Jason Campbell being game ready

[2Cooley]

How exactly will he get the real effect since he probly wont be at the games and acording to last year if Ramsey was a 2nd and only got about 10% of the snaps how many will Campbell get or do you think this may change?

[redskin_rich]

How exactly will he get the real effect since he probly wont be at the games and acording to last year if Ramsey was a 2nd and only got about 10% of the snaps how many will Campbell get or do you think this may change.
Campbell will get most of his work in the pre-season. Once the season starts, the only work he will probably get will be running the scout team in practice against our defense.

[2Cooley]

Campbell will get most of his work in the pre-season. Once the season starts, the only work he will probably get will be running the scout team in practice against our defense.

I just want to(If a great act of god happens and we blow somebody out) bring him in at leat once this season

[redskin_rich]

I just want to(If a great act of god happens and we blow somebody out) bring him in at leat once this season
Unless there is an injury, Campbell will be 3rd string, at least for the beginning of the season, so I doubt you will see him in a real game this year.

[2Cooley]

Unless there is an injury, Campbell will be 3rd string, at least for the beginning of the season, so I doubt you will see him in a real game this year.
not even holding the clip board well no i guess nobody brings 3 qbs to a game

[greatest2]

i have absolutly no problem with him sitting the bench all year.....let him learn gibbs system....he doesn't need to be put in the Pro's with a system he hasn't fully learned......

maybe ramsey leaves after this year....we have a 2nd year guy who knows the system....all he will have to prepare for is the speed of the game as he will learn the different defenses from GW his rookie year he sits on the bench...

great move to keep him on the bench....this way we don't through away any year for us to make the playoffs!!!!!!!!!

[2Cooley]

i have absolutly no problem with him sitting the bench all year.....let him learn gibbs system....he doesn't need to be put in the Pro's with a system he hasn't fully learned......

maybe ramsey leaves after this year....we have a 2nd year guy who knows the system....all he will have to prepare for is the speed of the game as he will learn the different defenses from GW his rookie year he sits on the bench...

great move to keep him on the bench....this way we don't through away any year for us to make the playoffs!!!!!!!!!

I guess to me it is kind of interesting that a first round pick wont even be at the game

[The Skinsinator]

For all things considered I think/hope he will be on the bench all season. For one it will help learn the best. Secondly it means all our other quarterbacks are playing well so there is no need/desire to insert him in to play.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

not even holding the clip board well no i guess nobody brings 3 qbs to a game
I'm sure we will have 3 Qb's around at least in some games.

[akhhorus]

I guess to me it is kind of interesting that a first round pick wont even be at the game

Roetheleisberger was supposed to hold the clipboard all last year, until Tommy Maddox broke his arm. How'd that work out in the end?

[PyroGenic]

not even holding the clip board well no i guess nobody brings 3 qbs to a game


they usually do. I remember seeing Hasselbeck and Brunell there last season. You have your backup QB and emergency QB.

[The Skinsinator]

Roetheleisberger was supposed to hold the clipboard all last year, until Tommy Maddox broke his arm. How'd that work out in the end?

Worked out great. If Ramsey comes out stinking the joint up and the campaign appears lost then put Campbell in. Kind of like the Giants did last season with Eli. We need to get the future some time/experience. Of course I hope that doesnt happen but is possible. Akh what do you think should be done if Ramsey stinks and we are 4 games into the season so the campaign is salvageable?

[LATrueRedskin]

How exactly will he get the real effect since he probly wont be at the games and acording to last year if Ramsey was a 2nd and only got about 10% of the snaps how many will Campbell get or do you think this may change?

Why wouldn't he be at the games? I don't think he should play at all. He won't be ready this year at all, and maybe next year. I want him holding the clipboard and paying attention in meetings for at least this year.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

Why wouldn't he be at the games? I don't think he should play at all. He won't be ready this year at all, and maybe next year. I want him holding the clipboard and paying attention in meetings for at least this year.
2Cooley says that no team goes to the games to 3 QB's.

[LATrueRedskin]

2Cooley says that no team goes to the games to 3 QB's.

How come I say Ramsey, Brunell, and Hasslebeck on the sidelines last year? Of course there are three QB's.

[COUNCILMAN]

Roetheleisberger was supposed to hold the clipboard all last year, until Tommy Maddox broke his arm. How'd that work out in the end?

And Tommy Maddox sat on the bench for 3 years behind John Elway until he quit football....and then came back with another team(Pittsburg) years later.

How'd that work out?

I have no idea why so many people are actually rooting for Patrick to fail. I personally think it is great that Patrick is poised to be a solid starter and the Skins have a young rookie with lots of potential who can be groomed for something way down the road...or if Patrick is injured. But we don't need Campbell to "save" the Redskins yet...and once you start a rookie...you are basically talking about rebuilding your offense because rookie QB's are notorius for not winning. Rothleberger was an extreme exception, and not the norm. In fact what he did has never happpened before in the history of the NFL so don't be counting on Campbell to come in and win 10 games in a row after beating out Ramsey in camp. You have to come down to earth.

[greatest2]

at all most any other position you look at your first rounder to step in and play immediatly.....put QB is the only debate whether to start them immediatly or to sit them and let them learn.....

Look at Marvin Lewis approach with carson palmer.....

The only way this sitting around one season works is if Jason puts his mind to work. He will get out of it as much as he puts in.....if he is constantly at meetings asking questions makeing suggestions then you will see him understand the system.....if he doesn't, not only will we have a guy who still needs to understand the speed of the game, but a guy who doesn't even know the system. We would not only have wasted his rookie year.... also the year he starts because he will be a TRUE rookie...

Jason....put your mind to it...so you can lead us in the future from the get go..

i hope ramsey is our QB for the next 3-5 years....but it nice to have a guy who can step in for an injury or if ramsey doesn't want to stay because it is his Contract year

[redskin_rich]

2Cooley says that no team goes to the games to 3 QB's.
Thats not true, every team has their 3rd "emergency" QB, like Pyro said.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

How come I say Ramsey, Brunell, and Hasslebeck on the sidelines last year? Of course there are three QB's.
Yeah, they are.. he just thinks there are not.

[redwolf1218]

Campbell might get in the game if it's a blow out just to get some experience. the worst case scenario would be for Ramsey to stink. he has to do well for the team to succeed and to draw trade interest.

[LATrueRedskin]

Campbell might get in the game if it's a blow out just to get some experience. the worst case scenario would be for Ramsey to stink. he has to do well for the team to succeed and to draw trade interest.

I don't think Gibbs would do that. I think he'll go right in order if that's the case. Brunell would be in if the game was a blow out or if Ramsey stunk up the joint.

[hail2skins]

not even holding the clip board well no i guess nobody brings 3 qbs to a gameThat's not true. We had all three QB's on the sideline last year.

[akhhorus]

Worked out great. If Ramsey comes out stinking the joint up and the campaign appears lost then put Campbell in. Kind of like the Giants did last season with Eli. We need to get the future some time/experience. Of course I hope that doesnt happen but is possible. Akh what do you think should be done if Ramsey stinks and we are 4 games into the season so the campaign is salvageable?

I think you have to consider it. If Ramsey is looking woeful, Brunell not any better--you have at least consider it. Campbell showing something in the Preseason/training camp/games would make Gibbs feel better about the decision.

[COUNCILMAN]

I think you have to consider it. If Ramsey is looking woeful, Brunell not any better--you have at least consider it. Campbell showing something in the Preseason/training camp/games would make Gibbs feel better about the decision.

Without question if Ramsey isn't performing then its "NEXT". But thats the way it needs to be with all positions...not just quarterback.

If Moss has only 20 pass receptions at midseason and drops 40 percent of his passes thrown to him...then somebody else needs to start. This competition for being a starter doesn't begin and end at QB.

The Skins need performers...instead of starters.

[smoak]

I guess to me it is kind of interesting that a first round pick wont even be at the game

Actually 3rd string QBs are suited up for the game.

[whistleandthumb]

I have no idea why so many people are actually rooting for Patrick to fail.


There is a group of narcissists on this board that pose as actual Redskin fans. Yet, they are also the ones who will cheer like crazy if Ramsey wins us a Super Bowl. Go figure.

[2Cooley]

O sorry i guess 3 do suit up for a game but not for every team because i know for a fact that not at least in every game that the broncos only took 2qbs and rod smith was the emergancy like either tupa or gardner is ours

[darksome]

Campbell will get most of his work in the pre-season. Once the season starts, the only work he will probably get will be running the scout team in practice against our defense.

Rich my man you are on the money! Cuz if Ramsey goes down, he still won't get in. I don't want to even say who will. We will just have to grin and bear it.

[LATrueRedskin]

O sorry i guess 3 do suit up for a game but not for every team because i know for a fact that not at least in every game that the broncos only took 2qbs and rod smith was the emergancy like either tupa or gardner is ours

Most teams, if not all, do suit up 3 QB's. It's pretty much standard.

[darksome]

There is a group of narcissists on this board that pose as actual Redskin fans. Yet, they are also the ones who will cheer like crazy if Ramsey wins us a Super Bowl. Go figure.

Actually, anyone who doesn't like Ramsey, yet supports him if we march to a Bowl, IS being a true fan, since a true fan wants the team to do good, not just certain players. Know what I mean?

If you had a child that you wanted to go to medical school, and they wanted to be a musician (much to your chagrin), would you not support and/or applaud them if they landed atop Billboard's Top 100? I think so.

[darksome]

Most teams, if not all, do suit up 3 QB's. It's pretty much standard.

I don't know about most, although I'm pretty sure they do, but OUR opponents better suit up 3 - CUZ WE ARE BRINGING IT THIS YEAR!!!

Suit 2 at your peril!!

[LATrueRedskin]

I don't know about most, although I'm pretty sure they do, but OUR opponents better suit up 3 - CUZ WE ARE BRINGING IT THIS YEAR!!!

Suit 2 at your peril!!

That's right!!

But I've never heard of a team consistently suiting up only 2 QB's during a season. Maybe for a game or two under extreme circumstances, but not for a complete season.

[darksome]

That's right!!

But I've never heard of a team consistently suiting up only 2 QB's during a season. Maybe for a game or two under extreme circumstances, but not for a complete season.

I remember when we played Philthy in the Body Bag Game! That was awesome! We had Brian Mitchell playing QB! People were being carried off the field left and right! Remember that? I don't know what year it was. You gotta ask one of the "stat gurus" that. Sean and Lavar would have loved to had been in that game making "train wreck" hits!! :banghead:

[LATrueRedskin]

I remember when we played Philthy in the Body Bag Game! That was awesome! We had Brian Mitchell playing QB! People were being carried off the field left and right! Remember that? I don't know what year it was. You gotta ask one of the "stat gurus" that. Sean and Lavar would have loved to had been in that game making "train wreck" hits!! :banghead:

Yeah that was insanity. Mitchell actually wasn't half bad for a guy who doesn't play QB.

[redskin_rich]

Teams usually suit up 3 but there are instances where they don't. Any of you all that remember the "body bag" game in '90 will know that we only had two QB's[Rutledge and Humphries] active for that game, Rypien was out with an injury prior to the game. Brian Mitchell was our emergency QB for that game and Gibbs did that alot with him to use the extra active spot somewhere else, usually to have 3 TE/HB in the game.
We could do it now with Tupa if they needed to.

Anyway, the most likely scenario I could see Campbell playing this year is if Ramsey goes down and Brunell plays like last year. I could see Gibbs going to the Rookie at that point but it would be past mid-season and the season would be lost.

[akhhorus]

There is a group of narcissists on this board that pose as actual Redskin fans. Yet, they are also the ones who will cheer like crazy if Ramsey wins us a Super Bowl. Go figure.

So, if you think Ramsey isn't a good qb, you're a narcissist who is posing a Skins fan? First off, thats a ridiculous statement. Second off, narcissist? Do you even know what that means?

I'll cheer like crazy if Ramsey wins the skins a super bowl, and I want him to prove me wrong. But I wouldn't be planning the party just yet. How about dealing with the reality of Ramsey. He isn't a great/very good/good QB.

[LATrueRedskin]

So, if you think Ramsey isn't a good qb, you're a narcissist who is posing a Skins fan? First off, thats a ridiculous statement. Second off, narcissist? Do you even know what that means?

I'll cheer like crazy if Ramsey wins the skins a super bowl, and I want him to prove me wrong. But I wouldn't be planning the party just yet. How about dealing with the reality of Ramsey. He isn't a great/very good/good QB.

I agree, though I feel this way about Campbell. I'll be estatic with whomever excels on our team no matter who he is. I have some reservations about Campbell, but I'll be rooting for him and I'll be happy to put my foot in my mouth if he becomes the next great. I don't really see it happening with either Ramsey or Campbell though.

[akhhorus]

I agree, though I feel this way about Campbell. I'll be estatic with whomever excels on our team no matter who he is. I have some reservations about Campbell, but I'll be rooting for him and I'll be happy to put my foot in my mouth if he becomes the next great. I don't really see it happening with either Ramsey or Campbell though.

My problem isnt with the judging of talent, but the assertion that you have to believe that Ramsey is a very good Qb if "you're a real redskin fan". And implied is that you're not a redskin fan if you think otherwise, and the people who don't think so are just trolling here from trouble. Thats ridiculous. Ramsey is not a good Qb, he could become a good one, but he hasn't shown that he will become one so far. It is wishful thinking to believe otherwise and to think that Ramsey is on a level of talent with the great QBs of today.

[LATrueRedskin]

My problem isnt with the judging of talent, but the assertion that you have to believe that Ramsey is a very good Qb if "you're a real redskin fan". And implied is that you're not a redskin fan if you think otherwise, and the people who don't think so are just trolling here from trouble. Thats ridiculous. Ramsey is not a good Qb, he could become a good one, but he hasn't shown that he will become one so far. It is wishful thinking to believe otherwise and to think that Ramsey is on a level of talent with the great QBs of today.

Fully agree.

[darksome]

I agree, though I feel this way about Campbell. I'll be estatic with whomever excels on our team no matter who he is. I have some reservations about Campbell, but I'll be rooting for him and I'll be happy to put my foot in my mouth if he becomes the next great. I don't really see it happening with either Ramsey or Campbell though.

In Campbell's defense, the guy hasn't even put on a uniform yet. Only shorts. So it is far too early to think that way about him.
But Raaammmsseeeeyyy! That is a horse of another color! I feel like this about him - he ain't done nothing and he ain't ever gonna do anything to prove me wrong about him. He had chances already. Look at how he showed his resolve in TC last year. He stunk it up.

Now, if he goes out and kicks butt - I like my "crow" with mustard! But somehow, I feel strongly I'll be having some yardbird instead!

Hey LA, that whistleandthumb guy called me a "narcissist". Now, he is both right and wrong. Wrong because it doesn't have anything to do REMOTELY with Ramsey (who can't possibly be one bcuz he is serving up some bad game right now) and he is right about me, if he means I love myself - cuz I loves me some me!!

But what I wanna know is - are those fighting words or what? Should I step to him, or let him slide with that? I put my cleats on just in case you said yeah!

[LATrueRedskin]

In Campbell's defense, the guy hasn't even put on a uniform yet. Only shorts. So it is far too early to think that way about him.
But Raaammmsseeeeyyy! That is a horse of another color! I feel like this about him - he ain't done nothing and he ain't ever gonna do anything to prove me wrong about him. He had chances already. Look at how he showed his resolve in TC last year. He stunk it up.

Now, if he goes out and kicks butt - I like my "crow" with mustard! But somehow, I feel strongly I'll be having some yardbird instead!

Hey LA, that whistleandthumb guy called me a "narcissist". Now, he is both right and wrong. Wrong because it doesn't have anything to do REMOTELY with Ramsey (who can't possibly be one bcuz he is serving up some bad game right now) and he is right about me, if he means I love myself - cuz I loves me some me!!

But what I wanna know is - are those fighting words or what? Should I step to him, or let him slide with that? I put my cleats on just in case you said yeah!


Keep your cool my man. whistleandthumb is good people. :)


I know Campbell hasn't played in the NFL yet and I'm not judging him on his non-NFL experience. I wasn't impressed with him much in college (relatively; I know Auburn did great and so did he, but I don't think he's an NFL QB, especially not right now). And I think Ramsey could still be a damn good QB if he's not jerked around anymore.

But I'm not too confident in anybody we have at the QB position. Our best chances are with Ramsey next year, so I say play him. If Campbell sees the playing field at all during the regular season next year, our season won't go anywhere.

[darksome]

Keep your cool my man. whistleandthumb is good people. :)


I know Campbell hasn't played in the NFL yet and I'm not judging him on his non-NFL experience. I wasn't impressed with him much in college (relatively; I know Auburn did great and so did he, but I don't think he's an NFL QB, especially not right now). And I think Ramsey could still be a damn good QB if he's not jerked around anymore.

But I'm not too confident in anybody we have at the QB position. Our best chances are with Ramsey next year, so I say play him. If Campbell sees the playing field at all during the regular season next year, our season won't go anywhere.

I agree with that. Unfortunately, that is correct.

[BandWagon]

I'm sure we will have 3 Qb's around at least in some games.

Yeah, Ramsey, Brunell and Hass all dressed each week this year...

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

im not going to lie....i want campbell to justify everything we gave up to get him, but i honestly dont givadamn who is our starting qb, as long as we win. whether thats ram, campbell or brunell. can we get one of these guys to get us to the promiseland??! please?!!

[LATrueRedskin]

im not going to lie....i want campbell to justify everything we gave up to get him, but i honestly dont givadamn who is our starting qb, as long as we win. whether thats ram, campbell or brunell. can we get one of these guys to get us to the promiseland??! please?!!

Boy do I ever hear you, Lady.

[lavarsamonster]

i just dont see campbell seeing the field at all, even if ramsey struggles, gibbs will just stick out the season with brunell, he wont throw his future into the fire and potentially destroy his confidence

[thecheat48]

i just dont see campbell seeing the field at all, even if ramsey struggles, gibbs will just stick out the season with brunell, he wont throw his future into the fire and potentially destroy his confidence

Lets just say that Ramsey gets hurt - dont want it to happen, but its not unheard of (double negative again - i live off these things) - and Brunell stinks it up in pre-season (and proves his game is done and is just an overpaid clipboard holder) but Campbell looks solid. Not exceptional, but solid.

Who gets the call? Who does Gibbs hand the team to?

This is a lot of "Ifs" but stranger things have happened. Their may be other scenarios that might put the skins in the same place.

I guess so much of it has to do with the pre-season and how Campbell develops and how Brunell looks. AND, of course Ramsey from game 1 - how he plays and if stays healthy....which i'm hoping he does.

[smoak]

O sorry i guess 3 do suit up for a game but not for every team because i know for a fact that not at least in every game that the broncos only took 2qbs and rod smith was the emergancy like either tupa or gardner is ours

You're correct in that there are exceptions but I believe the NFL allows a team to carry an emergency 3rd QB without it counting towards the active roster (i.e. it is a freebie). However, there are rules about how you can bring a third QB into the game and the person RARELY sees the field.

[joethefan]

I guess to me it is kind of interesting that a first round pick wont even be at the game

Ramsey was a first round pick and I don't think he started the season out...

[Chief Redskin]

I don't think we'll need Campbell this year, but if we do, he better be ready. Ramsey should have a breakout season and the Skins will end up trading Campbell two years from now(wasted pick, we should have drafted Heath Miller).

[smoak]

Ramsey was a first round pick and I don't think he started the season out...

Yeah, he didn't get into a game until Tennessee, correct?

All I know is that my blood is BOILING for the '05 season. I'm sick of losing to the Iggles and Cowpatties... We have to play a very determined and angry season this year. The playground bully is only allowed to give you a wedgie so many times before you snap and beat the ever loving snot out of him.

[darksome]

Yeah, he didn't get into a game until Tennessee, correct?

All I know is that my blood is BOILING for the '05 season. I'm sick of losing to the Iggles and Cowpatties... We have to play a very determined and angry season this year. The playground bully is only allowed to give you a wedgie so many times before you snap and beat the ever loving snot out of him.

Now THAT is funny!

I have a renewed fervor to crush the Cowsissies because of that picture you painted! :sfight:

[GibbsFan]

Campbell will most likely not take a snap in a regular game but if he does we are either gonna be very very good or the bottomfeeder of the NFL. Its much more likely though that we will suck if he has to play outside of preseason. Roethelisberger was/is in a unique situation where he had a great WR corps, solid OL, and a running game to go with a good D. I'm not ready to proclaim our wideouts as great, and the OL has had more holes than swiss cheese the last few years. In Portis we have a great back but teams will stack the run if we can't throw downfield some.

I don't have much confidence in Ramsey, he makes poor decisions, and has no touch. He tends to hold the ball too much & overthrow his targets; and our line is not very good in pass protection. It's unlikely that he will start all 16 games. Brunell's arm strength (or lack thereof) limits much of the passing game. Our best hope is to play the same great D, improve on ST, and minimize mistakes on Offense. Ram will get the opportunity, and I pray he makes the most of it, or 05 will be more of the same.

[redwolf1218]

i just dont see campbell seeing the field at all, even if ramsey struggles, gibbs will just stick out the season with brunell, he wont throw his future into the fire and potentially destroy his confidence
i think they could put him in near the end of a game if it's a blowout (yes i realize it's our offense i'm talking about, but i'm hopeful). he could just hand it off to the running back a few times to eat the clock and maybe throw a pass or 2 just to get some experience.

[RedHokieSkin]

Unless there is an injury, Campbell will be 3rd string, at least for the beginning of the season, so I doubt you will see him in a real game this year.

2nd string will come in if Ramsey goes down and a close game. If we could indeed blow someone out though, we could very well see Campbell.

[RedskinRyan]

campbell more than likely will not see any playing time this year, but never say never. if we are blowing out some team, what would be the point in taking out ramsey and putting brunell in?

[redwolf1218]

campbell more than likely will not see any playing time this year, but never say never. if we are blowing out some team, what would be the point in taking out ramsey and putting brunell in?
right, i'd like to see Ramsey and Portis resting if the game is decided, and go with Campbell and Nemo to eat the clock.

[redskin_rich]

2nd string will come in if Ramsey goes down and a close game. If we could indeed blow someone out though, we could very well see Campbell.
campbell more than likely will not see any playing time this year, but never say never. if we are blowing out some team, what would be the point in taking out ramsey and putting brunell in?
One thing you all have to remember, once you put your emergency 3rd QB in the game, you can't put your 1 or 2 QB back in that game, so it would have to be a blowout with very little time left for Gibbs to do something like that.

[RedskinRyan]

right, i'd like to see Ramsey and Portis resting if the game is decided, and go with Campbell and Nemo to eat the clock.

yeah seriously. when your blowing out a team and your subbing players out, you want to utilize that time to develop young players.

[CNYSkinFan]

How come I say Ramsey, Brunell, and Hasslebeck on the sidelines last year? Of course there are three QB's.
NFL rules alow for a team to keep 2 active Qb's on the game day roster and a third emergency QB. The 2 active QBs can play like normal. However thethird qb is an emergency option only. If the third QB comes in the game both of the other QBs have to be injured and can not return to the game.

Which means if Campbell is #3 as is thought he will be and he is playing there are some serious problems in Redskin town.

However if Campbel moves up to #2 by end of the year it is possible he will see some snaps.

[redwolf1218]

hey guys dont forget about Bryson Spinner too!
http://richmondspiders.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/spinner_bryson00.html

http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/spinner_bryson00.html

I've been reading up on him a little bit. He beat out Matt Schaub on the depth chart as a freshman at UVA. Also played basketball and ran track in highschool, set records in triple jump and 4x400 relay. was some kind of dorm monitor if that means anything (character?) and was a team captain 2 years. Sounds like an incredible athlete. Also, you dont go to Episcopal High School, then get into UVA and then U of R without some smarts. i hope he makes the practice squad.

[CNYSkinFan]

One thing you all have to remember, once you put your emergency 3rd QB in the game, you can't put your 1 or 2 QB back in that game, so it would have to be a blowout with very little time left for Gibbs to do something like that.

I am not sure even in a blow out that can happen. I am pretty sure the rule is the other 2 qbs have to be injured. if the Redskins violate that rule it could mean a sanction.

Anybody with any real knowledge on this particular rule?

[RedskinRyan]

well even if its a blow out and we put in our 3rd string(any difference from an emergency qb like gardner/tupa?), its not like we'd be passing alot, if at all. at this point, it would just be running out the clock.

[redwolf1218]

I am not sure even in a blow out that can happen. I am pretty sure the rule is the other 2 qbs have to be injured. if the Redskins violate that rule it could mean a sanction.

Anybody with any real knowledge on this particular rule?
The emergency (third) quarterback may now enter the game in just the fourth quarter, regardless if the other two quarterbacks are able to play. This means that if the third string quarterback enters the game, the first and/or second quarterback may re-enter, unlike the past two seasons where the emergency quarterback would only play off the first two were unable to resume play.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/index.nsf/Documents/0-rules
its at the bottom of that link, a 1995 rule change.

[darksome]

well even if its a blow out and we put in our 3rd string(any difference from an emergency qb like gardner/tupa?), its not like we'd be passing alot, if at all. at this point, it would just be running out the clock.

Last year, third string was an improvement!

[redskin_rich]

well even if its a blow out and we put in our 3rd string(any difference from an emergency qb like gardner/tupa?), its not like we'd be passing alot, if at all. at this point, it would just be running out the clock.
Thats a good point. It wouldn't be very good etiquette in a blow out to bring in another QB and start throwing bombs, except maybe against Dallass :D

[redwolf1218]

Thats a good point. It wouldn't be very good etiquette in a blow out to bring in another QB and start throwing bombs, except maybe against Dallass :D
yes, against Dallas, in a blow-out, i would recommend telling Campbell to fake the knee down, then drop back, and bomb!

[whistleandthumb]

Actually, anyone who doesn't like Ramsey, yet supports him if we march to a Bowl, IS being a true fan, since a true fan wants the team to do good, not just certain players. Know what I mean?

If you had a child that you wanted to go to medical school, and they wanted to be a musician (much to your chagrin), would you not support and/or applaud them if they landed atop Billboard's Top 100? I think so.

I understand what you mean, but I would also support my child while he WAS in music school or whatever. I'm not just going to support him after he has success, but I'm also going to support him during the process, while he goes through the ups and downs of learning to be a great musician.

See the difference?

[akhhorus]

I understand what you mean, but I would also support my child while he WAS in music school or whatever. I'm not just going to support him after he has success, but I'm also going to support him during the process, while he goes through the ups and downs of learning to be a great musician.

See the difference?

Yes, but Ramsey isn't my child. He plays for my favorite team. I root for the team, I want the team to win. If Ramsey isn't helping the team win, I can't root for him. And not rooting for Ramsey is very different than not rooting for the team. As I've said a ton of times: I want Ramsey to prove me wrong. But I don't see him as this great/good Qb y'all think he is. Potential is for rookies, and Ramsey's in his fourth year. He's out of all excuses after this coming season.

[whistleandthumb]

So, if you think Ramsey isn't a good qb, you're a narcissist who is posing a Skins fan? First off, thats a ridiculous statement. Second off, narcissist? Do you even know what that means?

I'll cheer like crazy if Ramsey wins the skins a super bowl, and I want him to prove me wrong. But I wouldn't be planning the party just yet. How about dealing with the reality of Ramsey. He isn't a great/very good/good QB.

Akh, matey, you have to read what my post was in response to. The comment I was quoting was in reference to people on this board actually rooting for Ramsey to fail. That would mean Redskin fans are actually wanting the QB to fail, so we can put Campbell in... and there are more than a few of those out there.

You don't have to think Ramsey is the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, as he is our Gibbs-chosen leader and Quarterback, I think he deserves maybe a LITTLE more than us rooting against him. Especially, since not 7 or 8 games ago, people were chanting for him to have the job over Brunell.

[akhhorus]

Akh, matey, you have to read what my post was in response to. The comment I was quoting was in reference to people on this board actually rooting for Ramsey to fail. That would mean Redskin fans are actually wanting the QB to fail, so we can put Campbell in... and there are more than a few of those out there.

You don't have to think Ramsey is the greatest thing since sliced bread. But, as he is our Gibbs-chosen leader and Quarterback, I think he deserves maybe a LITTLE more than us rooting against him. Especially, since not 7 or 8 games ago, people were chanting for him to have the job over Brunell.

I was never rooting against Ramsey. I was arguing that he's not this great QB which some people here believe he is. And anyone who wants Ramsey to fail just to get Campbell in is an idiot, but not a false fan. You want two good QBs on the roster.

[whistleandthumb]

Yes, but Ramsey isn't my child. He plays for my favorite team. I root for the team, I want the team to win. If Ramsey isn't helping the team win, I can't root for him. And not rooting for Ramsey is very different than not rooting for the team. As I've said a ton of times: I want Ramsey to prove me wrong. But I don't see him as this great/good Qb y'all think he is. Potential is for rookies, and Ramsey's in his fourth year. He's out of all excuses after this coming season.

My only argument for that, and this is just how I see it, is that Ramsey has not had the opportunity yet. I agree that this is his make or break year, but this is really the first year that he's going to have had the chance to prove anything. His first year starting was under Spurrier, and I think we'll all agree that he wasn't really in a system in which he could succeed. And despite that, he still did pretty okay, numbers-wise.

Last year, he came in late, and by the time he finally got going, the season ended. In his few game-stint, however, he played pretty well. So, really, in all honesty, this year is going to be his first real chance in a real system in the NFL.

[whistleandthumb]

Okay, I've just read this whole thread and realize that there's a lot of hatin' goin' on. So I'm going to just politely remove myself from this discussion, as it appears I'm going to just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[smoak]

All I know is that as of now Ramsey is our best shot at the playoffs and I want to go back to the playoffs... I'm sick of losing and not ready to want Campbell to learn on the job while we lose all over again.

I'll root and support anyone in a Redskins uniform, but the losing is starting to wear on me.

[redwolf1218]

My only argument for that, and this is just how I see it, is that Ramsey has not had the opportunity yet. I agree that this is his make or break year, but this is really the first year that he's going to have had the chance to prove anything. His first year starting was under Spurrier, and I think we'll all agree that he wasn't really in a system in which he could succeed. And despite that, he still did pretty okay, numbers-wise.

Last year, he came in late, and by the time he finally got going, the season ended. In his few game-stint, however, he played pretty well. So, really, in all honesty, this year is going to be his first real chance in a real system in the NFL.
true, and add to that it's his second year in the same system, and he's been involved in the entire offseason process, and he wont be wearing a boot and walking on crutches going into minicamp. all these things must add up to a marked improvement for the team, or else.

[whitskins]

hey guys dont forget about Bryson Spinner too!
http://richmondspiders.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/spinner_bryson00.html

http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/spinner_bryson00.html

I've been reading up on him a little bit. He beat out Matt Schaub on the depth chart as a freshman at UVA. Also played basketball and ran track in highschool, set records in triple jump and 4x400 relay. was some kind of dorm monitor if that means anything (character?) and was a team captain 2 years. Sounds like an incredible athlete. Also, you dont go to Episcopal High School, then get into UVA and then U of R without some smarts. i hope he makes the practice squad.

I think Spinner has some potential, not a lot but some. He was poised to beat out Schaub full time at UVA the year after they split the season until he was booted from UVA for a cheating scandal that lead to many expulsions at the school (at least this is the way I heard it).

I have only seen Spinner play at the high school level since I was in high school in the same conference as Episcopal when Spinner was tearing it up. He simply ate my school's team alive and was a monster, but that was just high school. Musgrave apparently likes him though since he was his O-coordinator at UVA and brought him into Jags camp last year and Skins camp this year.

[whitskins]

In response to this thread, I will just say that if Campbell pulls a Roethlesberger, I will be ecstatic... And if Ramsey pulls a Drew Brees, I will also be ecstatic. And if Sonny Jurgenson comes down from the booth and wins us 10 games... I will be ecstatic.

This offseason has really burned me out in terms of theorizing about who will be the best fit for our team and why, the only thing that matters to me now is to W-I-N. That's all I care about, at least nine of them, NOW.

If you wear a Redskins uniform in 05 then I will destroy my vocal cords screaming for you. All I ask for in return is some big fat W's. So Ramsey/Campbell/Brunell/Sonny, take us back to the promised land, I beg of you.

[Meatsnack]

In Campbell's defense, the guy hasn't even put on a uniform yet. Only shorts. So it is far too early to think that way about him.
But Raaammmsseeeeyyy! That is a horse of another color! I feel like this about him - he ain't done nothing and he ain't ever gonna do anything to prove me wrong about him. He had chances already. Look at how he showed his resolve in TC last year. He stunk it up.

Man, tough crowd. Ramsey had just gotten off crutches post-surgery on his foot. He couldn't walk without a limp. He went out and competed his best in TC and lost. He needed time to get the strength back in his leg. Who looked better by Week 8, Brunell or Ramsey?

[lavarsamonster]

Man, tough crowd. Ramsey had just gotten off crutches post-surgery on his foot. He couldn't walk without a limp. He went out and competed his best in TC and lost. He needed time to get the strength back in his leg. Who looked better by Week 8, Brunell or Ramsey?


good point

the qb pos will be ramseys until proven otherwise this year, brunell will need to step up in case he doesnt, campbell will play the carson palmer role from the bengals his first year

[skins4life24]

I guess to me it is kind of interesting that a first round pick wont even be at the game
there is no way he won't be at the game . . .gibbs will have him there so he can see when how it all works live

[2Cooley]

Man, tough crowd. Ramsey had just gotten off crutches post-surgery on his foot. He couldn't walk without a limp. He went out and competed his best in TC and lost. He needed time to get the strength back in his leg. Who looked better by Week 8, Brunell or Ramsey?
well in all fairness one could say that after Brunell had that injury in the giants game he was never the same after that and maybe he need a year to get the strength back. I am in no way supporting burnell but i am just tired of people finding excuses for every thing bad that he does and when he is supposed to have a good game and does it he gets treated like a god

[COUNCILMAN]

Everyone is tired of losing. I read it in virtually all the threads. Its a hard thing to root for a loser year after year when you have had a taste of the big dance so many times before.

Seems that most of us thought just having Gibbs walk through the front door would automatically put us in the win column, but I believe its painfully obvious now that Gibbs won before because of his system of building team unity among a bunch of average to good players. Just look at how few HOF players he had during the Superbowl years. Gibbs teams are TEAMS..and not a bunch of T.O.'s or Deion Sanders or Michael Vick flashing spotlight players.

For all of these reasons, it is evident why Greg Williams and his no name defense really meshed well with GIBBS last year. In fact, I think we will find that flashy loudmouth selfish players make very little impact in the Gibbs system. That will include Lavar, Sean Taylor, and anybody else who has the me me me, I, I, I complex. That is also why I am not worried about the middle linebacker position because we have a bunch of blue collar types who will just fit in to Gibbs/Williams way of doing things.

This is also another reason I believe that Patrick Ramsey will be a strong candidate for the pro bowl this year. He has the Gibbs attitude, and is buying into the sytem, and is working hard in the offseason to prepare and do the extra work. This is the Gibbs way and its going to be a winning way.

[BurgundyNGold]

well in all fairness one could say that after Brunell had that injury in the giants game he was never the same after that and maybe he need a year to get the strength back. I am in no way supporting burnell but i am just tired of people finding excuses for every thing bad that he does and when he is supposed to have a good game and does it he gets treated like a god
An equal argument could be made the Brunell was exactly the same QB before and after the Giants game -- a washed up one. It is 100% possible that we all think Ramsey played better than he actually did later in the year as compared to the Brunell measuring stick.

[COUNCILMAN]

An equal argument could be made the Brunell was exactly the same QB before and after the Giants game -- a washed up one. It is 100% possible that we all think Ramsey played better than he actually did later in the year as compared to the Brunell measuring stick.

Sounds like you have done an excellent job of buying into the doom and gloom. Whats it like in that dark room of yours?

[ryflan47]

Everyone is tired of losing. I read it in virtually all the threads. Its a hard thing to root for a loser year after year when you have had a taste of the big dance so many times before.

Seems that most of us thought just having Gibbs walk through the front door would automatically put us in the win column, but I believe its painfully obvious now that Gibbs won before because of his system of building team unity among a bunch of average to good players. Just look at how few HOF players he had during the Superbowl years. Gibbs teams are TEAMS..and not a bunch of T.O.'s or Deion Sanders or Michael Vick flashing spotlight players.

For all of these reasons, it is evident why Greg Williams and his no name defense really meshed well with GIBBS last year. In fact, I think we will find that flashy loudmouth selfish players make very little impact in the Gibbs system. That will include Lavar, Sean Taylor, and anybody else who has the me me me, I, I, I complex. That is also why I am not worried about the middle linebacker position because we have a bunch of blue collar types who will just fit in to Gibbs/Williams way of doing things.

This is also another reason I believe that Patrick Ramsey will be a strong candidate for the pro bowl this year. He has the Gibbs attitude, and is buying into the sytem, and is working hard in the offseason to prepare and do the extra work. This is the Gibbs way and its going to be a winning way.

For once, I agree with you. Ramsey and Gibbs are the perfect couple, matchmakers.com if you will. Ramsey fits all of the Gibbs prerequisite for a QB. (Which virtually is a quarterback with character).

[akhhorus]

An equal argument could be made the Brunell was exactly the same QB before and after the Giants game -- a washed up one. It is 100% possible that we all think Ramsey played better than he actually did later in the year as compared to the Brunell measuring stick.

And Ramsey throwing 3 INTs in one half doesn't exactly make you confident in his abilities.

[darksome]

Man, tough crowd. Ramsey had just gotten off crutches post-surgery on his foot. He couldn't walk without a limp. He went out and competed his best in TC and lost. He needed time to get the strength back in his leg. Who looked better by Week 8, Brunell or Ramsey?

As I posted before in regard to that question or scenario - Gibbs chose the lesser of two evils! Was my TV the only one on when Ramsey came in the Philthy game and said NO, Philthy should have the ball! And proceeded to giving it to them whenever he touched it?

[darksome]

In response to this thread, I will just say that if Campbell pulls a Roethlesberger, I will be ecstatic... And if Ramsey pulls a Drew Brees, I will also be ecstatic. And if Sonny Jurgenson comes down from the booth and wins us 10 games... I will be ecstatic.

This offseason has really burned me out in terms of theorizing about who will be the best fit for our team and why, the only thing that matters to me now is to W-I-N. That's all I care about, at least nine of them, NOW.

If you wear a Redskins uniform in 05 then I will destroy my vocal cords screaming for you. All I ask for in return is some big fat W's. So Ramsey/Campbell/Brunell/Sonny, take us back to the promised land, I beg of you.

And what will you do for Heath Shuler or Jeff George? LOL!

[darksome]

Sounds like you have done an excellent job of buying into the doom and gloom. Whats it like in that dark room of yours?

You don't exactly live in a lighthouse yourself, with that dim-lighting in which you view our future. No way some of these predictions you are laying out like Allan carpet will see fruition on the field. Especially that Ramsey one. Got any Sean Taylor predictions? I think you are probably the only guy who hasn't given me a shot on that subject. What do you think about him?

Hey, one other question that tickles the heck out of me. Why do you refer to Akh as Victor Von Doom?

[darksome]

For once, I agree with you. Ramsey and Gibbs are the perfect couple, matchmakers.com if you will. Ramsey fits all of the Gibbs prerequisite for a QB. (Which virtually is a quarterback with character).

I see divorce on the horizon.

Get the lovebirds an attorney as a present! LMAO!! :lol1:

[darksome]

well in all fairness one could say that after Brunell had that injury in the giants game he was never the same after that and maybe he need a year to get the strength back. I am in no way supporting burnell but i am just tired of people finding excuses for every thing bad that he does and when he is supposed to have a good game and does it he gets treated like a god

This letter only gets read if you actually mail it to Fed-Ex. Otherwise, Gibbs won't see it. He should. Part two of that whole mistake thing last year wears #11. But don't tell the Councilman that! You might get homework!

[2Cooley]

For once, I agree with you. Ramsey and Gibbs are the perfect couple, matchmakers.com if you will. Ramsey fits all of the Gibbs prerequisite for a QB. (Which virtually is a quarterback with character).

If he is such a good fit why did gibbs bring 2 of his own guys in (Brunell and Campbell)

[redwolf1218]

If he is such a good fit why did gibbs bring 2 of his own guys in (Brunell and Campbell)
So he can coach Campbell in the offense while making Ramsey look good next year and then trade Ramsey for a 1st round pick before his contract has to be renewed and thus recoup the pick he gave up for Campbell. that's my conspiracy theory. same way he traded away Jay Schraeder back in the day. shrewd. cunning.

[darksome]

So he can coach Campbell in the offense while making Ramsey look good next year and then trade Ramsey for a 1st round pick before his contract has to be renewed and thus recoup the pick he gave up for Campbell. that's my conspiracy theory. same way he traded away Jay Schraeder back in the day. shrewd. cunning.

Ooohhh no it isn't Red! I said that first! LOL!

But we can share! :-)

[whistleandthumb]

And Ramsey throwing 3 INTs in one half doesn't exactly make you confident in his abilities.
Good thing Peyton nor Favre have ever done that. They'd have never amounted to anything.

[redwolf1218]

Ooohhh no it isn't Red! I said that first! LOL!

But we can share! :-)
no way dude, i've been saying that since before you joined up in here! hey, great minds think a like. did i mention i have a tendency to repeat myself?

[whistleandthumb]

You don't exactly live in a lighthouse yourself, with that dim-lighting in which you view our future. No way some of these predictions you are laying out like Allan carpet will see fruition on the field. Especially that Ramsey one.

...Isn't saying, and so emphatically I might add, that those things WON'T come true just as ridiculuous a prediction as Councilman's original prediction? Also, I read his comment as saying that his personal opinion was that Ramsey was going to have a Pro Bowl year. So are we attacking his personal opinion? Or, are we just mis-reading what he wrote?

[redwolf1218]

i believe the plan is make Ramsey look great and then trade him. everyone thought Schraeder was awesome when we sent him to the Raiders for Jim Lachey. he could stand at the 20 and throw it threw the goal post uprights. he had probably the strongest arm in the league. he took over after Joey T. broke his leg and i was like "wow i havent seen an arm like that in a long time!" What does Gibbs do then? he brings in Doug Williams and beats the crap out of Denver in the SB. I couldnt believe when Schraeder got traded, and then he went on to do nothing, but we got Lachey for years to come afterwards. Then Gibbs brings in Rypien and lets him watch and learn, and wins another SB. Now he brings in Campbell, his next hand-picked QB of the future...history tends to repeat itself.

[darksome]

...Isn't saying, and so emphatically I might add, that those things WON'T come true just as ridiculuous a prediction as Councilman's original prediction? Also, I read his comment as saying that his personal opinion was that Ramsey was going to have a Pro Bowl year. So are we attacking his personal opinion? Or, are we just mis-reading what he wrote?

1st) There is no Pro-Bowl

2nd) There is no "we"

I am saying that Ramsey doesn't cast a PB "light" since we are on that subject. The good Councilman gives a good number of numbers so that he spins a twisted web, but the reality of what you see on TV is the "dark", as when I throw a beer bottle at it after another one of Ramsey's fruitless drives 4 and outs us and the D has to march back onto the field before they take a sip of gatorade! And that's the double truth Ruth!

[whistleandthumb]

i believe the plan is make Ramsey look great and then trade him. everyone thought Schraeder was awesome when we sent him to the Raiders for Jim Lachey. he could stand at the 20 and throw it threw the goal post uprights. he had probably the strongest arm in the league. he took over after Joey T. broke his leg and i was like "wow i havent seen an arm like that in a long time!" What does Gibbs do then? he brings in Doug Williams and beats the crap out of Denver in the SB. I couldnt believe when Schraeder got traded, and then he went on to do nothing, but we got Lachey for years to come afterwards. Then Gibbs brings in Rypien and lets him watch and learn, and wins another SB. Now he brings in Campbell, his next hand-picked QB of the future...history tends to repeat itself.
It's an interesting theory. This, however, would mean that Gibbs is probably working on a 5 year plan, as opposed to a 3 year plan. Will the rest of our team be too old in 4 years?

If we could do it, that would be awesome, but I'd rather go for the gold this year or next, and then try to sustain that until Gibbs is gone.

[darksome]

no way dude, i've been saying that since before you joined up in here! hey, great minds think a like. did i mention i have a tendency to repeat myself?

Ok, but can I just listen to one of them? LOL!

[redwolf1218]

It's an interesting theory. This, however, would mean that Gibbs is probably working on a 5 year plan, as opposed to a 3 year plan. Will the rest of our team be too old in 4 years?

If we could do it, that would be awesome, but I'd rather go for the gold this year or next, and then try to sustain that until Gibbs is gone.
i dont think Gibbs is planning only for himself and his current tenure here, but for the extended future as well. the way you avoid having the rest of your team get too old is to bring in backups who will eventually become replacements, guys like McCune, Wilson, Molinaro, Wilds, Nemo, White, etc.

[whistleandthumb]

1st) There is no Pro-Bowl

2nd) There is no "we"

I am saying that Ramsey doesn't cast a PB "light" since we are on that subject. The good Councilman gives a good number of numbers so that he spins a twisted web, but the reality of what you see on TV is the "dark", as when I throw a beer bottle at it after another one of Ramsey's fruitless drives 4 and outs us and the D has to march back onto the field before they take a sip of gatorade! And that's the double truth Ruth!
When has Ramsey had the opportunity to prove himself? And think carefully before you answer.

[redwolf1218]

Ok, but can I just listen to one of them? LOL!
ok here you go: Brunell is not done yet, Ramsey will be traded after next season for a 1st round pick, Campbell becomes the starter, and that QB Spinner makes the practice squad and backs up Campbell year after next.

[whistleandthumb]

i dont think Gibbs is planning only for himself and his current tenure here, but for the extended future as well. the way you avoid having the rest of your team get too old is to bring in backups who will eventually become replacements, guys like McCune, Wilson, Molinaro, Wilds, Nemo, White, etc.
Again, agreed. But we have some awesome talent on this team right now, and I'd hate to see it go to waste trying to build for a team 4 or 5 years down the line. I think Ramsey has the talent and the will to make something happen for us now.

[redwolf1218]

Again, agreed. But we have some awesome talent on this team right now, and I'd hate to see it go to waste trying to build for a team 4 or 5 years down the line. I think Ramsey has the talent and the will to make something happen for us now.
i agree, he does have the talent and he will be great, that's what i'm saying is the plan. but planning for the future is how Gibbs went to 4 SB's, winning 3 of them, all with different QB's, running backs, and receivers. the o-line with Bugel is the key.

[darksome]

When has Ramsey had the opportunity to prove himself? And think carefully before you answer.

When you throw an interception, which you can't do from the sidelines by the way, you also had the option of making a completion or throwing the ball away.

Every game he played, every interception he threw (from an over-throw or mis-read), every fumble he made, every drive he took an un-necessary sack - basically every game he played - was an opportunity! The only person that doesn't get an opportunity is the person on the sideline.

[darksome]

i agree, he does have the talent and he will be great, that's what i'm saying is the plan. but planning for the future is how Gibbs went to 4 SB's, winning 3 of them, all with different QB's, running backs, and receivers. the o-line with Bugel is the key.

For the record, yet again, I honestly want Ramsey to succeed this year, or any year thereafter. I think that RIGHT NOW, he is our best chance at winning, only because he knows the system, not that he is better than JC. But like Akh said, while I can talk about the potential of JC because he is a rook, I can't give Ramsey that nod because he isn't a rookie. He, unfortunately for him IMO, has to S.O.G.O.T.P!

[whistleandthumb]

When you throw an interception, which you can't do from the sidelines by the way, you also had the option of making a completion or throwing the ball away.

Every game he played, every interception he threw (from an over-throw or mis-read), every fumble he made, every drive he took an un-necessary sack - basically every game he played - was an opportunity! The only person that doesn't get an opportunity is the person on the sideline.
I'm sorry if you think coming into a game mid-way, having not practiced with the first team all week, and being asked to come from behind to win is considered a fair opportunity. Not many QB's are going to succeed in your eyes. And I wouldn't count on Jason Campbell on "succeeding" for you.


What a shame.

[darksome]

I'm sorry if you think coming into a game mid-way, having not practiced with the first team all week, and being asked to come from behind to win is considered a fair opportunity. Not many QB's are going to succeed in your eyes. And I wouldn't count on Jason Campbell on "succeeding" for you.


What a shame.

Now if JC only gets one game, as you have allotted, perhaps he won't.
But, multiply that by 23, the number he (Ramsey) started, toss in 6 more for good measure, and the vision is a little clearer for you.

The whole truth whistle, the whole truth. Not a bit and piece, the whole truth.

[redwolf1218]

For the record, yet again, I honestly want Ramsey to succeed this year, or any year thereafter. I think that RIGHT NOW, he is our best chance at winning, only because he knows the system, not that he is better than JC. But like Akh said, while I can talk about the potential of JC because he is a rook, I can't give Ramsey that nod because he isn't a rookie. He, unfortunately for him IMO, has to S.O.G.O.T.P!
i agree that right now Ramsey is our best chance at winning, and Gibbs will game plan around his strengths and away from his weaknesses. i think he will succeed, and then get traded, and then fade away in a system where too much is expected of him (like Schraeder).

[darksome]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!

I went over 350 posts and no one stopped me and poured the confetti!!

Where's the balloons? The parade? The stoppage of work??

What is wrong with you people??!!?? That was a major moment in history!!

Now I gotta settle for looking out for #500!!

I bet it was that whistleandthumb guys fault! :lol1:

[whistleandthumb]

The whole truth whistle, the whole truth. Not a bit and piece, the whole truth.

No, you're totally right, mate. I had no idea I was looking at it totally wrong. You've convinced me. Jason Campbell is awesome, and is our saviour. I hope Ramsey can pull it out this year, but, you're right, there's just nothing to show that it's going to happen. Ugh, another wasted year.

Well, at least JC is in the wings. Thanks for showing me the way. Couldn't have done it without ya.

[redwolf1218]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!

I went over 350 posts and no one stopped me and poured the confetti!!

Where's the balloons? The parade? The stoppage of work??

What is wrong with you people??!!?? That was a major moment in history!!

Now I gotta settle for looking out for #500!!

I bet it was that whistleandthumb guys fault! :lol1:
congrats dude, i've enjoyed your posts.

[whistleandthumb]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!

I went over 350 posts and no one stopped me and poured the confetti!!

Where's the balloons? The parade? The stoppage of work??

What is wrong with you people??!!?? That was a major moment in history!!

Now I gotta settle for looking out for #500!!

I bet it was that whistleandthumb guys fault! :lol1:
Sorry, mate.


I shower you with GOBS of confetti and praise!!! You made it!! 350 MAGICAL POSTS!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!

Now, you can be a thread-starter... LOOK OUT hR!! :)

[darksome]

Sorry, mate.


I shower you with GOBS of confetti and praise!!! You made it!! 350 MAGICAL POSTS!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!

Now, you can be a thread-starter... LOOK OUT hR!! :)

Shhh!! I started a thread last week! Don't tell anyone! That's 10 demerits! LOL!

[whistleandthumb]

Shhh!! I started a thread last week! Don't tell anyone! That's 10 demerits! LOL!
REBEL!!! It's alright... I'll keep it a secret. Other than it's now posted all over this thread. Oh well, only you, Red, and myself are the ones still interested in this thread, so there's no worries.

[darksome]

No, you're totally right, mate. I had no idea I was looking at it totally wrong. You've convinced me. Jason Campbell is awesome, and is our saviour. I hope Ramsey can pull it out this year, but, you're right, there's just nothing to show that it's going to happen. Ugh, another wasted year.

Well, at least JC is in the wings. Thanks for showing me the way. Couldn't have done it without ya.

Whistle, THAT is what I am here for my friend!

With me here, your future is so bright, you don't need a flashlight!!!!

[whistleandthumb]

Whistle, THAT is what I am here for my friend!

With me here, your future is so bright, you don't need a flashlight!!!!

Um, all your posts aren't going to rhyme... are they?

[darksome]

congrats dude, i've enjoyed your posts.

Thank you, thank you Red! My pleasure!

[darksome]

Um, all your posts aren't going to rhyme... are they?

Only the ones I don't put any thought into.

[whistleandthumb]

Only the ones I don't put any thought into.
Well, then how come all your other posts didn't rhyme?



(Just kidding. Sorry, that was just too easy.)

[redwolf1218]

REBEL!!! It's alright... I'll keep it a secret. Other than it's now posted all over this thread. Oh well, only you, Red, and myself are the ones still interested in this thread, so there's no worries.
this is the NFL and QB's traditionally take time to develop. there's a long list of guys who held the clipboard first, and then came in and did well (Steve Young, Mark Rypien, Joe Theisman, McNair, etc. i think Campbell will get the opportunity to watch and learn rather than be thrown to the wolves like Shuler, but he must be ready, just in case, and i think he will be, even if it is just with a reduced playbook at first.

[darksome]

Well, then how come all your other posts didn't rhyme?



(Just kidding. Sorry, that was just too easy.)

I gave you that one on purpose whistleandthumb! You owe me one later!

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Yes, he will be 3rd string, but if something happens do we really want Brunell to go in. I know that I don't. I can't stand the fact that he helped throw last year out the window.
the best thing for us would be for Campbell to earn the 2nd string job. Please, keep Mark off the field....