Fastest Redskin

[Spearfeather]

With all the speed on this team, who is our fastest player? Coles, Canidate, P. Johnson, Russell, Jacobs, Bailey?:whoknows:

[truant]

THis topic comes up every once in a while, I'd say Russell, Bailey and Canidate are the fastest. It is fun to think about how fast our team is since Marty.

[Spearfeather]

The fastest time I've found for Jacobs is a high 4.3. I've heard Coles could match that or even better. However I seem to remember a 4.2 mentioned with Russell.

[PennSkinsFan]

I woudl tend to think at this poitn it woudl be Russell. From what I have heard, he is a small fraction faster than prior to his knee. If that is the case, man this guy is a burner.

[BigCountry]

I think it's Russell too but Coles, Johnson and Candidate were always one 3 of the fastes guys in the league, so I hope they're right when they say speed kills.

[Candiman]

The fastest Redskin is a member of the Eagles, can you spell, James Thrash?:banger:

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Candiman
The fastest Redskin is a member of the Eagles, can you spell, James Thrash?:banger:

Who?

[hail2skins]

Little did Candiman know that we had faster linemen than Thrash.
:mfast:

What's up with that pic Spear?

[Skins57]

I have to agree it is either Russell or Coles

[rskinsfan10]

Whomever it is that picks up the tee after kickoffs....

[Skins57]

Does anyone remember the story of the dog that retrieved the tee... or was that a movie.... heck what do I know :banghead: :banghead:

[hamptonskinsfan]

i would say from what i've read that Russell is the fastest but let us not forget that P. Johnson was a world class sprinter. plus you have the reports that coles was blowing away our secondary in the mini camps. i still think DG would give them all a run for their money though lol:honor:

[Emmanouel8]

Trung was clocked at 4.25 out of college.

Canidate wasn't widely projected as a first-rounder but offensive guru Martz was too taken with him to risk losing him before the Rams' second-round pick. Most attractive is Canidate's speed -- he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.25 seconds when Martz paid a visit to Arizona.

"Nobody runs a 4.25," Martz said Saturday. "He just kind of took my breath away to be honest with you.

"Canidate will be used primarily to give Faulk a breather in the first and second quarter for a play or two," Martz said. "To put Trung back in there and not skip a beat, especially with the speed that he has, is a big issue for us. It allows us to keep doing what we do on offense."

http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football/nfl/2000/draft/profiles/trungcanidate.htm

[hamptonskinsfan]

but what were the stats for Russell out of college? or johnson for that matter?

[Spearfeather]

What's up with that pic Spear?


Do you mean, who is it or why is it there?:confused:

[hamptonskinsfan]

Originally posted by Spearfeather
What's up with that pic Spear?


Do you mean, who is it or why is it there?:confused:

I think the answer for both is what is required spear. lol

[Spearfeather]

Its that QB for the Cowboys that we're supposed to fear so much. Chad Hutchinson.:doh:

[hail2skins]

Yeah I knew that. Just checking your loyalties. LOL

Actually that pic is a good candidate for the caption thread.

[TexSkin]

You all got it wrong...the fastest Redskin is Vinny Cerrato. Hey you got to be pretty fast to keep those lips planted on Snyders ass 24/7. :D

[Seebs]

Originally posted by TexSkin
You all got it wrong...the fastest Redskin is Vinny Cerrato. Hey you got to be pretty fast to keep those lips planted on Snyders ass 24/7. :D

:o I'm shocked

[NamVet4]

Originally posted by TexSkin
You all got it wrong...the fastest Redskin is Vinny Cerrato. Hey you got to be pretty fast to keep those lips planted on Snyders ass 24/7. :D :lol1: :lolbig: :lol3:

[Emmanouel8]

Coles:

He reportedly is fastest player in FSU history which would be an amazing feat considering that Deion Sanders attended FSU. He is not faster than the dancing Sanders, but he has blazing speed with the rare extra gear to separate or chase down players that few others possess. At his March workout, he ran a 4.37 time, which may move him into the top 100 selections. His development as a receiver has been hindered by multiple suspensions and lack of discipline in many aspects of play.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football/nfl/2000/draft/profiles/laveranuescoles.htm

Russell:

There were some very, very fast times, especially by the wide receivers: Utah's Cliff Russell ran a 4.3; Aaron Lockett of Kansas State, 4.37; Florida State's Javon Walker and Virginia Tech's Andre Davis, 4.37 each.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2002/brandt_3402.html

Pat Johnson, 5-10, 175, 4.44, Oregon

Although not very well known, Johnson, a former sprinter, is generally considered one of the better up-and coming receivers in the country and was a productive, big play maker for theDucks last season.

After grabbing just 14 passes for 218 yards and three scores in '96,Johnson cranked it up, catching 50 passes for 903 yards and six TDs this season, including a season-best performance against Stanford (8-179-2). Johnson also caught a game-winning pass to beatWashington and had an eye-popping performance vs.Air Force in the Las Vegas Bowl (5-169-2, with the TDs coming from 69amd 78 yards out).

Johnson is a tremendously quick receiver speed with the speed and acceleration to get separationon the deep pass. He is a good leaper and has the ability tomake the difficult catches in traffic and is a dangerous runnerwho can make something happen on his own after the catch.

He is also a dangerous return man with the ability to make defendersmiss. However, with only one productive collegeseason, he lacks playing experience, does not possess idealheight or size. Although showing the toughness to go overthe middle, is not very strong or physical and has somedifficulty getting off the line against press coverage.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football/nfl/draft/98/scoutreports/widereceivers.htm

[Spearfeather]

I don't know ....everytime I see this picture it makes me feel better about the Skins chances of sweeping the Cowboys.


Yeah I knew that. Just checking your loyalties. LOL

Actually that pic is a good candidate for the caption thread.

[Texas Skin]

I would love to see a 50 yard dash between all those guys........... how much do we have to pay to see that happen?

[Spearfeather]

Maybe they'll anoint a new Fastest Redskin at training camp, especially since Darrells gone. My guess is it would be between Coles, Russell, Canidate and P. Johnson

[Spence]

Champ runs somewhere around 4.3 in the 40. Of course those are all times run without pads. What a guy runs in pads isn't the same as what he runs in shorts. A lot of guys tend to slow up a bit if they think a free safety is headed their way. Some guys just stop running together. Hell, I don't think I ever saw Willie Gault run over the middle.

[jsarno]

my guess would be that Coles would win it. I would have said russell had it not been for his injury.
Johnson is fast, but I don't think he's as fast as coles.

PS- that picture of hutchinson is a freakin riot. I laughed my ass off!

[Brokenstriker]

Just tossing this in ...

Chad Morton ran a 10.6 100

:eek:

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Brokenstriker
Just tossing this in ...

Chad Morton ran a 10.6 100

:eek:


That's a good point...I forgot about him...does anyone know his 40 numbers??? (and not college numbers)

[Brokenstriker]

I couldn't find the time, but I did findout that in '98 Pat Johnson posted the fastest 40 yard dash time at the NFL Combine

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Brokenstriker
I couldn't find the time, but I did findout that in '98 Pat Johnson posted the fastest 40 yard dash time at the NFL Combine

I will still stick to my original guess of Coles...I remember watchinghis blazing speed.

But the best thing is, we have at least 5 guys that "could" win this...nothing wrong with having "too much speed.":Partyup:

[Brokenstriker]

Savannah NOW / Morris News Service March 18, 1999

Re: Champ Bailey

"He ran a time of 4.31 seconds, a mark he achieved running in tennis shoes on the Bulldogs' artificial turf field."

[Brokenstriker]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/garber_greg/1475866.html

Coles ....

"He had once been timed in a sick, sick 4.16 seconds in the 40-yard dash -- faster than anyone ever at Florida State, including Deion Sanders."

speed o'heat

(I think I can stop searching for 40 times now)

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Brokenstriker
Savannah NOW / Morris News Service March 18, 1999

Re: Champ Bailey

"He ran a time of 4.31 seconds, a mark he achieved running in tennis shoes on the Bulldogs' artificial turf field."


yeah...but that is misleading...of course he'll run faster on turf and with tennis shoes.

I would love to see Russell, Coles, Johnson, Trung, Bailey, and Morton have a race to decide this.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Brokenstriker
http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/garber_greg/1475866.html

Coles ....

"He had once been timed in a sick, sick 4.16 seconds in the 40-yard dash -- faster than anyone ever at Florida State, including Deion Sanders."

speed o'heat

(I think I can stop searching for 40 times now)


HOLY COW! I knew he was fast...but that is crazy! Thanks for the research!

[Skins57]

4.16 holy crap, well if this is true the discussion ends here

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Skins57
4.16 holy crap, well if this is true the discussion ends here


This is why I said Coles...but I still had no idea he posted a 4.16...that's freakish.

[TexSkin]

I could have sworn I saw a Chicken clock a 4.00 in the 40 yard dash at a tail gate party. :goofy:

[hail2skins]

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Funny Tex

[Hailyeah]

I just like the fact that we have so many possible choices for fastest Skin in this debate. I don't really care which one would win in a contest. Hopefully, Spurrier and Co can put these speed guys to good use on the damned field.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by TexSkin
I could have sworn I saw a Chicken clock a 4.00 in the 40 yard dash at a tail gate party. :goofy:

WHAT??? I heard it was the duck!

[LuvSkins17]

Didn't Trung post the fastest 40 time at the combine when he came out? I could have sworn that he did.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally posted by Hailyeah
I just like the fact that we have so many possible choices for fastest Skin in this debate. I don't really care which one would win in a contest. Hopefully, Spurrier and Co can put these speed guys to good use on the damned field.

This is a key point HY. Spurrier's offense dwells around speed, his whole off-season plan was focused around building speed, and here we are tryiong to determin, out of a group of abotu 5, who teh fastest Skin is. That points to two things...one being...the off-season plan was effective....adn two being...now we are truly seeing a different style Redskin team than we grew up with. We grew up with smash mouth, possestion typw offens,e and now we are moving tot he real fun-n-gun offense. It ought to be an interesting season!

[jsarno]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
now we are truly seeing a different style Redskin team than we grew up with. We grew up with smash mouth, possestion typw offens,e and now we are moving tot he real fun-n-gun offense. It ought to be an interesting season!

This is a good thing. Our old style no longer worked. I know i personally want Spurrier to do whatever he wants to get "HIS" team assembled. Hopefully he's almost there, or there!

[Emmanouel8]

Originally posted by LuvSkins17
Didn't Trung post the fastest 40 time at the combine when he came out? I could have sworn that he did.

Yes, one of my earlier posts in this thread clocks him AT THE COMBINE w/ a 4.25. The fastest 40 time I ever heard at a combine is Ahman Green's at 4.15. Coles 4.16 or anything below 4.4 is hard to swallow outside of a combine. He's definitely one fast MF'er though. We definitely upgraded speed on this team when a 4.4 sounds 'slow.'

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Emmanouel8
Yes, one of my earlier posts in this thread clocks him AT THE COMBINE w/ a 4.25. The fastest 40 time I ever heard at a combine is Ahman Green's at 4.15. Coles 4.16 or anything below 4.4 is hard to swallow outside of a combine. He's definitely one fast MF'er though. We definitely upgraded speed on this team when a 4.4 sounds 'slow.'

You have to take all those numbers with a grain of salt anyway.
1- none of them are rookies, and the combine numbers are a distant memory
2- a lot of the times a guy will perform above or below his potential at the combine given that it is speed without pads and on turf
3- crowd the field full of guys that want to kill you and 20lbs of pads, and it tends to slow you down.
Regardless we have lots of speed this year, and it shoudl be a lot of fun to watch for a change.

[WRSK1NS]

Originally posted by jsarno
You have to take all those numbers with a grain of salt anyway.
1- none of them are rookies, and the combine numbers are a distant memory
2- a lot of the times a guy will perform above or below his potential at the combine given that it is speed without pads and on turf
3- crowd the field full of guys that want to kill you and 20lbs of pads, and it tends to slow you down.
Regardless we have lots of speed this year, and it shoudl be a lot of fun to watch for a change.

I don't think so, if there were a field full of guys trying to catch and kill me, I am going to run faster, especially if I see the endzone!

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by WRSK1NS
I don't think so, if there were a field full of guys trying to catch and kill me, I am going to run faster, especially if I see the endzone!

:D :D :D I tend to agree with this.

[jsarno]

Originally posted by WRSK1NS
I don't think so, if there were a field full of guys trying to catch and kill me, I am going to run faster, especially if I see the endzone!

:lol1:

field full of guys slows you down because of the clutter...you have to dance around them.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

ya know what....i really dont care who is the fastest, i just know that they are ALL on my team!!

[eric]

Originally posted by LadyNRedskinsfan
ya know what....i really dont care who is the fastest, i just know that they are ALL on my team!!

Werd

[Emmanouel8]

Jsarno what am I going to do w/ you?! :smash:

You have to take all those numbers with a grain of salt anyway.

How did you infer otherwise? :smash:

crowd the field full of guys that want to kill you and 20lbs of pads, and it tends to slow you down

That's why they use the shuttlerun. Last I checked 'fastest' player wins the 40 yd dash in football. :smash:

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:D

[jsarno]

Originally posted by Emmanouel8
Jsarno what am I going to do w/ you?!

Love me cause I bring the SPICE! :lol1:


That's why they use the shuttlerun. Last I checked 'fastest' player wins the 40 yd dash in football.

Last I checked, no one runs a 40 yard dash in football. The goal is get in the endzone and not let the others tackle you. If you clutter it full of massive people, and slow people with fast one plugging the holes...you can't go very far without sidestepping. This is why Barry Sanders was thebest ever...yet not anywhere near the fastest ever.

E8 56
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:D

:lol1:

it's called self dillusion! hahaha
You are a worthy advesary...usually incorrect...but worthy none the less! :D