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RedHokieSkin
05-03-2005, 02:44 PM
Campbell! Campbell! Campbell!

How long do you give Ramsey before we hear it?

I'd be willing to bet we'll hear someone say it before preseason is over, regardless of Ramsey's performance.

hail2skins
05-03-2005, 02:46 PM
There are already plenty of Campbell threads.

smoak
05-03-2005, 02:47 PM
In training camp.

I think you'll hear it EARLY in the first game if we aren't winning. I'm sad that we have a fan base that doesn't support the players during the game. Debate all you want afterwards, buty during the game they should yell and scream their heads off! (When we're on D).

PGiddy18
05-03-2005, 02:48 PM
Campbell! Campbell! Campbell!

How long do you give Ramsey before we hear it?

There is always going to be the **CENSORED BY SPENCE** that starts chanting it the first time Ramsey doesn't complete a pass, but I think that the fans know that he just isn't ready yet. It'll be intersting to see how he does in camps/preseason, but don't think we'll expect much from him any time soon.

CNYSkinFan
05-03-2005, 02:52 PM
Personally. I will not chant for Campbell until training camp......06. Ramsey should get the year and Campbell needs to watch for a year ala Carson Palmer.

MoeRedskins
05-03-2005, 02:54 PM
Hopefully not until 06

ShaggySkins
05-03-2005, 02:54 PM
It really depends on how Ramsey reacts to the competition. If he performs like he did this last preseason then it won't take very long but if he can perform like he deserves to be the starter then there will be little chanting. As long as he wins people won't call for Campbell.

chrisbcbu
05-03-2005, 02:55 PM
tomorrow [/end sarcasm

Redskinfan28
05-03-2005, 03:04 PM
It is bad news if Campbell plays next year b/c it would mean that Patrick Ramsey and Brunell have sucked and the record most likely sucks. We won't win if Campbell is playing.

PA Skins Girl
05-03-2005, 03:04 PM
It all depends on Ramsey. If he is 8/20 with 2 picks in the first game, you'll hear it in the first game. If he has a few good games to start the season, the fans wont be so quick to chant if he has a bad outing. He needs to get off to a decent start to give himself a chance.

LATrueRedskin
05-03-2005, 03:20 PM
I'd say not this year. If Ramsey screws up, Brunell will be in. Campbell will start next year, and Ramsey will be playing well for another team.

LuvSkins17
05-03-2005, 03:22 PM
I don't know when we will hear it,...... but we will. I hope Patrick can hold it down because we need a strong, smart, commander on Offense. I really feel like Spurrier ruined Ramsey and he still plays a bit "Shell Shocked". I think he trys to psych himself up to do well, but when things get going, I think he is reminded of a time not so long ago that he was asked to throw passes with 4 blockers and 7 players running pass routes. Good Ole' Ball Coach really "Coached Ramsey Up"..... Spurrier's still hurtin' us yall,..... He's still lurkin'......, He's in the huddle and he may be in Ramsey's head (not head-SET).... yellin',......

:cry: "AHHHH Patrick, Looook Ooooouuuttt! Throw it to "Dar-rar-re-in" (i think)!!!!????

ryflan47
05-03-2005, 03:24 PM
Say it ain't so Ramsey!
He's gotta pick up the slack.

Dept_of_Defense
05-03-2005, 03:24 PM
I hope the fans don't chant for Campbell this year. I want Ram to be the leader of the team. If we chant for Campbell, Ram's gonna lose confidence in us and probably never gain it back. He's gonna tear it up this year.
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The Skinsinator
05-03-2005, 03:34 PM
Hopefully not at all. We need Ramsey to have a good year so we dont have to play a rookie qb. I think the fanbase is still in Ramseys corner for the most part just excited about our rookie prospect. Ramsey needs to do it this year for our Redskins and his future. Do or die.

BurgundyNGold
05-03-2005, 03:37 PM
I hope the fans don't chant for Campbell this year. I want Ram to be the leader of the team. If we chant for Campbell, Ram's gonna lose confidence in us and probably never gain it back. He's gonna tear it up this year.
If the fans are chanting for Campbell next year, that means Ramsey is giving them reason to do it. It he plays even moderately well, Campbell will be the forgotten man.

ConradCountry
05-03-2005, 04:22 PM
I am going to say that people will be chanting for Campbell b y week 2 if Ramsey can't deliver a win over the Cowboys on Monday night then the chants will start.

PennSkinsFan
05-03-2005, 04:33 PM
Quite simply actually. NO ONE will call for Campbell if Ramsey does his job!

RedKnight
05-03-2005, 04:39 PM
For one, I certainly hope not. Ramsey should be given fair shot like Burnell (for nine games) last year. Saying boos or chanting for rookie to come in isn't going to help our team. If we are going to boos QB, we should boos offense linemen. they haven't give our QB any time to throw.

portis2endzone
05-03-2005, 04:54 PM
hopefully no one chants for campbell yet. you should cheer for the one who is on the field(ramsey). less then a year ago people were chanting ramsey now its gonna be campbell? people need to stop flip floping and stick to something. ramsey is the qb this year you should cheer for him on him high moments and cheer for him even more when hes having low moments because thats when he needs it the most. let him know we back him up 100%.

skins111111
05-03-2005, 05:01 PM
I'd say not this year. If Ramsey screws up, Brunell will be in. Campbell will start next year, and Ramsey will be playing well for another team.

Ram won't screw up, he's going to have a wicked year....but say he does or gets hurt..... Brunell comes in.....the Campbell chant will start before he plays 2 quarters.......if this happens I pray Gibbs listens and gets Brunell outta there

whistleandthumb
05-03-2005, 05:10 PM
Look, if Gibbs gave BRUNELL 8+ weeks to get his act together, Ramsey deserves at least 7 or 8 seasons to make it happen. If people start chanting for Campbell this season, then they are the same fair-weather idiot "fans" that dilute the horrific roar of RFK into the puppy-yawn of FedEx.

PennSkinsFan
05-03-2005, 05:11 PM
Futile topic anyway, because if Ramsey tanks, Brunnell will be in. We will not see campbell this season barring injuries to both. Mark it down!

Wobblin Possum
05-03-2005, 05:20 PM
Hopefully we won't have to chant Cambell...So don't think we will be doing it or at least lets hope Ramsey don't make us????

RedKnight
05-03-2005, 05:31 PM
Futile topic anyway, because if Ramsey tanks, Brunnell will be in. We will not see campbell this season barring injuries to both. Mark it down!

If so, we need to come together and pray that we will never have to go through see our abnormal qb playing ever again to save our sanity :banghead:

3Taylor6
05-03-2005, 05:32 PM
obviously ramsey will be the starter for atleast 7-8 games but say he does horrible like brunell did last year and campbell performs really well in practice why wouldnt gibbs give him a chance i mean look what happened with ben with the steelers?

dj_stouty
05-03-2005, 08:26 PM
If Ramsey is boo'ed, you can thank many of the fans at Fed Ex (and many from hailRedskins) who were advocates in boo'ing Brunell last year. A culture changed in the stadium that day...and I fear we it wont' change for a long time. I just hope Fed Ex doesn't turn into The Vet. I would hate to hear boo'ing on every other play during every home game...

I have been Ramsey's harshest critic around here for over a year now...and I LOVE the drafting of Campbell, HOWEVER, I will certainly not participate in boo'ing anyone wearing the B&G. Especially Ramsey. I won't give the opposing team the satisfaction. Ramsey needs our support...

redskin_rich
05-03-2005, 08:36 PM
If Ramsey is boo'ed, you can thank many of the fans at Fed Ex (and many from hailRedskins) who were advocates in boo'ing Brunell last year. A culture changed in the stadium that day...and I fear we it wont' change for a long time. I just hope Fed Ex doesn't turn into The Vet. I would hate to hear boo'ing on every other play during every home game...

I have been Ramsey's harshest critic around here for over a year now...and I LOVE the drafting of Campbell, HOWEVER, I will certainly not participate in boo'ing anyone wearing the B&G. Especially Ramsey. I won't give the opposing team the satisfaction. Ramsey needs our support...
I hate to say it DJ, but it's nothing new. I remember in '92 after Rypien won the Super Bowl MVP and held out the first 2 weeks of camp for a new contract, his first appearance back at RFK, in the pre-season, he was booed loudly the second he came on the field. He pretty much stunk it up that year and it was the beginning of the end for him here.

skins74
05-03-2005, 08:56 PM
Fans will start chanting Campbell as soon as Brunell is put into the game.

LuvSkins17
05-03-2005, 09:04 PM
Fans will start chanting Campbell as soon as Brunell is put into the game.
:lol1:

GMUskinsfan
05-03-2005, 09:37 PM
Ramsey is my man until we're out of playoff contention, Campbell needs atleast a year anyways he's not ready for the speed of the pro game.

RedskinsVision
05-03-2005, 11:31 PM
if the fans chant for Campbell that means our season's in the tank and another LONG season and off-season to endure... and our near future in doubt.

darksome
05-04-2005, 12:03 AM
I am going to say that people will be chanting for Campbell b y week 2 if Ramsey can't deliver a win over the Cowboys on Monday night then the chants will start.

People are ALREADY chanting for Campbell. Hell, I am chanting for Hasselback! I have no faith in Ramsey or Brunell, and not JUST because of last year. He has done nothing to earn faith. Let me ask this: If Ramsey stinks like he did last year in mini camp, STINKS this year, then do we keep using the "rookie" excuse for JC? I mean, we all know that Gibbs is not going to pull him, but you seriously can't tell me that by the fourth game last year you weren't sharpening your Brunell axes! I do not want to sit thru another year of mediocrity on offense, when our defense is kicking butt and taking names if they think about it!! Neither does Snyder! If we are going to tank the season, then tank it with the rookie. Not just sit him because he is a rookie.

Honestly, I do think that it would be both healthy and wise to sit JC for a year at least just so he can "take in" the playbook and the NFL aura. But if we are losing, then he can do it from the field. I refuse to believe that no one agrees with me that we should do this if we go 0-6. Unfortunately, it would probably take Ramsey getting hurt. I for one, actually don't want that, because we need him to play while JC gets ready and so he can draw some interest when we shop him. Discount that at your peril sports fans! :Padawan:

joethefan
05-04-2005, 08:09 AM
I'd say not this year. If Ramsey screws up, Brunell will be in. Campbell will start next year, and Ramsey will be playing well for another team.

AWW LAWD if Brunell comes in, you'll know that fans will want Campbell before Brunell...not saying it's right but it'll happen..

Ramsey better not struggle but his ability to not responde to pressure is what scares me....(meaing the pressure of knowing he has to do well)

Redskin-4-life
05-04-2005, 08:32 AM
I'll say only during home games, during garbage time after the game is in hand.

Patrick
05-04-2005, 09:06 AM
This is Washington PEOPLE!!!!!
Bad preseason .....there will be rumbles
0-4 start ....... there WILL be chants
0-6 start ....... there WILL be riots
0-8 start ....... mass suicides
0-10 start ….. WAR is declared!

NamVet4
05-04-2005, 09:35 AM
This is Washington PEOPLE!!!!!
Bad preseason .....there will be rumbles
0-4 start ....... there WILL be chants
0-6 start ....... there WILL be riots
0-8 start ....... mass suicides
0-10 start ….. WAR is declared!
:lol3: :lol1:

frenchskinsfan
05-04-2005, 09:36 AM
I'm optimistic, so Ram will lead us to the playoffs this year, then again, but farther the next year.
During that span, Campbell will develop.
For the third year, Ramsey will restructure his contract, or will go elsewhere, or will get some injury, and Campbell will step in and, surrounded by a very talented team, and a better coaching staff very accustomed to the nowadays NFL, will lead us to the SB, not that year, nor the next, but his third one.

That's 5 years from now, that'll be the first year of the new Redskins head coach Greg Williams.

Fantasy ? Hope Not !!

jhugg
05-04-2005, 09:44 AM
The chanting for Campbell could very well start in the preseason, if Ramsey responds this year in camp the same way he responded to Brunell's challenge last year. I, for one, have some serious questions about the ability of Ramsey to respond to pressure. I feel as though Ramsey has never earned the right to be the starting quarterback.

Basically, the job has always been handed to him, simply because he has been the best option available to us and not because he earned it. Ramsey's challengers on the Redskins have been Matthews, Woeful, and Brunell. None of these guys strikes fear in any secondary's heart. The Redskins have been forced to give the starting job to Ramsey simply because there has been no viable alternative.

I remember something that Joe Bugle said last year when Brunell was struggling. He said something to the effect that Ramsey had to step up or show something in order to start. I do not believe that it took nine games for Ramsey to "show something", it's just that Brunell was so incompetent that a change had to be made, and that Ramsey couldn't do any worse.

Now, before anyone jumps all over my case, let me just say that I have supported Ramsey since he has been a
Redskins and will continue to support him for as long as he is a Redskin. But I would have to admit that if Ramsey were not a Redskin, I would think that he is not a top-flight quarterback. If a quarterback cannot respond to the pressure of another quarterback's presence on the team, I do not feel he will respond well to being 10 points down in the fourth quarter.

A quarterback should not have his job handed to him, but he should go out and take it. In my opinion, Ramsey has not done this. I hope that I am wrong for next season, but this is how I have seen it for the previous three seasons.

Joe Gibbs has started rookie quarterbacks on 11 different occasions during his 13 year NFL career. I believe he will start whoever he feels will give him the best chance for victory.

MoeRedskins
05-04-2005, 10:55 AM
If Ramsey is boo'ed, you can thank many of the fans at Fed Ex (and many from hailRedskins) who were advocates in boo'ing Brunell last year. A culture changed in the stadium that day...and I fear we it wont' change for a long time. I just hope Fed Ex doesn't turn into The Vet. I would hate to hear boo'ing on every other play during every home game...

I have been Ramsey's harshest critic around here for over a year now...and I LOVE the drafting of Campbell, HOWEVER, I will certainly not participate in boo'ing anyone wearing the B&G. Especially Ramsey. I won't give the opposing team the satisfaction. Ramsey needs our support...

Brunell needed to be sat and everybody knew it. I don't think that Ramsey will be get booed like Brunell did. If anything, the Campbell has probably gotten more people behind Ramsey then before, Ramsey would have to totally suck a fat one to get booed off the field.

IowaSkinsFan
05-04-2005, 07:05 PM
Campbell! Campbell! Campbell!

How long do you give Ramsey before we hear it?

I'd be willing to bet we'll hear someone say it before preseason is over, regardless of Ramsey's performance.

2006 or beyond.

If Campbell plays this season, then the season is lost. Everyone saw how much lattitude Brunell got last season and Ramsey was not a rookie. I don't think Joe is going to have the quick hook on a veteran with a rookie waiting in the wings.

bantu
05-04-2005, 08:35 PM
Campbell! Campbell! Campbell!

How long do you give Ramsey before we hear it?

I'd be willing to bet we'll hear someone say it before preseason is over, regardless of Ramsey's performance.


I hope we don't hear it cuz it means we are doing well.

darksome
05-04-2005, 11:26 PM
I hope we don't hear it cuz it means we are doing well.

Yo I love that sig you got!! My motto exactly!!

Ramsey will play well. He doesn't feel like JC is over his shoulder. No quick hook when a rookie is the other option on a Gibbs team. Hopefully, now that he is signed, him and Moss can start getting their timing down pat.

Cuz like it was said previously, if we see JC for any other reason than clean-up duty after we have long since sowed up the division, then we are in trouble late in the year!

ChiefPowhatan17
05-05-2005, 06:32 AM
I think it really depends on the first 5 games. If we are 5-0 then you won't hear them all year long, cause if Ramsey hits his stride there might not be any looking back. But if we lose 3 of the first 5 you will hear it. Too bad Tim is gone, they should've released Brunell. And Campbell has to take the 2nd string spot from Mark. Once he does that then, Ramsey might be looking behind him.

BIGSEF3
05-05-2005, 09:24 AM
i dont think people will chant campbell, unless ramsey gets hurt and brunell comes in and sucks it up.

barring an injury, i expect ramsey to have an excellent year, where us fans feel very torn b/w campbell and ramsey starting next year.

darksome
05-05-2005, 09:28 AM
i dont think people will chant campbell, unless ramsey gets hurt and brunell comes in and sucks it up.

barring an injury, i expect ramsey to have an excellent year, where us fans feel very torn b/w campbell and ramsey starting next year.

I agree. And no doubt about it, Brunell will come in and do just that! I hope Ramsey does have a good year. But I think that we are grooming JC for the future and that we are going to trade Ramsey for a good pick or player (if he shines this year).

lavarsamonster
05-05-2005, 09:29 AM
Brunell needed to be sat and everybody knew it. I don't think that Ramsey will be get booed like Brunell did. If anything, the Campbell has probably gotten more people behind Ramsey then before, Ramsey would have to totally suck a fat one to get booed off the field.


i think ramsey will get booed, remember two years ago thats all i heard in the stadium, that and how spurrier spent two much time in the sun to think straight

Death_Venom
05-05-2005, 11:17 AM
I think Ramasey has been far underrated as a QB, and I PERSONALLY feel Ramsey will play at a far higher level than anticipated by most SKins fans. Now let me be CLEAR I think Campbell has GREAT potential consisdering he was highly rated by most in Draft and may indeed eventually become our starter............

BigPlayJay
05-06-2005, 12:21 AM
I would personally like to see campbell get at least one full year with no play at all. There is too much pressure in DC for a rookie QB. I think Ramsey might have been doing better by now if he had been allowed to sit out a year and not get thrown in against the Titans. After that he had the weight of the world on his shoulders.

Lets give this guy Campbell a chance to succeed. In the mean time I hope Ramsey has a great year.

WarEagle
05-06-2005, 03:06 AM
We'll see plenty of Campbell in the preseason. But, I agree, he needs some clipboard time on the sideline during the real season.

God forbid they throw him in when all hope is lost and he throws two touchdowns...!

RedHokieSkin
05-06-2005, 02:08 PM
...I think that we are grooming JC for the future and that we are going to trade Ramsey for a good pick or player (if he shines this year).

If he shines this year, we'll have a San Diego Chargers dilemma. That's my kind of problem! Keep the guy that is proven and had a great year? or put your mouth where your money is and trust the new guy?

Hopefully the Skins would make the same decision the Chargers did in that situation....

redskinz#1fan
05-06-2005, 02:41 PM
Campbell will get his time to shine, but now is not the time. We need to bring him in very slow. Let him learn the system(he should play only if Ramsey gets hurt). Ramsey will shut up a lot of people this year. He will have a new found respect league wide this year, to include Gibbs & company. Ramsey knows he has a lot that he must prove, and this is his time to do that. I really believe that Ramsey can & will take us deep into the playoffs & possibly the SuperBowl. Then we will have a bunch of people that will try and claim Ramsey & his new found success. IMO!

PennSkinsFan
05-06-2005, 03:02 PM
I would personally like to see campbell get at least one full year with no play at all. There is too much pressure in DC for a rookie QB. I think Ramsey might have been doing better by now if he had been allowed to sit out a year and not get thrown in against the Titans. After that he had the weight of the world on his shoulders.

Lets give this guy Campbell a chance to succeed. In the mean time I hope Ramsey has a great year.

I think you'll get your wish. JC will not play in any reguklar season game unless Ram and Brunnell both go down to injury.

GWBlitzST
05-06-2005, 03:31 PM
It seems like everyone should have learned by now that with the exception of Ben Roethlisburger, it is a very bad idea to start a rookie qb. John Elway said it set him back 3 years because he was thrown into the lion's den while still learning the nfl systems.

Skin-E-Dip
05-07-2005, 11:15 AM
I've started the chant the day Campbell got picked and Hasselback got cut. Ramsey blows. I dont need to see anymore. If you blow on day 1 you gonna blow on day 99, no matter how young you are or how much potential you have. You know there were still Wizard fans who thought Kwame Brown was on his way up. Gibbs knows Ramsey sucks monkey poo too .

Potential is a very very bad word that should be avoided at all times. Potential is to sport athletes what "Fixer Upper" is to real estate. AVOID AVOID.

Seriously I know absolutely nothing about this Campbell kid, but I guarantee he will see playing time this year in some fashion. Brunnel is the emergency QB and Ramsey is on borrowed time

smoot
05-07-2005, 11:29 AM
I've started the chant the day Campbell got picked and Hasselback got cut. Ramsey blows. I dont need to see anymore. If you blow on day 1 you gonna blow on day 99, no matter how young you are or how much potential you have. You know there were still Wizard fans who thought Kwame Brown was on his way up. Gibbs knows Ramsey sucks monkey poo too .

Potential is a very very bad word that should be avoided at all times. Potential is to sport athletes what "Fixer Upper" is to real estate. AVOID AVOID.

Seriously I know absolutely nothing about this Campbell kid, but I guarantee he will see playing time this year in some fashion. Brunnel is the emergency QB and Ramsey is on borrowed time
i hope this is a joke

BurgundyNGold
05-07-2005, 11:41 AM
I've started the chant the day Campbell got picked and Hasselback got cut. Ramsey blows. I dont need to see anymore. If you blow on day 1 you gonna blow on day 99, no matter how young you are or how much potential you have. You know there were still Wizard fans who thought Kwame Brown was on his way up. Gibbs knows Ramsey sucks monkey poo too .

Potential is a very very bad word that should be avoided at all times. Potential is to sport athletes what "Fixer Upper" is to real estate. AVOID AVOID.

Seriously I know absolutely nothing about this Campbell kid, but I guarantee he will see playing time this year in some fashion. Brunnel is the emergency QB and Ramsey is on borrowed time
Well, then, we're screwed on Campbell and everyone else we drafted this year, because all we and the other 31 teams did was draft "potential".