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Spence
09-18-2005, 11:49 PM
One billion dollars has been plundered from Iraq's defence ministry in one of the largest thefts in history, The Independent can reveal, leaving the country's army to fight a savage insurgency with museum-piece weapons.

The money, intended to train and equip an Iraqi army capable of bringing security to a country shattered by the US-led invasion and prolonged rebellion, was instead siphoned abroad in cash and has disappeared.

"It is possibly one of the largest thefts in history," Ali Allawi, Iraq's Finance Minister, told The Independent.

"Huge amounts of money have disappeared. In return we got nothing but scraps of metal."
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Most of the money was supposedly spent buying arms from Poland and Pakistan. The contracts were peculiar in four ways. According to Mr Allawi, they were awarded without bidding, and were signed with a Baghdad-based company, and not directly with the foreign supplier. The money was paid up front, and, surprisingly for Iraq, it was paid at great speed out of the ministry's account with the Central Bank. Military equipment purchased in Poland included 28-year-old Soviet-made helicopters. The manufacturers said they should have been scrapped after 25 years of service. Armoured cars purchased by Iraq turned out to be so poorly made that even a bullet from an elderly AK-47 machine-gun could penetrate their armour. A shipment of the latest MP5 American machine-guns, at a cost of $3,500 (£1,900) each, consisted in reality of Egyptian copies worth only $200 a gun. Other armoured cars leaked so much oil that they had to be abandoned. A deal was struck to buy 7.62mm machine-gun bullets for 16 cents each, although they should have cost between 4 and 6 cents.Source (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article313538.ece)

sherry the moron
09-19-2005, 07:05 AM
Source (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article313538.ece)

" . . . Most of the money was supposedly spent buying arms from Poland and Pakistan. . . "

let the buyer beware . . . :rolleyes:

p.s. buy AMERICAN . . . :rolleyes:

Spence
09-19-2005, 07:57 AM
p.s. buy AMERICAN . . . :rolleyes:Well, can you at least take comfort in the fact that it is probably $1 billion American dollars that are now in a numbered Swiss bank account belonging to a senior official in the Iraqi government?

sherry the moron
09-19-2005, 09:53 AM
Well, can you at least take comfort in the fact that it is probably $1 billion American dollars that are now in a numbered Swiss bank account belonging to a senior official in the Iraqi government?

ok . . . :rolleyes:

CNYSkinFan
09-19-2005, 10:14 AM
Well, can you at least take comfort in the fact that it is probably $1 billion American dollars that are now in a numbered Swiss bank account belonging to a senior official in the Iraqi government?

Why does it have to be an Iraq government official? It could be an American Govt official or a corporate executive of Haliburton for instance. Something this massive probably has =roots in all three.

RedskinsDave
09-19-2005, 10:29 AM
Is there another source for this?

Spence
09-19-2005, 11:12 AM
Is there another source for this?There are other news sources discussing the story, but they all cite the Independent piece because it appears to be their exclusive. The story does quote the Iraqi Finance Minister, Ali Allawi, calling it "possibly one of the largest thefts in history," so it does not appear anyone is questioning the story. At least, not yet.

Here is the BBC story. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4260892.stm)

BurgundyNGold
09-19-2005, 12:40 PM
Well, can you at least take comfort in the fact that it is probably $1 billion American dollars that are now in a numbered Swiss bank account belonging to a senior official in the Iraqi government?
You can only hope. I would hate for that $1B to be financing terrorism.

Spence
09-19-2005, 12:45 PM
You can only hope. I would hate for that $1B to be financing terrorism.Well, quite. It could be as bad as the money going to buy expensive luxury homes for Iraqi official[s] or it could be as disastrous as that money finding its way into the coffers of Al Qaeda.

I nominate BNG's one-line post above as the most gulp-inducing of the day.

CNYSkinFan
09-19-2005, 12:53 PM
Well, quite. It could be as bad as the money going to buy expensive luxury homes for Iraqi official[s] or it could be as disastrous as that money finding its way into the coffers of Al Qaeda.

I nominate BNG's one-line post above as the most gulp-inducing of the day.

Yeah I second that...That made me pause as well. The irony of us invading iraq to keep us safe from terrorists is already thick enough (with more jihadists signing up every day because of our actions) but to think we could indirectly be funnelling funds to those same jihadists when we are supposed to be arming others against them is scary indeed.

BurgundyNGold
09-19-2005, 02:31 PM
Yeah I second that...That made me pause as well. The irony of us invading iraq to keep us safe from terrorists is already thick enough (with more jihadists signing up every day because of our actions) but to think we could indirectly be funnelling funds to those same jihadists when we are supposed to be arming others against them is scary indeed.
That's part of what brought it to mind. This administration seems to have the reverse Midas touch, with manure the result.