Media Power Rankings

[chrisbcbu]

Please post all media power rankings here.

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking)

11 (15) Redskins 3-0-0 Pretty amazing -- the Redskins are 3-0 and have won their games by one, two and three points. They keep that up and they'll get their first double-digit win against the Raiders in Week 11.

Hey we moved up 4 spots!

Yahoo (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-rankings100405&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
11. Washington Redskins (3-0) – Still waiting for the wheels to fall off with Mark Brunell at the helm? He was huge under pressure in the win over Seattle, completing 11 of 15 passes on third down for 138 yards.

CBSSportsline (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings)
7 Washington Redskins 9
The resurgence of Mark Brunell is a good story. Maybe the game hasn't passed by Joe Gibbs after all.

NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8926272)
8. Washington (3-0; unchanged): Mark Brunell continues to make Joe Gibbs' quarterback switch look like a smart decision rather than a snap judgment.

Garbage(aka FOXSports) (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4931952)
18. Washington - Last Week 18: What do the 2004 Jaguars and 1999 Patriots have in common? Like Washington, each team started off the season with three straight wins of three points or less. Neither team made the playoffs. Other teams that won three straight games by three points or less include the 8-8 Raiders of 1998 and the 9-7 Dolphins of 1999. Both teams went 2-6 over the second half of the season. That Dolphins team did make the playoffs, though, where they were pummeled 62-7 by Jacksonville. NEXT: at DEN

CNNSI (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/10/05/ranks.week4/index.html?cnn=yes)
8 Washington Redskins (3-0)
The last contest was a tough, bitter, hard fought affair against the Seahawks, and do you know how many penalties were assessed on the Skins? Two for 10 yards. This is what is known as discipline, and I don't mean the kind you see at 2 a.m. on TV with the leather and the spikes.

[Redskin-4-life]

Lets keep climbing baby!!! I'll take a 4 point win against Denver!:flower1:

[Skinz4lyfe]

A respectable showing against Denver this week (win or lose) should keep us in the top 10, if not raise us a few points. We're winning games and w/wins comes respect. Now let's see how we can handle a little bit of success.

[The Skinsinator]

I would agree with most of those rankings actually. Even though NE and SD are 2-2, I don't think we're to their level yet. Maybe soon though. I'm loving the progession though. Keep it up Skins. One game at a time and let's handle Denver. That will garner mega respect.

[akhhorus]

A respectable showing against Denver this week (win or lose) should keep us in the top 10, if not raise us a few points. We're winning games and w/wins comes respect. Now let's see how we can handle a little bit of success.

beating Denver and KC on the road in sucessive weeks would vault the Skins into the top 3.

[smoak]

beating Denver and KC on the road in sucessive weeks would vault the Skins into the top 3.

Well yeah, but but what odds would you lay on that...

Actually, what odds would you lay on:

Us winning a game where we only kicked FGs
Us winnning in little D when we were down 13 with about 5 minutes remaining.
Us winning after an opposing kicker nails a game winning FG only to have it miraculously sail left and hit the upright

Maybe we're on to something special here.

[MDSkins#1]

beating Denver and KC on the road in sucessive weeks would vault the Skins into the top 3.

^^^ Agreed :) we will be much higher in the rankings if we win those 2 games. but our d has to step up and not give up big plays down the stretch like against seattle and our offense plays well and moves the ball consistently against a great denver d. we also shud be puttin up on the mid 20's in points, and not let kc's offense dominate our d. their d isnt that great, kinda like seattles, so hopefuuly we can move the ball well against them. if we go 2-0 in these next two tough road games, then the respect will start coming and teams will be afraid of what we have goin on.

[Santheb]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings

7 Washington Redskins 9
The resurgence of Mark Brunell is a good story. Maybe the game hasn't passed by Joe Gibbs after all.

[chrisbcbu]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings

Wow i cant believe CBS has us at 7th.

[Biggie]

beating Denver and KC on the road in sucessive weeks would vault the Skins into the top 3.

We'll probably crack the top five if we end up 4-1.

[candeeman]

Maybe it's me, but the lower the skins are ranked the better. Winning grows confidence and a lower ranking will tick off the players making them play with a chip on their shoulder.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

The resurgence of Mark Brunell is a good story. Maybe the game hasn't passed by Joe Gibbs after all.
no, and it never did. why is it when all the other new head coaches their first year dont do well, the media doesnt blame them, but for gibbs, they all think he should quit or something.

[whitskins]

Wilbon had a great Gibbs quote on PTI yesterday. He said the Skins may be lucky but could also develop into a really legit team and their performance reminded him of this Gibbs quote, "First you win, then you get good." I think that's exactly right, let's see how much better this team can get throughout the year and keep piling up the W's in the act.

[C-7]

There's only one Power Rankings I'm waiting to read.


Come on Spence, where are you?

[smoak]

Maybe it's me, but the lower the skins are ranked the better. Winning grows confidence and a lower ranking will tick off the players making them play with a chip on their shoulder.

I agree. I'd rather they be angry rather than reading their own press clippings.

[IMALILTEAPOT]

Wilbon had a great Gibbs quote on PTI yesterday. He said the Skins may be lucky but could also develop into a really legit team and their performance reminded him of this Gibbs quote, "First you win, then you get good." I think that's exactly right, let's see how much better this team can get throughout the year and keep piling up the W's in the act.
i like that quote a lot.

[hockeygoalie29]

There's only one Power Rankings I'm waiting to read.


Come on Spence, where are you?

I guess he's too busy wreaking havoc on the Broncos fan boards! :sfight:

[DoGood]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings
I can't in good conscience put the 'Skins above the Chargers and Pats. But it sure looks nice huh?

[828791Redskins]

Speaking of the media @$$holes,did anyone hear them ripping us last night on Nfl countdown.They were saying we were the worst 3-0 team of all time.Pisses me off.Then today I heard SI is going to have an article about the same.That kind of stuff frustrates me.Anyone else hear any of this crap.

[whitskins]

The new Fox Sports rankings have us at 18, only one spot up from last week and still below the Seahawks and Dallas. They use some super weighted and idiotic ranking system but I think this is just garbage. Did they forget to factor in WINS in their ranking system?

[chrisbcbu]

The new Fox Sports rankings have us at 18, only one spot up from last week and still below the Seahawks and Dallas. They use some super weighted and idiotic ranking system but I think this is just garbage. Did they forget to factor in WINS in their ranking system?

Umm well when a sports website has a poll on the NFL page asking "Who is sexiest?" then you cant really listen to anymore of the website.

[chrisbcbu]

FOXSports (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4931952)
18. Washington - Last Week 18: What do the 2004 Jaguars and 1999 Patriots have in common? Like Washington, each team started off the season with three straight wins of three points or less. Neither team made the playoffs. Other teams that won three straight games by three points or less include the 8-8 Raiders of 1998 and the 9-7 Dolphins of 1999. Both teams went 2-6 over the second half of the season. That Dolphins team did make the playoffs, though, where they were pummeled 62-7 by Jacksonville. NEXT: at DEN

[IMALILTEAPOT]

wow. just wow

they have us at 18, behind the bills, dolphins, and cowboys

[X-Factor13]

Well yeah, but but what odds would you lay on that...

Actually, what odds would you lay on:

Us winning a game where we only kicked FGs
Us winnning in little D when we were down 13 with about 5 minutes remaining.
Us winning after an opposing kicker nails a game winning FG only to have it miraculously sail left and hit the upright

Maybe we're on to something special here.

lol good point

[BurgundyNGold]

FOXSports (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4931952)
We've got to beat Denver this week or stupid comments such as these are going to persist. The national press is so in love with Shanahan that if we beat Denver, they'd have quite the dilemma -- say that Denver isn't as great as they're touting them to be or give us our props. Either one would be fine with me.

[Redskin-4-life]

Umm well when a sports website has a poll on the NFL page asking "Who is sexiest?" then you cant really listen to anymore of the website.
They can't be serious. They must like us ripping them to have us ranked at 18. They're just making themselves look like morons.

[becky]

beating Denver and KC on the road in sucessive weeks would vault the Skins into the top 3.

how could it not? you want proof of legitimacy? that would be it. in my opinion, denver will be the more difficult opponent. our o-line needs to have a really good game, end of story.

[Santheb]

Don't know if anyone else noticed this in the Fox Sports one, but they have our defensive ranking as 16th.

And I love how this guy is promoting his own stupid as bad word site.

The FOXSports.com NFL Power Ratings are based on the innovative DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average) ratings from FootballOutsiders.com. The DVOA system breaks down every single play of the season and compares each one to the NFL average based on situation and opponent. Each play is judged on both total yards and yards towards a first down.


Teams are ranked by a formula that combines the team's rating at the end of 2004, our 2005 pre-season projections, and 2005 actual performance. Each week, the first two items will become less important, and the last item more important. (2005 performance is now one-half of the rating, while last week it was just one-third.) By Week 8, we'll only be basing the ratings on this year's games, and starting the next week, we'll start using a formula that makes early games less important so that we can account for teams that are heating up at the end of the year.

Guess who posted the article? A fella named Aaron Schatz. Guess who started footballoutsiders.com? You guessed it, Aaron Schatz!

[chrisbcbu]

Don't know if anyone else noticed this in the Fox Sports one, but they have our defensive ranking as 16th.

And I love how this guy is promoting his own stupid as bad word site.



Guess who posted the article? A fella named Aaron Schatz. Guess who started footballoutsiders.com? You guessed it, Aaron Schatz!

Yea if you look at his formula it has last seasons ratings plus this preseason rating then finally this years performance. Its basically garbage.

[PennSkinsFan]

what would anyone really expect from a news source like Fox.

[GWBlitzST]

FOXSports (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4931952)
Did anybody get the name of that Jacksonville QB who stomped Miami in the playoffs? Maybe he could help our QB carosel and finally get some wins so we won't be so low in the rankings:)

[Wild Bore]

I like the comments by Dr. Z. this week. He has us at 8 in the SI power poll. Maybe we have another believer finally.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/10/05/ranks.week4/index.html?cnn=yes

[Redskin-4-life]

I like the comments by Dr. Z. this week. He has us at 8 in the SI power poll. Maybe we have another believer finally.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/10/05/ranks.week4/index.html?cnn=yes
I was shocked, I was expecting another wise crack, he's slowly converting.:)

[chrisbcbu]

I like the comments by Dr. Z. this week. He has us at 8 in the SI power poll. Maybe we have another believer finally.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/10/05/ranks.week4/index.html?cnn=yes

yea i saw that as well. Im suprised he didnt bash us. Or at least attempt a cheap shot.

[RoanokeSkin]

I like the comments by Dr. Z. this week. He has us at 8 in the SI power poll. Maybe we have another believer finally.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/10/05/ranks.week4/index.html?cnn=yes

Now maybe he can get Peter Queen to believe.

[Biggie]

And so the bandwagon begins.

Kornheiser, that thing better still be in your garage. Russ Grimm should drive.

[SkinsGuru]

beating Denver and KC on the road in sucessive weeks would vault the Skins into the top 3.

maybe top 5 . . . but Indy, Pittsburg, NE and Phili would still be ahead of us now matter what we do over the next 2 games

[smoak]

I personally don't care where we are ranked, but if we win the next two games I'll be confident that we can beat anyone in the leaguue including Indy/Philly.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I personally don't care where we are ranked, but if we win the next two games I'll be confident that we can beat anyone in the leaguue including Indy/Philly.

I'm confident we can beat any team.... the thing that troubles me is that we are also vulnerable to any other team.

[smoak]

I'm confident we can beat any team.... the thing that troubles me is that we are also vulnerable to any other team.

I feel that way at home, but I want to see how we fare against what could be our toughest road game.

[JoeJacksonTaylor28]

I feel that way at home, but I want to see how we fare against what could be our toughest road game.


Well, at least we get to play against the Broncos in October, it would have been devastating playing them in December. I honestly don't think we cant play in a more hostile environment than Dallas, involving the psychological factor.

[redskinz#1fan]

Lets keep climbing baby!!! I'll take a 4 point win against Denver!:flower1:

Thank you! I will take any points in any game, as long as we put up the "W"! Winning is more important then some damn stats! PERIOD!


Hail Redskins!

[redskinz#1fan]

beating Denver and KC on the road in sucessive weeks would vault the Skins into the top 3.

You would think so, but with the way the media is down playing every win we make it would probably drop us in the ratings. They will just make some excuse as to why denver and kc lost to us, rather then why we beat them.

[smoak]

Well, at least we get to play against the Broncos in October, it would have been devastating playing them in December. I honestly don't think we cant play in a more hostile environment than Dallas, involving the psychological factor.

I agree about the dallass environment and I hope the experience carries the team in denver.

[Sweepea436]

I was shocked, I was expecting another wise crack, he's slowly converting.:)

Which scares me. We have played so well with everybody mocking us.....

[akhhorus]

The new Fox Sports rankings have us at 18, only one spot up from last week and still below the Seahawks and Dallas. They use some super weighted and idiotic ranking system but I think this is just garbage. Did they forget to factor in WINS in their ranking system?

I would like to point out that the Fox rankings had Buffalo at #7 last week.

[ryflan47]

I would like to point out that the Fox rankings had Buffalo at #7 last week.
Comon, Buffalo is a top 30 team, give them their props.

[whitskins]

I would like to point out that the Fox rankings had Buffalo at #7 last week.

Well, JP Losman is putting up Jonathan Quinn type numbers. This team should be a real force to be reckoned with...

The stupidest thing about the Fox rankings is that they actually factor in both last year's performance AND the preseason rankings... Totally worthless.

[chrisbcbu]

I would like to point out that the Fox rankings had Buffalo at #7 last week.

Yea if you look at my first post i basically call them garbage. Their system is completely flawed, and i cant believe it actually finds its way on the internet.

[colkurtz]

Message from the media - if the Redskins win, they get some props and move up. But the media support is paper thin - when we lose (hopefully never) they'll be staying the sky is falling.

[GeneralDisorder]

Jinkies.

Win 52-17 and we're up to third:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/

[GolfFreak]

Wow - 3rd in the power rankings ... how things change from the beginning of the year.

[Patrick]

Even more amazing - according to that we are the #1 NFC team.

[smoak]

3 is way too high for now. The Giants and Iggles need to be taken out first and foremost and then maybe I'll agree with #3. Near 10 (give or take) is where I would put us now. If we continue to be on the + side of turnovers, there is not a team we can't beat, period. I believe that in my heart!

[Redskin-4-life]

3 is way too high for now. The Giants and Iggles need to be taken out first and foremost and then maybe I'll agree with #3. Near 10 (give or take) is where I would put us now. If we continue to be on the + side of turnovers, there is not a team we can't beat, period. I believe that in my heart!

I agree!, but being ranked #3 is still good to see. Consistancy is the key and being on the plus side of the turnover ratio.

[CNYSkinFan]

Jinkies.

Win 52-17 and we're up to third:

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/

While this is nice to see, I surely don't agree with the entire list. Denver is not #2. No way they are better then Pitt. Jacksonville is a fraud and not a top ten team, and the love affari with the 3-4 Chargers needs to end. They are 3-4 for christ's sake.

[Wild Bore]

While this is nice to see, I surely don't agree with the entire list. Denver is not #2. No way they are better then Pitt. Jacksonville is a fraud and not a top ten team, and the love affari with the 3-4 Chargers needs to end. They are 3-4 for christ's sake.How can Jacksonville be a fraud at 4-2 with the toughest schedule in the league by far?

[GWBlitzST]

Those rankings look about right to me. Switch Denver and Pittsboig though. Washington is for real this year, and I'm basing that more on the previous two away games than anything else.

[OCSkinzFan]

These Rankings are from three games ago.
WHAT's UP?

[DoGood]

How can Jacksonville be a fraud at 4-2 with the toughest schedule in the league by far?

Fraud or not, look at Jacksonville's remaining schedule...

at St. Louis
Houston
Baltimore
at Tennessee
at Arizona
at Cleveland
Indianapolis
San Francisco
at Houston
Tennessee

That schedule would make an average team look amazing.

[redskin_rich]

These Rankings are from three games ago.
WHAT's UP?
Scroll up to the first post with todays date or just read it here:

http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/showpost.php?p=592158&postcount=51

[ArtMonk4HOF]

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings

They have us at ten this week, behind the eagles and giants but ahead of dallas.

[TommySkins3]

Has anyone else noticed this trend: Comparing the power rankings on CBS and ESPN there is an interesting pattern. Take a Look:

Team___CBS rank_____ESPN rank
Phily______3___________ 7
NYG______ 6___________ 10
Skins_____10___________14
Dallas_____12___________16

As you can see, every team in our division drops 4 rankings from the CBS poll to ESPN. Any reason why ESPN isnt showing love for the NFC East?"

[skins111111]

Has anyone else noticed this trend: Comparing the power rankings on CBS and ESPN there is an interesting pattern. Take a Look:

Team___CBS rank_____ESPN rank
Phily______3___________ 7
NYG______ 6___________ 10
Skins_____10___________14
Dallas_____12___________16

As you can see, every team in our division drops 4 rankings from the CBS poll to ESPN. Any reason why ESPN isnt showing love for the NFC East?"


there will be no choice after we smoke the Giants Eagles and BUCS
we will be top 5 every where and top 3 by the final 4-5 games of the season
..........#1 by the end of the playoffs........

[FanFromArizona]

"12. Washington (4-2; unranked): With all of their offensive firepower and defensive strength, the Redskins seem to have the necessary ingredients for a brutal stretch vs. the Giants, Eagles and Buccaneers. "

I think this spells it all.

[bgforever]

I love the way props are over-extended to the Giants because Eli is Peyton's brother. Sure he's the Giants QB, sure he's doing better, but you can't sell me the Giants team over the Skins, much less the hated Cowpokes! Surely there's some chicanery going on there, so let them have the way on paper. We'll take the one in the standings. I expect a slugfest, to soften up the line, but hasn't Washington owned theirs.

So the lofty given 6 or 9/10 spot over DC and Dallas is fine with me, creates more incentive for the Skins to bang dat a--.

Oh yeah, Santana, take the team to a really nice "nuetral" spot to eat, so there' s no mystery meat in the breakfast!

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

I love the way props are over-extended to the Giants because Eli is Peyton's brother. Sure he's the Giants QB, sure he's doing better, but you can't sell me the Giants team over the Skins, much less the hated Cowpokes! Surely there's some chicanery going on there, so let them have the way on paper. We'll take the one in the standings. I expect a slugfest, to soften up the line, but hasn't Washington owned theirs.

So the lofty given 6 or 9/10 spot over DC and Dallas is fine with me, creates more incentive for the Skins to bang dat a--.

Oh yeah, Santana, take the team to a really nice "nuetral" spot to eat, so there' s no mystery meat in the breakfast!
Im fine with the lovefest over Eli since we will be his answer to the Patriots.

[bgforever]

Im fine with the lovefest over Eli since we will be his answer to the Patriots.

Meaning we will be more of the fortified team to handle him every game? I think Barber is wanting the ball a lot more in this one, but I see LaVar wanting Barber even more than he'll ever know :)

[DUCKIN_TACKLERS]

Meaning we will be more of the fortified team to handle him every game? I think Barber is wanting the ball a lot more in this one, but I see LaVar wanting Barber even more than he'll ever know :)
Yeah Im kinda mad ill be missing this game(on a plane) but I think we match up real well with Eli. We have good CBs and a Punishing Ballhawking Safety and With the Secondary at full Strength Im looking forward to alot more blitzing.

[Redskin-4-life]

I thought I've seen it all? check out where fox rates us this week.

spots.http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5023840