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RedskinsDave
08-18-2005, 09:58 AM
I will translate this so you don't have to read the drivel: Although there was prime time evidence to the contrary and Champ was burnt toast under the lights, he is still a shut down corner because people says so, including himself.

source (http://cbs.sportsline.com/other/partners/aol?http://cbs.sportsline.com/)
IowaSkinsFan
08-18-2005, 10:03 AM
"I get toasted, therefore I am!"
chrisbcbu
08-18-2005, 10:10 AM
Denver coach Mike Shanahan, who traded Clinton Portis last year to get Bailey from the Washington Redskins, defended Bailey earlier this year when he mentioned the pass rush. Shanahan said no corner could have success without a good pass rush, no matter how good they are.

Umm i guess he didnt watch the Skins play.
The Skinsinator
08-18-2005, 10:34 AM
What is everyone going to wake up and smell the coffee on this guy? I don't really care what the media thinks anymore. Point in case, Denver acquired him to boost their d. Did that happen when Peyton and the Colts lit a fire under Champ and the Broncos' *CENSORED*? He isn't the best and is easily the most overrated player in the NFL.
skins lady
08-18-2005, 10:39 AM
I want to see the look on his face when Moss beats him for a TD this year.
MoeRedskins
08-18-2005, 10:40 AM
His problems here are still his problems there. Sure, he'll shut down a guy for all but 2 plays, but those two plays usually end up being huge plays, mostly for TDs. I would rather have a CB give up 7 catches for 85 yards then 2 for 2 TDs, but that is just me.
Skinz4lyfe
08-18-2005, 10:43 AM
Roland must think pretty highly of himself:

"I talk to Deion all the time. I told him I'm about to pass him right now. Of course, he doesn't think so.

I hate Deion w/a passion but there is no way in the world that Champ is close to Deion status yet. He may be the best CB in the league right now but he doesn't shut down the field like Deion did. Wake up Roland and smell the coffee.
Santheb
08-18-2005, 10:57 AM
Pete Prisco is an idiot. Whats with all the crappy sentences in that article? The ones that are like four or five sentences long.
IowaSkinsFan
08-18-2005, 11:14 AM
Roland must think pretty highly of himself:



I hate Deion w/a passion but there is no way in the world that Champ is close to Deion status yet. He may be the best CB in the league right now but he doesn't shut down the field like Deion did. Wake up Roland and smell the coffee.

Deion was a devastating return man. Champ can't even field the ball cleanly...well, he couldn't in DC...don't know what he's doing in Denver and I don't care.
SkinsKY
08-18-2005, 11:51 AM
Who cares if you shut a man down 98% of the time if he takes the 2% for deep bombs. Sure he's good most of the time and excellent much of the time, but it's better to give up 7 ten yard passes than one 70 yarder. I'm not buying it Champ. I've been a big supporter since day one, but I just can't do it any longer.
nicefellow31
08-18-2005, 01:24 PM
His problems here are still his problems there. Sure, he'll shut down a guy for all but 2 plays, but those two plays usually end up being huge plays, mostly for TDs. I would rather have a CB give up 7 catches for 85 yards then 2 for 2 TDs, but that is just me.

Good points. I was thinking the same thing. Aside from the normal Champ bashing, I was never thought he lived up to all the hype. A good CB but not a great one.
whitskins
08-18-2005, 02:02 PM
Umm i guess he didnt watch the Skins play.

Haha, nice to know Shanahan has Roland's back by providing him with a killer pass rush in the form of the Cleveland Browns D-Line... hahahaha.
akhhorus
08-18-2005, 02:08 PM
Two stats are all you need to know about Champ:
1-25% of his career INTs were against Plummer before he joined Denver
2-Champ before 04 never had a pick against a team that made the playoffs that year
bwparker
08-18-2005, 02:13 PM
Umm i guess he didnt watch the Skins play.
We had a good pass rush...it just didn't come from our D-line...
CarMike
08-18-2005, 02:22 PM
Who cares if you shut a man down 98% of the time if he takes the 2% for deep bombs. Sure he's good most of the time and excellent much of the time, but it's better to give up 7 ten yard passes than one 70 yarder. I'm not buying it Champ. I've been a big supporter since day one, but I just can't do it any longer.

And folks, this is coming from a guy who used Champ Bailey as apart of his screen name for a long time.

Agreed SkinsKY...
IMALILTEAPOT
08-18-2005, 02:50 PM
no way is he better than deion. the thing about deion is, he got a lot of picks, and he could return it on u too. champ hardly gets a lot of picks, prolly like 3-4 a year tops. the only thing he does pretty well is get tackles.
BurgundyNGold
08-18-2005, 03:27 PM
I'm tired of Champ and his mouth. He just needs to get burned and burned often from here on out.
skins lady
08-18-2005, 03:29 PM
There's a poll on that site on who got the better of the deal, Washington or Denver. This is kind of hard to believe but last I checked Denver was up 60 to 40%. I said we got the better of the deal in a heartbeat.
BurgundyNGold
08-18-2005, 03:30 PM
There's a poll on that site on who got the better of the deal, Washington or Denver. This is kind of hard to believe but last I checked Denver was up 60 to 40%. I said we got the better of the deal in a heartbeat.
I'n sure that has something to do with the 2nd rounder we gave up too. We'll see how those numbers look after this season. ;)
redskin_rich
08-18-2005, 03:32 PM
I can't wait until we play Denver, hopefully either Moss or Patten scorches Chump and then half of our members here will have the pic on their sig.
The Skinsinator
08-18-2005, 03:35 PM
Who cares if you shut a man down 98% of the time if he takes the 2% for deep bombs. Sure he's good most of the time and excellent much of the time, but it's better to give up 7 ten yard passes than one 70 yarder. I'm not buying it Champ. I've been a big supporter since day one, but I just can't do it any longer.

Way to come around my friend. Despite Prisco's assinine assesment, most Bronco fans weren't overly pleased with him last year. They expected more from him. They need to understand 1 corner can't change the whole defense.
CNYSkinFan
08-18-2005, 03:47 PM
Two stats are all you need to know about Champ:
1-25% of his career INTs were against Plummer before he joined Denver
2-Champ before 04 never had a pick against a team that made the playoffs that year

Pretty devastating stats for Iago huh?
RedskinRyan
08-18-2005, 09:28 PM
Way to come around my friend. Despite Prisco's assinine assesment, most Bronco fans weren't overly pleased with him last year. They expected more from him. They need to understand 1 corner can't change the whole defense.

oh but wait, they added john lynch too.....

i dont want to bash champ, but why did he change so much when he went to denver? quiet here, mr. media over there. maybe that altitude is getting to him. maybe he's as good as deion NOW, cause i'd bet he'd get burned by eddie kennison too.
The Skinsinator
08-22-2005, 04:28 PM
oh but wait, they added john lynch too.....

i dont want to bash champ, but why did he change so much when he went to denver? quiet here, mr. media over there. maybe that altitude is getting to him. maybe he's as good as deion NOW, cause i'd bet he'd get burned by eddie kennison too.

I like John Lynch. Think he is an awesome safety. Nonetheless, he didn't help get the job done either.
Blind-sided
08-23-2005, 06:05 PM
What is everyone going to wake up and smell the coffee on this guy? I don't really care what the media thinks anymore. Point in case, Denver acquired him to boost their d.
Did that happen when Peyton and the Colts lit a fire under Champ and the Broncos' *CENSORED*?
He isn't the best and is easily the most overrated player in the NFL.


LOL true