Does Trung Canidate have a fumbling problem

[Shabba]

I saw this discussed on another board and thought it was interesting.

I realize that Trung has not been a starter but this is something worth noteing.

Since the 2000 season, Trung handled the football 120 times and had 7 fumbles out of those 120 carries. Now that averages out to 1 fumble every 17.1 touches. That is extremely high but then again, he did not have that many touches which could have been the reason. I believe that the more you carry the ball, the better you are likely to hold onto it when you get a big hit.

Stephen Davis on the other hand fumbled once every 80.5 touches...now you do the math in comparrison of the two.
Davis seemed to fumble at the most inopportune time (who can forget that Dallas game).

I'm just hopeing that Trung will not have a fumbling problem, thatz all and once again, yes I am bored.

[CarMike]

I've heard this before. But someone then said that those #s aren't correct. I've heard that he's actually fumbled 3 times in more carries. I'm sure someone here will take the time out to look up the exact #s. I'm too lazy.

I'm too worried about it though......at least not right now.

So, I'm not to sure if he fumbles a lot. I guess we'll soon find out.

[Green-Is-Good]

how could he only have 120 carries? i think he had over 700 yards rushing in the '01 season. i could be wrong

[hail2skins]

The 120 carries is actally 120 touches. 98 runs and 22 receptions according to ESPN. They also only have him credited with 3 fumbles. In the 01 season he had 441 rushing yards and 154 receiving yards. If he only has 3 fumbles according to ESPN, then he fumbles every 40 touches. Still pretty high in my opinion.

[CarMike]

I agree Mike. But, you have to look at it this way too. Thats average. Every 40 carries that is. It doesn't mean that every 40 carries that he fumbled. He could have had a bad day and fumbled 2 times say in 10 carries. Then he could have went 90+ rushes without another fumble. lol:D

I'm trying to find a way to look at the bright side. I know I'm reaching but........;)

[truant]

We'll see what the case really is. I don't remember, when he was coming out, hearing about his fumbling problem. I agree with the comment that backs need to get into a rhythm.

on a tangent, a friend of mine knows trung's little brother at ASU, he met trung earlier this summer and canidate was talking about how excited he is to get to play. He bought his mom and himself matching land rovers after the trade. I expect big things from him, he seems quite motivated.

[truant]

Trung coughed up the ball twice against the saints in his second career start. He had 12 carries for 19yards or something. Sounds like he was having a bad day. He did catch for over 100 that day though.

this is a link to his first career start, it's interesting cuz there is a vinny C comment... plus it was againt the jets...


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=211021020

[Shabba]

I guess we will soon find out. Didn't he also return punts and kicks at some point with the Rams?

[hail2skins]

Originally posted by CarMike
I agree Mike. But, you have to look at it this way too. Thats average. Every 40 carries that is. It doesn't mean that every 40 carries that he fumbled. He could have had a bad day and fumbled 2 times say in 10 carries. Then he could have went 90+ rushes without another fumble. lol:D

I'm trying to find a way to look at the bright side. I know I'm reaching but........;)

I'm with you Mike, I was only describing the stats that Shabba posted.

I guess we'll find out if he has a fumbling problem or not. That rumor started because of the one fumble that landed him in Martz's doghouse.

[Skinzaholic]

That rumor started because of the one fumble that landed him in Martz's doghouse. [/B]


That is what I have been thinking... Trung may not be this big fumble machine that others say he is... just that his fumbles have been a bit more noticable.

[PennSkinsFan]

No doubt Trung goes in starter, and there is no doubt that Spurrier is aware of past concerns, that is precisely why the job is Trung's to lOSE. He comes in bobble the football, fumbles, drops, adn we will see the best pure back on the team start, Ladell Betts.

[dj_stouty]

Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
No doubt Trung goes in starter, and there is no doubt that Spurrier is aware of past concerns, that is precisely why the job is Trung's to lOSE. He comes in bobble the football, fumbles, drops, adn we will see the best pure back on the team start, Ladell Betts.

I agree...but I'll take it another step further.

If Spurrier starts seeing Trung fumble the ball alot in training camp, there is NO question in my mind that he would promote Betts to be the starter...and use Trung sparingly in passing formations.

[TexSkin]

Watson got into Spurriers doghouse that way.

[LadyNRedskinsfan]

didnt we just get rid of a fumbler?? i think if us fans go into the season looking for trung to fumble all the time, its gonna be the only thing we notice about him, so i think im gonna stick to the positive things about him.....until he fumbles a game away and im calling for betts to come in. if i was him (in STL), i wouldve fumbled all the time too, just to piss that a__hole martz off.....

[Hailyeah]

How would anyone know if Trung has a fumbling problem? The guy's been a bench warmer his entire career with only 98 yds last year. I've stated before that I'm not sold on this guy as a feature back. No one should be based on his lack of production in the NFL. I like what I saw from our guy Betts at the end of last season more than anything Canidate has offered up. I'm really surprised I'm in the extreme minority with this opinion. :banghead:

[WRSK1NS]

I remember researching the whole Martz doghouse thing. What I came up with was that during a preseason game Martz was not happy with a fumble or two and he said Trung and Gordon were not running with any inspiration. You have to go way back into the archives on the ram's site to find it. Since it was preseason the fumbles do not count against his stats.