Taylor Jacobs, David Patten, James Thrash [WR thread]

[skins74]

Is he still on the team, where is this guy. When he is healthy (not very often) he looks pretty good (like the 2nd best on the team) so why isn't he playing? Did he get hurt during the warmup session? I really hope he plays this week because we are going to need him against a tough Bronco D.

[Redskin-4-life]

I think I saw he in on a couple of plays, he just didn't get any passes thrown his way.

[EberKain]

Last week he had some deep routes, but was overthrown everytime. He will show up later in the year. Jacobs has the potential to be a great WR.

[Redskin4Life]

Better question is where's Patten??? Didn't Brunell and him have a better connection than Moss and Brunell in the preseason?!?!? Now Brunell is missing both Patten and Jacobs....

I think Mark needs to get some reps AFTER practice with those guys. Get timing down. Get their speeds down. Get use to catching balls from Brunell.

Maybe JG needs to try taking Moss out of practice for a day... let Moss get reps with the second team so Brunell gets used to the other two guys.

[Redskinfan28]

Last week he had some deep routes, but was overthrown everytime. He will show up later in the year. Jacobs has the potential to be a great WR.

I'm not really sure what you are basing that on. He has done nothing in 3 years except get injured.

[skins74]

Better question is where's Patten??? Didn't Brunell and him have a better connection than Moss and Brunell in the preseason?!?!? Now Brunell is missing both Patten and Jacobs....

I think Mark needs to get some reps AFTER practice with those guys. Get timing down. Get their speeds down. Get use to catching balls from Brunell.

Maybe JG needs to try taking Moss out of practice for a day... let Moss get reps with the second team so Brunell gets used to the other two guys.



Ramsey and Patten had a good feel for eachother in the preseason. Brunell and Antonio had a good thing going for one game.

[IowaSkinsFan]

James Thrash is very quietly having a very good start to the 2005 season as the #3 WR. He is undoubtedly getting the throws that would have went Jacobs way.

[ryflan47]

James Thrash is very quietly having a very good start to the 2005 season as the #3 WR. He is undoubtedly getting the throws that would have went Jacobs way.
I noticed this as well. He's going under the radar and Brunell loves throwing to him.

[Cruising270]

Yeah I love Thrash and he deserves to be in there when he is. He's a true Redskin, I love the guy.

He's always there on Special Teams, whenever the ball is thrown to him he's there to make the play, and to top it off he's just got a great attitude.

[BIGSEF3]

I don't think its so much a problem with patten and jacobs as it is Moss getting open. Moss is hardly ever covered! Its not due to lack of trying, the little dude is just fast as crap and gets open. as our #1 WR, he's usually going to be the go-to guy on passing plays. Typically Brunell isnt going to look for Patten or Jacobs is Moss is open, so until defenses start covering Moss like a rug, they wont get too many catches. I think with Champ covering Moss this Sunday, it increases the chance of Moss being covered, so that could open things up for Patten and/or Jacobs.

[redskin_rich]

James Thrash is very quietly having a very good start to the 2005 season as the #3 WR. He is undoubtedly getting the throws that would have went Jacobs way.
I think some people aren't realizing that Thrash is getting open because Patten is taking the coverage with him. There was one play last Sunday that Thrash went completely uncovered on the outside because Patten ran a crossing pattern and the safety went with him. By the time Brunell went through his progression and found Thrash, Seattle had almost recovered. I say almost because the completion was made for a 1st down but Thrash was tackled soon after.
As far as Jacobs goes, he'll have work his tail off on special teams for now, unless there is an injury, other than to him of course.

[Redskin-4-life]

I don't think its so much a problem with patten and jacobs as it is Moss getting open. Moss is hardly ever covered! Its not due to lack of trying, the little dude is just fast as crap and gets open. as our #1 WR, he's usually going to be the go-to guy on passing plays. Typically Brunell isnt going to look for Patten or Jacobs is Moss is open, so until defenses start covering Moss like a rug, they wont get too many catches. I think with Champ covering Moss this Sunday, it increases the chance of Moss being covered, so that could open things up for Patten and/or Jacobs.

I agree, not to mention that Moss has displayed he has great hands. He has made some difficult catches. Champ has a hamstring injury, and I doubt if they want to match him up against a speedster like Moss.

[openallnight]

I'm not really sure what you are basing that on. He has done nothing in 3 years except get injured.
You're forgetting the 3rd year break out rule for WRs ;)

[smoak]

James Thrash is very quietly having a very good start to the 2005 season as the #3 WR. He is undoubtedly getting the throws that would have went Jacobs way.

Agreed. As I expected, Thrash is getting the catches in big spots (ie third down).

[tomlcollins]

This thread should be nonexistent, just like Jacobs' role in the offense.

Never will be a fan of a Florida draft pick by Spurrier.

[BurgundyNGold]

OK, I was going to wait until after his void of a performance next week, but it seems I might get beat to the punch. I've been a supporter of his since we drafted him, but here is the hard, cold truth:

It's official: Taylor Jacobs is a BUST.

This is his 3rd season and he can't even crack the top 3 WRs. Considering he was a 2nd round pick who was supposed to go in the 1st round, that, ladies and gentleman, is a bust. The 3rd season is supposed to be the benchmark "breakout" season for a WR. It they don't do it by now, then the odds are stacked against them that they'll ever do it at all. Blame injuries all you want, but as far as I'm concerned it's all part of the equation that has led to a rather undistinguished career to this point.

Might he contribute and even turn out to be a great Redskin? Absolutely. But those of you out here who keep expecting him to turn into a solid #2 or [chuckle] even a #1, get over it. It's not gonna happen. Ever. IMO, the best we can hope to see out of TJ is that he eventually become the lunch pail Redskin WR that James Thrash is. That is to say, good at everything, great at nothing.

How do I know this? Because there is exactly ZERO game footage to contradict what I just put out there. Not even in preseason. All we've had to this point has been hope and TC coach's rhetoric. Sorry, but I ain't buying that particular brand of snake oil about TJ anymore.

So, there it is. I'll cheer for him and I'll pray that he proves me wrong. I don't think he will though.

[redskin_rich]

OK, I was going to wait until after his void of a performance next week, but it seems I might get beat to the punch. I've been a supporter of his since we drafted him, but here is the hard, cold truth:

It's official: Taylor Jacobs is a BUST.

This is his 3rd season and he can't even crack the top 3 WRs. Considering he was a 2nd round pick who was supposed to go in the 1st round, that, ladies and gentleman, is a bust. The 3rd season is supposed to be the benchmark "breakout" season for a WR. It they don't do it by now, then the odds are stacked against them that they'll ever do it at all. Blame injuries all you want, but as far as I'm concerned it's all part of the equation that has led to a rather undistinguished career to this point.

Might he contribute and even turn out to be a great Redskin? Absolutely. But those of you out here who keep expecting him to turn into a solid #2 or [chuckle] even a #1, get over it. It's not gonna happen. Ever. IMO, the best we can hope to see out of TJ is that he eventually become the lunch pail Redskin WR that James Thrash is. That is to say, good at everything, great at nothing.

How do I know this? Because there is exactly ZERO game footage to contradict what I just put out there. Not even in preseason. All we've had to this point has been hope and TC coach's rhetoric. Sorry, but I ain't buying that particular brand of snake oil about TJ anymore.

So, there it is. I'll cheer for him and I'll pray that he proves me wrong. I don't think he will though.

3 schools that always seem to bust at WR's are Michigan, Florida and Colorado and wouldn't you know we have drafted a WR highly from each over the last 13 years.

[openallnight]

OK, I was going to wait until after his void of a performance next week, but it seems I might get beat to the punch. I've been a supporter of his since we drafted him, but here is the hard, cold truth:

It's official: Taylor Jacobs is a BUST.

This is his 3rd season and he can't even crack the top 3 WRs. Considering he was a 2nd round pick who was supposed to go in the 1st round, that, ladies and gentleman, is a bust. The 3rd season is supposed to be the benchmark "breakout" season for a WR. It they don't do it by now, then the odds are stacked against them that they'll ever do it at all. Blame injuries all you want, but as far as I'm concerned it's all part of the equation that has led to a rather undistinguished career to this point.

Might he contribute and even turn out to be a great Redskin? Absolutely. But those of you out here who keep expecting him to turn into a solid #2 or [chuckle] even a #1, get over it. It's not gonna happen. Ever. IMO, the best we can hope to see out of TJ is that he eventually become the lunch pail Redskin WR that James Thrash is. That is to say, good at everything, great at nothing.

How do I know this? Because there is exactly ZERO game footage to contradict what I just put out there. Not even in preseason. All we've had to this point has been hope and TC coach's rhetoric. Sorry, but I ain't buying that particular brand of snake oil about TJ anymore.

So, there it is. I'll cheer for him and I'll pray that he proves me wrong. I don't think he will though.
BNG, while you may be right I think you need to reserve the "bust" title 'til AFTER the 3rd season, not 3 games into it.

[S.Taylor36]

Bust!!!!!!

[The Skinsinator]

I think some people aren't realizing that Thrash is getting open because Patten is taking the coverage with him. There was one play last Sunday that Thrash went completely uncovered on the outside because Patten ran a crossing pattern and the safety went with him. By the time Brunell went through his progression and found Thrash, Seattle had almost recovered. I say almost because the completion was made for a 1st down but Thrash was tackled soon after.
As far as Jacobs goes, he'll have work his tail off on special teams for now, unless there is an injury, other than to him of course.
This series of events is exactly what the speed factor of receivers do. They are always making something happen. Do you think Patten cares how many catches he gets? Heck no. All he cares about is wins, something he knows more about than any other Skin. It's all the little things about this 2005 Redskin team I'm liking so much.

[The Skinsinator]

BNG, while you may be right I think you need to reserve the "bust" title 'til AFTER the 3rd season, not 3 games into it.
I would have to agree. Give him at least this year. I'm confident he is really injured and Thrash is doing more than we could have asked for. I agree with you though BNG if he can't crack the top 3 after this year, then yes the kid is a bust but let's wait it out. I'm still very confident in his ability, potential, and talent.

[rocky12]

Unless he gets physically tough i don't see TJ getting onto the field much w/ the way Thrash is playing. Thrash does all the lil things. I think he'd have to take over Pattens position if hes gonna get much field time.

[skins74]

I agree, not to mention that Moss has displayed he has great hands. He has made some difficult catches. Champ has a hamstring injury, and I doubt if they want to match him up against a speedster like Moss.


Unless they want him to have (2) bad hamstrings.:)

[GWBlitzST]

I don't see him as a "bust" simply because I immediately wrote him off when we drafted him, as I did with every other Florida guy Spurrier brought in, Trung Candidate, and, sadly, the young Conference USA gunslinger Patrick Ramsey. TJ was supposed to be in high favor of the coaches with all the work he put in this offseason, only to prove once again he is made of glass and will never break the starting lineup, especially with Thrash's performance and my newly acquired hope that we can pick up Javon Walker this offseason. I saw Jacobs in as a decoy on a running play, and that was it. His time here is close to an end, and I won't be sad to see another Spurrier byproduct out the door in favor of a new improved Joe Gibbs guy.

[Sweepea436]

I'm not really sure what you are basing that on. He has done nothing in 3 years except get injured.

Not only that, but I personally, have had enough of guy with "alot of potential". I want to see something. Guys with alot of potential that can't seem to break out are called something else - busts.....

[CowboyKilla]

We need to get him more involved. He catches everything thrown to him.

[CowboyKilla]

He can't really be a bust until you throw him the ball often.
If he doesn't perform(after he's a big part of the offense) then fine he's a bust.

[CowboyKilla]

Desmond Howard. That's a bust.

[redwolf1218]

i dont think he's a bust yet, i think he's got a lot of talent, just bit by the injury bug. actually i think he'll take Patten's starting spot if Patten doesnt start making some catches and if Jacobs can get healthy. he's younger, faster, taller, supposedly runs great routes, and Patten only seems to catch the ball if everything is perfect and in stride. i know he's a great leader and i know some balls have been off the mark, or behind him, or he was interfered with, but for all the hype, i'd like to see him make a play on the ball and make a tough catch once in a while like Moss seems to be able to do.

[Biggie]

i dont think he's a bust yet, i think he's got a lot of talent, just bit by the injury bug. actually i think he'll take Patten's starting spot if Patten doesnt start making some catches and if Jacobs can get healthy. he's younger, faster, taller, supposedly runs great routes, and Patten only seems to catch the ball if everything is perfect and in stride. i know he's a great leader and i know some balls have been off the mark, or behind him, or he was interfered with, but for all the hype, i'd like to see him make a play on the ball and make a tough catch once in a while like Moss seems to be able to do.

Thrash's catches have come from Patten drawing away coverage.

[BurgundyNGold]

He can't really be a bust until you throw him the ball often.
If he doesn't perform(after he's a big part of the offense) then fine he's a bust.
I disagree. I'll use your example below.

Desmond Howard. That's a bust.
We threw to Desmond Howard, but sparingly. Gibbs tried desperately to get DH into games. He just couldn't get off the line and didn't have the speed in and out of his breaks to get open. As a result, he was rarely open and we didn't throw to him much. Later on, he didn't play as much.

I suspect that if Jacobs got open more often, he'd get more passes thrown his way.

[redwolf1218]

Thrash's catches have come from Patten drawing away coverage.
maybe so, but Thrash should beat most teams 3rd DB, and Jacobs should also, and Jacobs would probably have the same effect as Patten, as far as drawing coverage away. anyone who runs deep with speed should draw a look from a safety while the underneath guy like Thrash gets single coverage. also, Patten wont draw coverage away from Thrash for long if Thrash keeps burning everyone on 3rd downs while Patten is not doing anything.

[PennSkinsFan]

Chalk me up. I have pretty much lost confidence in Jacobs. Always hurt, but when he is on the field, he is barely noticable.

[BurgundyNGold]

i dont think he's a bust yet, i think he's got a lot of talent, just bit by the injury bug. actually i think he'll take Patten's starting spot if Patten doesnt start making some catches and if Jacobs can get healthy. he's younger, faster, taller, supposedly runs great routes, and Patten only seems to catch the ball if everything is perfect and in stride. i know he's a great leader and i know some balls have been off the mark, or behind him, or he was interfered with, but for all the hype, i'd like to see him make a play on the ball and make a tough catch once in a while like Moss seems to be able to do.
I used to think that, but the more I think about it and the less he does, I become more convinced that he'll never be more than an injury-prone #3 WR -- if he's lucky.

He was healthy for the second half of last year and was used sparingly. He's been healthy since the Dallass game, yet I don't know that he has more than a reception or two at best. He's not getting open, as far as I can tell. And this is against 3rd and 4th corners.

Nah, I think I'm just gonna call it now. I hope he proves me wrong, but all the signs are there for TJ being a bust.

[redskin_rich]

Jacobs has done less in his first 2 years and 3 games than, Desmond Howard, Michael Westbrook and Rod Gardner, who are all considered busts. At least Westbrook would catch 34 balls before his annual injury. Gardner had dropped more balls than Jacobs has caught in the same amount of time.
Say it with me....Bust.

[silverspring]

Jacobs fraility has been disappointing. But I don't think we can call him bust until the end of the season, he will continue to get opportunities because of his good ST play.

[skins74]

It sounds like alot of you don't think too much of our WR core besides Santana and Thrash. I would have to agree at this point but hopefully Patten will come on strong and the same for TJ.

[skins74]

Jacobs has done less in his first 2 years and 3 games than, Desmond Howard, Michael Westbrook and Rod Gardner, who are all considered busts. At least Westbrook would catch 34 balls before his annual injury. Gardner had dropped more balls than Jacobs has caught in the same amount of time.
Say it with me....Bust.



hmmm..........that is...really bad...............:cry:

[BurgundyNGold]

It sounds like alot of you don't think too much of our WR core besides Santana and Thrash. I would have to agree at this point but hopefully Patten will come on strong and the same for TJ.
We all feel the same way, only some of us aren't counting on it for TJ.

[redwolf1218]

Jacobs fraility has been disappointing. But I don't think we can call him bust until the end of the season, he will continue to get opportunities because of his good ST play.
i think that's a good point about his fraility. i've been his advocate for a long time but it's wearing thin. these guys around here are wearing me down. also his special teams play is a good point. he and Thrash are both good on special teams. Vinny Cerrato spoke highly of him in a radio interview i heard and he specifically mentioned his special teams play. if he can stay healthy, he might be one of those guys who hangs around based on special teams until he gets his shot. if someone got hurt and he had to start, i'd still have confidence in him. he's just buried on the depth chart behind better and more experienced guys right now.

[BurgundyNGold]

i think that's a good point about his fraility. i've been his advocate for a long time but it's wearing thin. these guys around here are wearing me down. also his special teams play is a good point. he and Thrash are both good on special teams. Vinny Cerrato spoke highly of him in a radio interview i heard and he specifically mentioned his special teams play. if he can stay healthy, he might be one of those guys who hangs around based on special teams until he gets his shot. if someone got hurt and he had to start, i'd still have confidence in him. he's just buried on the depth chart behind better and more experienced guys right now.
That's just it, Red. He's getting his shot right now. He needs to do more with it or he'll be looking for a shot somewhere else in a couple of years.

[redwolf1218]

That's just it, Red. He's getting his shot right now. He needs to do more with it or he'll be looking for a shot somewhere else in a couple of years.
i didnt mean like that, not as the 4th guy, i meant it more like, say we have a guy who excells on special teams like Jimoh who is buried on the depth chart, but we would not want him starting at corner due to injury. Jacobs excells at special teams like that, but i'd have more confidence in him starting. based on i dont know what, instinct maybe, gut feeling that he can produce.

[BurgundyNGold]

i didnt mean like that, not as the 4th guy, i meant it more like, say we have a guy who excells on special teams like Jimoh who is buried on the depth chart, but we would not want him starting at corner due to injury. Jacobs excells at special teams like that, but i'd have more confidence in him starting. based on i dont know what, instinct maybe, gut feeling that he can produce.
I see where you're coming from. The only real difference is that we know quite well what Jimoh can do. He's not waiting for his chance anymore. I break out in hives whenever Omar Stoutmire comes into the game because he now wears #23 and I haven't gotten over the conditioned response to seeing Jimoh in the defensive backfield yet, lol.

Anyway, I really hope TJ can get in the game more often. He's got all the tools and by all accounts should be starting. Yet, he is not. That in and of itself does not bode well for him.

[redwolf1218]

I see where you're coming from. The only real difference is that we know quite well what Jimoh can do. He's not waiting for his chance anymore. I break out in hives whenever Omar Stoutmire comes into the game because he now wears #23 and I haven't gotten over the conditioned response to seeing Jimoh in the defensive backfield yet, lol.

Anyway, I really hope TJ can get in the game more often. He's got all the tools and by all accounts should be starting. Yet, he is not. That in and of itself does not bode well for him.
i dont think he would have started since we got Moss and Patten, but i would have thought he could beat out Thrash. i will say this, a thread devoted to a debate on Jacobs, Patten and Thrash is a nice problem to have.

[skinfan43]

[QUOTE]I break out in hives whenever Omar Stoutmire comes into the game because he now wears #23 and I haven't gotten over the conditioned response to seeing Jimoh in the defensive backfield yet, lol.
LMAO!! That just happened to me in the Seattle game, I saw #23 and I was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" I will admit he plays very good ST, but can't we find SOME other corner who can play good ST's and ACTUALLY COVER A WR?????
Jacobs will get his chances in the next few games, as will Patten. This is STILL an offense that's getting its footing, a couple more games will help the running and passing games to really start to produce. (eg.- more 20+ point games)

[silverspring]

i think that's a good point about his fraility. i've been his advocate for a long time but it's wearing thin. these guys around here are wearing me down. also his special teams play is a good point. he and Thrash are both good on special teams. Vinny Cerrato spoke highly of him in a radio interview i heard and he specifically mentioned his special teams play. if he can stay healthy, he might be one of those guys who hangs around based on special teams until he gets his shot. if someone got hurt and he had to start, i'd still have confidence in him. he's just buried on the depth chart behind better and more experienced guys right now.

Last year I was starting to think that jacobs would become our "future thrash" who i define as a dependable player and ST superstar. But he keeps getting hurt so easily and hasn't been able to prove his WR skills on gameday.

[redwolf1218]

[QUOTE=BurgundyNGold]
LMAO!! That just happened to me in the Seattle game, I saw #23 and I was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" I will admit he plays very good ST, but can't we find SOME other corner who can play good ST's and ACTUALLY COVER A WR?????
Jacobs will get his chances in the next few games, as will Patten. This is STILL an offense that's getting its footing, a couple more games will help the running and passing games to really start to produce. (eg.- more 20+ point games)
we are starting to put them together. Portis went off in game 1 and Moss in game 2, then in game 3, Moss and Thrash were solid while Portis and Betts were solid. throw in Cooley, Royal and Sellers, and improvement on both fronts will result in a formidable offense. it's coming, i cant feel it.

we scored 9 in game 1, then 14 in game 2, then 20 in game 3. the increase of 6 points per game should result in scoring 26 in game 4.

[Ibleedburgundy]

I have never been a big Taylor Jacobs fan because we passed up Anquan Boldin to get him and I saw Boldin play at FSU a bunch of times. He is a beast-incredibly hard to bring down. During the draft that year I was screaming at the television cause I thought Anquan would be a late first rounder and he was still on the board for the Redskins at about 42-46 overall. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Every year we hear how good Taylor Jacobs is going to be and then nothing. I'll believe it when I see it.

[JoeDaSchmoe]

I have never been a big Taylor Jacobs fan because we passed up Anquan Boldin to get him and I saw Boldin play at FSU a bunch of times. He is a beast-incredibly hard to bring down. During the draft that year I was screaming at the television cause I thought Anquan would be a late first rounder and he was still on the board for the Redskins at about 42-46 overall. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Ugh, I didn't know that and now I do. That's upsetting.

[Brokenstriker]

we should have problems like this all the time ... 4 gamers at WR ...

excellent

[dabro]

I saw Jacobs in as a decoy on a running play, and that was it.

He caught one pass for 9 yards and a first down.

[redwolf1218]

Last year I was starting to think that jacobs would become our "future thrash" who i define as a dependable player and ST superstar. But he keeps getting hurt so easily and hasn't been able to prove his WR skills on gameday.
the problem there is, Thrash was an undrafted walk-on who is our 3rd receiver and Jacobs is a 2nd round pick. he should be better than that.

[BigPlayJay]

I disagree. I'll use your example below.


We threw to Desmond Howard, but sparingly. Gibbs tried desperately to get DH into games. He just couldn't get off the line and didn't have the speed in and out of his breaks to get open. As a result, he was rarely open and we didn't throw to him much. Later on, he didn't play as much.

I suspect that if Jacobs got open more often, he'd get more passes thrown his way.

I read in Joe Gibb's book "Racing To Win" that they knew Desmond howard was a bust (as a WR) within two weeks so they emphasized him being a kick returner.

[Stinkfist0]

You can't force passes to Patten and Jacobs just for the heck of it. Moss and Cooley have been getting open so they get the balls.

Against Denver this week, their incredibly fast LB's will likely contain Cooley, but their secondary outside of Champ is rather suspect, so it's possible that the other guys will see some balls thrown their way.

However, Moss will smoke Champ at least once in this game, guaranteed! Will Brunell see it and get him the ball? I don't know. But he will be able to get open for a potential big play at least once.

[skins74]

[QUOTE=BurgundyNGold]
LMAO!! That just happened to me in the Seattle game, I saw #23 and I was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" I will admit he plays very good ST, but can't we find SOME other corner who can play good ST's and ACTUALLY COVER A WR?????
Jacobs will get his chances in the next few games, as will Patten. This is STILL an offense that's getting its footing, a couple more games will help the running and passing games to really start to produce. (eg.- more 20+ point games)

He seems to fly under the radar for a while until he gets burned real bad. Fortunately he has some good coaches trying to teach him the right way so maybe he will one day become a decent player.

[PennSkinsFan]

I really want to see David Patten arrive this offense. I don't know if it is the play calling that has not relied on us to call on him or if it is just an issue of chemsitry between brunell and Patten that is still under development, but he has to get going. Moss will be even better, just imagine, even better, when and if Patten steps up to be a formidble number two receiver. Thrash is Thrash. Very good receiver, consistent, and dependable. Thrash is the type of WR that EVERY team needs. Jacobs, well, quite frankly, Ive given up hope on him.

[CowboyKilla]

Ok Cut him Right Now. Ridiculous.....
Most recievers don't make an impact till at least their third year.
But ok just cut him, the guy is pathetic.
I'm not saying he's Jerry Rice reincarnated but to throw him out like a dirty diaper??
Personally I think he will contribute THis YEar. Bust or Not.

[BurgundyNGold]

Ok Cut him Right Now. Ridiculous.....
Most recievers don't make an impact till at least their third year.
But ok just cut him, the guy is pathetic.
I'm not saying he's Jerry Rice reincarnated but to throw him out like a dirty diaper??
Personally I think he will contribute THis YEar. Bust or Not.
Who said to cut him?

[redskin_rich]

Ok Cut him Right Now. Ridiculous.....
Most recievers don't make an impact till at least their third year.
But ok just cut him, the guy is pathetic.
I'm not saying he's Jerry Rice reincarnated but to throw him out like a dirty diaper??
Personally I think he will contribute THis YEar. Bust or Not.
I don't think anybody said cut him, we are just calling him what he is, a bust. Let him prove me wrong, I will gladly feast on crow.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

I have never been a big Taylor Jacobs fan because we passed up Anquan Boldin to get him and I saw Boldin play at FSU a bunch of times. He is a beast-incredibly hard to bring down. During the draft that year I was screaming at the television cause I thought Anquan would be a late first rounder and he was still on the board for the Redskins at about 42-46 overall. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Every year we hear how good Taylor Jacobs is going to be and then nothing. I'll believe it when I see it.

I can't believe this we passed on Boldin to get the frail Jacobs, Spurrier was the worst. We are lucky he left when he did or else we would have Florida Gators as our team.

I really like Patten, but I want to see him do something..

[redwolf1218]

Patten needs to do something. despite all the hype here, he was buried pretty deep on the Pats depth chart but was able to play due to injuries to the starters, and yes he did contribute when called upon (except for in the post-season, where he all but disappeared), but so far he has not done much here. he's been here longer than Moss so he should have the chemistry and playbook taken care of. oh well it is nice to have a bunch of really good backups.

[openallnight]

I don't think anybody said cut him, we are just calling him what he is, a bust. Let him prove me wrong, I will gladly feast on crow.
RR, I've got to side w/ CK here. If you guys are proclaiming him a bust than what's the use in keeping him around?
Unless, in the back of your mind you're still holding out some glimmer of hope that he'll turn out ok ;)

[BigPlayJay]

I really want to see David Patten arrive this offense. I don't know if it is the play calling that has not relied on us to call on him or if it is just an issue of chemsitry between brunell and Patten that is still under development, but he has to get going. Moss will be even better, just imagine, even better, when and if Patten steps up to be a formidble number two receiver. Thrash is Thrash. Very good receiver, consistent, and dependable. Thrash is the type of WR that EVERY team needs. Jacobs, well, quite frankly, Ive given up hope on him.

After rewatching the game last night Inoticed that they are trying to get Patten involved. They threw to him at least 6 times. He got three, dropped a slant, Brunell underthrew him badly on the deep route (again), and then one pass got tipped away down the right side at about 20 yards. The point is he's been close but it hasn't clicked yet. Brunell clearly isn't used to his down field speed.

I expect it to come around real soon!

[The Skinsinator]

I expected a bit more from Patten myself so far, but he is contributing so far without alot of catches. He garners attention to himself with his speed allowing others to get open. I think his attitude and experience are great for the offense. It is way too early to call judgement on him yet. At New England, he had a knack for the red zone. I couldn't ask anymore from Santana Moss. Just imagine if he was 2 inches taller and weighed 10-25 lbs more. That would be scary. If Jacobs can't ever get healthy, he will gone. Next season, we need another stud receiver (big preferably) and a monstrous pass rushing end.

[redwolf1218]

I expected a bit more from Patten myself so far, but he is contributing so far without alot of catches. He garners attention to himself with his speed allowing others to get open. I think his attitude and experience are great for the offense. It is way too early to call judgement on him yet. At New England, he had a knack for the red zone. I couldn't ask anymore from Santana Moss. Just imagine if he was 2 inches taller and weighed 10-25 lbs more. That would be scary. If Jacobs can't ever get healthy, he will gone. Next season, we need another stud receiver (big preferably) and a monstrous pass rushing end.
and a cornerback.

[CNYSkinFan]

The thing with Patten is he prevents the defense from csliding over all their coverage to Moss. Now Moss is hands down the better receiver so he is exploiting that weakened coverage and getting more balls thrown to him. Soon other teams will start sliding the coverage towards Moss and that is where Patten then dominates. Receivers more then any other position are dependent upon exterior factors to be succesful (defensive coverage and the qb throwing the ball). I am not giving up on anyone after 3 games.

[CowboyKilla]

What do you do with Busts???? The talk of cutting him was to emphasize the point that I personally would do neither, cut him or call him a bust. Not yet. If he doesn't contribute at all the rest of the way, then fine I'm with you.

Also lets not forget that when he has played he has performed pretty well on special teams and has caught almost all balls thrown to him. I'm just not ready to right him off thats all. Calling him a bust = get rid of this guy.
Im not there yet, but do understand where some would say that.

[colkurtz]

Taylor jacobs just hasn't produced. Either hurt or very modest results. I see us drafting for a big posssession WR or FA next off season and he will have to compete against that. I'm with PennSkins - I've given up on him.

Patten and Brunell have been so close to getting some big ones. They will get better as the year porgresses and he will shine.

[X-Factor13]

It's too early to give up guys! It's not like he's rod gardner! I see him gettin in the 3rd wr role a lot more when he's healthy.

You know what though, i bet a lot of jets fans had this same discussion about santana moss after his first year. So i'd shut it for now and see what happens.

[redwolf1218]

i think we need a great possession receiver, but they werent sold on Mike Williams and Rogers was the right pick. the problem is, we also need another corner to progress along with Rogers since Harris and Springs are not spring chickens anymore, and some d-line help since Wynn and Daniels are a little long in the tooth. none of those positions are the kind you traditionally can get late in the draft, so we might have to go after the free agent market. late in the draft we can get a stud safety (we have no one backing up Taylor, and a stud strong safety to pair him up with would be nice). also, there should should be some centers and guards available in the later rounds. i'm not sold on Raymer, Friedman, or Ray Brown as the primary backups. a stud center/guard could learn a lot from Rabach and Randy Thomas.