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PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 01:48 PM
I have the first pick in an up coming FFL for big money ($100 a person). Should I get Peyton? I'm really feeling Peyton but I don't know if I'm thinking rationally. I know you're supposed to get RBs first usually but Peyton is a friggin TD throwing MACHINE!!! I should totally get Peyton right? aghhh! HELP!!!

redskin_rich
09-06-2005, 01:52 PM
Take Peyton, he is the surest bet there is.

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 01:58 PM
Take Peyton, he is the surest bet there is.

thanks, just found out that I dont get another pick until #19 x.X but whatever. Peyton is the man.

redskin_rich
09-06-2005, 02:07 PM
thanks, just found out that I dont get another pick until #19 x.X but whatever. Peyton is the man.
Yeah, you'll lose out on all the good RB's but Peyton alone should outperform the top 2 RB's put together.

BurgundyNGold
09-06-2005, 02:11 PM
Yeah, you'll lose out on all the good RB's but Peyton alone should outperform the top 2 RB's put together.
If his draft goes front-to-back, then back-to-front in draft order, he can still get 2 decent RBs at 19 & 20. I'd then get another RB (or stud WR) and a D/ST at 39 & 40 and then grab WRs (or 3rd RB) for the next 4 or 5 picks then fill out for depth. That's just my strategy though and every league is different.

redskin_rich
09-06-2005, 02:19 PM
If his draft goes front-to-back, then back-to-front in draft order, he can still get 2 decent RBs at 19 & 20. I'd then get another RB (or stud WR) and a D/ST at 39 & 40 and then grab WRs (or 3rd RB) for the next 4 or 5 picks then fill out for depth. That's just my strategy though and every league is different.
Decent being the operative word there. He will have missed on the upper tier backs but could still get a starter with potential, especially among the rookie class. There could also be a stud WR left at that point, it all depends how it shakes down but you can do some things with two back to back picks. I think its best to have a top 50 regardless of position to start and then take care of needs after that.

BurgundyNGold
09-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Decent being the operative word there. He will have missed on the upper tier backs but could still get a starter with potential, especially among the rookie class. There could also be a stud WR left at that point, it all depends how it shakes down but you can do some things with two back to back picks. I think its best to have a top 50 regardless of position to start and then take care of needs after that.
Personally, I put a premium on RBs and D/ST. I can (and have) won leagues with a 7th round QB and without WRs selected before round 4 or 5. However, each league is different. I've got a pretty good roadmap when I draft and it usually leaves me in a position to make the playoffs.

However, drafting is only about 20% of what it takes to be successful in FFL, IMO. Coaching, general management (FA and waiver wire), player injuries and good old fashioned luck each contribute about 20% of what happens in FFL.

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 03:01 PM
im trying to figure out when I should draft my starting defense. I guess it would kind of depend when the other people start taking the stud defenses but I'd still like my pick of the litter. I was thinking maybe pick #7(58) or #8(76) but now I'm thinking that it may be too late in the draft.

This is what I have so far, bear with me, I'm semi new at this and just got dragged into this at around 10am:
QB - 2(1)Peyton Manning (2)? (1 bench)
RB - 2 (1)? (2)? (1 bench*)
WR - 3 (1 bench*)
Flex - ( **SHARED WITH BENHCED WR/RB/TE**)
TE - 2 (1)? (2)? (1 bench*)
K - 2 (1)? (2)? (1 bench)
DEF - 2 (1)? (2)? (1 bench)






1st pick(1) - Peyton
2nd pick(19) - WR/RB
3rd pick(20) - Wr/RB (whichever best is available)
4th pick(38) - WR/TE/RB**if don't have a 2nd selected** (whichever best is available)
5th pick(39) - WR/TE/RB**if don't have 2nd selected** (whichever best is available)
6th pick(57) - QB/
7th pick(58) - ???
8th pick(76) - Starting Defense
9th pick(77) - ???
10th pick(95)- ???
11th pick(96)- ???
12th pick(114)-???
13th pick(115**LAST PICK**) - Backup kicker

I also have lists of the top20 players/teams at each position and then 10 sleeper picks.

Also, only have 13 players allowed on my roster at any given time.


The Draft is at 7:30 !

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 03:06 PM
If his draft goes front-to-back, then back-to-front in draft order, he can still get 2 decent RBs at 19 & 20. I'd then get another RB (or stud WR) and a D/ST at 39 & 40 and then grab WRs (or 3rd RB) for the next 4 or 5 picks then fill out for depth. That's just my strategy though and every league is different.


I'm kinda hoping people forget about Willis McGahee cause I think he'd be a nice pickup at #19/#20.

MoeRedskins
09-06-2005, 03:07 PM
I would go with Shaun Alexander with the number #1 pick, but that is just me. You get still get a ton of points out of the QB position, but weak RBs will kill a fantasy team, and with the 19th pick, you won't get a good RB with the 19th or 20th, but you'll still be able to get a solid QB. Trent Green picks up tons of yards and TDs and I guarnatee he will be available in the thrid round. Go with the Baltimore D in the 6/7 round, if not 8 is a good time to draft a D.

BurgundyNGold
09-06-2005, 03:08 PM
I'm kinda hoping people forget about Willis McGahee cause I think he'd be a nice pickup at #19/#20.
That'd be a nice pickup indeed. However, I think the way he closed out last season might make that kind of difficult. I think J.J. Arrington in Arizona might be a decent 3rd RB.

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 03:28 PM
That'd be a nice pickup indeed. However, I think the way he closed out last season might make that kind of difficult. I think J.J. Arrington in Arizona might be a decent 3rd RB.

is he ahead of that marcel guy on the cardinals depth chart? Didn't know that... gotta adjust some notes...

and I would draft alexander if I had like pick #5 or something but I need my stud if I'm choosing #1 (and ofcourse thats LT or Manning). To me, passing on both LT and Manning would mean losing too many points. I do like the fact that Alexander is in a contract year and almost had the rushing championship last year, but its Peyton friggin Manning.

Now I'm wondering when I should make a move for a TE. Should I choose Gonzalez/Gates/Johnson over a second or 3rd receiver? And should I go with back to back RBs with the 19th and 20th picks?

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 03:33 PM
Here are the league scoring rules:

Scoring

QBs/RBs/WRs/TEs

1 pt per 20 passing yards
1 pt per 10 rushing yards
1 pt per 10 receiving yards
-2 pts for fumble
-3 pts for int
-4 pts for int for td

TDs are a tiered bonus system based on yardage

0-19yd td = 7 pts
20-39yd td = 10 pts
40-59yd td = 12 pts
60-79yd td = 14 pts
80+yd td = 18 pts

Kickiers
extra point=1 pt
FG 0-30 yds = 3 pts
31-50 yds = 5 pts
>50= 7 pts

DEF/ST
Shutout = 10 pts
Sack= 2 pts
Ints = 3 pts
Forced Fumbles = 2 pts
give up <7 pts = 5 pts
give up more than 35 points = -5pts
Any special teams or defensive TD = 7pts


Now I'm wondering if I should draft LT lol

BurgundyNGold
09-06-2005, 03:37 PM
Now I'm wondering if I should draft LT lol
I imagine that the TD bonus points are for scoring, which adds values to receivers and pass catching RBs in your league. What are the passing points for a TD?

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 03:41 PM
I imagine that the TD bonus points are for scoring, which adds values to receivers and pass catching RBs in your league. What are the passing points for a TD?


I'm assuming that they are the same.

RedskinsDave
09-06-2005, 03:43 PM
I'd take LT. He is just that much better than any other RB. You will be shocked by the QB's you should be able to get lower. Go LT then RB/WR for the next two picks assuming there are still some good ones left. If you can get LT and then anyone from Harrison to Julius Jones late you will be okay. Of course I say this after I picked Peyton 2nd.

BurgundyNGold
09-06-2005, 03:45 PM
I'm assuming that they are the same.
Well, then QB and WR/TE are both of greater value in this league than a lot of leagues. Getting Peyton in this case makes good sense. It would also seem to a benefit for you to get a good receiving RB in addition to a pure runner. Maybe CP at #19/20?

Besides, if you get Peyton, you can go around singing a parody of "Golden Ticket" and blurt out "Peyton's mine, it!".

smoak
09-06-2005, 03:46 PM
In my "for fun" league, I took LT #1 overall and I am hoping Portis falls to my next pick.

GibbsRules!
09-06-2005, 03:49 PM
Here are the league scoring rules:

TDs are a tiered bonus system based on yardage

0-19yd td = 7 pts
20-39yd td = 10 pts
40-59yd td = 12 pts
60-79yd td = 14 pts
80+yd td = 18 pts



If this applies to QBs as well as WR/RBs you should definately get Peyton. He'll destroy the competition in the Regular Season...

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 03:52 PM
If this applies to QBs as well as WR/RBs you should definately get Peyton. He'll destroy the competition in the Regular Season...

yeah, im double checking with the league commish. I'll get back to you guys after i pick up my mom from work.

ShaggySkins
09-06-2005, 05:24 PM
Take LT

PyroGenic
09-06-2005, 07:29 PM
1st round just ended...

#1. Peyton - Taken by the Cunning ***spencored***
#2. LT - Taken by the Spearmint Rhinos
#3. Culpepper
#4. Shaun Alexander
#5. Edge
#6.R.Moss
#7. McNugget
#8. Priest Holmes
#9. McAllister
#10. Ahman Green

Round 2
#1. TO
#2. Marc Bulger
#3. Julius Jones
#4. McGahee
#5. Jamal Lewis
#6. Tom Brady

GibbsRules!
09-06-2005, 07:54 PM
1st round just ended...

#1. Peyton - Taken by the Cunning ***spencored***
#2. LT - Taken by the Spearmint Rhinos
#3. Culpepper
#4. Shaun Alexander
#5. Edge
#6.R.Moss
#7. McNugget
#8. Priest Holmes
#9. McAllister
#10. Ahman Green
Good Move!

redskin_rich
09-06-2005, 07:56 PM
1st round just ended...

#1. Peyton - Taken by the Cunning ***spencored***
#2. LT - Taken by the Spearmint Rhinos
#3. Culpepper
#4. Shaun Alexander
#5. Edge
#6.R.Moss
#7. McNugget
#8. Priest Holmes
#9. McAllister
#10. Ahman Green

Round 2
#1. TO
#2. Marc Bulger
#3. Julius Jones
#4. McGahee
#5. Jamal Lewis
#6. Tom Brady
They're really snatching up QB's early, you will get a good RB, maybe two.

GibbsRules!
09-06-2005, 08:06 PM
Stephen Jackson and Torry Holt are both still available? Both are decent picks IMO.

PyroGenic
09-07-2005, 12:22 AM
They're really snatching up QB's early, you will get a good RB, maybe two.

Here's my roster


QB: Manning
QB: Ramsey (either him or bledsoe were all that was left)
RB:Clinton Portis
RB: Lamont Jordon
RB: Travis Henry (he'll start by midseason I hope)
WR: Andre Johnson
WR: Jerry Porter
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: David Patten
TE: Alge Crumpler
TE: Eric Johnson
Defense: Tampa Bay
K: John Hall (everybody thought he was on IR for some reason)

PyroGenic
09-07-2005, 12:22 AM
Stephen Jackson and Torry Holt are both still available? Both are decent picks IMO.

both were gone by the time i had a chance to pick, although I think I made a mistake by not drafting Isaac Bruce instead or Porter... just have a weird feeling.

BurgundyNGold
09-07-2005, 09:00 AM
Here's my roster


QB: Manning
QB: Ramsey (either him or bledsoe were all that was left)
RB:Clinton Portis
RB: Lamont Jordon
RB: Travis Henry (he'll start by midseason I hope)
WR: Andre Johnson
WR: Jerry Porter
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: David Patten
TE: Alge Crumpler
TE: Eric Johnson
Defense: Tampa Bay
K: John Hall (everybody thought he was on IR for some reason)
That's a pretty good job!

BurgundyNGold
09-07-2005, 09:01 AM
1st round just ended...

#1. Peyton - Taken by the Cunning ***spencored***
#2. LT - Taken by the Spearmint Rhinos
#3. Culpepper
#4. Shaun Alexander
#5. Edge
#6.R.Moss
#7. McNugget
#8. Priest Holmes
#9. McAllister
#10. Ahman Green

Round 2
#1. TO
#2. Marc Bulger
#3. Julius Jones
#4. McGahee
#5. Jamal Lewis
#6. Tom Brady
WTF? Why are people taking Marc Bulger and Tom Bardy in round 2? I guess that QBs must have SUPER value in this league.

MoeRedskins
09-07-2005, 09:12 AM
After seeing the point system, the QB was definately the way to go. Nice Draft.

skins74
09-07-2005, 10:36 AM
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