Best. Batman. Ever!!

[whitskins]

Saw Batman last night at midnight, I didn't end up in bed til 3:30 and now I'm here at work drained to the max, but I don't care, it was AWESOME!!!

If you love Batman this movie will energize you like crazy. Not only was the movie great but you can tell that the whole franchise is going to be something very, very special. It is dark, serious, intelligent, and generally just freaking great. The only qualms I had were really minor, all around I thought it was fantastic. The fans have finally been heard and gotten what they wanted.

Enjoy.

[redskin_rich]

Is it better than the original with Keaton and Nicholson?

[tbfoster1]

I can't wait to see it. How good was Chritian Bale as Batman? I'm betting he was good, he plays a bad arse in a few movies and is becoming one of my favorite actors.

[Spence]

I'm a huge fan of the Batman comics and loved the first two movies, directed by Tim Burton. I saw Salon gave "Batman Begins" an absolutely horrible review. Called it boring, stupid, oppressive -- you name it. I'll probably see the movie no matter what, but I'm keen to see more reviews. As great as Batman is, it CAN be screwed up. Just ask Joel Schumacher.

[bwparker]

I got tickets for tonight at 9:20...now I must leave for spoilers are the root of all evil

[fent]

it's definitely on the list of things to see. i want to see how bale stacks up too. i think keaton was the best all around for the job, but i think kilmer was a great "batman" and clooney was a great bruce wayne. hopefully bale will be able to combine the two like Keaton did and get the whole package.

[whitskins]

Is it better than the original with Keaton and Nicholson?

I believe it is, yes. Although that movie was excellent in its own right, this movie provides a much more expansive view of Gotham and is truer to the comic. Some things I preferred about the original Burton movie, the Batmobile being one of them, but this one was all around better in my opinion.

I can't wait to see it. How good was Chritian Bale as Batman? I'm betting he was good, he plays a bad arse in a few movies and is becoming one of my favorite actors.

Bale was awesome, I really can't see any other known actor playing the part at all except him. The fans on the internet called his name for years and he came through big time, he was hands down the perfect choice. I think he'll carry this franchise for a while.

[bfauble83]

I might go tonight if its not sold out...if it is I'll go this weekend. I haven't read any critics reviews, but it seems like its going to be awesome!

[SkinsKY]

Batman is easily my favorite crimefighter. Ra's Al Ghoul is probably my favorite villian too. I loved the animated series because it still contained a good amount of character depth and psychological elements to it. I liked the first and third movies the best. The second was okay, but I never really liked the Penguin, so it ruined a lot of it for me. I shouldn't even have to mention why I hated the fourth.

[whitskins]

Batman is easily my favorite crimefighter. Ra's Al Ghoul is probably my favorite villian too. I loved the animated series because it still contained a good amount of character depth and psychological elements to it. I liked the first and third movies the best. The second was okay, but I never really liked the Penguin, so it ruined a lot of it for me. I shouldn't even have to mention why I hated the fourth.

I don't know how they did Ra's in the comic but I'm interested to here a take on the villain in the movie from a fan of the villain in the comic. I thought the Scarecrow was absolutely awesome in his time in the movie though, wish there could have been more of him.

I liked Batman Returns but I think the ending was pretty horrible, with the penguins with rocket launchers on their backs (sounds like something out of Austin Powers). When Batman annihilated the pack of evil circus freaks in the beginning though... my favorite scene from a Batman movie ever.

[NCskinsfanatic]

I believe it is, yes. Although that movie was excellent in its own right, this movie provides a much more expansive view of Gotham and is truer to the comic. Some things I preferred about the original Burton movie, the Batmobile being one of them, but this one was all around better in my opinion.

Bale was awesome, I really can't see any other known actor playing the part at all except him. The fans on the internet called his name for years and he came through big time, he was hands down the perfect choice. I think he'll carry this franchise for a while.

IMO,It was better than the first, believe it or not. I just got back with my 8 year old and we loved it. He got the toys (batmobile, action figures , costume and gadgets) for his B-day in April and was pumped about seeing it today. That is the deepest anyone has ever devled into the Bruce Wayne character in a BatMan movie. The storyline and characters seemed to be so much deeper than any of the previous movies and I just found myself wrapoped up in it. Second best action/drama I've seen this year. Hey I love the Dark Knight but Star Wars will always be my first love.

Bale will be to the BatMan franchise what Reeves was to Superman in the 80's, or what Toby has become to the Spidey franchise, you get my point. Go see this movie!

[LATrueRedskin]

This movie was freaking awesome! Easily the best Batman ever on TV or cinema. Fight scenes were incredible, the cinematography is truely amazing, and Christian Bale is the Batman I've been waiting for. The story was very, very good and the casting seriously could not be better. Bale made the movie. Not only is he an awesome Batman, his Bruce Wayne depiction is what we all want to see. If you like the first two Batman movies by Burton, you'll freak out for this one. My favorite movie in a while (but I'm a Batman freak).

[PyroGenic]

The only qualms I had were really minor

was it the random appearance of bats?

[whitskins]

was it the random appearance of bats?

No I thought that part was pretty cool, it seemed like Batman had some kind of sensor that attracted the bats to swarm the building like that, I thought it was cool.

My minor gripes were mostly that I thought the hand to hand action scenes were poor. I have a real gripe with fight scenes that are all shaky and cut too fast so that I can't see what is actually happening. Luckily, there were not many of those such scenes. I also thought Katie Holmes was only ok but she didn't take away from anything. And I didn't like how Scarecrow left the movie. But that's it, THE REST IS AWESOME!!

Going again this weekend, this time on an IMAX screen.

[bwparker]

"I swear to God!"

"Swear to Me."

Bale had did a great rendition of Batman. I could watch him play the part for a long time to come. Its good to see human Batman. I loved the themes of fear. They didn't over CG it. Great Script. Action scenes were a little unfocused...but I didn't care. Movie was Awesome. Easy grade - A.

[RedskinRyan]

ahhhhh i shouldnt have quit so early, cause i really wanna see this

[LATrueRedskin]

ahhhhh i shouldnt have quit so early, cause i really wanna see this

Just hit up the matinee, bro. It's much cheaper, and there won't be that many people there. When I went at 8:00 pm last night it was packed solid.

[PyroGenic]

And I didn't like how Scarecrow left the movie. But that's it, THE REST IS AWESOME!!

that part was hilarious, "Aghhhh! My face!"

Also cool part was err.. hmm... how to make this vague. You know that one guy with the glasses got a whiff of that junx and then saw that guy dressed in black looking all creepy with that weird lip thing? yeah, that was awesome too... and when a certain somebody was caught on fire but the reason for me liking that should be self explanatory.

[bwparker]

that part was hilarious, "Aghhhh! My face!"

Also cool part was err.. hmm... how to make this vague. You know that one guy with the glasses got a whiff of that junx and then saw that guy dressed in black looking all creepy with that weird lip thing? yeah, that was awesome too... and when a certain somebody was caught on fire but the reason for me liking that should be self explanatory.
That was frickin cool RARRAGHG!!

[Dolla Bill]

Batman Begins is what all fans wanted to see. The casting was absolutely incredible, as was the Batmobile. I didn't know how to take it, but wow, i've gotta see how I can get one. Bale was an incredible Batman, not only in the costume, but he was a very very good Bruce Wayne. I love where this franchise is going, and can't wait to see the next one.

[tbfoster1]

I just got back from the movie...I thought it was great. Nothing gay about it, like some of the others. Hopefully Hollywood will stick with this formula and cast and not screw things up....

[bfauble83]

I saw it yesterday, and now I can't wait for the next one. This was the best Batman movie since the original (not that the others were too great). The dude that played batman was every bit as good as Michael Keaton was.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

This was easily the best Batman movie. It was the best superhero movie I've ever seen, in fact. Great job with the psychological aspect of the movie - and, more importantly to me, the realism of the movie. This was the first Batman movie that was really plausible. The Batmobile wasn't something that would be completely unmaneuverable, Batman's solution to everyone with a gun wasn't "dodge all the bullets with backflips," there weren't any penguins with rocket launchers. All in all, great flick. :awesomewo

[RedskinsVision]

just saw it today and it was a surprisingly great movie.. unlike the other comically produced Batmans. this is how the original should've kicked off. top notch cast and great story-line to who the real Bruce Wayne is. Hollywood is finally starting to learn how to make comic book movies with Spider Man 2 being one of the best ones made.. and now it topped that with this movie.

[smoot]

"I dont know nothing i swear to god!"
"Swear to me"

probably the best quote in the movie

[Axegrinder]

Great Movie!!!

[lakeskin]

Entertaining movie.

The action scenes minus the scene at the dock were not very good. Bale's Batman voice had me cringing at times. But other than these things and a few minor points, overall a solid summer flick.

[smoak]

It is killing me that I haven't seen this yet. Hopefully one night this week.

[chrisbcbu]

I heard that they are going to make another Batman movie and that they wont be retained Katie Holmes. They basically said that they felt that her bringing up her relationship hurt the movie.

[whitskins]

I heard that they are going to make another Batman movie and that they wont be retained Katie Holmes. They basically said that they felt that her bringing up her relationship hurt the movie.

I read the same news and the quotes attributed to Katie were harsh. I felt like she was the weak link but she wasn't horrible. I won't miss her in the second film though. Hopefully it's just more screen time for the Joker.

[Spence]

I don't know if this has been posted here yet, but from what I've been told, Katie Holmes will not be asked to return for the inevitable sequel. Fine with me. Anyone could have played her part. Apparently, the producers were not pleased that she spent more time promoting her new "romance" than promoting the movie. So she's gone -- at least as of now.

[CNYSkinFan]

I saw this movie last Friday and loved it. Batman was one of the only superheroes of DC I really likesd when I was a kid. Frank MIller's Dark Knight Returns was a staple of my comic book collection before a vengeful ex girlfriend sold them all .

I thought this was the best of all the Batman movies. Tim Burton's first two were pretty good but they focused more on the villains then the man in Black. Joel Schumacher took over the franchise and absolutely killed it by introducing Robin and (shudder) bat girl.

This movie brings back Batman the detective. He actually solved crime instead of just showing up by magic and kicking ****cesnored by spence****. and I absolutely LOVED the fact they brought up the escalation theory at the end of the movie. That has always been something I wondered about. Who came first the super villain or the super hero. Are they bound together? And alfred for the first time became a real character instead of an add on.

Ok the geek in me is showing too much. Some minor criticism, like what Whitskin said, I hate all action movies nowa days that shake the camera to make up for bad action choreography. I think it is even worse in this case because the choreography was pretty good and the camera shook too much to actually see it. The fact Katie Holmes knew who Batman was. The undefeatable ninjas being koed by Alfred. But I loved this movie and can't wait for the next installment, with or without Mrs. Tom Cruise.

[LATrueRedskin]

I don't know if this has been posted here yet, but from what I've been told, Katie Holmes will not be asked to return for the inevitable sequel. Fine with me. Anyone could have played her part. Apparently, the producers were not pleased that she spent more time promoting her new "romance" than promoting the movie. So she's gone -- at least as of now.

I'm not too sure how I feel about this yet. I had an idea it was going to happen when Bale was in an interview and praised all of the great actors in the movie with him, and he didn't mention Holmes. I'd like to keep the continuity and have Holmes in the movie, but I was really annoyed about her whole Tom Cruise thing during the promotion.

[chrisbcbu]

I don't know if this has been posted here yet, but from what I've been told, Katie Holmes will not be asked to return for the inevitable sequel. Fine with me. Anyone could have played her part. Apparently, the producers were not pleased that she spent more time promoting her new "romance" than promoting the movie. So she's gone -- at least as of now.

Ya i had already posted that. but still funny nontheless, because normally when they talk about a romance it brings ppl to see the movie. But it apparently had a different effect.

So everyone was talking about them and not the movie. So i can see where they are coming from.

[LATrueRedskin]

I'd also like to add that Christian Bale was the first to sign on for the sequel, and Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, and Gary Oldman have also signed on. I'm still hoping Christopher Nolan signs on to direct, which is probably what will happen.

[tbfoster1]

I'd also like to add that Christian Bale was the first to sign on for the sequel, and Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, and Gary Oldman have also signed on. I'm still hoping Christopher Nolan signs on to direct, which is probably what will happen.

its nice to know that most of the poeple are back in for the next installment of batman.....are they basically re doing the franchise?, I know the next one should have the Joker in it, but they already did a bad one with Jim Carrey. It would please me if they did re do the story so to speak with this cast and way this film was made.

[bfauble83]

its nice to know that most of the poeple are back in for the next installment of batman.....are they basically re doing the franchise?, I know the next one should have the Joker in it, but they already did a bad one with Jim Carrey. It would please me if they did re do the story so to speak with this cast and way this film was made.

Jim Carrey was the Riddler...Jack Nicholson was Joker in the original movie.

[CNYSkinFan]

From what I understand this is the start of a new franchise and will not build on the original. In the first film by Tim Burton they actually had the Joker kill Bruce Wayne's parents (horrible). Nicholson was a decent Joker but the whole movie series was a little campy for me (although I did like the first two).

I say scrap the other four and move on in a new direction. Without Robin please!!!!

[tbfoster1]

Jim Carrey was the Riddler...Jack Nicholson was Joker in the original movie.
oh yeah, I forgot about that...who was tommy lee jones? wasn't it two face or something like that

[chrisbcbu]

oh yeah, I forgot about that...who was tommy lee jones? wasn't it two face or something like that

ya he was two-face. And of course danny devito as the Penguin.

[CNYSkinFan]

ya he was two-face. And of course danny devito as the Penguin.

There was a rumour that Patrick Stewart could of been Mr. Freeze but the studio wanted Arnold and the script was rewritten because of his casting (the stupid one liners).

I am not saying Patrick Stewart could of saved the original Batman franchise but at least it could of been a little bit better.

[bwparker]

There was a rumour that Patrick Stewart could of been Mr. Freeze but the studio wanted Arnold and the script was rewritten because of his casting (the stupid one liners).

I am not saying Patrick Stewart could of saved the original Batman franchise but at least it could of been a little bit better.
No it would have just ruined Patrick Stewarts career and we wouldn't have the Silver Screen X-men that have served us so well for 2 straight movies.

[CNYSkinFan]

No it would have just ruined Patrick Stewarts career and we wouldn't have the Silver Screen X-men that have served us so well for 2 straight movies.

If this didn't kill Stewart's career nothing could.

Jeffrey (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113464/)

(actually a gooed movie and a fine acting performance by Stewart. Just trying to be funny)

[LATrueRedskin]

From what I understand this is the start of a new franchise and will not build on the original. In the first film by Tim Burton they actually had the Joker kill Bruce Wayne's parents (horrible). Nicholson was a decent Joker but the whole movie series was a little campy for me (although I did like the first two).

I say scrap the other four and move on in a new direction. Without Robin please!!!!

Yeah it's a complete restart of the franchise and they have nothing to do with the previous movies at all. In fact, the actors and Nolan go out of their way to say that the previous series is not related to what they're doing.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

i'm probably going to check this out this weekend and by the sounds of it, looks like i'll be getting my $9 worth.

[LATrueRedskin]

i'm probably going to check this out this weekend and by the sounds of it, looks like i'll be getting my $9 worth.

Yes! Go see it Lady! Support the cause!! :Partyred:

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

ok, i finally saw batman begins on friday night and i liked it. it is completely different than the first series of batman movies. i liked the plot and i thought it was good to see how batman came to be. the only thing i really hated when bruce wayne tried to go into barry white mode as batman though. it wasnt meant to be funny, but i chuckled every time batman spoke.

im not a huge batman fan, but i did like the first couple of movies and then the rest fell off IMO. i think i'll definintely check out the next one.

[IndianBaller27]

I saw it yesterday... It was pretty good, but not as great as some of you are saying. I dunno though. It's prolly cuz I know almost nothing about Batman.

[swheeler]

I saw it yesterday... It was pretty good, but not as great as some of you are saying. I dunno though. It's prolly cuz I know almost nothing about Batman.
I'm sure I know as litle as you (I'm not sure I've seen any of the old movies all the way through), but I really, really liked this one.

[smoak]

Batman is easily my favorite crimefighter. Ra's Al Ghoul is probably my favorite villian too. I loved the animated series because it still contained a good amount of character depth and psychological elements to it. I liked the first and third movies the best. The second was okay, but I never really liked the Penguin, so it ruined a lot of it for me. I shouldn't even have to mention why I hated the fourth.


I agree on the animated series. I love them so much, I bought them on DVD.

The movie (yeah, I finally saw three years later) was really good, but not great. They got away from some of the fundamental truths that make Batman so great. All that said, I really enjoyed having the Batman back and the movie definitely had its moments. I'm looking forwards to additional sequels moreso than any other comic movie.

[smoak]

I don't know how they did Ra's in the comic but I'm interested to here a take on the villain in the movie from a fan of the villain in the comic. I thought the Scarecrow was absolutely awesome in his time in the movie though, wish there could have been more of him.

I liked Batman Returns but I think the ending was pretty horrible, with the penguins with rocket launchers on their backs (sounds like something out of Austin Powers). When Batman annihilated the pack of evil circus freaks in the beginning though... my favorite scene from a Batman movie ever.

The ultimate scene is when Bruce Wayne sees the Bat signal in the beginning and stands up in his study... That gave me chills.

The original Tim Burton view of Batman/Gotham was still 100% better.

[smoak]

This movie was freaking awesome! Easily the best Batman ever on TV or cinema. Fight scenes were incredible, the cinematography is truely amazing, and Christian Bale is the Batman I've been waiting for. The story was very, very good and the casting seriously could not be better. Bale made the movie. Not only is he an awesome Batman, his Bruce Wayne depiction is what we all want to see. If you like the first two Batman movies by Burton, you'll freak out for this one. My favorite movie in a while (but I'm a Batman freak).

As am I.... so I must ask some follow up questions for all the die hard fans....

Where you at all disappointed that the beginning made young Bruce out to be more of a punk kid when he really had a plan all along to oppose crime. Bruce didn't run from crime... In the comics, he traveled the world to study under some of the greatest masters in the world. He studied toxicology, martial arts, detective work, explosives, etc, etc, etc. Plus, Bruce Wayne only feared one thing and it was never bats. He feared anything bad happening to those he cared about.... like what happened to his parents.

Did it bother you that the movie had Bruce willing to kill the guy who murdered his parents? He was driven and angered by the death of parents... But he NEVER would Bruce Wayne ever use a gun. Period. He hated guns. He also had such a high value for human life that he would have saved Rajs, but we all know Rajs isn't dead. Batman also wouldn't have been so reckless to endanger human life (chase scene and the train scene).

Did it bother you that he was so quick to reveal his identity to Rachel Dawes? Batman's identity is one of the most guarded secrets in the history of comic books. I understand that Lucius Fox had to know, but nobody else should have been involved (IMO).

Overall, I thought the movie was fantastic, and maybe I am being way too picky. Still, the animated series is still the best Batman depiction out there for me.

I

[smoak]

I heard that they are going to make another Batman movie and that they wont be retained Katie Holmes. They basically said that they felt that her bringing up her relationship hurt the movie.

I agree. It was the worst part of a great film.

[smoak]

There was a rumour that Patrick Stewart could of been Mr. Freeze but the studio wanted Arnold and the script was rewritten because of his casting (the stupid one liners).

I am not saying Patrick Stewart could of saved the original Batman franchise but at least it could of been a little bit better.

Sure, but cat crap is better than dog crap. That fil will live as one of the greatest crimes of humanity. Too much neon, ice skating villans, awful dialog, and they absolutely humiliated on of the best charaters of all time:

Bane.

I almost hope this franchise does the whole Knights End storyline where Bane beats the Batman... but they don't have enought time unless they just blitz through and do 3 films at once like LOTR.

[LATrueRedskin]

As am I.... so I must ask some follow up questions for all the die hard fans....

Where you at all disappointed that the beginning made young Bruce out to be more of a punk kid when he really had a plan all along to oppose crime. Bruce didn't run from crime... In the comics, he traveled the world to study under some of the greatest masters in the world. He studied toxicology, martial arts, detective work, explosives, etc, etc, etc. Plus, Bruce Wayne only feared one thing and it was never bats. He feared anything bad happening to those he cared about.... like what happened to his parents.

Did it bother you that the movie had Bruce willing to kill the guy who murdered his parents? He was driven and angered by the death of parents... But he NEVER would Bruce Wayne ever use a gun. Period. He hated guns. He also had such a high value for human life that he would have saved Rajs, but we all know Rajs isn't dead. Batman also wouldn't have been so reckless to endanger human life (chase scene and the train scene).

Did it bother you that he was so quick to reveal his identity to Rachel Dawes? Batman's identity is one of the most guarded secrets in the history of comic books. I understand that Lucius Fox had to know, but nobody else should have been involved (IMO).

Overall, I thought the movie was fantastic, and maybe I am being way too picky. Still, the animated series is still the best Batman depiction out there for me.

I

I love the animated series too. I didn't have a problem with young Bruce being a punk kid, I thought it was perfect. And I didn't have a problem with Bruce Wayne wanting to kill the man who killed his parents because he didn't actually do it and it fit in perfectly with the plot of the movie. And I also didn't have a problem with him being afraid of Bats; it also played to the plot perfectly.

It did bother me a bit that he revealed his identity to Rachael, though. I agree that it's the best kept secret in comic books who Batman really is. I definately could have done without that. But with Lucius Foxx they did it perfectly. It's always been a little joke that Foxx knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman, but he doesn't really KNOW. Bruce Wayne has never come out and told him, "I'm Batman" or never hinted that he was, but it's obvious that Foxx knows who he is.

[Skaggsrules]

I really liked the movie, my one thing is that they didn't use the scarecrow enough, nor was he the main villan. I really liked the scarecrow during the series, and I wanted him to be used more.

[C-7]

Saw this movie last night. I agree with most of you: it is the best batman ever, even better than the first (with Jack Nicholson, who IMO stole the show), which was favorite. I know almost nothing about Batman, and I'm not really big on super hero movies, but this movie was very good. I really liked the post ending (cop showing him the joker card).

[RedskinRyan]

i really cant wait to see this movie, hopefully next weekend then

[rskinsfan10]

No it would have just ruined Patrick Stewarts career and we wouldn't have the Silver Screen X-men that have served us so well for 2 straight movies.Speaking of which, I don't know if word has leaked, but I've been sitting on the news for months now that X-Men 3 is in the works, and a good portion of it will be shot in DC from what I was told.

[SkinsKY]

As am I.... so I must ask some follow up questions for all the die hard fans....

Where you at all disappointed that the beginning made young Bruce out to be more of a punk kid when he really had a plan all along to oppose crime. Bruce didn't run from crime... In the comics, he traveled the world to study under some of the greatest masters in the world. He studied toxicology, martial arts, detective work, explosives, etc, etc, etc. Plus, Bruce Wayne only feared one thing and it was never bats. He feared anything bad happening to those he cared about.... like what happened to his parents.

I'm okay with this part. I almost like a wayward Bruce trying to find himself and a purpose for his life. He's looking for something, but not sure what it is.

Did it bother you that the movie had Bruce willing to kill the guy who murdered his parents? He was driven and angered by the death of parents... But he NEVER would Bruce Wayne ever use a gun. Period. He hated guns. He also had such a high value for human life that he would have saved Rajs, but we all know Rajs isn't dead. Batman also wouldn't have been so reckless to endanger human life (chase scene and the train scene).

It's also worth noting that Bruce wouldn't kill the criminal in the league of shadows, but he killed many more people in blowing al Ghoul's place to pieces. It's true that Batman would avoid collateral damage whenever possible. I was disappointed with that.

Did it bother you that he was so quick to reveal his identity to Rachel Dawes? Batman's identity is one of the most guarded secrets in the history of comic books. I understand that Lucius Fox had to know, but nobody else should have been involved (IMO).

Overall, I thought the movie was fantastic, and maybe I am being way too picky. Still, the animated series is still the best Batman depiction out there for me.

Agreed again. Unnecessarily revealing your identity seems to be the first no-no of being a superhero. Bruce Wayne and Batman are such different personalities, that they should never cross over. I will say that I liked the part where Bruce learned to be the millionaire playboy. Again, I think this and the years in prison show early development of his character and is good. I doubt the next one will close some of these loopholes, but at least I can say that Batman is an enjoyable franchise once again.

[SkinsKY]

Speaking of which, I don't know if word has leaked, but I've been sitting on the news for months now that X-Men 3 is in the works, and a good portion of it will be shot in DC from what I was told.

We could try and set up a scene where they come to hRTGIII.

[smoak]

Agreed again. Unnecessarily revealing your identity seems to be the first no-no of being a superhero. Bruce Wayne and Batman are such different personalities, that they should never cross over. I will say that I liked the part where Bruce learned to be the millionaire playboy. Again, I think this and the years in prison show early development of his character and is good. I doubt the next one will close some of these loopholes, but at least I can say that Batman is an enjoyable franchise once again.

Yeah, Bale did a really great job portraying Bruce Wayne. I liked that he laid it on a little thick an ruffled the feathers of the affluent community. A lot of the complaints I have I realize are only b/c I love the Batman charaters so much. I never got into "superheroes" much as a kid, but Batman was an almost believeable character.... Someone who basically goes nuts after seeing his parents killed. No super strength. No X-ray vision. No experiment gone wrong. No gamma rays. Just a person who dedicated his life to stop criminals like the ones who stole his parents. Someone with a lot of anger and will to do something about it.

[smoak]

I really liked the movie, my one thing is that they didn't use the scarecrow enough, nor was he the main villan. I really liked the scarecrow during the series, and I wanted him to be used more.

I was hoping he'd be a little darker and more sinister... but I liked the way they did the fear gas. I'm really looking forward to the Joker and mor Rajs al gul.

[SkinsKY]

I really liked the movie, my one thing is that they didn't use the scarecrow enough, nor was he the main villan. I really liked the scarecrow during the series, and I wanted him to be used more.

I think the Scarecrow was implemented well. He's a hard character to translate from cartoons and comics to the big screen. I think seeing him riding around on a flaming horse would have been a bit awkward, and it was for the ten seconds that he did. I thought he was portrayed very well. He might have stood a tad more airtime, but I think they were right to keep al Ghoul as a the primary enemy. There is much more to be had in plot depth with him. Now if they have the Joker in the next one, it will be tough because Nicholson already played a damn fine Joker. I have no idea who I might even cast in that role. I think he'll be a primary villian, but I'd like to see some behind the scenes al Ghoul movement that could lead into a third movie.

[smoak]

I think the Scarecrow was implemented well. He's a hard character to translate from cartoons and comics to the big screen. I think seeing him riding around on a flaming horse would have been a bit awkward, and it was for the ten seconds that he did. I thought he was portrayed very well. He might have stood a tad more airtime, but I think they were right to keep al Ghoul as a the primary enemy. There is much more to be had in plot depth with him. Now if they have the Joker in the next one, it will be tough because Nicholson already played a damn fine Joker. I have no idea who I might even cast in that role. I think he'll be a primary villian, but I'd like to see some behind the scenes al Ghoul movement that could lead into a third movie.

I really hope the use Bane as well, but he might not translate well to the big screen.

[whitskins]

I think the Scarecrow was implemented well. He's a hard character to translate from cartoons and comics to the big screen. I think seeing him riding around on a flaming horse would have been a bit awkward, and it was for the ten seconds that he did. I thought he was portrayed very well. He might have stood a tad more airtime, but I think they were right to keep al Ghoul as a the primary enemy. There is much more to be had in plot depth with him. Now if they have the Joker in the next one, it will be tough because Nicholson already played a damn fine Joker. I have no idea who I might even cast in that role. I think he'll be a primary villian, but I'd like to see some behind the scenes al Ghoul movement that could lead into a third movie.

Apparently the director is trying to lure Sean Penn to play the Joker but it doesn't seem likely since Penn doesn't do many blockbusters. Interesting choice though...

[LATrueRedskin]

I think the Scarecrow was implemented well. He's a hard character to translate from cartoons and comics to the big screen. I think seeing him riding around on a flaming horse would have been a bit awkward, and it was for the ten seconds that he did. I thought he was portrayed very well. He might have stood a tad more airtime, but I think they were right to keep al Ghoul as a the primary enemy. There is much more to be had in plot depth with him. Now if they have the Joker in the next one, it will be tough because Nicholson already played a damn fine Joker. I have no idea who I might even cast in that role. I think he'll be a primary villian, but I'd like to see some behind the scenes al Ghoul movement that could lead into a third movie.

There's been some saying that the Joker will be a little different then what the main public is used to. He'll be more serious and scary then a complete jokester. In the next film, I think the Joker will be the main focus, but they will also introduce Harvey Dent (pre Two-Face). And in the third one, the main focus will be Two-Face. Their huge influence seems to be the Long Halloween graphic novel from now on.

[whitskins]

There's been some saying that the Joker will be a little different then what the main public is used to. He'll be more serious and scary then a complete jokester. In the next film, I think the Joker will be the main focus, but they will also introduce Harvey Dent (pre Two-Face). And in the third one, the main focus will be Two-Face. Their huge influence seems to be the Long Halloween graphic novel from now on.

The Joker will also be in part three, the writer has said that the biggest mistake the previous movies made was to kill off the Joker.

[whistleandthumb]

The Joker will also be in part three, the writer has said that the biggest mistake the previous movies made was to kill off the Joker.
I totally agree. Killing the Joker was a totally lame move, and left the franchise without a direction. The Joker is Batman's main nemesis, and his presence needs to be felt in every movie. I think other villains can be introduced, but have the Joker be the mastermind behind it all; the Joker should be just as strong and ellusive as ol' Batman.

Plus, keep it all as dark and scary as possible... in other words, the way Batman was supposed to be, ya know, sans "rubber nipples."

[SkinsKY]

There's been some saying that the Joker will be a little different then what the main public is used to. He'll be more serious and scary then a complete jokester. In the next film, I think the Joker will be the main focus, but they will also introduce Harvey Dent (pre Two-Face). And in the third one, the main focus will be Two-Face. Their huge influence seems to be the Long Halloween graphic novel from now on.

That makes sense to turn the Joker into a scarier guy, but I'd still like him to be funny. Not just funny as in he makes jokes and pulls stupid gags, but I want him to make me laugh. I think Two-Face is a great character as well, but I hated him in the movie. I think of him as still very reserved a la Harvey Dent but torn between feeling bad for his condition and taking it out on the public. I'm not too familiar with Bane, but at least the franchise is moving in the right direction.

[LATrueRedskin]

That makes sense to turn the Joker into a scarier guy, but I'd still like him to be funny. Not just funny as in he makes jokes and pulls stupid gags, but I want him to make me laugh. I think Two-Face is a great character as well, but I hated him in the movie. I think of him as still very reserved a la Harvey Dent but torn between feeling bad for his condition and taking it out on the public. I'm not too familiar with Bane, but at least the franchise is moving in the right direction.

I agree about both the Joker and Dent. The only reason I see them using the more scarier side of the Joker is because Jack Nicholson was so good that they have to try something new. And I do think that they will portray Two Face the way you described. He sucked in the first movie he was in, but they'll make him much more realistic this time around.

[whitskins]

I totally agree. Killing the Joker was a totally lame move, and left the franchise without a direction. The Joker is Batman's main nemesis, and his presence needs to be felt in every movie. I think other villains can be introduced, but have the Joker be the mastermind behind it all; the Joker should be just as strong and ellusive as ol' Batman.

Plus, keep it all as dark and scary as possible... in other words, the way Batman was supposed to be, ya know, sans "rubber nipples."

Dark and scary... I totally agree, here's a pic I found that's very cool, but it's fan art so nothing really to get excited about, but I hope they're going somewhat in this direction. This looks sweet.


Click this link to see the full image, I had to crop it, scroll down the see it:
LINK (http://www.bluetights.net/theplanet/showthread.php?t=3387)

[smoak]

Just wanted to remind everyone that it comes out on DVD tomorrow!!!

[redskin_rich]

I just finally watched Batman Begins....Awesome! I'll never be able to watch the others again, even the Tim Burton directed ones.
That was the best superhero movie yet, even better than Spiderman I and II. Can't wait for the next one!

[RedskinRyan]

oh man, i have the dvd up in my room, maybe i'll watch it tomorrow

[Fathead]

Great movie, and wonderful how you could have a good film w/o swearing/sex. I could watch that movie with my mom in the room and not feel weird.

[chrisbcbu]

I just watched this the other day. I was rather suprised on how much better it is compared to the other movies.

[IndianBaller27]

I just rented it and I'm probably gonna watch it tonight. I already saw it in theaters, but it was so good, I had to watch it again.

[VTBob]

definitely the best of the Batman films (I thought the original film with Keaton and Nicholson was overrated in any case) and I'm looking forward to seeing it on DVD soon

[IllinoiSkinFan]

They did a good job creating the scarecrow.
I have to agree, it is probably the best batman movie.

[HAWGZHEAD]

Well you guys convinced me to finally watch this movie and I have to say that I wasn't dissapointed by all the praise in the comments I read. This movie was fantastic. The story line, the action was all great. It lost the cartoony feel of the others and told a gritty story of the Batman. Thanks to all the posters in this thread that convinced me to watch I am in your debt lol.

[dallasadmin]

If you haven't seen this yet, the new face of the joker (http://www.ghostinthemachine.net/joker.jpg). The next Batman looks to be very dark.

[SpicyMcHaggis]

If you haven't seen this yet, the new face of the joker (http://www.ghostinthemachine.net/joker.jpg). The next Batman looks to be very dark.

If it's anywhere as good as the last one it's gonna be great.

[whitskins]

If you haven't seen this yet, the new face of the joker (http://www.ghostinthemachine.net/joker.jpg). The next Batman looks to be very dark.


That pic has been around for a long time and it is just fan art. The real Joker hasn't been revealed yet. But the pic below is an Easter egg hidden under some early websites that a marketing team hired by the film's studio has been starting up.

Not sure how closely this pic will wind up reflecting what ends up on the screen though. It is grizzly and intense, but not stylish at all. I would be surprised if this is the exact look that they are filming right now.

[BurgundyNGold]

That pic has been around for a long time and it is just fan art. The real Joker hasn't been revealed yet. But the pic below is an Easter egg hidden under some early websites that a marketing team hired by the film's studio has been starting up.

Not sure how closely this pic will wind up reflecting what ends up on the screen though. It is grizzly and intense, but not stylish at all. I would be surprised if this is the exact look that they are filming right now.
Is Batman being filmed over at Warner Bros?

[whitskins]

Is Batman being filmed over at Warner Bros?

Warner Bros is the studio but they are filming on location in Chicago, I believe.

[BurgundyNGold]

Warner Bros is the studio but they are filming on location in Chicago, I believe.
Cool, thanks. I might be out that way in July and I was hoping to maybe walk the lot with a buddy that works there. ;)

[Dolla Bill]

Cool, thanks. I might be out that way in July and I was hoping to maybe walk the lot with a buddy that works there. ;)



You suck then. :D

Edit: Btw, the joker pic from earlier is from Batman Dead End I believe. It was a small video that Stan Winston's protoge (sp?) put together that involved Batman, Joker, an alien, and a couple of Predators. Needless to say, it was badass.

[whitskins]

You suck then. :D

Edit: Btw, the joker pic from earlier is from Batman Dead End I believe. It was a small video that Stan Winston's protoge (sp?) put together that involved Batman, Joker, an alien, and a couple of Predators. Needless to say, it was badass.

I thought that short film was okay, but I was a little surprised by the amazing reaction it got. It was heralded by many as the best film representation of Batman ever (although that was before Batman Begins of course). I thought it was a pretty cool movie that was good fun, but I was underwhelmed considering the hype.

I've also read that the director of the movie, Sandy Collora, developed the most massive ego after the film hit the net, and he apparently embarrassed himself big time while meeting with several studio execs for potential directing gigs on other comic book films. Probably the reason why the guy hasn't really been heard from since.

Here is a link to the youtube of the short if anyone wants to take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEaHA-ZBSk

[whitskins]

Holy crap, I was just poking around IMDB looking at some of the Batman: Dead End credits, and the guy who played the Joker was BONER from Growing Pains! Hahahahaha, I loved that guy!!

[Dolla Bill]

Holy crap, I was just poking around IMDB looking at some of the Batman: Dead End credits, and the guy who played the Joker was BONER from Growing Pains! Hahahahaha, I loved that guy!!

He is also Chekov's (sp?) son from old school Star Trek.