play over the past few years. We have not had a good QB here in years and if people think Ramsey has been good, they are drinking that Kool-aid that Flave is drinkling :D

[skins111111]

I can't disagree with this either.
Sure,we had to replace a corner,but the offense was pathetic and the playcalling was worse.

thats why we got Rabach as soon as FA started, with him and Jansen back that will give Ram some breathing room to hit our new speedsters deep which will open the running game for CP...........which will improve the playcalling bigtime..............we still have Cooley, DMac, Thrash to go over the middle and I wouldn't doubt Gardner will be back for another year.........I know this is the crybaby thread but Gardner made some fine catches over the middle last year and he wasn't 50/50 either........one of our members was keeping track and it was more like 70/30.....anybody got those stats?

[Axegrinder]

Do we have any depth?
Is Raymer the backup?
Battles are won and lost in the trenches.
We lost a majority of them last season on offense.

[Skins57]

Axe, I understand you worries here on depth remember this is only draft day, we have the 2 T we drafted last year, that have had a year under Buges, friedman played well enough to be considered a back up Raymer will be gone most likely, and add in coach/player Brown in and I am not completely worried. We could possibly pick up a vet FA after June 1st. not all of our needs can be filled during the draft

[skins111111]

Do we have any depth?
Is Raymer the backup?
Battles are won and lost in the trenches.
We lost a majority of them last season on offense.

Raymer with Jansen back is still a lot better than last year
and molinario and Wilson should be maturing
time will tell

[Axegrinder]

Raymer with Jansen back is still a lot better than last year
and molinario and Wilson should be maturing
time will tell
Agreed.I just wish we'd get an update about our Dirtbags in waiting.

[Warpath23]

I remember starting a thread about the change to a focus on team. Our draft picks yesterday was another step in what I described as a weening off the big names process. Joe Gibbs went out yesterday and grabbed two really good, team oriented football players with the right attitudes.

We can argue until we are purple in the face, but everyone knows our QB situation is far from stable. Adding a kid with tons of talent and a great attitude is NEVER a bad thing. Joe gibbs rarely got the big names or popular picks during his first tenure, but everyone is pissing and moaning now that he is actually building the team the proven and effective way.

Even Bill Parcells had a couple of years when he tried to do it someone else's way, but you see that this year he is going back to a 3-4 defense and fired his Offensive Coordinator. Basically the good coaches are rediscovering what made them good coaches which in some cases is scheme (parcells) and in others it is surrounding yourself with quality people (Gibbs).

I can understand this grumbling from kids too young to remember what got us those 3 Lombardi trophies, but I cannot for the life of me understand us old school skins fans barking at these moves.

TEAM

Campbell is a Redskin and I for one am glad he is here.

I dont disagree with the picks, just the order. WR Williams at 9, CB Justin Miller at 25, and maybe A. McPherson in the 4th if there would have filled all needs. But I'm over it now and I actually like the Cambell pick and think he and Rodgers are good picks. I just hate the fact that we didnt have a 2nd & 3rd this year to grab a Reggie Brown. Thats why I didnt like the order the players were picked.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Man my gums receded so high in my mouth they met my brain. :lol1:

One of the funniest things I have read in a long time......

[IowaSkinsFan]

Do we have any depth?
Is Raymer the backup?
Battles are won and lost in the trenches.
We lost a majority of them last season on offense.

Watch for Ben Nowland to replace Raymer and Friedman this TC. He is having a pretty decent season in NFLE. He is a starter over there. Plays for Frankfurt.

[Axegrinder]

Watch for Ben Nowland to replace Raymer and Friedman this TC. He is having a pretty decent season in NFLE. He is a starter over there. Plays for Frankfurt.
This would be great news.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

Do we have any depth?
Is Raymer the backup?
Battles are won and lost in the trenches.
We lost a majority of them last season on offense.
is ben wilkerson still available? alot of guys were high on him around here.

[funnyperson1]

I dont disagree with the picks, just the order. WR Williams at 9, CB Justin Miller at 25, and maybe A. McPherson in the 4th if there would have filled all needs. But I'm over it now and I actually like the Cambell pick and think he and Rodgers are good picks. I just hate the fact that we didnt have a 2nd & 3rd this year to grab a Reggie Brown. Thats why I didnt like the order the players were picked.
Justin Miller isn't that good of a cornerback, he is just fast and good at returning kicks. I don't believe he is on the same level as Carlos Rogers.