Where's Carlos Rogers?

[bwparker]

I've seen alot of talk about Sean Taylor(Criminal Accusations) and Jason Campbell(This year's #2 pick) and Robert "Monster Pecs" McCune(Late round pick). Have we forgotten about Carlos Rogers? Our #1 pick this year and the #9 overall? Not only was he our highest pick this year and will be commanding the most cap room of any rookie, but he has the best chance to start of any rookie too. If you can call it a "chance" everyone KNOWS he will be starting by the end of the season.

But I haven't heard spit about him. Is this a bad sign? Maybe he isn't progressing very fast. Or is it a good sign? We have heard ALOT about ST over the past year...and look where thats landed us.

[redwolf1218]

i have been wondering the same thing. everyone seems to be buzzing about Jason Campbell, nothing but praise there...but nothing at all about Carlos.

[SkinsKY]

I'm not going to be worried because they haven't talked about him much. I think the offseason makes us fans prone to overanalyzing things, so it's probably better to hear nothing.

[bwparker]

I'm not going to be worried because they haven't talked about him much. I think the offseason makes us fans prone to overanalyzing things, so it's probably better to hear nothing.
You got a point there. I'm not worried necessarily...I just wish we'd hear less about the #2 pick thats gonna ride the bench for a while and more about the #1 who is gonna START at an integral position. ya know?

[BigPlayJay]

I think all the buzz about Campbell is because he was a a bit of a controversial pick, wheras Rogers was a "need" pick.

Rogers is just filling a role and has been flying under the radar so far. Makes me happy. I am a big believer that alot of our high profile rookies have performed badly becaue of all the media pressure in DC.

[bwparker]

I think all the buzz about Campbell is because he was a a bit of a controversial pick, wheras Rogers was a "need" pick.

Rogers is just filling a role and has been flying under the radar so far. Makes me happy. I am a big believer that alot of our high profile rookies have performed badly becaue of all the media pressure in DC.
Its precisely because we NEED him that I want to hear more about him. If Campbell is a total flop this season...its ok, because he isn't playing and he has the cushion of a starter in front of him. I want to know how Rogers is doing because we need him to play well for a our D to be successful. If we are sending blitzes at the opposing QB and they are chucking the ball right past Rogers...we're in T-R-ouble.

[joethefan]

Id rather not hear about Rodgers, because if I hear about him then the league will as well....we may wanna hold onto our little surprise as much as possible.

[bwparker]

Id rather not hear about Rodgers, because if I hear about him then the league will as well....we may wanna hold onto our little surprise as much as possible.
Whether he's heard about or not, you know that our D as a whole will be respected next season and C. Rogers will be viewed as the weak point whenever he's on the field because he's a rookie. He's gonna get tested early and often. I hope he's up to it.

[redskin_rich]

You will get your fill of news and talk about Carlos next month when the contract negotiations start.

[BigPlayJay]

You will get your fill of news and talk about Carlos next month when the contract negotiations start.


Words of wisdom!

[smoak]

I expect Carlos Rogers to do well, but still make some rookie mistakes. I do not think he'll necessarily be starting unless there is an injury.

[joethefan]

Whether he's heard about or not, you know that our D as a whole will be respected next season and C. Rogers will be viewed as the weak point whenever he's on the field because he's a rookie. He's gonna get tested early and often. I hope he's up to it.

HE willl be fine...GW will not put him in a position to fail...he'll have to earn some stripes just like everyone other rookie did.

[bwparker]

I expect Carlos Rogers to do well, but still make some rookie mistakes. I do not think he'll necessarily be starting unless there is an injury.
He won't start the first few games, but I expect him to be worked in more and more untill he's starting by mid-late season(kinda like ST did, but without any injuries I hope)

[smoak]

He won't start the first few games, but I expect him to be worked in more and more untill he's starting by mid-late season(kinda like ST did, but without any injuries I hope)

Hopefully you are right. That would mean he is doing well enough that the coaches can't keep him out, but I don't assume that will be the case. I'm expecting mid season at best (barring injury).

[Redskinmayhem]

I think it's good news. We need more Darrell Green and Art Monk type guys that not necessarily shy away from the spotlight but tend to stay quiet and do their talking on the field. I hope C-Rog is that type of guy....I think right now, the news stories go where the controversy is and in the Skins case, that's with ST, and nobody loves a QB controversy like the Washington D.C. media, even a quasi-fabricated one. I call it that because I believe that Gibbs will allow Ram a good amount of time to play this season. But, alas, that is a discussion for another thread....

[SkinsKY]

He won't start the first few games, but I expect him to be worked in more and more untill he's starting by mid-late season(kinda like ST did, but without any injuries I hope)

I agree. I doubt he'll start in the beginning, but I think he'll see a good bit of playing time. Probably more than Taylor did in his first couple of games.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I think the less we hear the better. At least the way things have gone in the past. I hope he is a slient player who does his job and doesn't have to talk. Play is louder than words anyways.

[skinfanjon]

It is a blessing that we have heard nothing about our top pick. The only news this time of year is injuries, contract disputes, and criminal charges. Rogers seems like the type of guy who can avoid those issues and just play football, which is why I wanted him in the first place. Not to mention he was practically begging to GW to bring him to Washington. HE called 6 times asking to be a Redskin! Gotta love that.

[Redskin4Life]

I've seen alot of talk about Sean Taylor(Criminal Accusations) and Jason Campbell(This year's #2 pick) and Robert "Monster Pecs" McCune(Late round pick). Have we forgotten about Carlos Rogers? Our #1 pick this year and the #9 overall? Not only was he our highest pick this year and will be commanding the most cap room of any rookie, but he has the best chance to start of any rookie too. If you can call it a "chance" everyone KNOWS he will be starting by the end of the season.

But I haven't heard spit about him. Is this a bad sign? Maybe he isn't progressing very fast. Or is it a good sign? We have heard ALOT about ST over the past year...and look where thats landed us.
I think all the buzz about Campbell, McCune is because the media wants a quaterback controversy and MLB is the only TRUE open starting spot on the #3 total defense from last year. The media knows there is NO story when it comes to Carlos; that position's all his when the time is right.

The QB position was a BIG problem for us last year on O and the fact that Coach Gibbs gave up a 1st next year for this guy raises some eyebrows about why. The idea of a quarterback controversy is more appealing to the sports gurus than competition at CB.

Plus, the MLB hole seems more of a concern since we've brought in 20 GUYS TO TRY OUT AT THE POSITION?!?!? JK, but there does seem to be a major emphasis on this position, more so than CB. Plus, MLB is the defensive QB for GW's defense so there is lots to discuss there.

IMHO, less talk about us is good. Think about all the offseason talk Philly HAD in the past and New England got the past 4 years...

[bwparker]

I think all the buzz about Campbell, McCune is because the media wants a quaterback controversy and MLB is the only TRUE open starting spot on the #3 total defense from last year. The media knows there is NO story when it comes to Carlos; that position's all his when the time is right.

The QB position was a BIG problem for us last year on O and the fact that Coach Gibbs gave up a 1st next year for this guy raises some eyebrows about why. The idea of a quarterback controversy is more appealing to the sports gurus than competition at CB.

Plus, the MLB hole seems more of a concern since we've brought in 20 GUYS TO TRY OUT AT THE POSITION?!?!? JK, but there does seem to be a major emphasis on this position, more so than CB. Plus, MLB is the defensive QB for GW's defense so there is lots to discuss there.

IMHO, less talk about us is good. Think about all the offseason talk Philly HAD in the past and New England got the past 4 years...
Very true, very true. He's just the player I'm MOST excited about personally...and jI want to read a bunch of articles about how he's grasping the system really well and he's such a beast and he and Springs are best friends and they are gonna get 15 interceptions this year and butterflies will rain down on the field everytime he intercepts a pass...

...um...

...you know the usual stuff you read about a #1 pick. I guess that stuff comes once TC starts. :cry: I want TC to start

[redwolf1218]

IMHO, less talk about us is good. Think about all the offseason talk Philly HAD in the past and New England got the past 4 years...
a quick scan of recent Washington Post articles about the Redskins paints a rather grizzly picture, with a few bright spots thrown in there...I am also starving for more good news.
Hearing Is Back On
LaVar Arrington's hearing for a grievance against the Redskins is back on, two sources said. The hearing is scheduled for July 18.

Mark Maske's NFL Insider
Gibbs, Ramsey Key
The Redskins will need better play from quarterback Patrick Ramsey and innovative play calling from Coach Joe Gibbs to succeed.

NFL Flags Redskins
The NFL has stripped the Redskins of three workout days for violating NFL training policies.

Pro Football
Police Continue Probe
Miami-Dade County police are continuing to investigate other events that occurred last Wednesday night in conjunction with Redskins safety Sean Taylor's arrest on felony assault charges.

Taylor Out of ActivitiesJoe Gibbs says that the Redskins have decided to excuse Sean Taylor from the rest of the offseason.

Portis, Ohalete SettleClinton Portis settles a dispute with former teammate Ifeanyi Ohalete by agreeing to pay Ohalete $18,000 of the $20,000 that Ohalete claims he was owed for selling his jersey number to Portis.

:rolleyes:

Michael Wilbon
Red Flag for Redskins
The Redskins have some serious questions to answer about Sean Taylor's future in Washington because the player has proven he has no regard for authority.

Tony Kornheiser
A Redskins Headache
At what point does somebody in a position of authority with the Redskins look at the volatile history of Sean Taylor's tenure here and ask, "Are we sure we want this guy?"

Gouveia Looks for Job (Post, June 11, 2005; Page E03)

Redskins Sign Dyson (AP, June 7, 2005; 12:00 AM)

Taylor Posts Bond: Redskins Safety Is Released After Posting Bond (Post, June 6, 2005; Page E01)

Police Charge Taylor: Redskins Safety Was Charged With Aggravated Assault, Simple Battery According to Two Reports (Post, June 5, 2005; Page E01)

Redskins Cut Morton (Post, June 4, 2005; Page E05)

Police Seeking Taylor: Redskins Safety Is A 'Person of Interest' (Post, June 4, 2005; Page E01)

NFL Probes Redskins (Post, June 3, 2005; Page E01)

Adverse Programming: Campbell Overcame Many Obstacles at Auburn (Post, May 30, 2005; Page D01)

An Accurate Pick (Post, May 30, 2005; Page D10)

One Small Leap: Campbell Carries Small-Town Values as Redskins' Newest Hope (Post, May 29, 2005; Page E01)

No Deal for Corner (Post, May 27, 2005; Page D03)

Redskins Are Limited (Post, May 17, 2005; Page D05)

Gibbs Feels 'Great': Redskins Coach Talks About His Health and His Teams at News Conference (Post, May 15, 2005; Page E04)

Gibbs Has Procedure: Redskins Coach Had Stent Inserted to Unclog Artery, Says He Has Had "No Ill Effects" Prior or Since (Post, May 12, 2005; Page D01)

Pro Football: Redskins, Veteran Linebacker Holdman Agree to a Deal (Post, May 12, 2005; Page D02)

[skinswin]

When Rodgers is signed I think that's when the momentum of us hearing more about him will begin.

And why aren't the skins dratees signed yet anyway? What's the hold up? Everyone is slotted so why the delay?

[bwparker]

When Rodgers is signed I think that's when the momentum of us hearing more about him will begin.

And why aren't the skins dratees signed yet anyway? What's the hold up? Everyone is slotted so why the delay?
I'm not going to worry about that until we are closer to TC

[chrisbcbu]

Here is the diary of Carlos Rogers.

http://sports.ign.com/articles/621/621828p1.html

At Camp
I've been to a couple camps already, and working out with the vets, I can already tell the difference in speed. Everybody is fast, and experience really plays a big role. In the NFL, the fourth receiver can beat you just as bad as the first receiver. Everyone runs their routes sharper, they anticipate plays better, and if you make one mistake, they're by you.

One thing the coaches are preaching to us is how important it is physically to take care of your body. Make sure you eat right, continue to work out and stretch. Those are the most important things. Mentally, you need to be prepared for every play, every match-up. In college, you get away with a lot of things because of talent. In the NFL, you have to be focused in on every situation. Everyone in the NFL has talent. The difference here is knowing exactly how to react to each situation.

When it comes to this season, I just want quarterbacks to know that I'm not an easy first down. I'm going to study film on everyone, every situation because I know when they look over at me, they see a rookie, and they're going to try and test me, but I'm going to go out there and try to make some plays.

I'm the new Redskins cornerback.

And I have a lot to live up to.

[The Skinsinator]

It is a blessing that we have heard nothing about our top pick. The only news this time of year is injuries, contract disputes, and criminal charges. Rogers seems like the type of guy who can avoid those issues and just play football, which is why I wanted him in the first place. Not to mention he was practically begging to GW to bring him to Washington. HE called 6 times asking to be a Redskin! Gotta love that.

That is indeed very encouraging how he really wanted to be a Skin. The guy seems like a class act through and through. As does most of our draftees. I think as long as Gibbs as in charge this will definetely continue.

[The Skinsinator]

Here is the diary of Carlos Rogers.

http://sports.ign.com/articles/621/621828p1.html

From those quotes, this guy is going to be way different that Fred Smoot off the field. He sounds very serious about his job and a helluva lot more humble than Fred. Redskin fans will enjoy having not 1 but 2 physical corners this season. As will Gregg Williams.

[COUNCILMAN]

I've seen alot of talk about Sean Taylor(Criminal Accusations) and Jason Campbell(This year's #2 pick) and Robert "Monster Pecs" McCune(Late round pick). Have we forgotten about Carlos Rogers? Our #1 pick this year and the #9 overall? Not only was he our highest pick this year and will be commanding the most cap room of any rookie, but he has the best chance to start of any rookie too. If you can call it a "chance" everyone KNOWS he will be starting by the end of the season.

But I haven't heard spit about him. Is this a bad sign? Maybe he isn't progressing very fast. Or is it a good sign? We have heard ALOT about ST over the past year...and look where thats landed us.


Maybe you would feel better if he rode a motorcycle off a cliff and broke his back and made ESPN? Or perhaps it would make you feel better if he went to a nightclub and was seen on video tape with a missing girl, and CNN was all over that story? Or maybe we should be happy to hear all about Carlos everyday because he really wanted to be drafted by Atlanta, and now demands to be traded?

Be glad...be very glad that you don't hear a thing about Carlos Rogers. This guy reminds me of Darrell Green. The only time we will hear about him is on the football field when he is doing something spectacular, and most of the time you won't hear his name mentioned even on the field because people will throw AWAY from him. Invisible players have a redeeming quality sometimes.

[redskin_rich]

Here is the diary of Carlos Rogers.

http://sports.ign.com/articles/621/621828p1.html
Another # change? Why didn't he just ask for 22 to begin with?

[IowaSkinsFan]

You will get your fill of news and talk about Carlos next month when the contract negotiations start.

Man, we are on the same page, day in and day out.

[skins111111]

no news is good news.....................90% of all news reported is bad news anyway................I take that as hes keeping his nose clean and behaving himself unlike some other players I will fail to mention

[bwparker]

Maybe you would feel better if he rode a motorcycle off a cliff and broke his back and made ESPN? Or perhaps it would make you feel better if he went to a nightclub and was seen on video tape with a missing girl, and CNN was all over that story? Or maybe we should be happy to hear all about Carlos everyday because he really wanted to be drafted by Atlanta, and now demands to be traded?


Why would any of that make me feel better? I just want to hear how he is progressing in our Defense. How he is in the locker room. Whether or not he'll start and how dominant he will be when he finally does. Why did you get all confrontational?

[COUNCILMAN]

Why would any of that make me feel better? I just want to hear how he is progressing in our Defense. How he is in the locker room. Whether or not he'll start and how dominant he will be when he finally does. Why did you get all confrontational?

Didn't mean it as a confrontation. I was just illustrating that how good it is that we have a player who is NOT in the news, not even a little but, and that can be good.

It was more of a dig on the high profile players like Winslow and Taylor, but it had nothing to do with being confrontational. I'm not mad about it, I thrilled that we have a player like him who is low key.

I apologize if I made you feel that way.

[SkinsKY]

Maybe you would feel better if he rode a motorcycle off a cliff and broke his back and made ESPN? Or perhaps it would make you feel better if he went to a nightclub and was seen on video tape with a missing girl, and CNN was all over that story? Or maybe we should be happy to hear all about Carlos everyday because he really wanted to be drafted by Atlanta, and now demands to be traded?

How is this necessary? You should really consider your wording if you are not trying to offend someone.

[bwparker]

K...I musta just been reading something into it that wasn't there ;) no hard feelings.

I agree that its good that his face isn't plastered everywhere. But its getting close to that time of year when the sportswriters get all glossy eyed and start writing dreamy articles about how dominant unproven player might become...I want to read a couple of those about C. Rog. :D

[BIGSEF3]

I think we haven't heard much about rogers BECAUSE he is such a good cornerback. Most writers would rather ignore the fact that we UPGRADED at corner this offseason. They would rather focus on the fact that we didn't resign fred smoot. If they focused on Rogers, it would put a positive spin on our offseaon, and most sports writers would rather criticize the few BAD things that have happened to us, than focus on all the GOOD things we've accomplished.

Not hearing about Rogers tells me he is doing well. If he was doing bad, I'm sure it would be in the news.

[The Skinsinator]

I think we haven't heard much about rogers BECAUSE he is such a good cornerback. Most writers would rather ignore the fact that we UPGRADED at corner this offseason. They would rather focus on the fact that we didn't resign fred smoot. If they focused on Rogers, it would put a positive spin on our offseaon, and most sports writers would rather criticize the few BAD things that have happened to us, than focus on all the GOOD things we've accomplished.

Not hearing about Rogers tells me he is doing well. If he was doing bad, I'm sure it would be in the news.

We havent upgraded yet. I think in time we will. Rogers has to prove it on the field first. Hes not in the SEC anymore.

[Ibleedburgundy]

I think all the buzz about Campbell is because he was a a bit of a controversial pick, wheras Rogers was a "need" pick.

Rogers is just filling a role and has been flying under the radar so far. Makes me happy. I am a big believer that alot of our high profile rookies have performed badly becaue of all the media pressure in DC.


I think you might be on to something there.

[COUNCILMAN]

I think we haven't heard much about rogers BECAUSE he is such a good cornerback. Most writers would rather ignore the fact that we UPGRADED at corner this offseason. They would rather focus on the fact that we didn't resign fred smoot. If they focused on Rogers, it would put a positive spin on our offseaon, and most sports writers would rather criticize the few BAD things that have happened to us, than focus on all the GOOD things we've accomplished.

Not hearing about Rogers tells me he is doing well. If he was doing bad, I'm sure it would be in the news.

That was my original point. We only hear about the motorcycle accidents and gun waving and kidnappings and wars and etc. etc.

When is the last time you heard about "Today Peyton Manning sat around his house watching film on cornerbacks...later that evening he took his wife to dinner...I'm Tom Brokaw and thats our report tonight".

[HanburgerBum]

I've seen alot of talk about Sean Taylor(Criminal Accusations) and Jason Campbell(This year's #2 pick) and Robert "Monster Pecs" McCune(Late round pick). Have we forgotten about Carlos Rogers? Our #1 pick this year and the #9 overall? Not only was he our highest pick this year and will be commanding the most cap room of any rookie, but he has the best chance to start of any rookie too. If you can call it a "chance" everyone KNOWS he will be starting by the end of the season.

But I haven't heard spit about him. Is this a bad sign? Maybe he isn't progressing very fast. Or is it a good sign? We have heard ALOT about ST over the past year...and look where thats landed us.


I know the popular assumption is that Rogers will have the best chance to start among the rookies. But, I have a hunch Campbell will start a game before Rogers.

While Gibbs has not started rookie QBs in the past, I think the Brunell experiment has taught the coach something. Experience doesn't mean crap if the guy can't play. In today's NFL, rookies are starting earlier than ever before. Campbell strikes me as being more ready than a typical rookie QB prospect. He had four full seasons in arguably the best conference in college, and he has the experience of having to endure four different coordinators. He is mature and poised.

It is clear that Gibbs does not have a great deal of confidence in Ramsey. A couple of bad losses, and the hook may be out. Gibbs has got to know that he can't trot out Brunell again. So, the Jason Campbell era may start sooner than you think.

On the other hand, Gregg Williams is likely to begin the season with Springs and Harris as the starters and Rogers in some packages. The defense should be fine, and there would be no need to rush Rogers in to start.

[bwparker]

Campbell, MAY start before Rogers(Although I tend to think Rogers has a better shot....not a huge point of contention though). But Rogers will definitely play in the reg. season before Campbell does. As you said, he'll probably be in some packages, at least. I doubt Gibbs will have a double QB package:D Although that would be sweet. The Defense would be SOOO confused :lol1:

[guinness4health]

with the type of workouts that have been held to date there is nothing that carlos can really show us....once training camp opens up there is going to be plenty of talk about carlos....


and by the way i am happy not hearing from carlos or about carlos because i am hoping that it is a sign of humility....i have been waiting a while for a humble defensive back that is concerned more with doing his job than seeing his name in the headlines.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

It is a blessing that we have heard nothing about our top pick. The only news this time of year is injuries, contract disputes, and criminal charges. Rogers seems like the type of guy who can avoid those issues and just play football, which is why I wanted him in the first place. Not to mention he was practically begging to GW to bring him to Washington. HE called 6 times asking to be a Redskin! Gotta love that.
i agree. i think its a great thing that we arent hearing anything about carlos right now. i think when mini camp starts out, we'll start to hear more about how he is progressing. right now is the worst part about being a football fan. everyone is reaching for news.

[2Cooley]

Campbell, MAY start before Rogers(Although I tend to think Rogers has a better shot....not a huge point of contention though). But Rogers will definitely play in the reg. season before Campbell does. As you said, he'll probably be in some packages, at least. I doubt Gibbs will have a double QB package:D Although that would be sweet. The Defense would be SOOO confused :lol1:
I agree because in the bears game as soon as they go three wide we should see rogers

[skins111111]

IMO- JC won't start a game this year and probably next....however CR will be our starter by mid season-------I really hope this to be true......it would mean Ram is shining and Carlos has the stuff.

[The Skinsinator]

IMO- JC won't start a game this year and probably next....however CR will be our starter by mid season-------I really hope this to be true......it would mean Ram is shining and Carlos has the stuff.

I agree. I cant see Gibbs going with a rookie at all. The only plausible scenario I could see this is if Ramsey (and Brunnel for that matter) play horribly and the season is lost. I dont see that happening.

[EberKain]

Good for us, im sure he will be huge on the field. First time he runs over someone and there left saying "What the hell was that?", I think people will start talking about him.

[colkurtz]

The kid is a quiet, serious type who is staying out of trouble. What's not to like?

He proably won't start but I see him moving into the lineup early under the Gregg William's umbrella. Williams likes to keep his guys fresh, hungry and fast with lots of substitutions.

We need more hardworking team players such as him and Cooley - rather than [probably] more talented head-cases like Taylor, who may play or be watching the games from a jail cell.

[portis2endzone]

whats wrong with being quiet for camp. wasnt marcus washington on the quiet side last year? he turned out pretty good.

[gibbs4pres]

Accually what this all boils down to is lazy media. It's not flashy and it takes alittle bit of work. They get like 2 statements and go write a story. No research, no development. Just bust it out. That's why we all love those NFL films Bio's. By the way did anyone see the one they had on Riggins the other day. SWEET! The man was awesome! :typeR2:

[COUNCILMAN]

Campbell, MAY start before Rogers(Although I tend to think Rogers has a better shot....not a huge point of contention though). But Rogers will definitely play in the reg. season before Campbell does. As you said, he'll probably be in some packages, at least. I doubt Gibbs will have a double QB package:D Although that would be sweet. The Defense would be SOOO confused :lol1:

Campbell won't be starting unless some devastating injuries occur this year. And he may not start next year either if Ramsey does as well as I think he will. In fact, despite all you folks who have thrown Ramsey out with the bathwater.....if Patrick is great this year and next year and the Redskins make the playoffs 2 years in a row and Patrick signs a new long term contract in 2007...then what happens to Campbell?

[PyroGenic]

Campbell won't be starting unless some devastating injuries occur this year. And he may not start next year either if Ramsey does as well as I think he will. In fact, despite all you folks who have thrown Ramsey out with the bathwater.....if Patrick is great this year and next year and the Redskins make the playoffs 2 years in a row and Patrick signs a new long term contract in 2007...then what happens to Campbell?


well Ramsey has yet to play a full season so I guess that's when campbell will have his chance to shine.

[skinfan43]

Campbell won't be starting unless some devastating injuries occur this year. And he may not start next year either if Ramsey does as well as I think he will. In fact, despite all you folks who have thrown Ramsey out with the bathwater.....if Patrick is great this year and next year and the Redskins make the playoffs 2 years in a row and Patrick signs a new long term contract in 2007...then what happens to Campbell?
Man, I hope you're right, I'd LOVE to have that kind of "problem", kind of like Brees & the Bolts situation. If we see Campbell this year, it's probably because Ramsey got hurt or failed, neither of which is good for our Skins. BTW, how weird was Brunell's sudden demise last year - from top 10 career passer rating to that crap??? Something doesn't match up, in my mind... but that's another thread somewhere, probably...

[BigPlayJay]

Accually what this all boils down to is lazy media. It's not flashy and it takes alittle bit of work. They get like 2 statements and go write a story. No research, no development. Just bust it out.


You are right on!

The media is so lame these days. I can't believe that some of these people are paid for the articles they write. Makes me wish I had gotten a degree in journalism because I know I could do a better job covering the Skins than most of them.

[bwparker]

Campbell won't be starting unless some devastating injuries occur this year. And he may not start next year either if Ramsey does as well as I think he will. In fact, despite all you folks who have thrown Ramsey out with the bathwater.....if Patrick is great this year and next year and the Redskins make the playoffs 2 years in a row and Patrick signs a new long term contract in 2007...then what happens to Campbell?
IF that happens, I'll be extremely happy. I'll point at Ahk and laugh. To which he'll say "I SAID I hoped Ramsey proved me WRONG." :lol1:
Then we'll get some sweet trade value for Campbell...and his chuncky chicken soup.:D

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

finally, some news on mr. rogers....bittersweet depending on how you look at it.

Rookie cornerback Carlos Rogers, the ninth pick of the 2005 draft, was unable to participate in yesterday's minicamp session because of a sprained ankle, but he has already made a positive impression on the coaching staff.

Gregg Williams, assistant head coach-defense, said the coaches and trainers had to demand that Rogers not continue to practice with his injury, which he suffered working out on his own last month and aggravated on Friday. Rogers said he expects to practice today.


"He showed the vets a lot the last two days by practicing under physical duress," Williams said. "Today, we made him not practice. Now, I like the fact that I chose that he not practice. . . . Sometimes you've got guys that, 'Poor little old me, I have an owie today. I don't think I want to go.' It really doesn't go over very well with me and us in this profession."

Rogers said he continues to feel more comfortable in the defense and is eager to apprentice under Shawn Springs and Walt Harris, the projected starting corners. "I'm learning more every day," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061800926.html?nav%3Dhcmodule&sub=AR

[smoot]

Williams said. "Today, we made him not practice. Now, I like the fact that I chose that he not practice. . . . Sometimes you've got guys that, 'Poor little old me, I have an owie today. I don't think I want to go.' It really doesn't go over very well with me and us in this profession."
lol, thats one of the best quotes williams has had

[The Skinsinator]

lol, thats one of the best quotes williams has had

And he's already had alot of memorable ones in only coaching 1 full season. Imagine if he really does take over head coach for Gibbs in a few years. The media will love this guy. He doesn't leave much to the imagination.

[cmdlost29]

I'm the new Redskins cornerback.

And I have a lot to live up to.

Love that quote, humble and directed at himself. Go Rogers!!!!

About who starts first, sure hope it's not Campbell. That would mean the seasons a wash and were moving on into a different direction. I do however hope that Campbell plays in the first game of the year but thats only if were beating the life outta the Bears and he's in clean up detail.

[redwolf1218]

And he's already had alot of memorable ones in only coaching 1 full season. Imagine if he really does take over head coach for Gibbs in a few years. The media will love this guy. He doesn't leave much to the imagination.
between him and Bugel we're never at loss for classic one-liners.

[GMUskinsfan]

If rogers stays healthy i think he can displace harris at #2 corner in the first half of this season.