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Axegrinder
07-14-2005, 10:31 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8567264/
WASHINGTON - In a rare personal attack on the Senate floor, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy accused Sen. Rick Santorum on Wednesday of being self-righteous and insensitive for a column he wrote three years ago linking Boston’s liberalism to the sex abuse scandal in its Catholic diocese.
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Ibleedburgundy
07-14-2005, 10:43 AM
Santorum is a genius! Liberalism is to blame for anything and everything.
RedskinsDave
07-14-2005, 10:51 AM
Three years later?
Three years later?
it took that long for the great drunk to sober up and remember what he was supposed to say
Axegrinder
07-14-2005, 10:57 AM
it took that long for the great drunk to sober up and remember what he was supposed to say
At least that's better than the comments from a narrowminded,clean living,conservative bigot who wants to run for president.
Minnesota Mike
07-14-2005, 11:03 AM
Three years later?
Wait til next week. I hear he has a scathing tirade directed at Lee Harvey Oswald for shooting his brother in the works. It's going to be awesome.
RedskinsDave
07-14-2005, 11:04 AM
Wait til next week. I hear he has a scathing tirade directed at Lee Harvey Oswald for shooting his brother in the works. It's going to be awesome.
:lol1:
Spence
07-14-2005, 11:35 AM
This is all coming back because Santorum's got a book coming out later this month in which he expands upon his view that a liberal elite controls all major institutions in the country [I guess he's not talking about the entire federal government] and that this liberal elite uses its control of all major institutions in the country to intentionally destroy America. Santorum cites a number of cultural innovations he ascribes to liberals -- especially divorce -- as the primary cause of all trouble in America. Interestingly, he does not mention the man who signed the nation's first no-fault divorce law, California Governor Ronald Reagan. Must have been an oversight.
Kennedy's attack on Santorum comes a day or two after most major political figures in Massachusetts had already taken a shot at Santorum, who believes that liberal faculty at Harvard and MIT forced Catholic priests in the Boston area to molest children.
Minnesota Mike
07-14-2005, 11:46 AM
This is all coming back because Santorum's got a book coming out later this month in which he expands upon his view that a liberal elite controls all major institutions in the country [I guess he's not talking about the entire federal government] and that this liberal elite uses its control of all major institutions in the country to intentionally destroy America. Santorum cites a number of cultural innovations he ascribes to liberals -- especially divorce -- as the primary cause of all trouble in America. Interestingly, he does not mention the man who signed the nation's first no-fault divorce law, California Governor Ronald Reagan. Must have been an oversight.
Kennedy's attack on Santorum comes a day or two after most major political figures in Massachusetts had already taken a shot at Santorum, who believes that liberal faculty at Harvard and MIT forced Catholic priests in the Boston area to molest children.
Let me guess, there is no mention of the possibility that the conservative Catholic requirement of celibacy could in anyway contribute to the abuse.
Spence
07-14-2005, 11:51 AM
Let me guess, there is no mention of the possibility that the conservative Catholic requirement of celibacy could in anyway contribute to the abuse.You guessed correctly.
RedskinsDave
07-14-2005, 11:55 AM
You guessed correctly.
Probably because both are equally stupid.
Axegrinder
07-14-2005, 11:56 AM
I wonder who he blames in the other places that this has occurred?
Ibleedburgundy
07-14-2005, 12:15 PM
This is all coming back because Santorum's got a book coming out later this month in which he expands upon his view that a liberal elite controls all major institutions in the country [I guess he's not talking about the entire federal government] and that this liberal elite uses its control of all major institutions in the country to intentionally destroy America. Santorum cites a number of cultural innovations he ascribes to liberals -- especially divorce -- as the primary cause of all trouble in America. Interestingly, he does not mention the man who signed the nation's first no-fault divorce law, California Governor Ronald Reagan. Must have been an oversight.
Kennedy's attack on Santorum comes a day or two after most major political figures in Massachusetts had already taken a shot at Santorum, who believes that liberal faculty at Harvard and MIT forced Catholic priests in the Boston area to molest children.
Where does a Senator find time to write a book?
SkinsKY
07-14-2005, 12:20 PM
Wait til next week. I hear he has a scathing tirade directed at Lee Harvey Oswald for shooting his brother in the works. It's going to be awesome.
Line of the week.
Spence
07-14-2005, 12:35 PM
Where does a Senator find time to write a book?He doesn't waste his time thinking.
RedskinsDave
07-14-2005, 12:35 PM
Where does a Senator find time to write a book?
Ask this guy:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0670032603.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Spence
07-14-2005, 12:35 PM
I wonder who he blames in the other places that this has occurred?Liberal elites who control all major institutions in this country. You know, like the White House, Congress, military, big business. All that stuff we control.
Spence
07-14-2005, 12:36 PM
Dave, you think John Kerry wrote that book? How cute.
SkinsKY
07-14-2005, 12:51 PM
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0670032603/qid=1121363355/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/002-6221306-7339229?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) says he wrote it. They also had this book as a two-fer deal:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743244974.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
I guess Senators do have time to write books.
Spence
07-14-2005, 01:03 PM
Aids write these books. Kerry's book is a compilation of speeche and position papers over the years, hastily updated to appear relevant to the 2004 election. Kerry would have had the last edit on all those speeches and position papers, but he would have written few of them. Edwards' book does contain a fair amount of original material only he could have written, but most of it was put together by the legal assistants who worked on those trials with him. It's extremely rare for any politician to sit down and write a book in the way that people think of books being written.
Ibleedburgundy
07-14-2005, 01:22 PM
Aids write these books. Kerry's book is a compilation of speeche and position papers over the years, hastily updated to appear relevant to the 2004 election. Kerry would have had the last edit on all those speeches and position papers, but he would have written few of them. Edwards' book does contain a fair amount of original material only he could have written, but most of it was put together by the legal assistants who worked on those trials with him. It's extremely rare for any politician to sit down and write a book in the way that people think of books being written.
I still think it looks bad for a high ranking official to do anything other than bust their butts for the constituency and if they don't want to work hard, let someone else have the job. Yes, I know our turn over rates in the Senate do not favor my stance. I like term limits under all circumstances.
JoeDaSchmoe
07-14-2005, 04:57 PM
I was listening to Bill O'Reilly talk about this today (yes, my socially liberal self will listen to O'Reilly to get through work, though most of the time it's to get a good laugh), and he actually did a pretty good job with it. Bashed Kennedy a bit for making a big deal aobut this in the Senate, but did the same to Santorum for making a fool of himself.
Dexter72
07-14-2005, 05:26 PM
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0670032603/qid=1121363355/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/002-6221306-7339229?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) says he wrote it. They also had this book as a two-fer deal:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743244974.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
I guess Senators do have time to write books.
What is up with Edwards' picture on the cover of that book? The background kind of looks like it is possibly a courtroom, but for some reason he is crouching, and his tie is loosened and his sleeves rolled up???
Agrawog
07-14-2005, 05:28 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8567264/
WASHINGTON - In a rare personal attack on the Senate floor, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy accused Sen. Rick Santorum on Wednesday of being self-righteous and insensitive for a column he wrote three years ago linking Boston’s liberalism to the sex abuse scandal in its Catholic diocese.
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Criticizing Santorum for something he said that was stupid?
As the great line from "White Men Can't Jump" intoned: This (*&^ is too easy!
Other great Santorum lines:
1/ I have no problems with homosexuals just the homosexual act. (Homesexual virgins and eunuchs are apparently honky dory for the flake from Pennsylvania).
2/ Santorum played a key role in shepherding the bill through the Senate to a vote on March 20, 2005. Santorum has frequently stated that he does not believe a "right to privacy" exists under the Constitution, even within marriage.
3/ Santorum has been particularly critical of the Supreme Court decision Griswold v. Connecticut (1965), which gave married couples the right to buy and use birth control.
and the piece de resistance (the french is just a last knock at the xenophobe):
Santorum described homosexual acts as part of a class of deviant sexual behavior, including incest, polygamy, and zoophilia, which threaten society and the family. Furthermore, Santorum stated that he believed consenting adults do not have a Constitutional right to privacy with respect to sexual acts.
Like the man said: This sh*t is too easy!
What a tool.
Hate d' cowboys
07-14-2005, 06:27 PM
Santorum is a genius! Liberalism is to blame for anything and everything.
Nice attempt there bud. Go purchase some intellect on the web...if you can figure out how!
Hate d' cowboys
07-14-2005, 06:39 PM
What is up with Edwards' picture on the cover of that book? The background kind of looks like it is possibly a courtroom, but for some reason he is crouching, and his tie is loosened and his sleeves rolled up???
True, it actually looks just like the moot courtroom where me and my fellow students argue mock cases.
Hate d' cowboys
07-14-2005, 06:40 PM
I was listening to Bill O'Reilly talk about this today (yes, my socially liberal self will listen to O'Reilly to get through work, though most of the time it's to get a good laugh), and he actually did a pretty good job with it. Bashed Kennedy a bit for making a big deal aobut this in the Senate, but did the same to Santorum for making a fool of himself.
Bro, if you think O'reilly is a conservative, you need to move to France.
Hate d' cowboys
07-14-2005, 06:41 PM
I still think it looks bad for a high ranking official to do anything other than bust their butts for the constituency and if they don't want to work hard, let someone else have the job. Yes, I know our turn over rates in the Senate do not favor my stance. I like term limits under all circumstances.
Including your bugar eatin judges?
Hate d' cowboys
07-14-2005, 06:51 PM
Ask this guy:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0670032603.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
John Kerry wrote a book? ;)
Hate d' cowboys
07-14-2005, 06:58 PM
John Kerry wrote a book? ;)
Anybody catch Limbaugh's commentary on Kerry lately (teehee I rhymed). He referred to the adage if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear, does it make a noise...and retorted if John Kerry speaks to thousands of people for an hour, has he said anything? I just wanted to gouge you liberals who still can't stand dealing with the fact that a Republican has kicked your @$$ two elections in a row. Ok then, bye bye now
Clinton days are gone…sucks doesn’t it
PennSkinsFan
07-14-2005, 07:10 PM
I am actually embarassed he represents Pennsylvania, but that willc hange next year.
akhhorus
07-14-2005, 07:33 PM
Anybody catch Limbaugh's commentary on Kerry lately (teehee I rhymed). He referred to the adage if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear, does it make a noise...and retorted if John Kerry speaks to thousands of people for an hour, has he said anything?
If any politician from either party blathers on about anything, do they say anything at all? Castigating Kerry for that is sort of like blaming a single hooker in a whorehouse for having pre-marital sex.
Clinton days are gone…sucks doesn’t it
Yeah, those were such terrible days. :rolleyes: Hows that invasion of Iraq, economy and domestic agenda going for Bush?
John Kerry wrote a book? ;)
Bush read one?
Bro, if you think O'reilly is a conservative, you need to move to France.
If you think O'Reilly is a liberal, you need to stop frequenting Free Republic and stop breathing exclusively with your mouth. O'Reilly is conservative.
Including your bugar eatin judges?
And you were telling someone to buy some intellect on the internet? I hate to break it to you, but those "activist" judges who allowed things like gay marriage and wouldn't comment on Schiavo were predominately appointed by or were republicans, not democrats.
Axegrinder
07-14-2005, 11:53 PM
Nice attempt there bud. Go purchase some intellect on the web...if you can figure out how!
That's not very nice.
JoeDaSchmoe
07-15-2005, 01:17 AM
Bro, if you think O'reilly is a conservative, you need to move to France.
Wow. Uh... wow.
Here are a few tidbits from Liberal Bill:
"I mean, he's a Far-Left bomb-thrower who actually runs a foundation that funds left-wing organizations."
"Finally, the ACLU - we talked about this yesterday and I - and, you know, I have to pick on the ACLU because they're the most dangerous organization in the United States of America right now. There's by far. There's nobody even close to that. They're, like, second next to Al Qaeda."
"How desperate some in the print media are to smear Fox News."
"This country is a better place because Fox News has succeeded."
"You want to have two guys making out in front of your 4-year-old? It's OK with them. A guy smoking a joint, blowing the smoke into your little kid's face? OK with them. And I'm not exaggerating here. This is exactly what the secular movement stands for."
Clearly, this man is no conservative.
NamVet4
07-15-2005, 07:08 AM
Wow. Uh... wow.
Clearly, this man is no conservative.
Clearly and in full suport of what Joe says: This man needs a check up from the neck up !
akhhorus
07-15-2005, 07:40 AM
Wow. Uh... wow.
Here are a few tidbits from Liberal Bill:
"I mean, he's a Far-Left bomb-thrower who actually runs a foundation that funds left-wing organizations."
"Finally, the ACLU - we talked about this yesterday and I - and, you know, I have to pick on the ACLU because they're the most dangerous organization in the United States of America right now. There's by far. There's nobody even close to that. They're, like, second next to Al Qaeda."
"How desperate some in the print media are to smear Fox News."
"This country is a better place because Fox News has succeeded."
"You want to have two guys making out in front of your 4-year-old? It's OK with them. A guy smoking a joint, blowing the smoke into your little kid's face? OK with them. And I'm not exaggerating here. This is exactly what the secular movement stands for."
Clearly, this man is no conservative.
Joe, don't you know that no matter who you are, as soon as you have a sex scandal, you're a liberal (http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=17574) !!!!
Ibleedburgundy
07-15-2005, 10:21 AM
Anybody catch Limbaugh's commentary on Kerry lately (teehee I rhymed). He referred to the adage if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear, does it make a noise...and retorted if John Kerry speaks to thousands of people for an hour, has he said anything? I just wanted to gouge you liberals who still can't stand dealing with the fact that a Republican has kicked your @$$ two elections in a row. Ok then, bye bye now
Clinton days are gone…sucks doesn’t it
Grow up.
CNYSkinFan
07-15-2005, 02:26 PM
Anybody catch Limbaugh's commentary on Kerry lately (teehee I rhymed). He referred to the adage if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear, does it make a noise...and retorted if John Kerry speaks to thousands of people for an hour, has he said anything? I just wanted to gouge you liberals who still can't stand dealing with the fact that a Republican has kicked your @$$ two elections in a row. Ok then, bye bye now
Clinton days are gone…sucks doesn’t it
The drugs must have been kicking in hard on this one.
JoeDaSchmoe
07-15-2005, 02:34 PM
Anybody catch Limbaugh's commentary on Kerry lately (teehee I rhymed). He referred to the adage if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear, does it make a noise...and retorted if John Kerry speaks to thousands of people for an hour, has he said anything? I just wanted to gouge you liberals who still can't stand dealing with the fact that a Republican has kicked your @$$ two elections in a row. Ok then, bye bye now
Clinton days are gone…sucks doesn’t it
I searched, and searched, and searched for a point in this post.... but, alas, all I found was a little Dr. Seuss jealousy.
sherry the moron
07-18-2005, 10:21 AM
Santorum is undermining his own cause
Monday, July 18, 2005
By Ruth Ann Dailey
Rick Santorum could say that the sky was blue, and some people would call him a liar and demand his ouster. That said, I think Pennsylvania's junior senator shouldn't talk about the sky for a while -- or much of anything else.
It's one thing for him to keep handing his opponents ammunition, even though they've so clearly declared "open season." It's a more serious thing when the fire he regularly draws hits his colleagues and his conservative supporters. If they get frustrated enough by the collateral damage, his re-election chances, even in an off-year, will continue to decline.
This week's brouhaha surrounds a column Santorum wrote three years ago for the Catholics Online Web site, in which he drew a connection between Boston's "academic, political and cultural liberalism" and its place in the Catholic Church's tragic pedophile scandal.In his column and elsewhere, Santorum has steadfastly maintained that a climate of sexual permissiveness draws more people into more self-destructive actions. He's right. Anybody who thinks American society hasn't been reaping the consequences of the sexual revolution for the past few decades simply isn't a serious person.But chances are that pedophilic priests were far less influenced by this lamentable condition than by the church's own standards. Sociologists (and non-Catholic theologians) have observed that the insistence on unmarried priests attracts young men who are emotionally and psychologically immature, along with those genuinely called to celibacy. (Maybe that's why St. Peter was married and St. Paul wrote that singlehood like his was a spiritual gift, not a vocational requirement.)
It was illogical, at best, for Santorum to introduce political terminology into this topic. The terms "liberal" and "conservative," for instance, cannot capture the theological dilemma the Catholic Church faces: Is it more conservative to uphold the old tradition of unmarried priesthood or to reform the church by conforming to even-older Holy Scriptures?
Sen. Ted Kennedy has demanded an apology to the people of Massachusetts for laying at their door even part of the blame that belongs only to corrupt priests and the higher-ups who facilitated their sin. As galling as it is to be rebuked by someone as morally dissolute and intellectually dishonest as Ted Kennedy, Santorum should admit his error. It may not help him politically -- those shouting loudest in this ruckus won't be appeased by anything less than his defeat -- but it's the right thing to do.
* * * http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05199/539472.stm
Hate d' cowboys
07-18-2005, 11:33 AM
Grow up.
That's a bit personal
Ibleedburgundy
07-18-2005, 11:34 AM
That's a bit personal
You earned it.
Hate d' cowboys
07-18-2005, 11:37 AM
I searched, and searched, and searched for a point in this post.... but, alas, all I found was a little Dr. Seuss jealousy.
Funny...you felt compelled to respond to the mindless drivel.
Hate d' cowboys
07-18-2005, 11:39 AM
You earned it.
Dude, it was a joke, if it truly offends you guys I will make due without it. Please feel free though to poke fun at conservatives...keeps us humble.
Spence
07-18-2005, 11:40 AM
Please feel free though to poke fun at conservatives...keeps us humble.Not bloody likely. :D
Hate d' cowboys
07-18-2005, 11:42 AM
Not bloody likely. :D
:lol1:
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