View Full Version : Et tu, NFL.com??
Redskin4Life
10-05-2005, 04:46 PM
Even the OFFICIAL website for the NFL couldn't help but take a shot at us and our "weak" 3-0 start:
UNBEATEN
All those cheers emanating out of Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Tampa Bay and potentially Washington are justified.
Since the 1970 merger, 95 teams have started an NFL season 4-0. And of those 95, an impressive 79 have made the playoffs.
The Bengals are 4-0 for the first time since 1988, the Colts are 4-0 for the first time since 2003, the Buccaneers 4-0 for the first time since 1997, the Redskins 3-0 for the first time since 1991.
Four-and-oh is rarified air for any franchise, but especially these franchises. A quarter of the way through the season, they have reason to celebrate.
But forgive Washington if it is too unnerved to celebrate. The Redskins' three victories have come by a combined six points.
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/8924067
dj_stouty
10-05-2005, 04:49 PM
Everyone has been laughing at our team for three straight weeks...but we have been the ones laughing after the wins.
Let them keep putting us under the radar!
Who cares bu how much we win?
Redskin4Life
10-05-2005, 04:55 PM
No one in Carolina cared when the Panthers were winning games on last minute FGs or late 4th quarter drives to win... and they went to the Super Bowl with that formula.
smoak
10-05-2005, 04:58 PM
Keep writing us off... PLEASE! I want no respect from anyone in the media or NFL. All I want is another Lombardi for Coach Gibbs, the players, staff, and fans
No one in Carolina cared when the Panthers were winning games on last minute FGs or late 4th quarter drives to win... and they went to the Super Bowl with that formula.
I've thought about that lately as well. This team kind of reminds me of them. Go Skins!
SimplyZ
10-05-2005, 04:59 PM
No one in Carolina cared when the Panthers were winning games on last minute FGs or late 4th quarter drives to win... and they went to the Super Bowl with that formula.
and steroids apparently ;)
Too many columnists don't really study individual teams, just watch a highlight show and make a column...or atleast it doesnt seem like it.
BurgundyNGold
10-05-2005, 05:01 PM
Everyone has been laughing at our team for three straight weeks...but we have been the ones laughing after the wins.
Let them keep putting us under the radar!
Feels eerily like '82, no?
The Skinsinator
10-05-2005, 05:01 PM
I don't think this guy is really taking a "shot" at us. What he said is pretty truthful. All our victories were very close and exciting and we may be pretty wound up after them, especially the last two. I really don't see that he is trying to belittle our success just stating the obvious.
CarMike
10-05-2005, 05:07 PM
What they fail to mention is that last years team would have started out 0-3. This group of guys has come a long way. Beating Dallass in the last 3 minutes, then beating the Seahawks in OT shouts out what kind character this team has.
Screw everyone who doubts us!
PA Skins Girl
10-05-2005, 05:09 PM
I think our opponents have been tougher than any of the other unbeatens.
Santheb
10-05-2005, 05:16 PM
No one in Carolina cared when the Panthers were winning games on last minute FGs or late 4th quarter drives to win... and they went to the Super Bowl with that formula.
When Carolina did it, they were gutsy, scrappy, and finding ways to win. Evidently we're just ugly or something.
IMALILTEAPOT
10-05-2005, 05:21 PM
i guess in order for us to be good we have to blow out teams, instead if justing beating them.
ps santheb u finally got an avatar! good choice :)
Sonoma
10-05-2005, 05:23 PM
A win is a win. I dont care if we win by 100 points or 1 point, it still counts the same in the W column. I love all these so called "experts" saying we are the worst 3 - 0 team ever, I don't know any NFL team that would say they would rather be 2 - 1 then 3 - 0. If we sucked so bad we should have lost these games.
I have a feeling this team is something special, I just hope all these idiots don't get on the bandwagon towards the end of the season when we are rolling cause there won't be any room for these haters.
Santheb
10-05-2005, 05:24 PM
i guess in order for us to be good we have to blow out teams, instead if justing beating them.
ps santheb u finally got an avatar! good choice :)
Thank you, thank you.
CornerBlitz
10-05-2005, 06:10 PM
No one in Carolina cared when the Panthers were winning games on last minute FGs or late 4th quarter drives to win... and they went to the Super Bowl with that formula.
Exactly what I have been thinking since the seahawks win.
Biggie
10-05-2005, 06:17 PM
I don't think Schefter was taking a jab at us, just making a point. You guys can't tell me you were biting your nails on Dallas's last position or on Josh Brown's attempt at the end of regulation.
frenchskinsfan
10-05-2005, 07:04 PM
NFL.com can also be sooo gentle !
here's what I just read :
"WASHINGTON: The club is off to a 4-0 start, its best since beginning 11-0 in 1991 en route to a win in Super Bowl XXVI ..."
on this page : http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8927495
The Skinsinator
10-05-2005, 07:14 PM
I don't think Schefter was taking a jab at us, just making a point. You guys can't tell me you were biting your nails on Dallas's last position or on Josh Brown's attempt at the end of regulation.
Ah. Finally, someone sees the light. I wouldn't exactly call his comments Pasquarelli-like. They were truthful. We won 3 gut-wrenching games. If those games weren't gut-wrenching, I don't know what is.
SkinsKY
10-05-2005, 09:02 PM
I guess we're lucky it doesn't matter how much we win by. If these other teams are so good, they should have won their games. We're winning ours and one of only four teams that are undefeated so far. We've taken care of our business, so the question is, why haven't these "better" teams taken care of theirs.
IMALILTEAPOT
10-05-2005, 09:05 PM
what makes me mad is how they say we havent beaten good teams yet. hey, we play whoever is on our schedule. we cant help if we havent played championship level teams yet. what, are we supposed to say, "you know, i dont like this schedule, lets play the colts, patriots and steelers instead of the cowboys, bears and seahawks." at least we won these games, if we were so bad, we would of lost these close games
BurgundyNGold
10-05-2005, 09:25 PM
what makes me mad is how they say we havent beaten good teams yet. hey, we play whoever is on our schedule. we cant help if we havent played championship level teams yet. what, are we supposed to say, "you know, i dont like this schedule, lets play the colts, patriots and steelers instead of the cowboys, bears and seahawks." at least we won these games, if we were so bad, we would of lost these close games
Tell me about it. Dallass was reborn, well, until we beat them. Then they weren't so good for some reason. Then the Shehawks came to town with their vaunted #2 offense. Yet, then when we beat them, they magically became mediocre by halftime of the Sunday night game. Tom Jackson was laughing. Laughing! What a crock. I understand that by virtue of a loss that a team doesn't look as good as they did before, but let's not act like these are tomato cans either.
IMALILTEAPOT
10-05-2005, 09:29 PM
Tell me about it. Dallass was reborn, well, until we beat them. Then they weren't so good for some reason. Then the Shehawks came to town with their vaunted #2 offense. Yet, then when we beat them, they magically became mediocre by halftime of the Sunday night game. Tom Jackson was laughing. Laughing! What a crock. I understand that by virtue of a loss that a team doesn't look as good as they did before, but let's not act like these are tomato cans either.
if we beat denver, i can bet my life that the sunday nite crew is gonna be like, "Denver cant win cuz of plummer." And take away the significance of the win for us. i dont care what they say, if we go 4-0, THATS GOOD.
Biggie
10-05-2005, 10:13 PM
if we beat denver, i can bet my life that the sunday nite crew is gonna be like, "Denver cant win cuz of plummer." And take away the significance of the win for us. i dont care what they say, if we go 4-0, THATS GOOD.
Not even Len Pasquarelli will call 4-0 bad. The man is fat, not stupid.
BurgundyNGold
10-05-2005, 10:16 PM
Not even Len Pasquarelli will call 4-0 bad. The man is fat, not stupid.
I have to disagree there. He is, in fact, stupid AND fat.
Biggie
10-05-2005, 10:43 PM
I have to disagree there. He is, in fact, stupid AND fat.
He is not the stupidest of the fat.
Peter the King is.
Redskin Scott
10-05-2005, 11:02 PM
I dare say that I hate and loathe the League office and its parrot-sites more than anybody here, but they have a good point. The Redskins are winning but they're not winning by much. Respect borne of fear will come if/when our guys can beat the stuffing out of the Eagles and Giants by better than a 10-point margin on game day.
When our squad wins by way of an opponent's missed field goal last week and a pass-mad "bombs away" approach with less than five minutes left three weeks ago, most analysts and commentators will tend to take a wait and see attitude (at best).
Our guys need to score one HECK of a lot more points per game, more to keep my blood pressure down than over what some spokeshole for the League has to say on the web.
becky
10-06-2005, 12:20 AM
"WASHINGTON: The club is off to a 4-0 start, its best since beginning 11-0 in 1991 en route to a win in Super Bowl XXVI ..."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8927495
see even THEY know we're a shoe in to beat denver! :lol1:
flave1969
10-06-2005, 04:47 AM
Feels eerily like '82, no?
That is exactly what I was thinking. I know this team is not a patch on the 82 vintage but that year was punctuated by tight wins at the start of the season including an OT victory against Philly.
All we need is a strike now.
Redskin-4-life
10-06-2005, 09:02 AM
if we beat denver, i can bet my life that the sunday nite crew is gonna be like, "Denver cant win cuz of plummer." And take away the significance of the win for us. i dont care what they say, if we go 4-0, THATS GOOD.
Or they will mention that Denver just had a bad day or tired, not that we just beat and we're a good team.
smoak
10-06-2005, 09:48 AM
I dare say that I hate and loathe the League office and its parrot-sites more than anybody here, but they have a good point. The Redskins are winning but they're not winning by much. Respect borne of fear will come if/when our guys can beat the stuffing out of the Eagles and Giants by better than a 10-point margin on game day.
When our squad wins by way of an opponent's missed field goal last week and a pass-mad "bombs away" approach with less than five minutes left three weeks ago, most analysts and commentators will tend to take a wait and see attitude (at best).
Our guys need to score one HECK of a lot more points per game, more to keep my blood pressure down than over what some spokeshole for the League has to say on the web.
There is medication out there for blood pressure (I may need to look into it), and I'll take a 2 point win ANY day. Teams like St. Louis back in the day and the Giants now don't have the defense and never really face adversity... They either win big or lose big. The Skins however are forced to scratch and claw for every ounce of everything we get in this league.... I like that.
Then again, I don't want respect. I want to win.
BurgundyNGold
10-06-2005, 11:32 AM
He is not the stupidest of the fat.
Peter the King is.
Touche. However, he may well be the fattest of the stupid. ;)
RedskinRyan
10-06-2005, 11:45 AM
No one in Carolina cared when the Panthers were winning games on last minute FGs or late 4th quarter drives to win... and they went to the Super Bowl with that formula.
thats exactly what i was thinking. and besides, dont they always say its always the good teams that win the close games? so why is it any different when we win the close ones?
GWBlitzST
10-06-2005, 12:17 PM
The Redskins are winning but they're not winning by much. Respect borne of fear will come if/when our guys can beat the stuffing out of the Eagles and Giants by better than a 10-point margin on game day.
When our squad wins by way of an opponent's missed field goal last week and a pass-mad "bombs away" approach with less than five minutes left three weeks ago, most analysts and commentators will tend to take a wait and see attitude (at best).
The thing about that is Joe Gibbs plays to make it a close game. He tries to eliminate turnovers, assuming, as I do, that in time, the turnover ratio will swing our way, and that is when we will really start dropping points. Right now, we are just battling the whole game, trying to control the clock, which would explain why we have scored 14.2 ppg and are 3-0. Our offense needs a LOT of work, but it's steadily improving, and our defense has completely dominated right up until the second half last week against the #w O in the NFL, and they still came through with a stop at the end. I feel like we dominated the Seahawks and the Bears in those two games, and vs. Dallas anything goes.
camasterton
10-06-2005, 01:09 PM
What they fail to mention is that last years team would have started out 0-3. This group of guys has come a long way. Beating Dallass in the last 3 minutes, then beating the Seahawks in OT shouts out what kind character this team has.
Screw everyone who doubts us!
I heard Dan Reeves say, "First you win, then you get good"! "It becomes a habit and an expectation". That's what it was like in the first Gibbs go-round.
A continued win streak like the one were on will get us to good!
But don't expect respect anytime soon. Even the book makers are down on us and they don't have an agenda! The line on the Redskins is +7 vs the Broncos. Only the 49ers have a lesser chance against the Colts, according to the books. Seven points is a statement that the Redskins will be pummeled! Our defense be damned!
Keino
10-06-2005, 01:14 PM
I think it's good. I don't want any respect until we are 8-0. Teams who are being disrespected play with a chip on their shoulders.......
camasterton
10-06-2005, 01:18 PM
I think it's good. I don't want any respect until we are 8-0. Teams who are being disrespected play with a chip on their shoulders.......
Excellent! I can see that helping the Team but don't you think that is what's missing from Clinton Portis and LaVar Arrington? They could be leaders and less milktoast, don't you think?
golongdude
10-06-2005, 05:12 PM
When you win games against average teams (one poor) by a 2pt margin, you don't deserve to be feared. Let the offense start displaying some power, then we can talk. Until then, all you're doing is blowing hot air into a balloon, and if it pops, then you look foolish.
Hardly anyone out there writing is going to go fanatical for the Redskins at this point. Nor should they.
smoak
10-06-2005, 05:24 PM
When you win games against average teams (one poor) by a 2pt margin, you don't deserve to be feared. Let the offense start displaying some power, then we can talk. Until then, all you're doing is blowing hot air into a balloon, and if it pops, then you look foolish.
Hardly anyone out there writing is going to go fanatical for the Redskins at this point. Nor should they.
I'll take winning by 2 point over losing by 4 (last season) any day. Keep barely squeaking out wins baby. My heart can take the abuse.
CowboyKilla
10-06-2005, 05:25 PM
I love it. This game is Huge. Win or lose this can be a special season.
Go skins.
bantu
10-06-2005, 06:18 PM
When you win games against average teams (one poor) by a 2pt margin, you don't deserve to be feared. Let the offense start displaying some power, then we can talk. Until then, all you're doing is blowing hot air into a balloon, and if it pops, then you look foolish.
Hardly anyone out there writing is going to go fanatical for the Redskins at this point. Nor should they.
I totally agree with you, 100%. I love the fact that we are 3-0 and it does take a good team to scratch out close wins, but we as fans need a reality check. We aren't that good yet. Our offense has looked a lot better the last 5 quarters, so lets hope that is not an anomaly. I hate to say this, but I hate the way our defense has played in the last two games. In fact, I think our pressure sucks big time and we are going to get burned very soon. In fact, had Seattle won the coin toss in OT, we probably all would be cursing our D this week. They got exposed in that 2nd half. And if our pass rush stays this pathetic, it is not going to be good.
ihatedallas
10-06-2005, 07:15 PM
this doesnt bother me...there jjust stating weve one close ones. W/e if we win close ones and are still undefeated who cares?
beerman72
10-06-2005, 09:20 PM
I think our opponents have been tougher than any of the other unbeatens.
I think you make a good point. If you look at the other unbeaten team's schedules so far, only Indianapolis has played a tougher game than we have (Jacksonville, who beat Seattle at home in week one, so by default, that win is better than ours over the 'Hawks).
Indianapolis 4-0 (beat Bal, Jax, Cle, Ten....combined records 5-9)
Tampa Bay 4-0 (beat Min, Buf, GB, Det....combined records 3-12)
Cincinnati 4-0 (beat Cle, Min, Chi, Hou...combined records 3-10)
Washington 3-0 (beat Chi, Dal, Sea....combined records 5-6)
Tampa and Cincy have played nothing but one-win or win-less teams thus far. We've played two two-win teams and a one-win team....Indy has played one two-win team and three one-win teams.:)
I know its early and records can be deceiving, but its not like we we've beaten a bunch of 0-4 teams.
I'll take the close wins and keep flying under the radar of the NFL anyday
Biggie
10-06-2005, 09:33 PM
In terms of the best undefeateds, I have us just after Cincinnati and Indy. Those guys are good, but TB rides on Carnell too much.
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