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GibbsRules!
07-26-2005, 01:55 PM
This is an old article. May 7, 2001 to be exact. I did a google search on the lives of NFL retirees and what their quality of life is like after spending their NFL careers beating the tar out of each other. I was inspired to do this search after reading CNYSkinFans latest thread on his Sean Taylor blog entry.

Some debate ensued about whether or not the NFL should lengthen the regular season schedule or eliminate some preseaon games. I wondered how the players of today would accept this. Joe Jacoby type players are a rarity these days. He wanted to be on the field for every down and sacrificed his body to do so. The condition he is in now (and that many from his era are in as well) IMO, will deter the players in todays game from agreeing to an extension of the regular season.

They mention many other players as well. I especially like the part about Harry Carson running in to the Diesel and blacking out in the huddle. Riggo was a beast!

I cut and pasted the parts about the Skins...if you want to see the whole article (talks about Earl Campbell, Bill Stanfill and Johnny U. among others)click on the link after the quote.

The Wrecking Yard

As they limp into the sunset, retired NFL players struggle with the game's grim legacy: a lifetime of disability and pain.

For most NFL players, especially linemen, weight training is as much a part of the daily regimen as stretching exercises--and the weight room works its own form of wickedness. Hoisting iron, players rupture the patella tendons in their knees, put enormous strain on their lower backs and cause ligament injuries to the lumbar spine. They even damage their shoulders by doing something the joint was not designed to do: bench-pressing huge weights.

Joe Jacoby, a former Washington Redskins offensive lineman, was a habitue of the Skins' weight room, squat lifting his afternoons away. He dare not lift weights anymore, for fear it will accelerate the deterioration of his ankles, knees, wrists, elbows and back. Jacoby still feels the echoes of years spent snatching iron and leaning his sequoia body into snot-blowing defensive linemen who drove shuddering forces down his spine and onto his lower joints.

At 6'7", 305 pounds, Jacoby was a giant among the Hogs, a 13-year veteran who retired in 1993, the year he collapsed in his bathroom at home and could not get up. "My lower back went out," he says. "I dropped to my knees on the floor. The pain was that sharp. I crawled out of the bathroom to the bed." Like Stanfill, imbued with the ethic to play in pain, Jacoby played again later that year. Then, against the Kansas City Chiefs, his back went out again. He ended up spending three days in a hospital.

"I never wanted to go out that way," says Jacoby, 41. "I wanted to keep playing, even though I was hurting. I felt like I was letting down the team. You've been brought up that way since high school. It's ingrained in you. I had a wife. I had a family. A business I was starting. But I kept hearing those little things in the back of my mind: You're letting your team down." He was in traction, shot up with cortisone, when the thought finally struck him: I can't keep doing this. I have a life to live after this.

Jacoby had blown out his left knee earlier in his career, when his leg got wrenched in a pileup during a field goal attempt. "The kneecap was way over on the side of the knee," he recalls. "I still hear the crunching and popping." Another old wound--vintage for linemen, who are forever getting their fingers caught and dislocated in face masks and shoulder pads--is the busted knuckle on Jacoby's wedding-band finger, as gnarled as a tree root. He has won many wagers in bars, claiming he can get the ring over that knuckle. His wife, Irene, had the band made with a clasp, so he can take it off like a bracelet.

Jacoby owns an auto dealership in Warrenton, Va. He and Irene had the sinks in the kitchen and master bathroom of their house installed higher than normal, "so he doesn't have to bend down," she says. He often walks about sockless in loafers. "It's too painful for him to bend over and put on socks or lace up shoes," Irene says.

Jacoby walks stiffly on his damaged ankles, but he endures the discomforts with stoic grace. He still remembers vividly the pounding he took year after year, through 170 games, including four Super Bowls--a career that left him unable to do any exercise other than walking. "Some days the back gets unbearable," he says. "It's really deep in the lower back and goes down to my left buttock and hamstring. Sometimes it gets so bad it hurts my nuts. There's pain down my left leg now. My left foot has been numb for two months. The bone's pressing on the nerve. Too many years of abuse, using the back to block."

Like so many other hobbled former players, Jacoby says he would do it all again if he had the chance. He knew what he was getting into. "Football players know the risk and the consequences," he says. "They know they will pay for it later in life. If they don't, they are misleading themselves."
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Former Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman and former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Steve Young, each of whom has suffered repeated bell-ringers on the field, are the players most closely associated with concussions. Carson, however, was one of the first former players to go public with the debilitating aftershocks of concussions, in an attempt to broaden understanding of the problem. Carson had his share of other injuries, but none quite as stunning as the concussion he suffered in 1985 when he crashed head-on into his favorite opponent, Redskins fullback John Riggins. "It was pretty much my power against his power," Carson says. "I remember hitting John and going back to the huddle ... everything faded to black. I was literally out on my feet."

Link (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_online/news/2002/09/11/wrecking_yard/)

bwparker
07-26-2005, 03:22 PM
They had an ESPN the magazine issue with an article about this a few months ago. Some lesser known cowboy type player. Most of his money went into surgery and pain killers and the therapy it took to recover mentally from going from physically superior to in constant pain.

Now he pretty much just lays around all day hopped up on pain killers and anti-depressants.
EDIT: When I get home I'll post his name.

redskin_rich
07-26-2005, 03:42 PM
Good find GR, I remember reading that article a few years ago.

Another problem suffered specifically by lineman is heart disease. A lot of these guys are carrying more weight than they were meant to, as much as 50 lbs in some cases. This leads to an enlarged heart and sometimes even more weight gain when they retire. Some of these guys die in their 40's and 50's.

IowaSkinsFan
07-26-2005, 04:08 PM
I have the exact same problems with my back. It hurts so bad I can't stand up straight, either way. I know what he is feeling.

LATrueRedskin
07-26-2005, 05:02 PM
Yeah my family has a history of crappy backs as well. I love Jacoby, he's a class act all the way.

I was actually thinking about starting a "where are they now?" thread about former Redskins, just to see what everybody is up to.

GibbsRules!
07-26-2005, 07:18 PM
I was actually thinking about starting a "where are they now?" thread about former Redskins, just to see what everybody is up to.

I often wonder that as well LATrue...It's hard to imagine Jacoby, who seemed larger than life, reduced to a mere shell of himself physically. I still wouldn't mess with him though unless I had a bullhorn taunting him from 500ft away. :rolleyes:

If he and the Earl Campbells are in the condition they are in it makes you wonder how the current players - who are bigger, faster, stronger and have collisions that have the same impact as auto accidents will be in the coming years.

Like Jacoby said though, these guys know what they are getting into when they put on the pads.

LATrueRedskin
07-26-2005, 08:00 PM
I often wonder that as well LATrue...It's hard to imagine Jacoby, who seemed larger than life, reduced to a mere shell of himself physically. I still wouldn't mess with him though unless I had a bullhorn taunting him from 500ft away. :rolleyes:

If he and the Earl Campbells are in the condition they are in it makes you wonder how the current players - who are bigger, faster, stronger and have collisions that have the same impact as auto accidents will be in the coming years.

Like Jacoby said though, these guys know what they are getting into when they put on the pads.

I think it'll end up being the same. The players have shifted to a new plateau. They can dish out harder hits, but they can also take them. I think the injuries will be as bad as they have been in previous years.

skinfan43
07-26-2005, 08:13 PM
There's the human element of the reality of post-NFL years. I always wanted to be in the NFL as a youngster; now a little older, I'm thrilled that I'm just another football, (er... make that REDSKINS;)) fanatic - I can still run, play recreational sports, deal with the occasional ache and pain just fine. But notice how almost all of the players say they'd do it again if they could. For those of us who HAVE played football at some point or another, that certainly is understood. The greatest game to play, PERIOD, IMO.

Ibleedburgundy
07-26-2005, 08:19 PM
I can't believe Joe Jacoby thought he was letting the team down. Not a single fan ever felt that way about him. I remember a diagram of him they had in the Washington Post. He may have had one good elbow but everything else was injured. Dozens of injuries.

The Iceman
07-26-2005, 09:21 PM
I can remember watching games as a child, and my dad would always tell me that whenever Joe Jacoby went down, everyone would cross thier fingers hoping he would get back up off of the turf. That is how bad Joe was banged up. Now whenever I hear Joe's name, I think about how it is consistent with toughness, heart, and dedication.

colkurtz
07-26-2005, 10:18 PM
This is a cautionary tale about a great Redskin, HOWEVER,

These young football players are being paid huge salaries that most of us can only dream about. A $500,000 salary is chump change in the NFL. That salary can then be doubled with endorsements. In a short 4-5 year career a player, with good financial management, can make enough money to live very, very well for the rest of his days.

Not bad for players, many of whom didn't even graduate from the colleges they attended.

In contrast, our young men and women soldiers over in Iraq and Afghanistan are being shot at and killed for salaries of $15,000. There is no roar of the crowd for them over there. There are no fast cars, beautiful women, tv interviews, crazy amounts of money, or a big crib to go home to.

So no, I'm not going to shed a tear for the football players when the pipper must be paid...................

JoeDaSchmoe
07-27-2005, 01:40 AM
The kickers have the best of both worlds.

Patrick
07-27-2005, 06:38 AM
This is a cautionary tale about a great Redskin, HOWEVER,

These young football players are being paid huge salaries that most of us can only dream about. A $500,000 salary is chump change in the NFL. That salary can then be doubled with endorsements. In a short 4-5 year career a player, with good financial management, can make enough money to live very, very well for the rest of his days.

Not bad for players, many of whom didn't even graduate from the colleges they attended.

In contrast, our young men and women soldiers over in Iraq and Afghanistan are being shot at and killed for salaries of $15,000. There is no roar of the crowd for them over there. There are no fast cars, beautiful women, tv interviews, crazy amounts of money, or a big crib to go home to.

So no, I'm not going to shed a tear for the football players when the pipper must be paid...................

Exactly - I’ve always felt the same way. AND let’s not forget – while these guys were in college, they could have been taking courses that would have help them better manage the large sums of money they would be making.

bgforever
07-27-2005, 08:01 AM
"Some days the back gets unbearable," he says. "It's really deep in the lower back and goes down to my left buttock and hamstring. Sometimes it gets so bad it hurts my nuts. There's pain down my left leg now.

From the Joe Jacoby article

I clearly relate to this part, since I had that L4-L5 lowe back surgery in '95. Before affordable lasers, etc. Sciatic nerve will get on your nerves. I ignore the DAILY pain I have and accept it as a part of my body's "nornal" function now. I have an adjustment to walking and the DR. still cautions me about long walks on pavement. It DOES affect all aspects of your physical life and yet the big guy keeps hangin' in there.
Hopefully the other Skins players now can see this article and realize just how much livin' in the moment means!

More power to you Joe!

GibbsRules!
07-27-2005, 08:27 AM
From the Joe Jacoby article

I clearly relate to this part, since I had that L4-L5 lowe back surgery in '95. Before affordable lasers, etc. Sciatic nerve will get on your nerves. I ignore the DAILY pain I have and accept it as a part of my body's "nornal" function now. I have an adjustment to walking and the DR. still cautions me about long walks on pavement. It DOES affect all aspects of your physical life and yet the big guy keeps hangin' in there.
Hopefully the other Skins players now can see this article and realize just how much livin' in the moment means!

More power to you Joe!

That's pretty intense bg...I remember lifting an 80lb bag of cement a few years ago while putting up a fence and throwing my back out. I was out of commission for 1 week and had time to reflect on how much it would suck to live like that all the time.

Something tells me if you met Jacoby he wouldn't give the issue any mention. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who is out looking for sympathy for his ails. He was and is a true warrior.

I'm just glad he was a Redskin!