Injury Updates?

[smoak]

Not sure if people think this adds value or not, but I wouldn't mind seeing a thread where we track injuries from week to week. So far I've heard some VERY disturbing updates over the radio including the following:

Walt Harris and Shawn Springs both banged up (Seems like both are questionable)

Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts both banged up (Clinton sounds doubtful according to Gibbs)

John Hall seems unlikely to play or get cut (Gibbs said they would carry two kickers)


Any others? I'm thinking the fans (especially those local to the team) would know better than the weekly injury report released to the media.

[redskin_rich]

Today's WP article said Portis had a "minor ailment", as did Salavea, both played through it on Sunday. I think Portis will be listed at probable or questionable at worst, he'll play.
Springs is not expected to practice, Harris is and Hall is seeking a second opinion. :rolleyes:

Edit- Also Jansen gets his left hand cast off this week.

[ChiefIronHorse]

I hope you're players make a full recovery. Even for this game against my beloved CHIEFS. I know that it's no excuse when players get hurt and the teams suffers. However, it's nice to have a healthy team to give you the best chance to win.

Good luck in the injury department... I can't say good luck this weekend.

[chrisbcbu]

Not sure if people think this adds value or not, but I wouldn't mind seeing a thread where we track injuries from week to week. So far I've heard some VERY disturbing updates over the radio including the following:

Walt Harris and Shawn Springs both banged up (Seems like both are questionable)

Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts both banged up (Clinton sounds doubtful according to Gibbs)

John Hall seems unlikely to play or get cut (Gibbs said they would carry two kickers)


Any others? I'm thinking the fans (especially those local to the team) would know better than the weekly injury report released to the media.

Well according to the WashingtonPost: Springs, Harris, Portis, Betts are all going to play.

Which is really good for our running game and our secondary.

Also Jansen got one of his casts off this week, so he is almost 100%. I guess now they can call some holding penalties on him.

[smoak]

I saw that Springs and Harris are both expected to play which is ggod news.

What happened to Betts? How did he get hurt? I'm worried that some of these injuries will rear their ugly head during the game on Sunday.

Jansen has been absolutely amazing and gets apermant thumbs up from me. Frankly, if he doesn't play, I could see us being 0-4 right now. Ogunleye could have dominated anyone we put out there. Plus the Seahawks and Cowboys would have attacked that side more....

Thanks Jon for being such a warrior.

[dj_stouty]

Its looking like we will be close to full stregnth at gametime...minus John Hall, of course.

When it is all said and done...this season probably hinges on the health of our CBs. If Springs and Harris are hurt, our defense's opportunities to be aggressive are minimized. We will need to rely on our defense in the upcoming games, especially against KC, NY and PHL.

[hail2skins]

I hear the left cast is coming off of Jansen. That's good news.

[ChiefPowhatan17]

John Hall might be back this week. I don't want him to rush, but I think we could us that roster spot for a DB or a LB

[Discalced]

With a healthy secondary, we own KC. Play them and then rest them for the SF game if they are shaky. I wouldn't be concerned with Jimoh on an island against Alex Smith.

[chrisbcbu]

With a healthy secondary, we own KC. Play them and then rest them for the SF game if they are shaky. I wouldn't be concerned with Jimoh on an island against Alex Smith.

Wow i forgot that we play San Fran next. Thats what i get for not looking ahead!! I seriously hope we can beat KC, cause if we can we could possibly go 5-1 headed to the Giants stadium!

[smoak]

Wow i forgot that we play San Fran next. Thats what i get for not looking ahead!! I seriously hope we can beat KC, cause if we can we could possibly go 5-1 headed to the Giants stadium!

Chris -

Once we play KC, do NOT look past SF. We've lost to lesser teams in past, and I'm worried the team might be concentrating too much on NY/Philly.

[CornerBlitz]

Thats why I considered the broncos game so important because then we wouldnt have to worry so much about this potent kansas city offense.

[smoak]

John Hall might be back this week. I don't want him to rush, but I think we could us that roster spot for a DB or a LB

Amen! I hate carrying two kickers. If I had my way we'd carry one kicker/punter and another player on the team (maybe a QB would be able to handle duties in a pinch).

OK, maybe not, but I don't want to carry two kickers.

[chrisbcbu]

John Hall might be back this week. I don't want him to rush, but I think we could us that roster spot for a DB or a LB

I dont see hall coming back this week. He has barely kicked this week. But i think he could be ready next week.

[chrisbcbu]

Chris -

Once we play KC, do NOT look past SF. We've lost to lesser teams in past, and I'm worried the team might be concentrating too much on NY/Philly.

hence the word i used (possibly). I dont look past any team, heck i didnt even know who we played after KC until someone brought it up.

[CornerBlitz]

So is there any updates on Harris, Portis, Hall, or Springs?

[Discalced]

My understanding is that Springs and Harris should be good to go. This is from reading a few different articles, none of them (however) said it was a sure thing.

[The Skinsinator]

We need Portis for this game and at least one starting corner at a bare minimum. I don't even want to think about not having above the mentioned players for this one. This is going to be a very good game. Dick Vermeil will be ready to go. If our offense keeps going and punches some in the endzone, I think we will win. Defense needs to not allow any big runs and maybe get some turnovers. Wishful thinking up to this point.

[STaylor#21]

I think Harris and Springs are definetly going to play. Everywhere I have read has said probable/questionable and keep in mind it is only Wednesday and they are saying this.

Portis is definetly going to play, do you really think he'd pass up playing his old rival?

As for the Hall situation, as much as I would like to have a kicker who could take away the X-factor on kickoffs, I really don't want to see him reinjure himself like he did last year, I say save him for SF/NYG.

Can't wait till Sunday!

[smoak]

Here is one for everybody to stress about...

Carlos Rogers missed practice due to an ankle injury but is listed as "probable". I'm assuming they basically just rested him, but you never know...

Imagine if Springs, Harris, and Rogers were all out and Jimoh was our #1!? We'd need to put HR on suicide alert.

[hockeygoalie29]

Imagine if Springs, Harris, and Rogers were all out and Jimoh was our #1!? We'd need to put HR on suicide alert.

I just heard they are closing access to all bridges in the DC metro area....

[redwolf1218]

Injury Report
Player Status Injury
Betts, Ladell Questionable Groin
Griffin, Cornelius Probable Wrist
Hall, John Questionable Quad Injury
Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Noble, Brandon Out Knee
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle
Salave'a, Joe Probable Thigh
Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin
Thomas, Randy Probable Shoulder
Tupa, Tom Out Back
White, Jr., Manuel Out Ankle
Williams, Melvin Out Triceps Injury
Wynn, Renaldo Probable Knee

[hockeygoalie29]

Injury Report
Player Status Injury
Betts, Ladell Questionable Groin
Griffin, Cornelius Probable Wrist
Hall, John Questionable Quad Injury
Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Noble, Brandon Out Knee
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle
Salave'a, Joe Probable Thigh
Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin
Thomas, Randy Probable Shoulder
Tupa, Tom Out Back
White, Jr., Manuel Out Ankle
Williams, Melvin Out Triceps Injury
Wynn, Renaldo Probable Knee

Who the hell is Melvin Williams? I just saw he is a DE on IR but I've never even heard of the guy before.

[redwolf1218]

Who the hell is Melvin Williams? I just saw he is a DE on IR but I've never even heard of the guy before.
i just clicked on the Redskins.com injury report. it's not too bad for a Wednesday. Walt Harris is not even listed on it anymore.

[redskin_rich]

Who the hell is Melvin Williams? I just saw he is a DE on IR but I've never even heard of the guy before.
He is the mystery man, I don't think his name popped up until the final roster was set, when he appeared on the IR list. A pass rushing project that the Skins are hiding, I hope.

[redwolf1218]

He is the mystery man, I don't think his name popped up until the final roster was set, when he appeared on the IR list. A pass rushing project that the Skins are hiding, I hope.
it will be tough to overcome the loss of Melvin Williams, but i'd like to see what Nic Clemons can do...

if the coaches kept Nic Clemons and Melvin Williams but released Ron Warner, then those guys must have some serious potential.

[Wild Bore]

Jansen has been absolutely amazing and gets apermant thumbs up from me.
Thanks Jon for being such a warrior.

Looking at pictures of those casts he has been in, he has had a permanent thumbs up himself for quite a while now!

Seriously, though, I think those casts affected his play more than we know. How could they not. Jansen is the man. Now that he can get a little hold in here and there -- watch out!

[camasterton]

Amen! I hate carrying two kickers. If I had my way we'd carry one kicker/punter and another player on the team (maybe a QB would be able to handle duties in a pinch).

OK, maybe not, but I don't want to carry two kickers.
Coach Gibbs will hold on to both kickers at least past the Philly game. Otherwise he'll run the risk of giving the Eagles a kicker who we've "groomed" to answer that team's glaring deficiency. It may be even longer than that. Would'nt you just hate to watch Novak/Hall line up in green to attempt a 50 yarder against us and oh yeah, Mike Sellers is still on our Team?

[ChiefIronHorse]

Hope this helps:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/10/12/injury_report__redskins/

[smoak]

Hope this helps:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/10/12/injury_report__redskins/

Yeah, I know the offical injury designation, but I'm more concerned about details. Teams are so tight lipped that you never know just how bad a guy might be hurting.

And now Randy Thomas missed practice!?

Six players were held out of practice yesterday: running back Ladell Betts (groin), kicker John Hall (quadriceps), cornerback Shawn Springs (shin), running back Clinton Portis (calf), cornerback Carlos Rogers (ankle) and guard Randy Thomas (shoulder). Betts, Hall and Springs are listed as questionable for the game with Kansas City on Sunday. The rest are probable.

[TheGreek1973]

Man with all these injuries why don't we get Wilds back? You would think CB is by far the most important position considering the pass happy NFL. At least Wilds knows this D and according to Gregg last year he was a nice suprize.

[chrisbcbu]

Man with all these injuries why don't we get Wilds back? You would think CB is by far the most important position considering the pass happy NFL. At least Wilds knows this D and according to Gregg last year he was a nice suprize.

Wilds is not the answer. He got easily outplayed in the preseason by "Jimoh".

However, he is on another team.

[smoak]

Man with all these injuries why don't we get Wilds back? You would think CB is by far the most important position considering the pass happy NFL. At least Wilds knows this D and according to Gregg last year he was a nice suprize.

Normally I would agree, but we're not getting torched deep through the air. We're giving up way too many yard on the ground and underneath. I certainly hope this isn't the week that Tony G gets on track.

[STaylor#21]

Wilds is not the answer. He got easily outplayed in the preseason by "Jimoh".

However, he is on another team.

Wilds was picked up by the Panthers...

[redskin_rich]

Normally I would agree, but we're not getting torched deep through the air. We're giving up way too many yard on the ground and underneath. I certainly hope this isn't the week that Tony G gets on track.
Exactly, our run defense is giving up 20 yards more per game than last year. We need D-Lineman bad, I have been saying this forever and lots of people said that our D-Line was predicated on run-stopping. Well now they can't rush the passer and they are giving up huge runs every week.
How much did we pay P Daniels? What a waste, we were better last year with Moe, Larry and Curly at DE.

[smoak]

Exactly, our run defense is giving up 20 yards more per game than last year. We need D-Lineman bad, I have been saying this forever and lots of people said that our D-Line was predicated on run-stopping. Well now they can't rush the passer and they are giving up huge runs every week.
How much did we pay P Daniels? What a waste, we were better last year with Moe, Larry and Curly at DE.

Because its has been mostly a few "big plays" here and there, I am not as crittical of the D-line as you are. Daniels slipped in the mud on that on run the Bell got outside, but the runs should never have gone the distance.

Shaun Alexander was bottled up until Taylor went out of the game...

Julius Jones has a little success against us for a bit, but nothing sustained.

Overall, I think they just need to tweak this baby up a bit.

[chrisbcbu]

Exactly, our run defense is giving up 20 yards more per game than last year. We need D-Lineman bad, I have been saying this forever and lots of people said that our D-Line was predicated on run-stopping. Well now they can't rush the passer and they are giving up huge runs every week.
How much did we pay P Daniels? What a waste, we were better last year with Moe, Larry and Curly at DE.

I am hoping that we get Evans and Nic clemons involved more in the DE spot, Daniels is not doing very good so far this season. We need more pass rushing and they generally give us a spark.

But Clemons has been inactive for every game so far.

[openallnight]

Here is one for everybody to stress about...

Carlos Rogers missed practice due to an ankle injury but is listed as "probable". I'm assuming they basically just rested him, but you never know...

Imagine if Springs, Harris, and Rogers were all out and Jimoh was our #1!? We'd need to put HR on suicide alert.
I heard that too. Plus it's the same ankle that caused him to miss most of camp.
I wonder if Thrash is gonna get some time at CB this week in practice???

[TheGreek1973]

Didn't know that Wilds was picked up by the Panthers. Oh well. With Rogers now hurt even a little we have only one CB at 100%. And we all know who it is....Wow that is scary.

[redskin_rich]

Because its has been mostly a few "big plays" here and there, I am not as crittical of the D-line as you are. Daniels slipped in the mud on that on run the Bell got outside, but the runs should never have gone the distance.

Shaun Alexander was bottled up until Taylor went out of the game...

Julius Jones has a little success against us for a bit, but nothing sustained.

Overall, I think they just need to tweak this baby up a bit.
Those "big plays" add up in the equation, you can't remove them. Most RB's en route to a 100 yd game have a "big play" or two.
I know a tweak that could be made, in the form of a 3 time pro bowler that is sitting on the bench.
I am hoping that we get Evans and Nic clemons involved more in the DE spot, Daniels is not doing very good so far this season. We need more pass rushing and they generally give us a spark.

But Clemons has been inactive for every game so far.
Yet we are activating LA and not playing him. Whoever it is, somebody that can get pressure on the QB needs to be in the rotation at DE.

Back on topic, though some of them are dinged, we will have all our DB's playing this week, at least in the beginning of the game, so we need to get something going on Defense early. An early score by our Offense and a turnover and score from our Defense, to start the game at 14 or 10-0, would be sweet.

[Biggie]

According to redskins.com, Springs is questionable, but Walt is off the injury list and is cleared to play.

[smoak]

Those "big plays" add up in the equation, you can't remove them. Most RB's en route to a 100 yd game have a "big play" or two.
I know a tweak that could be made, in the form of a 3 time pro bowler that is sitting on the bench.

Don't get me wrong, I agree you can't take them out of the equation (I originally complained about the yards allowed), but I think it is very correctable stuff. I want LaVar playing, but I'm not sure he makes a difference against the run. I see LA as getting pressure and generating turnovers.

[BIGSEF3]

I know this is a little off-subject, but I have been on vacation, and only caught the 2nd half of last sundays game. (we drove for over an hour looking for a sportsbar! the one we usually go to at the beach had closed down). Anyway, at what point did springs leave last sunday's game? It surprised me b/c it looked like Jimoh was playnig the #1 corner spot and Rogers was staying at #2. Either way, I was fairly impressed that Jimoh made several good plays. If Springs and Harris don't play, will Jimoh continue to cover the #1 WR while Rogers sticks with the #2? And is everyone comfortable with that?

On a side-note, we were watching the game at a sportsbar near a military base, and it seemed that nearly EVERYONE there was a cowboys fan. Is there some strange reason why so many marines like the cowboys? I have to say, they were the worst fans I have ever been at a sportsbar watching a game at. They were extremely obnoxious towards the philly fans there and at one point, a fight nearly broke out - and surprisingly the philly fans weren't starting it. I have to agree with the "joke" Joe GIbbs made about cowboys fans. I now feel they are the worst fans in the NFL, not philly fans.

[smoak]

Jimoh played in place of Springs who went out early. He played on except the TD on Lelie which is like saying I'd be rich.... except for all those bills. To a degree I blame GW for leaving Jimoh out on an island over there, but he looked horrible defending that play.

He did dive on Jake for our safety... that was reversed.

[redskin_rich]

I know this is a little off-subject, but I have been on vacation, and only caught the 2nd half of last sundays game. (we drove for over an hour looking for a sportsbar! the one we usually go to at the beach had closed down). Anyway, at what point did springs leave last sunday's game? It surprised me b/c it looked like Jimoh was playnig the #1 corner spot and Rogers was staying at #2. Either way, I was fairly impressed that Jimoh made several good plays. If Springs and Harris don't play, will Jimoh continue to cover the #1 WR while Rogers sticks with the #2? And is everyone comfortable with that?


Rogers was covering Rod Smith and Jimoh was matched up on Lelie. I think that was the right way to go. Springs went out during the 1st half, I think but I'm not sure. Harris is definitely back this week, he is not even listed on the injury report. I think Springs will play too, for how long is anybody's guess.

[BIGSEF3]

I'd really feel alot better if we could place hall on IR and pick up another DB. Heck, we might as well deactivate arrington to make room for another DB. Either way, anytime Jimoh has to do anything but be a reserve nickelback, its a clear sign we are too thin at corner.

[chrisbcbu]

Springs went out in the first quarter i believe. He made a tackle then reinjured his shin in the process.

[PA Skins Girl]

Betts, Ladell Questionable Groin
Hall, John Questionable Quad Injury
Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin

Griffin, Cornelius Probable Wrist
Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle
Salave'a, Joe Probable Thigh
Thomas, Randy Probable Shoulder
Wynn, Renaldo Probable Knee

I'm surprised Springs is questionable instead of probable. Good to see Harris is off the list, though.

[redwolf1218]

Betts, Ladell Questionable Groin
Hall, John Questionable Quad Injury
Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin

Griffin, Cornelius Probable Wrist
Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle
Salave'a, Joe Probable Thigh
Thomas, Randy Probable Shoulder
Wynn, Renaldo Probable Knee

I'm surprised Springs is questionable instead of probable. Good to see Harris is off the list, though.
i read something today where Springs said it wasnt just his shin, it was inside the leg.

Springs, Betts and Hall are questionable for Sunday. Springs sustained his injury in practice last week, probably more severely than the team was letting on, and he lasted only two possessions before aggravating the injury.
"I wish it was just the shin — it's inside of the leg," Springs said.

-from the Wash Times, in the article about Arrington.

[TheGreek1973]

i read something today where Springs said it wasnt just his shin, it was inside the leg.

Springs, Betts and Hall are questionable for Sunday. Springs sustained his injury in practice last week, probably more severely than the team was letting on, and he lasted only two possessions before aggravating the injury.
"I wish it was just the shin — it's inside of the leg," Springs said.

-from the Wash Times, in the article about Arrington.

Springs is a huge one. Betts I don't really care because I love to see Rock take it to the house. Hall is Hall but Novac has been very good if his kicks don't get blocked. You guys realize that he hasn't miss a kick if not blocked? Including the 54 yard one. Wow.

[redwolf1218]

Springs is a huge one. Betts I don't really care because I love to see Rock take it to the house. Hall is Hall but Novac has been very good if his kicks don't get blocked. You guys realize that he hasn't miss a kick if not blocked? Including the 54 yard one. Wow.
I think Springs will be okay to play sparingly, and Harris will be back.

As far as Betts is concerned, i would like to see if more of Portis. i'm not so sure i'm completely sold on Portis going out of the game every time he's a little tired, which seems to be the philosophy. some guys look exhausted going back to the huddle, only to run someone over on the next play. let him play his guts out and leave it all on the field. any of yall ever seen Larry Brown back in the day? or Earl Campbell?

it is encouraging that we have not really been bitten too badly by the injury bug yet. knock on wood.

[TheGreek1973]

I think Springs will be okay to play sparingly, and Harris will be back.

As far as Betts is concerned, i would like to see if more of Portis. i'm not so sure i'm completely sold on Portis going out of the game every time he's a little tired, which seems to be the philosophy. some guys look exhausted going back to the huddle, only to run someone over on the next play. let him play his guts out and leave it all on the field. any of yall ever seen Larry Brown back in the day? or Earl Campbell?

it is encouraging that we have not really been bitten too badly by the injury bug yet. knock on wood.

Honestly wolf I hope our OL stays healthy this year. That is one of the main worries that I have. We really have no backups for those guys. Who the hell is going to replace Samuels if God forbit gets hurt?

I think Gibbs is taking a huge chance by carrying two kickers. Enough already if Hall can't go by the Giants game put him on IR. Novac has made every kick including the 54 yarder if not blocked.

[PA Skins Girl]

Betts, Ladell Doubtful Groin
Hall, John Doubtful Quad Injury

Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin

Griffin, Cornelius Probable Wrist
Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle
Salave'a, Joe Probable Thigh
Thomas, Randy Probable Shoulder
Wynn, Renaldo Probable Knee


With Betts doubtful, I wonder if Nemo will see any action.

[chrisbcbu]

Betts, Ladell Doubtful Groin
Hall, John Doubtful Quad Injury

Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin

Griffin, Cornelius Probable Wrist
Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle
Salave'a, Joe Probable Thigh
Thomas, Randy Probable Shoulder
Wynn, Renaldo Probable Knee


With Betts doubtful, I wonder if Nemo will see any action.

If he is doubtful then perhaps he gets on the inactive list and Nemo comes into play!

I also heard that Springs is unlikely to play. :(

[Wild Bore]

I must have missed this story, but I thought Prioleau was out the last game or two with an injury, but I don't see him on the injury list and now Redskin.com lists him as third string. What happened?

[candeeman]

With Betts out - basically. Do you think the skins we simply use Clinton more!

[ryflan47]

With Betts out - basically. Do you think the skins we simply use Clinton more!
Yeah, we have to. I expect Rock to get carries, but not as many as Betts would get.

[BallhawkOM]

Normally I would agree, but we're not getting torched deep through the air. We're giving up way too many yard on the ground and underneath. I certainly hope this isn't the week that Tony G gets on track.

Smoak-you won the bet! Give me an avatar here at least that will be some good mojo to beat the Queefs!!

Hope CP is 100% by game time, because here are two things most absolout...KC can not hold Denver to under 150 rushing yards a game and they can not contain CP at all.

Also hope you find a pass rush this week because if you pop TrINT a couple times he will start throwing the ball at the WR's feet, and I pity any WR who is looking down when Taylor comes a calling!

[ChiefIronHorse]

If he is doubtful then perhaps he gets on the inactive list and Nemo comes into play!

I also heard that Springs is unlikely to play. :(

Where did you hear that Springs is unlikely to play? Source?

[BigCountry]

Betts is a pretty big loss people this is a running back who could start on a few teams and is very important to our running game. Hopefully though Portis will do it all by himself and get alot of yards.

[ChiefIronHorse]

Smoak-you won the bet! Give me an avatar here at least that will be some good mojo to beat the Queefs!!

Hope CP is 100% by game time, because here are two things most absolout...KC can not hold Denver to under 150 rushing yards a game and they can not contain CP at all.

Also hope you find a pass rush this week because if you pop TrINT a couple times he will start throwing the ball at the WR's feet, and I pity any WR who is looking down when Taylor comes a calling!

Funny how donkey fans fail to do alittle research. Last year the CHIEFS held the donkeys to 132 yards on the ground at Arrowhead. That's with 3 RBs and a QB rushing the ball.

True CP has had the CHIEFS number. But that's when he was playing with the donkeys @ Invesco Field. CP is in a different running scheme. I'm not saying that CP won't be effective against the CHIEFS. I think CP is a top tier RB. But the offensive line and scheme are totally different between Skins and donkeys. The donkeys play a zone blocking scheme. Being a donkey fan, I thought you'd know that?

Funny how donkey fans like to refer to Trent Green as "TrINT." Ask the donkey fan who lead the league in interceptions last year? Ask him how many INTs Green and the fake have this year? :sfight:

[golongdude]

Friday Update

I've got a slightly sprained left ankle - my status is QUESTIONABLE for Sunday.

[ChiefIronHorse]

Friday Update

I've got a slightly sprained left ankle - my status is QUESTIONABLE for Sunday.

Were you in pads this week? I don't mean maxi-pads. :lol1: Just kidding.

[redskin_rich]

Question, with Ladell Betts doubtful and unlikely to play, who else does kickoff returns with Thrash? Cartwright? Jacobs?

Also it looks like Nemo will get in some playing time this week, probably just special teams though.

[golongdude]

Were you in pads this week? I don't mean maxi-pads. :lol1: Just kidding.

I prefer OB - toxicity issues and all that. ;)

[ChiefIronHorse]

I prefer OB - toxicity issues and all that. ;)

I'll have to remember that next time it's that time of month. :Partyup:

[BurgundyNGold]

You two guys know FAR too much about feminine hygiene.

[ChiefIronHorse]

You two guys know FAR too much about feminine hygiene.

I blame that on my ex-wife of 13 years and the current girlfriend. :lol1:

[bgforever]

I blame that on my ex-wife of 13 years and the current girlfriend. :lol1:


Ok then, lets talk TAXIDERMITY - Stuffing things!

(he,he, like the run)

[chrisbcbu]

Where did you hear that Springs is unlikely to play? Source?

Washington Times (http://insider.washingtontimes.com/...15-120843-3752r)

The Washington Redskins' revolving door at cornerback will continue tomorrow in Kansas City. Shawn Springs likely will be sidelined with an ailing lower leg, though Walt Harris will return after missing two games with a strained calf.

Top draft choice Carlos Rogers, who filled in for Harris on the left side against Seattle and Denver, will take Springs' spot on the right side against the Chiefs with only little-used Ade Jimoh in reserve. Jimoh played most of last week's game after Springs was hurt.

Springs, who originally was injured in practice Oct. 6, said he felt better yesterday than he had earlier in the week.

But Redskins coach Joe Gibbs said: "It doesn't look good for Shawn."

It also looks like Nemo will be active this game in place for Betts. This is what i was hoping for. Maybe he will get some 3rd and short carries.

"I'm excited," said Broughton, who led Washington with 36 carries and two touchdowns in preseason. "A lot of people back home [in North Charleston, S.C.,] have been waiting to see me play."

[redwolf1218]

i think Nemo is backing up Rock, who is backing up Portis, but i'd love to see Nemo get some carries.

i think Springs can play sparingly. Williams said something about him having played in that division and knowing how to play against some of the players on the Chiefs.

[ChiefIronHorse]

Washington Times (http://insider.washingtontimes.com/...15-120843-3752r)



It also looks like Nemo will be active this game in place for Betts. This is what i was hoping for. Maybe he will get some 3rd and short carries.

Thanks for the link. And sorry for the news about Springs.

[golongdude]

I blame that on my ex-wife of 13 years and the current girlfriend. :lol1:

Yup, gotta say having a wife does wonders for your knowledge level on certain things. As if you could avoid it, though ("quick, dude - run and don't look back!").

Topic stuffs - my ankle is better - I am upgraded to probable. I expect to be the second punter on the roster. :) Or maybe second place-holder.

[Death_Venom]

Personally I think I woul dplay Nemo before I play Rock.......No disrespect to Rock...................

[Biggie]

i think Nemo is backing up Rock, who is backing up Portis, but i'd love to see Nemo get some carries.

i think Springs can play sparingly. Williams said something about him having played in that division and knowing how to play against some of the players on the Chiefs.

Rock is no Ladell, so I think Nemo will have 2-3 carries on the day, and might play as a blocker for Portis in the redzone. Who knows?

[FanFromArizona]

According to the Kansas City injury report, it shows W Roaf as "questionable".
Kansas City Injured List (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/10/12/injury_report__redskins).

That could be a HUGE lift for our defense, without him the D can concentrate on the passing game, for once I am hoping that Road not make it to the game tomorrow.

[Rich77]

Those "big plays" add up in the equation, you can't remove them. Most RB's en route to a 100 yd game have a "big play" or two.
I know a tweak that could be made, in the form of a 3 time pro bowler that is sitting on the bench.

Yet we are activating LA and not playing him. Whoever it is, somebody that can get pressure on the QB needs to be in the rotation at DE.

Back on topic, though some of them are dinged, we will have all our DB's playing this week, at least in the beginning of the game, so we need to get something going on Defense early. An early score by our Offense and a turnover and score from our Defense, to start the game at 14 or 10-0, would be sweet.


I wonder if Manual White cold be put somewhere as he is a non-factor. We're gonna need corners for the tough schedule ahead.

[Biggie]

I wonder if Manual White cold be put somewhere as he is a non-factor. We're gonna need corners for the tough schedule ahead.

White's already on IR.

[PA Skins Girl]

Latest injury report from Redskins.com

Clark, Ryan Out Bruised Spleen

Betts, Ladell Doubtful Groin
Hall, John Doubtful Quad Injury

Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin

Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle

When did Ryan Clark get the bruised spleen??? Isnt that what Taylor Jacobs had is rookie year that kept him out almost the entire year?

[PA Skins Girl]

Here's the story on Clark:
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=11324

[redwolf1218]

Rock is no Ladell, so I think Nemo will have 2-3 carries on the day, and might play as a blocker for Portis in the redzone. Who knows?
how about sellers at 270 pounds blocking for the 250 pound Nemo?

[redskin_rich]

Latest injury report from Redskins.com

Clark, Ryan Out Bruised Spleen

Betts, Ladell Doubtful Groin
Hall, John Doubtful Quad Injury

Springs, Shawn Questionable Shin

Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle

When did Ryan Clark get the bruised spleen??? Isnt that what Taylor Jacobs had is rookie year that kept him out almost the entire year?
We cut Keasey again :banghead: . I think it is time to put Hall on IR and ride it out with Novak. This is pissing me off, I hope no one snatches up Keasey.

To answer your question PASG, I think Taylor Jacobs had a lacerated kidney a couple years back. That was a bit more serious than a bruised spleen, so Clark should be back in a few weeks.

[redwolf1218]

We cut Keasey again :banghead: . I think it is time to put Hall on IR and ride it out with Novak. This is pissing me off, I hope no one snatches up Keasey.

To answer your question PASG, I think Taylor Jacobs had a lacerated kidney a couple years back. That was a bit more serious than a bruised spleen, so Clark should be back in a few weeks.
the injuries are probably one reason for the juggling of the practice squad. i wonder if anyone wishes they had kept Wilds, or if they thought no one would pick him up. we're thin at corner but carrying an extra kicker. too bad we dont have a corner who's been with the team longer. at the rate we're going we could see Ade Jimoh and Dimitri Patterson starting at corner some day soon. I hope Springs, Harris and Rogers can get healthy and stay that way, but since Williams asks them to play physical, the bumps and bruises will probably continue.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/sports/20051016-124055-2276r_page2.htm
Note -- The Redskins signed defensive back Dimitri Patterson from the practice squad and waived linebacker Zak Keasey. The Patterson-Keasey swap also was made before the Seattle game two weeks ago.

[Biggie]

This is a joke, with Keasey and Patterson. Either let Hall kick or put him on IR, so we don't have to go through this every week.

[redwolf1218]

This is a joke, with Keasey and Patterson. Either let Hall kick or put him on IR, so we don't have to go through this every week.
it is a joke. what if Hall comes back and gets hurt again? where will Novak be then? Hall had the entire offseason to get well, yet he got hurt again. how would anyone be confident that he'd be reliable now after only a few games off to rest and heal? what if he comes back for a playoff run, and then gets hurt? we are cursed for kickers. we need another Mark Moseley or Chip Lohmiller, someone reliable enough to hang around for a few years and not get hurt. Novak has performed well under considerable stress. i still can't believe he nailed a 53 yarder only to have it taken off the scoreboard for a false start.

[Biggie]

it is a joke. what if Hall comes back and gets hurt again? where will Novak be then? Hall had the entire offseason to get well, yet he got hurt again. how would anyone be confident that he'd be reliable now after only a few games off to rest and heal? what if he comes back for a playoff run, and then gets hurt? we are cursed for kickers. we need another Mark Moseley or Chip Lohmiller, someone reliable enough to hang around for a few years and not get hurt. Novak has performed well under considerable stress. i still can't believe he nailed a 53 yarder only to have it taken off the scoreboard for a false start.

I agree. If we had some blocking up front, he'd be what, 6-for-6 on field goals, and capable of making a 53-yarder on the wet field of Invesco Field? I'll take it.

[redwolf1218]

I agree. If we had some blocking up front, he'd be what, 6-for-6 on field goals, and capable of making a 53-yarder on the wet field of Invesco Field? I'll take it.
that would have been his 2nd game winner too for all intents and purposes. that was an incredible kick in those conditions and under that amount of stress. i'm still steamed about that false start and i'll be even more ticked off if they let Novak slip away now. i'm anxious to see what he does with his kickoffs today too. i still believe those high floaters with the fair catches on the kickoffs were intentional, but i'd like to see him get some into the end zone for touchbacks too.

[PA Skins Girl]

So you guys would rather put Hall on the IR so you dont have to worry about whether Zak Keasey gets picked up by another team or not?

[redwolf1218]

So you guys would rather put Hall on the IR so you dont have to worry about whether Zak Keasey gets picked up by another team or not?
no. i just dont want him to come back and get hurt again while we lose Novak.

right now i'd say even if Hall comes back we have to keep Novak for insurance, so we might as well stash Hall on IR so we dont have to carry 2 kickers. if Novak gets hurt, Hall cant kick now anyway.

[redskin_rich]

So you guys would rather put Hall on the IR so you dont have to worry about whether Zak Keasey gets picked up by another team or not?
I don't trust that Hall can stay healthy and I don't want to lose Keasey because he is better than any of the LB's that we drafted.

[hogs86]

I just heard Springs and clark are out.And i thought they also said LaVar is out did anyone else hear about Arrington?

[PA Skins Girl]

But he's on the practice squad now...

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=4236

[redwolf1218]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/18/AR2005101801533.html

injury update article.

[redwolf1218]

Injury Report
Injury Report
Player Status Injury
Betts, Ladell Probable Groin
Clark, Ryan Questionable Bruised Spleen
Hall, John Probable Quad Injury
Jansen, Jon Probable Thumb Injuries
Killings, Cedric Questionable Ankle
Noble, Brandon Out Knee
Portis, Clinton Probable Calf
Rabach, Casey Probable Ankle
Rogers, Carlos Probable Ankle
Salave'a, Joe Probable Foot
Springs, Shawn Probable Shin
Tupa, Tom Out Back
White, Jr., Manuel Out Ankle
Williams, Melvin Out Triceps Injury

[smoak]

Hopefully we can jump on the Niners early and afford to rest some guys.

[smoak]

Important Injury Updates:

Out:
BurgundyNGold - Broken Fibula

Probable:
smoak - Sprained wrist (too many high-fives)
skinfan43 - Sore throat (too much yelling and screaming)
hail2skins - Strained lower back (Played Hail to the Redskins EIGHT times!)
rskinsfan10 - Strained lower back (Played Hail to the Redskins EIGHT times!)

[hail2skins]

Important Injury Updates:

Out:
BurgundyNGold - Broken Fibula

Probable:
smoak - Sprained wrist (too many high-fives)
skinfan43 - Sore throat (too much yelling and screaming)
hail2skins - Strained lower back (Played Hail to the Redskins EIGHT times!)
rskinsfan10 - Strained lower back (Played Hail to the Redskins EIGHT times!)This is funny as hell. Not the actual injuries but...

[FanFromArizona]

Important Injury Updates:

Out:
BurgundyNGold - Broken Fibula

Probable:
smoak - Sprained wrist (too many high-fives)
skinfan43 - Sore throat (too much yelling and screaming)
hail2skins - Strained lower back (Played Hail to the Redskins EIGHT times!)
rskinsfan10 - Strained lower back (Played Hail to the Redskins EIGHT times!)

FanFromArizona- projected to hit IR on 12/12 with a sore throat[screaming too much] and ankle[standing up too many times after a TD is scored]

hopefully BNG will be off IR to make his presence felt on 12/11 in AZ.

[smoak]

FanFromArizona- projected to hit IR on 12/12 with a sore throat[screaming too much] and ankle[standing up too many times after a TD is scored]

hopefully BNG will be off IR to make his presence felt on 12/11 in AZ.

FFA -

As BNG and I are meeting up with you before the game, I told him he has to be ready! At first he said he was going on IR, but I said NO WAY!!! If that gutless TO can come back for the super bowl, a great guy like BNG WILL be back for that game!!

BNG - You were sorely missed after the game, but focus on getting better brother!

[smoak]

It looks like only Killings is worse than "probable".

http://www.redskins.com/team/injuryreport.jsp